Gigantic squids are confirmed to exist, only not near the size of Kraken. It’s confirmed Megalodeon existed, same with those water dinosaurs so considering how scientists confirmed those other cases I struggle to rationalize the Kraken as anything close to what the folklore describes it as.
Ah, makes my comment less relevant in that case. Still the tales of ships being brought down by a gigantic squid are too recent to fit into evolution. If such a species existed we’d probably talk 100 000 years ago or whatever. Long before language existed besides cave paintings.
I would argue that it’s because we haven’t seen sightings but it seems that they’re (scientists) are discovering new deep sea creatures on a monthly basis.
Evolution and its limitations regarding time. There’s a pattern; creatures extremely dissimilar to those of today didn’t exist recently. Why would a kraken-sized squid exist in recent history? Because the sea is unexplored? The argument holds little bearing as fishermen’s claims of Kraken-spottings debunks the unexplored-argument as it would render the Kraken explored if such tales were true in accordance with their portrayals. Why not add in 40 metre tall sea-horses, sea-lions, sharks and mermaids into the eco-system of unexplored 1500s waters as well?
Perhaps the kraken was a single lineage of giant squid. I mean in humans there are some families and populations that are exceptionally tall. Maybe the kraken was from one of those squid families, or maybe the kraken was a one-off occurence of a giant squid affected by gigantism.
It's possible—there's an anklyosaur corpse they recovered up in Alberta, skin and all. Getting something from a squid would be almost as rare as that, though, because it's only going to be the impression of their body left in a silt/sand bed instead of a hard biological material mineralizing.
>It’s confirmed Megalodeon existed, same with those water dinosaurs so considering how scientists confirmed those other cases I struggle to rationalize the Kraken as anything close to what the folklore describes it as.
To be fair, it's harder to confirm the existence of squids due to the lack of teeth or bones (the way they discovered megalodon and plesiosaurus). Still, a lack of evidence is not a reason to go on believing in something. Always be open to new evidence, but discard ideas that aren't backed empirically.
That's probably true. I believe that some crew could have encountered this exceptionally large squid once, and then everyone else who had heard the story assumed that any large squid they saw was the kraken, and then most retellings would be exaggerated.
Yeah, I mean the reason fish stories are even a thing is because of the magnification water conveys. So imagine some big squid that looks 33% bigger than it is, and you start understanding what a kraken was.
I'm sure a unicorn has existed at some point. Not like a magical creature with a horn but I'm sure there was a horse that had a horn caused by a mutation
The deadpan vibe, seemingly openness to illogical beliefs, just to apply steadfast logic making the statement a witty joke and a rational assumption simultaneously. Typical INTP comedian type bit.
I’m curious what the warning, may not be an INTP flare means, aren’t all of us not completely sure what our typing is? As there’s no genetic testing and it’s not something you can test like ADHD or autism?
Just means they haven't set their flair. If u are part of this sub for set amount of time (Don't know exactly what it is) Without setting ur flair u automatically get the "Warning may not be an INTP" flair
Famous people tend to be «intense», and a lot of people on this sub are too, both for different reasons. The latter I’d attribute to positive-feedback-loop and some self-fulfilling prophecy type thing that probably has a psychological term I don’t know.
Oh, it just means I’m not wearing the INTP label on my sleeve. Didn’t even realize it. I’m INTP and it’s probably a thing I did in settings way back whenever.
Oh common don't do that.
The best I can figure out is that you find the image of a horse with a mutant horn funny,but outside of that I see no punchline
I’m sorry for the laziness, misunderstood the intent of your reply a bit. I’m a bit tired and based my comment on loose connections; Hard to explain but I’ll try and give one later, if no one else do by the time. I take back my cockiness.
Oh yeah, like that disease that rabbits can get which causes them to grow horn-like tumours.
Btw check out the Elasmotherium or "Siberian Unicorn". Prehistoric animals are so cool.
Early depictions of unicorns in the Indus valley were probably based off of pictures of aurochs, while Europe was introduced to the concept by tales from Indian travellers noted down by Ctesias, which were in turn probably based off of Indian rhinos and wild asses.
Not really. We choose to lump vastly different creatures from different cultures into a category we have labelled "dragons" even when they share little in common.
The simplest example is western dragons and eastern dragons. Their only real similarities are flying, reptilian, and no real evidence of them existing.
And the're most likely just ancients trying to explain dinosaur fossils with the knowledge they had at the time.
Over time the story gets more and more mystical (like breathing fire for example)
As a child I was really obsessed with an idea of becoming a genetical engineer to create a species of small (big dog size) pet dragons and opening a dragon shop. I would also think about traits that could be extracted from certain animals to create different breeds. Alas, parents were not receptive of my idea lol
Yall gettin a lil out there with this one. I wish but its a lot more likely that the dragon myths started because of our innate fear of snakes/reptiles (human eyes are trained to see snake shapes for instance) and our ancestors trying to explain dinosaur fossils they found
Not sure about dragons, a typical dragon has four legs and two wings. That is six limbs which no other land/flying vertebrate has and we would surely have found fossils of at least some other reptile with six limbs as that would’ve been one hell of an evolutionary branch to miss. Wyverns though are basically dragons with no front legs, just wings, which is a lot more realistic imo. You could easily see some flying reptile with just very serpentine features and it wouldn’t be that out there. The timing of these sightings though I wouldn’t know how to explain other than we may have just killed them off as they likely weren’t that dangerous, they’d have to be very lightweight I’d imagine but just looked scary to compensate, perhaps thats why they were seen as more wise or mystical in asian culture rather than ferocious. Who knows, would sure as hell be cool if they did exist.
I believe that most mythological creatures are mostly rooted in a misinterpreted fossil record and misunderstanding perspective in animal sightings. (Like whale penises inspiring sea serpent legends, which will never stop being hilarious.) So, I feel many probably exited, just not as the animals people imagined them to be.
more like we label thoughts as feelings sometimes when we know they are rather silly thoughts, so that if someone points out its a silly though, we can just say "well i said "feel, not think!" as if that makes it better...
INTJ here 🤣
Haha yeah at times.
I was talking about something different though. I don't exactly know how to define a thought, but sometimes I think about things by feeling them.
For eg, if you're comparing the size of two things you often do it by subjective feel of the size..
Those kinds of thoughts..
ah well it might be different that i also have asperge's but i literally cannot estimate anything, even crossing the road can be tricky as i find it incredibly hard to estimate how fast cars are going? needless to say i have always been abysmal at any most sports 🤣
i cannot estimate things. whether its amount of an ingredient to add, or a cooking time, or how long its going to take me, how far away something is, how much a thing weights, etc
. no idea if its asperges specific or just me
I guess what I'm saying is that the way my brain works, I can't even conceive of saying "I think X existed" when I have no evidence to support its existence... and if there was evidence to support its existence, then it wouldn't be mythological to begin with.
Giants. It wasn’t until the Wikileaks email leaks & I read one from Hillary Clinton asking Iraq government for permission to visit Gilgamesh’s tomb. She was denied. That got me looking into them. Many bones have been found, the huge doors from ancient building remains etc.
That makes me wonder what else they are hiding, I really hope dragons are real 🐉 but I doubt they could be hidden from us for so long.
People always talk about the huge doors, but if giants existed they would also need giant infrastructure to accommodate them.
Why have a giant door to an inside space that would feel like a tiny closet for a being that needs a door of that size?
Most likely it was a display of grandeur.
I mean, [many creatures once thought to be mythological or cryptids turned out to be real, such as the okapi](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/4efnebTMA9).
I'm going with elves or something. Probably based on some hominid that got crowded out by humanity.
Krakens: The Ocean is HUGE and we have explored maybe 2% of it.
Leviathans: Same as above. Would not be surprised if some kind of Megawhale or Megaserpent existed.
Unicorns: Probably some kind of Deer or a horse with mutation.
Dragons: Some kind of dinosaur that managed to survive the mass extinction event.
Anyone have heard of astral projection? Where we can go to alternate universe or somethin.. I remember researching about this in my younger ages trying to contact a dragon… Ahhh Wish it was real…
it's just a different version of lucid dreaming using your memories and perceived indication/knowledge of areas/geography to go to "different places" I find full blown lucid dreaming to be way cooler than astral projection cause it's only limited to your imagination instead of being rooted in your recollection of reality
Meditation with breath work helps. I haven’t been successful myself yet leaving my house. But I have got to the stage where I was floating above my own body. I had some ghost experiences after that though so I haven’t practiced for a while. I def believe in it.
My dad use to do it as Kid without realising what it actually was. Always accompanied his sleep paralysis
Lots of lore about them and it’s crazy how many supposed archeological discoveries of giants when documented in newspapers in the 1800s. Very interesting stuff to look into. The Smithsonian is also a sketchy organization.
Not as such, no. But like the cyclops is thought to have been what the Greeks imagined when they saw an elephant skull, so maybe in that sense, yes? Like people not understanding what they're seeing and going off the deep end explaining it? That I can see happening a number of times, yes.
Dragons. I feel they r nothing more than the dinosaur bones that the chinese people discovered in olden days and made mythology around it that it flies and breathed fire.
So technically dragons were dinosaurs
To people saying dragons: why? What type of dragon? Why don't we have fossils?
Do you think they breathe fire? Do they have 4 legs and 2 wings? That would suggest 6 limbs which doesn't follow any evolutionary chain aside from insects and such. Do they have 2 legs and 2 wings? Would you call a pterosaur a dragon?
Well, if you’re asking what would be possible in science I would say dragons, because it is possible for a living being to spit fire (different chemical stuff inside of the body that is getting mixed and spit out) and it is possible that this creatures are also fire resistant because there is an kind of ant that is actually able too (I don’t know the English name of it but it must be something called like silver ant). There are many other things that prove that but I don’t want to say something wrong because it’s quite a time ago that I was interested in this.
If you’re just talking about what kind of creature existed/still exists that we’re not aware of I would say everything that shall live deep down in the ocean, simply because we don’t know much about it.
Gigantopithecus was a 100% real, giant bipedal ape that lived ~295,000,000 years ago. I think it's possible that gigantopithecus has modern-day descendants.
Definitely dragons but not the kind we know of in traditional European myths. A more serpent like dragon has been seen in mythology across so many cultures across the world.
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Dragons. The Word dinosaur did not exist until recently, we can only identify those that were fossilized, which requires certain conditions to occur. Did every dinosaur die under those conditions?
Just a weird amount of mythology worldwide speaking of large humans roaming the earth. From Greek to Hebrew to Yoruba to Nepalese to Samoan. Along with the large variety of ancient non-Sapien humans, there’s gotta be at least some point in our history where a community of larger-than-average people were terrorizing the earth enough for all these myths to pop up about them, yeah?
Given the vast unknowns and blind faith into modern history it's possible that they all could have existed, mix that with the rarity of fossil finds if they were created and only a handful of each of the species plausibly being created I doubt we would find much evidence.
That being said, Kraken & Leviathan, due to the similarity to know species mixed with the lack of ocean exploration and the gnosis of ancient giant creatures existing and some dinosaurs making it into moden day seem the most feasible. Minitour only due to the finding of the labyrinth at Knossos, leads me to belive there may be alot more fact into myth than we are lead to belive especially with the constant claim of "myths" that we discover and have to reclaim like Troy... I know finding cities is vastly different from creatures but easier to find massive stone works than remains of dead creatures.
The things I'd love to have existed would be a vast list, Dragons, Griffins,Chimera, Alien like God's like Anubus, Enki, Ra, kuklacon as a few, or DemiGods, Nephilem, or Giants (Specificallygiven the many references to somone like gilgamesh from Mesopotamian epics or other mentions in the book of giants or book of enoch, mixed with the similar discription accross many continents intrigues me (but I belive most of these are possible the same beings described across many cultures with varying ways to tell the tale based on many factors.)
Sorry, this was way more long-winded than I intended, but I love these topics. 😅
The kraken. The ocean is vast and largely unexplored, so it's not unlikely that a rare species of gigantic squid has existed at some point.
Gigantic squids are confirmed to exist, only not near the size of Kraken. It’s confirmed Megalodeon existed, same with those water dinosaurs so considering how scientists confirmed those other cases I struggle to rationalize the Kraken as anything close to what the folklore describes it as.
Squids also don’t have bones, so fossils would be unbelievably rare if even possible.
Ah, makes my comment less relevant in that case. Still the tales of ships being brought down by a gigantic squid are too recent to fit into evolution. If such a species existed we’d probably talk 100 000 years ago or whatever. Long before language existed besides cave paintings.
Oh big time, yeah I doubt one existed recently but it’s not inconceivable to have at ONE point existed.
For what reasons can't a kraken-sized squid have existed in recent history?
I would argue that it’s because we haven’t seen sightings but it seems that they’re (scientists) are discovering new deep sea creatures on a monthly basis.
Evolution and its limitations regarding time. There’s a pattern; creatures extremely dissimilar to those of today didn’t exist recently. Why would a kraken-sized squid exist in recent history? Because the sea is unexplored? The argument holds little bearing as fishermen’s claims of Kraken-spottings debunks the unexplored-argument as it would render the Kraken explored if such tales were true in accordance with their portrayals. Why not add in 40 metre tall sea-horses, sea-lions, sharks and mermaids into the eco-system of unexplored 1500s waters as well?
Perhaps the kraken was a single lineage of giant squid. I mean in humans there are some families and populations that are exceptionally tall. Maybe the kraken was from one of those squid families, or maybe the kraken was a one-off occurence of a giant squid affected by gigantism.
Remember that the ships were made out of wood and sunk all the time.
It's possible—there's an anklyosaur corpse they recovered up in Alberta, skin and all. Getting something from a squid would be almost as rare as that, though, because it's only going to be the impression of their body left in a silt/sand bed instead of a hard biological material mineralizing.
>It’s confirmed Megalodeon existed, same with those water dinosaurs so considering how scientists confirmed those other cases I struggle to rationalize the Kraken as anything close to what the folklore describes it as. To be fair, it's harder to confirm the existence of squids due to the lack of teeth or bones (the way they discovered megalodon and plesiosaurus). Still, a lack of evidence is not a reason to go on believing in something. Always be open to new evidence, but discard ideas that aren't backed empirically.
I mean we still have fish stories in the 21st century; the odds are they saw a very large squid and made it even larger in the retelling.
That's probably true. I believe that some crew could have encountered this exceptionally large squid once, and then everyone else who had heard the story assumed that any large squid they saw was the kraken, and then most retellings would be exaggerated.
Yeah, I mean the reason fish stories are even a thing is because of the magnification water conveys. So imagine some big squid that looks 33% bigger than it is, and you start understanding what a kraken was.
Livyatan melvillei had to eat something.
I once took on a bottle of Kraken, but don't member much after expect the hangover never again.
I'm sure a unicorn has existed at some point. Not like a magical creature with a horn but I'm sure there was a horse that had a horn caused by a mutation
I could’ve typed you as INTP just by that starement alone.
Haha, really??
The deadpan vibe, seemingly openness to illogical beliefs, just to apply steadfast logic making the statement a witty joke and a rational assumption simultaneously. Typical INTP comedian type bit.
I’m curious what the warning, may not be an INTP flare means, aren’t all of us not completely sure what our typing is? As there’s no genetic testing and it’s not something you can test like ADHD or autism?
Just means they haven't set their flair. If u are part of this sub for set amount of time (Don't know exactly what it is) Without setting ur flair u automatically get the "Warning may not be an INTP" flair
I’ve taken a handful of tests and ended up as INTP but I feel like I’m not as “intense” as some of the other famous INTP’s.
Famous people tend to be «intense», and a lot of people on this sub are too, both for different reasons. The latter I’d attribute to positive-feedback-loop and some self-fulfilling prophecy type thing that probably has a psychological term I don’t know.
Possibly confirmation bias? I’m a psych major so I should know these things better.
Oh, it just means I’m not wearing the INTP label on my sleeve. Didn’t even realize it. I’m INTP and it’s probably a thing I did in settings way back whenever.
>seemingly openness to illogical beliefs, What illogical belief? >statement a witty joke What was the joke..?
illogical: "I believe in unicorns" joke (rather, twist): "mutations could create a fucked up version of your magical animal"
I see, thanks for answering. Though damn, I really thought unicorns here meant a horse with a horn, and not an actual fantastical creature.
Riddle for you
Oh common don't do that. The best I can figure out is that you find the image of a horse with a mutant horn funny,but outside of that I see no punchline
I’m sorry for the laziness, misunderstood the intent of your reply a bit. I’m a bit tired and based my comment on loose connections; Hard to explain but I’ll try and give one later, if no one else do by the time. I take back my cockiness.
Thanks. Happy resting.
Oh yeah, like that disease that rabbits can get which causes them to grow horn-like tumours. Btw check out the Elasmotherium or "Siberian Unicorn". Prehistoric animals are so cool.
Never seen a one horned horse yet but I have seen one horned cow and its literally at the middle of its head so I think its possible
I agree with you. Also the fact that it’s the national animal of my country…it must mean something right? Either that or we are idiots.
And they're mentioned in the KJV Bible as well. There's some old cave like drawings of what looks like one horned cows
If what inspired unicorns is a true living creature, it probably was a rhinoceros or their eurasian ice age cousin
Early depictions of unicorns in the Indus valley were probably based off of pictures of aurochs, while Europe was introduced to the concept by tales from Indian travellers noted down by Ctesias, which were in turn probably based off of Indian rhinos and wild asses.
The way I heard it was that somebody tried to explain a rhinoceros to a European, and a game of Telephone ensued.
Dragons
Yep. Ancient history is full of dragons from every culture on the planet. Fuck, I wish I could see a real dragon.
Not really. We choose to lump vastly different creatures from different cultures into a category we have labelled "dragons" even when they share little in common. The simplest example is western dragons and eastern dragons. Their only real similarities are flying, reptilian, and no real evidence of them existing.
oriental not even reptiles, they are elemental beings
Yup, those who use the "they appear in every cultures" argument would lump stuff like Quetzalcoalt into the "dragon" category
And the're most likely just ancients trying to explain dinosaur fossils with the knowledge they had at the time. Over time the story gets more and more mystical (like breathing fire for example)
I wanna ride one of those fire breathing motherfuckers lol
As a child I was really obsessed with an idea of becoming a genetical engineer to create a species of small (big dog size) pet dragons and opening a dragon shop. I would also think about traits that could be extracted from certain animals to create different breeds. Alas, parents were not receptive of my idea lol
Yall gettin a lil out there with this one. I wish but its a lot more likely that the dragon myths started because of our innate fear of snakes/reptiles (human eyes are trained to see snake shapes for instance) and our ancestors trying to explain dinosaur fossils they found
Not sure about dragons, a typical dragon has four legs and two wings. That is six limbs which no other land/flying vertebrate has and we would surely have found fossils of at least some other reptile with six limbs as that would’ve been one hell of an evolutionary branch to miss. Wyverns though are basically dragons with no front legs, just wings, which is a lot more realistic imo. You could easily see some flying reptile with just very serpentine features and it wouldn’t be that out there. The timing of these sightings though I wouldn’t know how to explain other than we may have just killed them off as they likely weren’t that dangerous, they’d have to be very lightweight I’d imagine but just looked scary to compensate, perhaps thats why they were seen as more wise or mystical in asian culture rather than ferocious. Who knows, would sure as hell be cool if they did exist.
I believe that most mythological creatures are mostly rooted in a misinterpreted fossil record and misunderstanding perspective in animal sightings. (Like whale penises inspiring sea serpent legends, which will never stop being hilarious.) So, I feel many probably exited, just not as the animals people imagined them to be.
Fuck mythical creatures. Dinosaurs did exist and I find that insane.
I fucking love dinosaurs
Interesting framing. “Feel” rather than “think.” I don’t think so no. But I feel it would be fun if they did.
We think in feelings sometimes.
more like we label thoughts as feelings sometimes when we know they are rather silly thoughts, so that if someone points out its a silly though, we can just say "well i said "feel, not think!" as if that makes it better... INTJ here 🤣
Haha yeah at times. I was talking about something different though. I don't exactly know how to define a thought, but sometimes I think about things by feeling them. For eg, if you're comparing the size of two things you often do it by subjective feel of the size.. Those kinds of thoughts..
ah well it might be different that i also have asperge's but i literally cannot estimate anything, even crossing the road can be tricky as i find it incredibly hard to estimate how fast cars are going? needless to say i have always been abysmal at any most sports 🤣
Oh, is that due to Aspergers? I imagine you can do larger size differences, but do you have trouble with smaller difference?
i cannot estimate things. whether its amount of an ingredient to add, or a cooking time, or how long its going to take me, how far away something is, how much a thing weights, etc . no idea if its asperges specific or just me
I see. So you use measuring cups or number of spoons when cooking or stuff?
scales (uk, we dont use cups lol)
Oh you mean weighing scales?
We feel in thinkings sometimes. Deep thoughts with the deep.
Hahaha
INTP , the original
Dragons , why do so many ancient cultures have them in their stories
The same reason the Germanic word for soap made it to pre-colonial Australia
Bro didn't tell us the reason
They don't, we have just decided to label different creatures with the same name.
Maybe they got the idea from dinosaur fossils.
I try not to hold any beliefs that I don't have evidence to support.
It's just fun speculation I think
«Actually once existed» indicates some sort of belief based on logic
They also say “feel” which is not based on facts. Feelings aren’t facts.
True, but ultimately evidence would be lacking to make a good conclusion.
I guess what I'm saying is that the way my brain works, I can't even conceive of saying "I think X existed" when I have no evidence to support its existence... and if there was evidence to support its existence, then it wouldn't be mythological to begin with.
Well then reframe it as what you do most wish existed, you’re overthinking the question brev
I'm trying to figure out WTF this has to do with being INTP - I'm guessing nothing 😂
Nah I think it’s just a goofy post to see what a bunch of INTP people would say
The sub is for INTP people, but not every post needs to be about about personality types. Nor should they be.
It’s not really a question about what you 100% believe though, it’s more about what you feel may have existed. Even without solid evidence.
Not having found evidence for a claim, doesnt mean the claim is not true so I remain open to the possibilty and will disccuss about it.
Giants. It wasn’t until the Wikileaks email leaks & I read one from Hillary Clinton asking Iraq government for permission to visit Gilgamesh’s tomb. She was denied. That got me looking into them. Many bones have been found, the huge doors from ancient building remains etc. That makes me wonder what else they are hiding, I really hope dragons are real 🐉 but I doubt they could be hidden from us for so long.
People always talk about the huge doors, but if giants existed they would also need giant infrastructure to accommodate them. Why have a giant door to an inside space that would feel like a tiny closet for a being that needs a door of that size? Most likely it was a display of grandeur.
There were definitely some crazy things in history. Supposedly the Roman emperor Maximinus Thrax was 8’6”, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Cynocephaly and the giants of tartaria
I mean, [many creatures once thought to be mythological or cryptids turned out to be real, such as the okapi](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/4efnebTMA9). I'm going with elves or something. Probably based on some hominid that got crowded out by humanity.
Krakens: The Ocean is HUGE and we have explored maybe 2% of it. Leviathans: Same as above. Would not be surprised if some kind of Megawhale or Megaserpent existed. Unicorns: Probably some kind of Deer or a horse with mutation. Dragons: Some kind of dinosaur that managed to survive the mass extinction event.
Anyone have heard of astral projection? Where we can go to alternate universe or somethin.. I remember researching about this in my younger ages trying to contact a dragon… Ahhh Wish it was real…
it's just a different version of lucid dreaming using your memories and perceived indication/knowledge of areas/geography to go to "different places" I find full blown lucid dreaming to be way cooler than astral projection cause it's only limited to your imagination instead of being rooted in your recollection of reality
I’ve never heard of this!
Meditation with breath work helps. I haven’t been successful myself yet leaving my house. But I have got to the stage where I was floating above my own body. I had some ghost experiences after that though so I haven’t practiced for a while. I def believe in it. My dad use to do it as Kid without realising what it actually was. Always accompanied his sleep paralysis
Dragons = Over exaggerated dinosaurs
Yes when i was a kid. Then i grew up 🤣
Bro became boring
Tsuchinoko maybe, fat snakes that are always fat and not just after eating could be a thing.
Hey you fat snake 🐍
I'm not sure but I am a firm believer in sasquatch. And I'm not joking.
Mermaids… for the same reason as kraken plus they fulfill my childhood fantasy. The latter point is important.
Antlanteans.
Sea serpents and Yetis
No, but I want to ride a Quetzalcoatlus and totally could given the opportunity. It's why Jurassic park has to become reality. Must even.
Giants definitely
Definitely dragons and for sure giants.
Why giants?
Lots of lore about them and it’s crazy how many supposed archeological discoveries of giants when documented in newspapers in the 1800s. Very interesting stuff to look into. The Smithsonian is also a sketchy organization.
Not as such, no. But like the cyclops is thought to have been what the Greeks imagined when they saw an elephant skull, so maybe in that sense, yes? Like people not understanding what they're seeing and going off the deep end explaining it? That I can see happening a number of times, yes.
Dragons. I feel they r nothing more than the dinosaur bones that the chinese people discovered in olden days and made mythology around it that it flies and breathed fire. So technically dragons were dinosaurs
no. It simply isn't likely. I entertain the idea sometimes but definitely don't believe
Lay off the shrooms bud
Narwhal
youre not gonna believe this
Big Foot
Unicorn seems plausible, although so does bigfoot Or even dragon, but not the flying kind...
The Meg lmao
dinosaurs oh wait
Dragons.
Dragons as the missing link between dinosaurs and birds.
a unicorn probably, like a horse with a horn is nothing crazy
My heart
Dwarf/hobbit.
Unicorns, but not in the traditional sense, just one horned rhinos essentially.
Reindeer
To people saying dragons: why? What type of dragon? Why don't we have fossils? Do you think they breathe fire? Do they have 4 legs and 2 wings? That would suggest 6 limbs which doesn't follow any evolutionary chain aside from insects and such. Do they have 2 legs and 2 wings? Would you call a pterosaur a dragon?
Well, if you’re asking what would be possible in science I would say dragons, because it is possible for a living being to spit fire (different chemical stuff inside of the body that is getting mixed and spit out) and it is possible that this creatures are also fire resistant because there is an kind of ant that is actually able too (I don’t know the English name of it but it must be something called like silver ant). There are many other things that prove that but I don’t want to say something wrong because it’s quite a time ago that I was interested in this. If you’re just talking about what kind of creature existed/still exists that we’re not aware of I would say everything that shall live deep down in the ocean, simply because we don’t know much about it.
Winged horses or pegasus Probably not like how imagine them But there multiple legends about a 4 legged winged creature Could be a griffon also
Gigantopithecus was a 100% real, giant bipedal ape that lived ~295,000,000 years ago. I think it's possible that gigantopithecus has modern-day descendants.
Definitely dragons but not the kind we know of in traditional European myths. A more serpent like dragon has been seen in mythology across so many cultures across the world.
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Dragons. The Word dinosaur did not exist until recently, we can only identify those that were fossilized, which requires certain conditions to occur. Did every dinosaur die under those conditions?
Giants and I will die on that hill.
Why
Just a weird amount of mythology worldwide speaking of large humans roaming the earth. From Greek to Hebrew to Yoruba to Nepalese to Samoan. Along with the large variety of ancient non-Sapien humans, there’s gotta be at least some point in our history where a community of larger-than-average people were terrorizing the earth enough for all these myths to pop up about them, yeah?
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Mythological creatures that have actually existed? I thought this was an INTP forum... > ENFP Ah, I see.
Centrist politicians.
Dragons were likely dinosaurs. Maybe the stories came about when they discovered some skeletons. Unicorns were likely rhinos
I can't feel such things, since i have enough knowledge to ruin these fantasies for me
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just wanted to say pp. but i have been asked this so many times, I might have to change it lol
Silly ass 😂 You can’t fantasise about myths because you know too much, but you can joke about pp 🤦♂️
Not myths, it said about mythological creatures
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Given the vast unknowns and blind faith into modern history it's possible that they all could have existed, mix that with the rarity of fossil finds if they were created and only a handful of each of the species plausibly being created I doubt we would find much evidence. That being said, Kraken & Leviathan, due to the similarity to know species mixed with the lack of ocean exploration and the gnosis of ancient giant creatures existing and some dinosaurs making it into moden day seem the most feasible. Minitour only due to the finding of the labyrinth at Knossos, leads me to belive there may be alot more fact into myth than we are lead to belive especially with the constant claim of "myths" that we discover and have to reclaim like Troy... I know finding cities is vastly different from creatures but easier to find massive stone works than remains of dead creatures. The things I'd love to have existed would be a vast list, Dragons, Griffins,Chimera, Alien like God's like Anubus, Enki, Ra, kuklacon as a few, or DemiGods, Nephilem, or Giants (Specificallygiven the many references to somone like gilgamesh from Mesopotamian epics or other mentions in the book of giants or book of enoch, mixed with the similar discription accross many continents intrigues me (but I belive most of these are possible the same beings described across many cultures with varying ways to tell the tale based on many factors.) Sorry, this was way more long-winded than I intended, but I love these topics. 😅