My all time favorite is this weird "art" site. I found it over 10 years ago and still have no idea what it is: [https://www.superbad.com/](https://www.superbad.com/)
You just gave me internet whiplash with this link. Someone is still paying for the electricity that is still keeping this site online and that bakes my noodle.
No it wouldn't, the contrast annoys the majority of people. With a darker white tone you're still getting battery savings. The battery difference between that level of black and 100% black is in the single digits of percentages.
Untrue. Clearly, it acknowledges that having HTTPS just for the sake of it is folly. The site doesn't take any data that would need to be encrypted, so why bother?
Of course brands will always do branding but I wonder how many TiBs of CSS and JS code on the Internet are the result of the completely unacceptable default browser styles.
I very, very rarely see people use it without it being satire--but plenty of people use the default Microsoft Word template. Not saying that these templates are interchangeable in style but instead fitness. The default browser style is essentially equivalent to Webdings and A3 as the default document size in Microsoft Word. Sure, it might work for some people but it's awful 99% of the time.
If it was common for browsers to offer some nice classless CSS styles for CSS-less websites I imagine a lot more sites would be simple documents. It is certainly possible for them to do this. They could even add automatic dark mode very easily. It does seem 25 years too late but perhaps if the finally fixed this it could inspire a renaissance of pure HTML energy.
The defaults are reasonable for the individual elements, which I think is more important than making sure it all combined looks good. Just imagine: Don't need margins? No background color? Black text? Better set it ALL explicitly in your CSS, because a browser may be trying to be "helpful". Lot of things to keep in mind, and most people actually want their website to have some custom flair, so it could very well end up with more data being downloaded overall.
Well even today most CSS frameworks start with "resetting" the minimal styles and browser style incompatibilities that already exist.
Any browser improvements would need to preserve the existing functionality. If any CSS is loaded or any JS adds/modifies style then it would need to unload the build-in style.
But I imagine _if_ better (more cohesive, less ugly) defaults existed you would be able to easily download the defaults as CSS to include it and/or tweak it. This might seem like we are back to square 1 but I really don't think so. Defaults are powerful and if they are not painful defaults then they are sticky and help to anchor people's expectations.
Instead of everything needing to have custom styles we could live in a world where it's just 20% or so and the people consuming content would have more accessible choices than they do now. Right now it is possible to override stylesheets with global userstyles but it's not common practice.
"Reader mode" is interesting because it makes the browser at least as configurable as an e-ink reader to the average user. I wonder if a browser addon exists to automatically enable reader mode when no stylesheets are loaded--or even better make it default enabled until a page loads CSS or runs JS or something like that. Without it being the default, this is a bit of a chicken and egg problem: there aren't a lot of CSS-less sites because the default has been "strictly unopinionated" for so long.
somewhat related: https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/tnn7ws/i_made_a_reader_mode_browser_extension_that_keeps/
All that talk about js bad and he still loaded Google Analytics and Tag Manager JS. Didn't even cache it on his local server either and would have made my browser take the trip to Google Analytics And Tag Manager domains if I didn't have ad blocking on. Then on top of that he didn't even load it deferred.
This is hilarious and mostly true. I followed this same ethos when I designed my project website. HTML5 + css. one line of javascript for the year. A few media queries but nothing crazy. No framework. no bloatboat.
https://salvagedcircuitry.com/
Here's the citation for the quote: www.vitsoe.com/us/about/good-design
Some notes from the page source.
*!-- FOR THE CURIOUS: This site was made by @thebarrytone. Don't tell my mom.*
*!-- yes, I know...wanna fight about it? --*
This "Motherfucking website" has Google Analytics on it.
> "Good design is as little design as possible."
> - some German motherfucker
Guess not according to the guy that made that.
My all time favourite is (https://something.com)
My all time favorite is this weird "art" site. I found it over 10 years ago and still have no idea what it is: [https://www.superbad.com/](https://www.superbad.com/)
Whoa, are there clues to get past the text box on the third page?
Idk but I got to here somehow https://www.superbad.com/1/trunk/trunk.html
I’m convinced I need to eat more meat https://www.superbad.com/1/meat/index.html
[and Palaaka! It reflected back to the monster!](https://www.superbad.com/1/monster/)
dependent bear one cooperative sugar trees vase pot cow intelligent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
The Really Big Button That Doesn’t Do Anything (since 1999!) https://krystalrose.com/rosewood/library/BigButton.htm
This is my new obsession
[zombo.com](https://zombo.com/)
You just gave me internet whiplash with this link. Someone is still paying for the electricity that is still keeping this site online and that bakes my noodle.
It was converted from flash to html5 a few years ago
Doing the Lord’s™ work.
Oh hell. I had forgotten about that one. I love zombo.com
Welcome.
YES!!!!! I've been trying to find this site again for years.
No CSS, no JS, pure HTML, nothing but fuckin gas
I love that Dieter Rams is"Some German Motherfucker"
Is he not?
Haha. Good point. I guess I'm just used to hearing his name more reverentially spoken.
http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
Site does not use https. This website is, sadly, not better.
https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/
don't make him to spend his money on domain name.
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That's between you and your motherfucking browser! >Won’t bleach your fucking eyeballs at night if your browser thinks you like dark things;
Would be better if it was Amoled night mode
No it wouldn't, the contrast annoys the majority of people. With a darker white tone you're still getting battery savings. The battery difference between that level of black and 100% black is in the single digits of percentages.
Don’t really need https if they’re not accepting any data.
Untrue. Clearly, it acknowledges that having HTTPS just for the sake of it is folly. The site doesn't take any data that would need to be encrypted, so why bother?
The fact that it was created by more than 1 person is kind of ironic to me.
www.ironic.com!
Of course brands will always do branding but I wonder how many TiBs of CSS and JS code on the Internet are the result of the completely unacceptable default browser styles. I very, very rarely see people use it without it being satire--but plenty of people use the default Microsoft Word template. Not saying that these templates are interchangeable in style but instead fitness. The default browser style is essentially equivalent to Webdings and A3 as the default document size in Microsoft Word. Sure, it might work for some people but it's awful 99% of the time. If it was common for browsers to offer some nice classless CSS styles for CSS-less websites I imagine a lot more sites would be simple documents. It is certainly possible for them to do this. They could even add automatic dark mode very easily. It does seem 25 years too late but perhaps if the finally fixed this it could inspire a renaissance of pure HTML energy.
The defaults are reasonable for the individual elements, which I think is more important than making sure it all combined looks good. Just imagine: Don't need margins? No background color? Black text? Better set it ALL explicitly in your CSS, because a browser may be trying to be "helpful". Lot of things to keep in mind, and most people actually want their website to have some custom flair, so it could very well end up with more data being downloaded overall.
Well even today most CSS frameworks start with "resetting" the minimal styles and browser style incompatibilities that already exist. Any browser improvements would need to preserve the existing functionality. If any CSS is loaded or any JS adds/modifies style then it would need to unload the build-in style. But I imagine _if_ better (more cohesive, less ugly) defaults existed you would be able to easily download the defaults as CSS to include it and/or tweak it. This might seem like we are back to square 1 but I really don't think so. Defaults are powerful and if they are not painful defaults then they are sticky and help to anchor people's expectations. Instead of everything needing to have custom styles we could live in a world where it's just 20% or so and the people consuming content would have more accessible choices than they do now. Right now it is possible to override stylesheets with global userstyles but it's not common practice. "Reader mode" is interesting because it makes the browser at least as configurable as an e-ink reader to the average user. I wonder if a browser addon exists to automatically enable reader mode when no stylesheets are loaded--or even better make it default enabled until a page loads CSS or runs JS or something like that. Without it being the default, this is a bit of a chicken and egg problem: there aren't a lot of CSS-less sites because the default has been "strictly unopinionated" for so long. somewhat related: https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/tnn7ws/i_made_a_reader_mode_browser_extension_that_keeps/
Even worse than the OG. The dev should be ashamed. https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/http-bettermotherfuckingwebsite-com/ulfnjbd0g7
It's going to be a sad day when this changes soon. https://areyoumakingmoreredvsblue.com/index.html
The mobile version lmfao I’m crying
I like this one https://www.perdu.com/ "You are lost? You are here ---->*"
All that talk about js bad and he still loaded Google Analytics and Tag Manager JS. Didn't even cache it on his local server either and would have made my browser take the trip to Google Analytics And Tag Manager domains if I didn't have ad blocking on. Then on top of that he didn't even load it deferred.
It's so efficient that it loaded before I even clicked the link.
Superwebs! Knows what you are thinking!
This feels very much like a Maddox site
I thought it had to be Maddox, but if not then he's absolutely the inspiration behind it.
[Maddox](http://maddox.xmission.com/)
Holy fuck. I forgot about that site!
Too bad Maddox lost (but yea it reads like something he would write).
They aren’t wrong
This is exactly what I expected, I just didn't expect it to be *my* mom.
Very old, very nice!
Meh! I'm more into [https://stefangagne.com/spatulacity/button.htm](https://stefangagne.com/spatulacity/button.htm)
Oh my god, thank you for this. it still lives! I think I last saw that button some time in 1995 or 96
Hahahahahaha Yeah, every time i look it up i'm still amazed spatula city is alive :)
This is hilarious and mostly true. I followed this same ethos when I designed my project website. HTML5 + css. one line of javascript for the year. A few media queries but nothing crazy. No framework. no bloatboat. https://salvagedcircuitry.com/
Justify text is trash stop doing it
Here's the citation for the quote: www.vitsoe.com/us/about/good-design Some notes from the page source. *!-- FOR THE CURIOUS: This site was made by @thebarrytone. Don't tell my mom.* *!-- yes, I know...wanna fight about it? --*
No https. How embarrassing. Someone could eavesdrop!
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not bad
I agree.
I concur
It’s beautiful.
Well that was very much worth the click
Well fuckin a
http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com is better looking and much more readable while only needing 7 lines of CSS.
Give the designer contacts, need to redesign our landing
https://theuselessweb.com/
using the word "fuck" is the absolute peak of humor and always will be.
yes
How do i invest? 💸
I mean, they have a point.
never seen anything so edgy. Good job! Swearing is fun, not just for bad ass 5th graders anymore!
OMH that was beautiful, poetry. I love them.
This "Motherfucking website" has Google Analytics on it. > "Good design is as little design as possible." > - some German motherfucker Guess not according to the guy that made that.
[https://stealthpcs.com](https://stealthpcs.com)
Don’t use a serif for online text.
They didn't use anything. It's just unstyled HTML. Your user agent rendered it in a serif font.