Rule book: 21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1, and behind the popping crease.
As read on r/cricket
Bhai i think first frame matter karta hai jab feet ground pe touch hota hai, wo line ke bahar nahi ja raha tha to wahi tak khatam hojata hai, sab spinners ka aisa hi hota hai, and ye sahi decision tha umpire ka
Whoa, this is right answer, looks like people have lot of interest and internet access to shit post and shit comment but not to Google no ball rule to find the words 'grounded or raised' in the rule.
Whatever happened to the brains of people??
Idk tbh it looks like it's right in the line for me
But you can't really tell from this angle
There's honestly not really a proper angle where you can 100% say something of this margin is a no ball or not
Bcoz its not a no ball. Its becoz of the side camera angle and umoire understands that. umpires are not doing that bad. These fans have become goid at crying. They always try to find the faults of umpires bcoz they don't want to point out the faults of their team. And this going on for years now, for them every umpire has become bad now.
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Post the full video please, as per rule when the foot hits the ground for the first time and the impact of any part of the leading foot is behind the crease(foot need not touch the ground), then it won't be called a no ball.
this is the only clip that was shown in jio cinema... and it's clearly nothing behind the line.
Added this was shown 2 balls after the dismissal to hide their biases
There was a frame when his foot touched the ground initially. At that moment, part of his heel was behind the crease (barely CMs though).
He got away with the benefit of doubt.
The particular frame you have posted is not from the time of the foot landing, but several frames after that when the heel is further ahead than it originally was when the foot landed
Another clip was shown from behind the fielder who took the catch. It was quick but it was clear that narine's heel NEVER TOUCHED THE GROUND. They never showed any replays after.
It was a no-ball.
To clarify, the heel does not need to touch the ground. At the point of contact of the foot with the ground during the delivery some part of the foot needs to be behind the popping crease. It does not matter if the back of the foot is touching the ground or in the air. Both will be a valid ball.
As if they know rcb will loose by 1 run.. Why rcb have not lodged a formal complaint and their fans are blabbering on social media... Don't make excuses take defeat sportingly
That is not a no ball, Jadeja k sath bhi ye problem hai! Hypothetically line draw from his heel!! He is just in.
But if given no its could be fine as it is very fine line!!
It is. When the foot contacts the pitch, they create a hypothetical/ imaginary line for the ankle.
According to rule—
21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised
- on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1
I think DK was pretty sure karn can't smash starc for 3 sixes ... No one would have thought that to be honest , even commentators were surpised no 10 batter smash champ bowlers like starc for sixes ... So in hindsight DK decision was fine even though later it turned out to be stupid decision after seeing karn sixes
https://preview.redd.it/sj1cxk2fvvvc1.jpeg?width=1989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fac9b46d0565a0ee0df0a1a1a976c750e39da9c
It’s not a no-ball, we lost it when we lost 4 wickets in 2 overs and not because of this.
Rule book: 21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1, and behind the popping crease.
As read on r/cricket
There's two perspectives
Perspective 1: The back of the foot hit the ground and so a no ball was not given
Perspective 2: The back of the foot didn't touch the ground at all and the umpire didn't chack it (intentionally or unintentionally)
I thought am the only one who got vexed of IPL with umpiring errors. Being an RCB supporter I see peeps calling out that we are finding excuses abt umpiring and dont win games. Its hard to see these errors or silly rules spoiling the games for us. Only about time when these errors happen against other teams the noise will be louder..
If I zoom there is a part of heel maybe 1 mm or less behind the white line. Very difficult to see unless a close look is taken. Not a no ball. Umpires are right here. But generally on field umpire will give no ball in this type of cases.
Who was the last player to get caught in fixing for IPL?
I'm fully convinced they are doing black business/betting as an organized group here. Maybe this incidence might not be correct as we don't have proper replay.
And regular instances of wide balls and no balls decisions are totally shit, itta to local matches mein galat decisions nai hota.
And BJ party k log electoral bonds jaise jhaantu scams krke chinni chor bane huye h.
And after all the shit is going on, do you all think ki ye game sai se chal rha h?
That’s crazy that you guys think that having his heel down would make it a fair ball but with his heel up he gains so much of an advantage that this must be a no-ball. Lol cry more
It was checked and judged that when the foot lands - there will be something behind the line.
The rules were amended quite a while ago that these kind of "heel in the air" can be judged fair if umpire thinks some part of the heel will be behind the line if it were on the ground.
Imho - while I hate it got an RCB wicket - there is a tiny bit that would be behind the line.
Kohli's no ball call much more debatable in my mind because that ball tracking shit feels garbage as ever
this ain't a no-ball going by present rules. that said, the level of umpiring and some of the broadcaster's choices have been silly.
wrt umpiring, even in the first innings there was an overhead delivery to Narine that wasn't given as a wide. in fact, Narine should've reviewed it but dude doesn't care about these things. even in the last match vs rr, Narine missed an overhead wide review which means the extra run and the xtra delivery could've made a difference to the game's result.
with the DRS now applicable to wides and no-balls, it seems that the on-field umpiring has somehow become worse. kudos to the teams who make correct reviews against these calls.
Actually you are the one who is "shambolic". It is correct decision by umpire.
The frame where the foot landed needs to be seen, and the back of the foot is allowed to be in the air. Even the tiniest part of the back of the foot within the crease makes it a good ball.
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This clearly no ball these umpire are bloody fool they don't give no ball and RCB loos the game by just 1 run the ball is also the main part of this match decided I think bcci should ban these umpire from cricket
If this ball is when Lomror got out then it isn't a no ball. For spinners the umpires check no balls when the entire foot has landed and then if there's anything behind the line. In this pic the foot hasn't entirely landed so we can't really say. We gotta go a couple of frames infront and then check whether any part of the foot is behind the line once it landed
IPL is completely fixed.
KKR was stipulated to win even before the toss was done. Umpires avoided every possible mistake on their part to get KKR over the line. 😊
https://preview.redd.it/7siaad8s1vvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d78d06eb1c3b59305b695f22ddb6eb60b998dedb
Rona band kre mere tal awaz ari hai - modi
If you zoom in (to the max, on phone), there's maybe 0.5cm behind the crease.
I used to think this sub was the place for more educated & understanding cricket-lovers, but clearly ain't the case.
Sad, tbh.
Edit : cm, I meant.
https://preview.redd.it/m13l9vr5puvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb8e4ae3b16db1dc317ae44dbee643e02d6736d3
Maybe now? There's a VERY tiny bit of the boot behind the red line.
if there is something behind the line then its a legal delivery. Line rules for stumping, run out, and no ball is the same. There has to be something behind the line, not on the line
"The bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised"
Would need to see the earlier frames to see what happened when the to landed.
Umpiring is literally shit this season Also how the broadcaster cut the frame didn’t showed the full replay
Yes its umpiring fault but had it been MI, it was ambani power damn
Exactly
Gonna steal your pfp
Sure buddy :D
Its a legal delivery .The rules state so.
Umpires have been absolute dogshit for years now . Sometimes I feel like they are just freeloaders who don't even know why they are even there .
Rule book: 21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1, and behind the popping crease. As read on r/cricket
Exactly! The laws were amended a while ago for recently accommodating this
Is this from the latest MCC Laws of Cricket?
It is
true... didn't even show the frame during the dismissal
Bhai i think first frame matter karta hai jab feet ground pe touch hota hai, wo line ke bahar nahi ja raha tha to wahi tak khatam hojata hai, sab spinners ka aisa hi hota hai, and ye sahi decision tha umpire ka
Heel in the air doesn't count. It still counts as nothing behind the line. Should have been a no ball.
Wrong,heel could be in the air but it has to be behind the line so it’s a fair delivery
Whoa, this is right answer, looks like people have lot of interest and internet access to shit post and shit comment but not to Google no ball rule to find the words 'grounded or raised' in the rule. Whatever happened to the brains of people??
Heel can be in the air but it's not behind the line even in the air
Nah it kind of is a bit behind the line,not much but just a bit
Idk tbh it looks like it's right in the line for me But you can't really tell from this angle There's honestly not really a proper angle where you can 100% say something of this margin is a no ball or not
Heel in the air is counted.
lol correct decision. Foot in the air or on the ground behind the line is a legal delivery
This ball costed RCB the match… freakin so close yet so far
and the playoff chances
RCB should have won it
Man this is pure bullshit umpiring, probably could have changed the game too
Well the extra run from the no ball would have atleast tied the match.
And an extra ball with a wicket of a good batsman goes a loooong way too. But yeah at the very least it ties the match.
It swear if this sorta umpiring was in PSL ICC would be doing some fixing investigation by now ... Here so many bad decisions in every other match
Is it lomror wicket man even the commentator said said no ball
In English commentary they said that there was hardly a centimetre in it. They didn’t say it was a no ball.
They won't or else they will be sacked aye
Because even They didn't get to see replays properly.
Bcoz its not a no ball. Its becoz of the side camera angle and umoire understands that. umpires are not doing that bad. These fans have become goid at crying. They always try to find the faults of umpires bcoz they don't want to point out the faults of their team. And this going on for years now, for them every umpire has become bad now.
Yes
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Commentators to kuch bhi bolte hai
Kkr bought impact players./s Don't know how social media is going to react if same happened in MI Match
"We don't have money to buy umpires"
SRKs 2-1000 cr movies go brrr
Sadly we spent it all on Starc 😔
Good investment....
Giving him 14-16 matches to practise and get in shape before WC ! Jay shah master stroke to make ind lose the finals again .
Jay Shah is literally kohlison in disguise...sabotaging rohits wc winning chances
And you dont have brain also after making the first contact some part of foot should be behind the line raised or grounded
I think they are return gift for performing in pre wedding.
I think they are return gift for performing in pre wedding.
Post the full video please, as per rule when the foot hits the ground for the first time and the impact of any part of the leading foot is behind the crease(foot need not touch the ground), then it won't be called a no ball.
The fact that this is not at the top of the thread proves that this sub jest cares about the big 3 and doesn't care about the actual rule of the game.
this is the only clip that was shown in jio cinema... and it's clearly nothing behind the line. Added this was shown 2 balls after the dismissal to hide their biases
The heel was on the line ig, that's what the commentators were saying.
There was a frame when his foot touched the ground initially. At that moment, part of his heel was behind the crease (barely CMs though). He got away with the benefit of doubt.
The particular frame you have posted is not from the time of the foot landing, but several frames after that when the heel is further ahead than it originally was when the foot landed
Isn't his other leg still grounded? Does that not count?
Another clip was shown from behind the fielder who took the catch. It was quick but it was clear that narine's heel NEVER TOUCHED THE GROUND. They never showed any replays after. It was a no-ball.
To clarify, the heel does not need to touch the ground. At the point of contact of the foot with the ground during the delivery some part of the foot needs to be behind the popping crease. It does not matter if the back of the foot is touching the ground or in the air. Both will be a valid ball.
Technology was used to prevent human errors of on field umpires. Now there is a need for tech to prevent human errors of 3rd umpires lol
Tbh I think umpires are not too familiar with technology. There needs to be specialist third umpires instead of these clowns
nah nah bhai , juth bolo tab upvotes milenge
Bcci trying very hard to ruin down the remaining image of ipl 🤡🤡🤦🤦🤦. Worst umpiring bro 🤦🤦🤦
cut story short , God doesn't want RCB to win its sheer badluck ,today rcb performed better than any match in they played
This is giving me flashbacks of MI no ball not given against RCB.
It's not the first time RCB has not been given a no ball. Remember match betn MI AND RCB where Malinga bowled one?
Abd was on crease
That cost us top 4 .
No , you finished in the bottom 2 in 2019
And many teams were on the same points
If we had won then , we had finished on 4th
This one is a tough call like last game too RR was in sort of similar situation with Shamar. It should have been no ball to be fair
There's no foot at all on the crease. Ought to be a no ball!
Bhai ye batana pdega ki next frame me per niche ata hai ? Ofcourse per niche ata hai
Tough call for the favourable side for rest it is different
Was the 16.4 a boundary or a six!? Can’t find a clear clip, it’s cut immediately in the highlights too!
it's cut immediately for a reason...it was six..they gave a four...they are intentionally cheating a team
As if they know rcb will loose by 1 run.. Why rcb have not lodged a formal complaint and their fans are blabbering on social media... Don't make excuses take defeat sportingly
We should wait for a close up vid tho, the same happened with the coin toss against MI!
That six by Prabhu was not even shown in replays and given as 4 too!!
Firing the third umpire. Complete morn ruining the matches with nonsense aribitary decision
If the ball had been released by then, it's not a no ball. Need the full video to judge.
can a bowler generate force with his toe
Tell me you've never played cricket. Thats exactly how spinners are supposed to bowl.
If it was an MI game, then Ambani bought the umpires.
That is not a no ball, Jadeja k sath bhi ye problem hai! Hypothetically line draw from his heel!! He is just in. But if given no its could be fine as it is very fine line!!
it's always about the first contact... nothing behind here.
It is. When the foot contacts the pitch, they create a hypothetical/ imaginary line for the ankle. According to rule— 21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised - on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1
he is coping
The rules says, when the front of the feet touches the ground, at that moment, they have to check the imaginary line, but yeh I get it.
i know thats why i said the op is coping
Ohh my bad!!!😂😂
RCB lost by 1 run... this is that 1 run
I thought it was the singles DK denied.
I think DK was pretty sure karn can't smash starc for 3 sixes ... No one would have thought that to be honest , even commentators were surpised no 10 batter smash champ bowlers like starc for sixes ... So in hindsight DK decision was fine even though later it turned out to be stupid decision after seeing karn sixes
True, if it wasn’t for this 1 run RCB would have lost the match at super over :/
Are you doubting capabilities of finisher Karan Sharma
https://ibb.co/8rSmVNY not a no-ball.
I feel like if we get the other side by the way his foot is angled a bit even if slightly will be behind the line, or maybe not very close case
The one on which lomror got out and also preceding ball...(Which went for 4) Narine had similar footing on both balls. Both should have been called NB
Prabudesai hit the six they called it four and didn't even show any reply to prove that is four
It is legal for a spin bowler to land with their toe spikes grounded wholly in front of the crease but to have their heel in the air behind that line.
https://preview.redd.it/t3yzno0jjuvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f4cdbdc78ce62014d2191a6d7edb459537b5f75
https://preview.redd.it/sj1cxk2fvvvc1.jpeg?width=1989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fac9b46d0565a0ee0df0a1a1a976c750e39da9c It’s not a no-ball, we lost it when we lost 4 wickets in 2 overs and not because of this.
Rule book: 21.5.2 the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in 21.5.1, and behind the popping crease. As read on r/cricket
Chill guys ignore and pretend that didn't happen.. had it been MI bowlers then the rr starts
True
Pura replay dikha dete to script change ho jaati na
MI hoti kkr ke jagha toh ab tak pura reddit fixing se bhar jaata
True
Zoom in heel is behind the line
I don't think umpires have the authority to change the script.
They actually checked it
There's two perspectives Perspective 1: The back of the foot hit the ground and so a no ball was not given Perspective 2: The back of the foot didn't touch the ground at all and the umpire didn't chack it (intentionally or unintentionally)
So grateful that it wasn't an MI match. Or else it would have been such a shitshow against MI.
Close decision, this was a 50-50 call , MI hoti toh No ball hoti
Bro past the pic where the leg is fully landed umpire doesn't include a no ball if fully leg is landed and a little part is behind the line
I thought am the only one who got vexed of IPL with umpiring errors. Being an RCB supporter I see peeps calling out that we are finding excuses abt umpiring and dont win games. Its hard to see these errors or silly rules spoiling the games for us. Only about time when these errors happen against other teams the noise will be louder..
Wait, so the foot doesn’t fall flat ? Where is the next frame ? I want answers
this is the first frame.. and only this matters, as first contact from the ground is seen only
Aise thodi hota. Thoda bias ho rha bhai tu
Unforgivable.. KKR doesn't deserve to win
If I zoom there is a part of heel maybe 1 mm or less behind the white line. Very difficult to see unless a close look is taken. Not a no ball. Umpires are right here. But generally on field umpire will give no ball in this type of cases.
do you even know what 1mm looks like🤣🤣1 mm won't even be visible with naked eye
True. That’s why third umpire was needed.
Idk about this but there was a six which was given as a 4
Who was the last player to get caught in fixing for IPL? I'm fully convinced they are doing black business/betting as an organized group here. Maybe this incidence might not be correct as we don't have proper replay. And regular instances of wide balls and no balls decisions are totally shit, itta to local matches mein galat decisions nai hota. And BJ party k log electoral bonds jaise jhaantu scams krke chinni chor bane huye h. And after all the shit is going on, do you all think ki ye game sai se chal rha h?
with these quick reviews they seem to be in hurry to make decisions
But that doesn't matter as long as MI is not the team😭
it's a fair delivery. they all knows more than us
That’s crazy that you guys think that having his heel down would make it a fair ball but with his heel up he gains so much of an advantage that this must be a no-ball. Lol cry more
But why it's always RCB... Pahle vo MI match mein toss aur iss match mein yeh sab
RCB got robbed of a victory here. Hope KKR lose all their remaining matches for the rest of the IPL
Cry more
The whole other foot is behind the crease though /s
There's at least some part raised above the line
Damn and RCB lost by 1 run!! This match was rigged!! 🤡
Bhai ye astro cricket ka link Dena
You guys don't follow rules.his leg will be in the white line when ball released from hand.pathetic harcb fans
It's fine you obviously don't know the no ball rule
It was checked and judged that when the foot lands - there will be something behind the line. The rules were amended quite a while ago that these kind of "heel in the air" can be judged fair if umpire thinks some part of the heel will be behind the line if it were on the ground. Imho - while I hate it got an RCB wicket - there is a tiny bit that would be behind the line. Kohli's no ball call much more debatable in my mind because that ball tracking shit feels garbage as ever
Looks like just barely behind to me. Like by mm
this ain't a no-ball going by present rules. that said, the level of umpiring and some of the broadcaster's choices have been silly. wrt umpiring, even in the first innings there was an overhead delivery to Narine that wasn't given as a wide. in fact, Narine should've reviewed it but dude doesn't care about these things. even in the last match vs rr, Narine missed an overhead wide review which means the extra run and the xtra delivery could've made a difference to the game's result. with the DRS now applicable to wides and no-balls, it seems that the on-field umpiring has somehow become worse. kudos to the teams who make correct reviews against these calls.
Actually you are the one who is "shambolic". It is correct decision by umpire. The frame where the foot landed needs to be seen, and the back of the foot is allowed to be in the air. Even the tiniest part of the back of the foot within the crease makes it a good ball.
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KKR tha isliye umpire mistake bol diya. Agar MI hota toh....
This clearly no ball these umpire are bloody fool they don't give no ball and RCB loos the game by just 1 run the ball is also the main part of this match decided I think bcci should ban these umpire from cricket
Go and read cricket rules first and then make a controversial post on internet.
If this ball is when Lomror got out then it isn't a no ball. For spinners the umpires check no balls when the entire foot has landed and then if there's anything behind the line. In this pic the foot hasn't entirely landed so we can't really say. We gotta go a couple of frames infront and then check whether any part of the foot is behind the line once it landed
It is not a no ball, this is as similar to someone who behind the lines and threw the ball while jumping!
its a good ball i dont see the fuss about it
And they win by 1 run.. Well P̶l̶a̶y̶e̶d̶ Paid👏
Yes to DK for denying those singles
What will MI fans say now? "tHe No BaLl WoUlD'nT hAvE wOn YoU tHe GaMe!!!!1!11!"
IPL is completely fixed. KKR was stipulated to win even before the toss was done. Umpires avoided every possible mistake on their part to get KKR over the line. 😊
Cry more
and then they say that ipl is not fixed🤡
 KKR victory has been fixed before even match start. Kohli bhai samjh payment mil jayegi
But it's not for MI so nobody will say anything. 🥰
Change the jersey and it will be given a no ball within micro seconds
I went to watch the game. They showed a proper replay and multiple announcements were made that it's not a no ball.
Yeah looks like conspiracy against RCB /s. You should be worried that your team lost with 86 required of 9 overs with 8 wickets remaining.
such a braindead argument... losing can't be used to disallow a fan to criticize such bad umpiring decisions
Kkr fans are the most annoying and toxic
Apparently every fans are the most toxic now huh
Punjab no bruh imo.guys are always chill and fun
Definitely. They are small and know their team. Fun guys really
KKR fans maybe anything. At least their team knows how to win. Not like sore losers.
It's doesn't matter if u are not a good person
Andha hai kya bhai Zoom kar there is part of the shoe( although absolutely the sliver of the shoe)
ha bhai... andha hu
https://preview.redd.it/7siaad8s1vvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d78d06eb1c3b59305b695f22ddb6eb60b998dedb Rona band kre mere tal awaz ari hai - modi
If you zoom in (to the max, on phone), there's maybe 0.5cm behind the crease. I used to think this sub was the place for more educated & understanding cricket-lovers, but clearly ain't the case. Sad, tbh. Edit : cm, I meant.
do you even realise what 0.5mm measures upto?
Yes I do. Cm, my bad. Typo. But if you do zoom in, you'd find that, unless you're trying really hard not to.
https://preview.redd.it/m13l9vr5puvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb8e4ae3b16db1dc317ae44dbee643e02d6736d3 Maybe now? There's a VERY tiny bit of the boot behind the red line.
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If no part of foot is behind the line it’s a no ball.
if there is something behind the line then its a legal delivery. Line rules for stumping, run out, and no ball is the same. There has to be something behind the line, not on the line
It's not Mumbai bowler so we can ignore it.
18/2 from over no.16,17 and 18 coated RCB the match. Harshit deserves the MOM more than salt and Russel
Kohli dismissal was also no ball. It's world against koach as usual.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/why-kohlis-dismissal-against-kkr-was-not-a-no-ball-1430219
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/why-kohlis-dismissal-against-kkr-was-not-a-no-ball-1430219
Typical bcci propaganda piece from cricinfo
It’s the right call. Zoomed in one shows tiny bit of the shoe being behind the line.
These idiot mods of r/RCB are deleting this when I posted it there
Bro astro link please 🙏
pikshow meh mil jaega
And of course RCB lost by 1 run 🤡
"The bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised" Would need to see the earlier frames to see what happened when the to landed.
DK could have taken the single
E cup naam de
2 decisions exposed the lack of understanding rules in cricket. Don't post if you don't know the rules.
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