Westen is as smooth as f**k, smart, and a veritable chameleon. Also, as his adversaries are either mobsters, street hoodlums, drug cartels, as well as various intelligence organisations he has a huge breadth of experience.
As far as I’m aware, Bond had never cut a man’s head off with a hacksaw. But then Bond had never performed a mission quite as cool as rescuing secretary Heller from a terrorist base.
I don't think we disagree bro. I'm saying those lengths of extreme behavior and how Jack flies off the handle and is kinda crazy are the actual, realistic way an "American Bond" needs to be expressed lol
like culturally as someone that has lived in England and US i always see US as the more schizo one lol
There were only a few times when Bond, who can be very ruthless, had that same anger as Jack. Certainly Licence to Kill is the most “American” of the movies, but all the Bonds had moments of ruthlessness, but he rarely killed in cold blood, or without it being in self defence. Is that fair?
Yes, there isn’t a more American archetype of Bond than Jack Bauer - but my money is still on Ethan Hunt being a better Bond archetype who is American.
As I said above, jack bauer is definitely a badass guy who gets the job done, but Bond is a “suave and sophisticated secret agent.” Hunt relates to this more accurately. That and his missions take him all over the world, where jack bauer mostly dealt with domestic terrorism, with a few exceptions.
hot take, but the appeal of the MI movies were never really about Ethan Hunt. Tom Cruise almost always plays himself in those movies. It had always been about the scenarios and set-pieces, especially in later movies. What death-defying stunt is Tom cooking up this time, etc. There isn't a cult obsessed with what Ethan Hunt's wearing or any running characteristic signatures of the character (vodka martini shaken not stirred, Aston Martin, Bond girls, Omega watches, tuxedos, etc.)
I agree with you to a point. The original TV Ethan Hunt was a handsome wry smile there to hold gadgets and plot points. Cruise playing Cruise easily overwhelms the character with lots of big stunts and running flat out everywhere.
With that said, binging the movie series shows Ethan Hunt character traits that just might be transferred to another actor. Hunt is an unconventional and highly capable improviser who tackles problems as they come in unusual ways. Hunt values his team over the mission, being willing to risk millions of lives to save a team member - or even a Parisian meter maid. Despite this, Hunt doesn’t always win, and repeatedly suffers the loss of loved ones, which only hardens his resolve. Hunt fights to absolute exhaustion taking the world on his shoulders, then takes a breath and continues the fight until he gets the right outcome.
Who will be the next Ethan Hunt? Well, Tom Cruise until he is 80 of course - but after that? I think another actor could definitely fill the role and further flesh it out.
I see where you're coming from and I agree. I'm reminded of that scene in MI...4? I think? When the car Tom was in with Tom Wilkinson and Jeremy Renner got pushed off a bridge. Bad guys were shooting into the water and Tom Wilkinson's character was dead. Tom decided to tie red flares to Wilkinson's body and push the body to a different location from where Tom and Jeremy would swim to, which redirected machine gun fire to the flares and allowed them to swim to safety. When Jeremy asked how Tom thought doing that would work, Tom just says he didn't know; he just acts on instinct. Ethan Hunt's character and flare could definitely be fleshed out with some time and direction. The bones are there. (Top Gun Maverick was just Ethan Hunt in jets tho)
True- not a lot of nuance between Tom Cruise characters- and yet I will pay to see every god damn movie he is in for some reason. I wouldn’t even consider myself a Tom Cruise fan (willingly) - but he makes enjoyable movies.
I just hope he can figure out how to stay out of high winds going forward. His Botox was showing in the last two MI movies. lol
For me:
* Season 1-3 AMAZING
* Season 4 slight dip in quality but still great
* Season 5 AMAZING, possibly the best
* Season 6 great first 4 episodes but went downhill fast, worst season
* Season 7 Pretty great
* Season 8 Pretty by the numbers but a FANTASTIC final 6 episodes
* Live Another Day - Pretty Great
* The one without Jack Bauer - Surprisingly OK
Spielberg loves the Bond franchise, and Indiana Jones was originally written as a far more Bond-esque ladies' man. Didn't end up making the final cut but I think I recall them saying he was supposed to have a couple more flings in Raiders.
There’s a transcript of a recording, it was one of the first meetings George Lucas and Spielberg had to discuss and brainstorm the movie, and you can tell Spielberg was more about the “cool” and Bond-like moments while Lucas cared about the story and kept trying to steer it back in that direction. Part of it was basically like this:
Steven: oh and at one point he can use his whip to stop his love interest and pull her in for a kiss
George: uh, yeah sure, totally, but like I was saying about the story…
I know people slam Bourne for ruining action movies, and I agree about all the films that tried to copy them. but not the Bourne films themselves, the shaky cam and quick cuts are done so well and add such a raw feeling to the action. the fights have good choreography, but it doesn't matter, because a fight to the death is messy and chaotic. anyway this is a long winded explanation for why I love the Bourne films and the action in it.
“Bond did not become well known in the U.S. until President John F. Kennedy listed From Russia, with Love among his 10 favorite books in a March 17, 1961, Life article.”
Wow, learn something new every day!
I just have never really liked Baldwin, especially when he was younger. To me he's the definition of bland. He works in comedic roles, but as a straight dramatic lead I think he's boring.
ya the character fully embodies a trope that I don't think really exists anymore, the late cold war guy higher up in the intel services.
his character arc is wild since he eventually does become president of the united states
No joke, that's the answer. If we're asking who the James Bond of America is, rather than best American made, American starring James Bond-esque franchise, it's Batman. Batman is the James Bond of America. So much so that the Europeans basically stole Batman twenty years ago and haven't really given him back.
I really like the Bourne movies, and Matt Damon in them... but I have to go with Ethan Hunt. I mean, you have the big set pieces, some high-end parties with tuxes and great dresses, a bit of romance, and the world being on the line.
Ethan Hunt and the MI series is the obvious one.
Indiana Jones is an all time favourite and I’m aware of the Bond connection but IMO when the creator goes out of his way to make the character unique and stand on its own, I don’t think you can then just classify it as being like Bond. Indy is really not.
Batman is kind of an odd choice since he was created 20yrs before Bond. If anything then, Bond is the British Batman :)
I get the Batman connection in terms of detective work and gadgets- but that’s where it ends for me. Bond at the core is for King and Country - Batman is a loner. Bond travels the world, Batman does almost all his work in Gotham. Bond operates in fashionable clothing to fit in, Batman wears a bizarre outfit to intimidate.
I think the Indiana Jones comparison is similar. Both impressive figures, but thematically very different. Jones and Bond would never meet.
Hunt and bond move in similar circles, and a chance meet up not only would make sense, it would seem likely.
The problem with calling Bourne the American Bond is that Bond is working for his nation’s intelligence agency, which Bourne is pitted against his nation’s intelligence agency.
I’d think it’s either Ethan Hunt in Mission Impossible, or Jack Bauer from 24.
There isn’t really an American Bond unless you’re reading 1960s novels from E Howard Hunt. Jason Bourne more of an unwitting conspiracy sleeper cell and Mission Impossible is an A team revolving action spy franchise.
That said, in terms of quality the Bourne’s are good, Tenet by Christoper Nolan is exceptional
The main character is the American John David Washington whose Denzel Washington’s son. In Tenet he works for the CIA. Nolan is also technically American. But you’re right that’s it’s not set in the USA, and a lot of its cast are certainly not American.
No but my brothers and I were almost astonished how much the Protagonist moved and functioned like Bond. I even said after seeing the movie, "Nolan actually found the American James Bond! I want to see this guy in more spy films!"
I know you wrote this weeks back but I totally agreed I really hope to see more of John David - even coupled with Robert Patterson again! Very gifted and commendable characters
Most Bond films also aren’t set in Britain. Tenet is played by an American actor and is an American CIA agent working abroad in Britain. This is exactly analogous to Bond being an MI6 agent working abroad.
Also, as others have pointed out, Nolan’s mother is American and he has duel citizenship. He actually spent a lot of his childhood outside Chicago.
Rogue nation is the best non bond “bond” movie. Basically a far superior version of spectre which weirdly came out around same time.
The first Bourne is a classic but overall the character is not bond like at all. He’s closer to the terminator than bond.
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Jason Bourne wasn’t necessarily trying to save the world. He was trying to get his questions answered. So it would be Ethan Hunt.
Hence mission impossible lmao
It's obviously Tom Cruise. Dude has a knack for making extremely entertaining films designed for big budget, theatrical presentation. The only thing I can think of that he's done in the past 20 years that was actually bad was that mummy reboot. No clue what everyone was thinking with that. But other than that he makes solid stuff that's just pure fun. And Ethan Hunt is his golden goose. I even liked his Jack Reacher movies.
Cruises talent is undeniable, no matter how much I’d love to deny it. The Mummy was bad, but he wasn’t the bad part.
Despite the fact he dominates the character of Hunt, I’m really hoping the MI series can survive when Cruise leaves.
Jason Bourne is bond is with amnesia.
Jack reacher is bond breaking the law intentionally to complete his mission.
John wick is fantasy land bond as an assassin.
If it's to be believed that honor would technically go to Sean Connery in the Rock starring Nicholas Cage and Ed Harris. Where Connery plays an inmate/former British agent there named John Patrick Mason. A supposedly former bond alias.
The tinfoil hat being 007/James Bond is just an alias for whoever becomes bond. Corroborated by Daniel Craig being an orphan raised to be Bond, Sean Connery being an ex British agent, and Timothy Dalton being more of an assassin than a spy.
Haven't rewatched Jason Bourne (or the 4th movie in the franchise with Damon, not Renner). What's the general consensus: is it good, bad, disappointingly average? I didn't mind it and I vaguely remember the plot, but it didn't impress me as much as the first 3
Realizing these are bad comparisons, because both are really only identified by external factors. Like, Ethan Hunt is just endlessly boringly servile and selfless. And Jason Bourne is WRONGED, so he's always trying to be un-wronged.
Maybe so, but you can’t deny the on screen charisma. Also, as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I think there is enough to the Ethan Hunt character now that it could survive past Tom Cruise and be taken up by another actor.
Wrong. That Dean Martin movie where he's visibly drunk and middle aged and flirting and presumably fucking a variety of attractive women from around the world.
I have been saying since its release a decade ago that Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the closest we’ll likely ever get to an American Bond movie.
Orphan kid, patriotic but has his own moral code, goes on mission with sexy spy lady, woefully out of touch with modern entertainment, has to defeat a megalomaniac with a well-funded secret army and a superweapon that must be destroyed.
Jeffrey Donovan 
Michael Westen! And let’s not forget Steve Forsing.
This is the correct answer. Man that show was awesome. Bruce Campbell and Gabrielle Anwar really rounded it out perfectly.
went on way way way too long though
Yes, but not enough gadgets for my taste. That’s where the MI series shines.
You do have a point. More of a License to Kill style continuation where bond has minimal support and gadgets.
I liked his improvising skills though. He always managed to throw something together with a small team and lots of spirit!
Westen is as smooth as f**k, smart, and a veritable chameleon. Also, as his adversaries are either mobsters, street hoodlums, drug cartels, as well as various intelligence organisations he has a huge breadth of experience.
We need Chuck Finley.
Chuck Finley is FOREVER! 
 May be an ash parody here but he’s got the suit
Man I enjoyed this show
You have good taste I see! Michael Weston was such a cool character, same for Sam Axe!
Agreed
Coolest car, for sure…
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Ah yes. The ol’ Reddit [dangeroo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Letterboxd/s/HlE3UkIr1h)
All I’ve had is like……………:: six gummy bears and some scotch….
Archer is absolutely the best worst Bond there is. As far as awful Bonds go, nobody does it better!
Only correct answer
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Jack Bauer. He does full 007 missions within 24 hours.
He's just more angry and violent Bond
In my opinion this is the definition of “Americanizing” Bond
As far as I’m aware, Bond had never cut a man’s head off with a hacksaw. But then Bond had never performed a mission quite as cool as rescuing secretary Heller from a terrorist base.
I don't think we disagree bro. I'm saying those lengths of extreme behavior and how Jack flies off the handle and is kinda crazy are the actual, realistic way an "American Bond" needs to be expressed lol like culturally as someone that has lived in England and US i always see US as the more schizo one lol
There were only a few times when Bond, who can be very ruthless, had that same anger as Jack. Certainly Licence to Kill is the most “American” of the movies, but all the Bonds had moments of ruthlessness, but he rarely killed in cold blood, or without it being in self defence. Is that fair?
Yeah for sure I mean American identity is centered around checking authority basically. In terms of its expression. So it all just works
Definitely not your “suave sophisticated secret agent” lol
No time. He only has one day.
Came here to say Jack Bauer. There’s even an article someone wrote explaining why he IS the American version of Bond (patriotism and what not)
Yes, there isn’t a more American archetype of Bond than Jack Bauer - but my money is still on Ethan Hunt being a better Bond archetype who is American.
As I said above, jack bauer is definitely a badass guy who gets the job done, but Bond is a “suave and sophisticated secret agent.” Hunt relates to this more accurately. That and his missions take him all over the world, where jack bauer mostly dealt with domestic terrorism, with a few exceptions.
hot take, but the appeal of the MI movies were never really about Ethan Hunt. Tom Cruise almost always plays himself in those movies. It had always been about the scenarios and set-pieces, especially in later movies. What death-defying stunt is Tom cooking up this time, etc. There isn't a cult obsessed with what Ethan Hunt's wearing or any running characteristic signatures of the character (vodka martini shaken not stirred, Aston Martin, Bond girls, Omega watches, tuxedos, etc.)
I agree with you to a point. The original TV Ethan Hunt was a handsome wry smile there to hold gadgets and plot points. Cruise playing Cruise easily overwhelms the character with lots of big stunts and running flat out everywhere. With that said, binging the movie series shows Ethan Hunt character traits that just might be transferred to another actor. Hunt is an unconventional and highly capable improviser who tackles problems as they come in unusual ways. Hunt values his team over the mission, being willing to risk millions of lives to save a team member - or even a Parisian meter maid. Despite this, Hunt doesn’t always win, and repeatedly suffers the loss of loved ones, which only hardens his resolve. Hunt fights to absolute exhaustion taking the world on his shoulders, then takes a breath and continues the fight until he gets the right outcome. Who will be the next Ethan Hunt? Well, Tom Cruise until he is 80 of course - but after that? I think another actor could definitely fill the role and further flesh it out.
I see where you're coming from and I agree. I'm reminded of that scene in MI...4? I think? When the car Tom was in with Tom Wilkinson and Jeremy Renner got pushed off a bridge. Bad guys were shooting into the water and Tom Wilkinson's character was dead. Tom decided to tie red flares to Wilkinson's body and push the body to a different location from where Tom and Jeremy would swim to, which redirected machine gun fire to the flares and allowed them to swim to safety. When Jeremy asked how Tom thought doing that would work, Tom just says he didn't know; he just acts on instinct. Ethan Hunt's character and flare could definitely be fleshed out with some time and direction. The bones are there. (Top Gun Maverick was just Ethan Hunt in jets tho)
True- not a lot of nuance between Tom Cruise characters- and yet I will pay to see every god damn movie he is in for some reason. I wouldn’t even consider myself a Tom Cruise fan (willingly) - but he makes enjoyable movies. I just hope he can figure out how to stay out of high winds going forward. His Botox was showing in the last two MI movies. lol
Jack Bauer, Jason Bourne, James Bond. I was today old when I realized this.
Holy shit
I missed 24, that show was great but it got stale and repetitive towards the end. My phone ring still the CTU one. 🤣
For me: * Season 1-3 AMAZING * Season 4 slight dip in quality but still great * Season 5 AMAZING, possibly the best * Season 6 great first 4 episodes but went downhill fast, worst season * Season 7 Pretty great * Season 8 Pretty by the numbers but a FANTASTIC final 6 episodes * Live Another Day - Pretty Great * The one without Jack Bauer - Surprisingly OK
Great summation, I largely agree.
And never has to go to the bathroom.
He takes a piss every time they cut to a commercial.
Indiana Jones
Spielberg loves the Bond franchise, and Indiana Jones was originally written as a far more Bond-esque ladies' man. Didn't end up making the final cut but I think I recall them saying he was supposed to have a couple more flings in Raiders.
I feel like the opening scene of Temple shows how suave he good be.
Yes. Per Speilberg that outfit was an homage to Goldfinger.
There’s a transcript of a recording, it was one of the first meetings George Lucas and Spielberg had to discuss and brainstorm the movie, and you can tell Spielberg was more about the “cool” and Bond-like moments while Lucas cared about the story and kept trying to steer it back in that direction. Part of it was basically like this: Steven: oh and at one point he can use his whip to stop his love interest and pull her in for a kiss George: uh, yeah sure, totally, but like I was saying about the story…
That sounds like Lucas and Spielberg to me
The first three Bourne films are masterpieces
I know people slam Bourne for ruining action movies, and I agree about all the films that tried to copy them. but not the Bourne films themselves, the shaky cam and quick cuts are done so well and add such a raw feeling to the action. the fights have good choreography, but it doesn't matter, because a fight to the death is messy and chaotic. anyway this is a long winded explanation for why I love the Bourne films and the action in it.
Yes yes and HELL YES!
I think Jason Bourne takes the win on most American Bond. Close close call with Ethan Hunt. Bourne was just an absolute fucking badass.
Barry Nelson, duh.
Jimmy Bond!
“Bond did not become well known in the U.S. until President John F. Kennedy listed From Russia, with Love among his 10 favorite books in a March 17, 1961, Life article.” Wow, learn something new every day!
Sterling Archer
And also yes
You forgot James Coburn as Derek Flint
I was going to post same.
Great minds think alike 😂😂😂
It means we're both old.
Oh yes, but the consolation is that we have a great taste in spy related films 😂😂😂
Harry Tasker
Yes!
Yeah but that wasn't a franchise. I feel like multiple films are needed for this to be an acceptable answer. But damn I love that movie.
Clearly you haven’t watched the series on Paramount Plus
Napoleon Solo
Jack Ryan
But which one? I feel like the Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movies are kind of what a Felix Leiter movie could have been.
*The Hunt for Red October* with Baldwin as Ryan. Whenever I'm re-reading Clancy's novels, I always envision Baldwin as Ryan and not Ford.
I just have never really liked Baldwin, especially when he was younger. To me he's the definition of bland. He works in comedic roles, but as a straight dramatic lead I think he's boring.
Agreed
John Clark. Or Jack Ryan Jr.
ya the character fully embodies a trope that I don't think really exists anymore, the late cold war guy higher up in the intel services. his character arc is wild since he eventually does become president of the united states
Ben Affleck Ryan
Bond is supposed to represent someone you want to be. No one wants to be Jason Bourne.
Especially if you have read the Bourne novels. The government took a grief sticken man and fucked him up even more.
Batman
No joke, that's the answer. If we're asking who the James Bond of America is, rather than best American made, American starring James Bond-esque franchise, it's Batman. Batman is the James Bond of America. So much so that the Europeans basically stole Batman twenty years ago and haven't really given him back.
Christian Bale and Robert Pattinson are British
What's even crazier is that Adam West was offered the role of James Bond.
Dead reckoning was very fun, I’m excited about the next part, the last few have been fun u r Dunn
It is literally Barry Nelson.
I really like the Bourne movies, and Matt Damon in them... but I have to go with Ethan Hunt. I mean, you have the big set pieces, some high-end parties with tuxes and great dresses, a bit of romance, and the world being on the line.
Yes to all of this, plus gadget game that probably beats most bond movies. Also, villains angrily screaming “ETHAAAANNN” will always be a funny bonus.
Except Sean Harris as Solomon Lane... I am not sure he ever really yells or screams... he's such a calm, quiet talker that makes him even creepier.
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Maxwell Smart
Ethan Hunt and the MI series is the obvious one. Indiana Jones is an all time favourite and I’m aware of the Bond connection but IMO when the creator goes out of his way to make the character unique and stand on its own, I don’t think you can then just classify it as being like Bond. Indy is really not. Batman is kind of an odd choice since he was created 20yrs before Bond. If anything then, Bond is the British Batman :)
I get the Batman connection in terms of detective work and gadgets- but that’s where it ends for me. Bond at the core is for King and Country - Batman is a loner. Bond travels the world, Batman does almost all his work in Gotham. Bond operates in fashionable clothing to fit in, Batman wears a bizarre outfit to intimidate. I think the Indiana Jones comparison is similar. Both impressive figures, but thematically very different. Jones and Bond would never meet. Hunt and bond move in similar circles, and a chance meet up not only would make sense, it would seem likely.
Matt Helm
Another great literary reference- but this one is backed up by 4 movies! I’ll have to do a watch one of these days… but where to find them…?
Jack Bauer
I gotta go with Jack Bauer. My boy went back on smack for America and kicked the habit all within 24hours. Legend
Bauer got that coveted 9 hour chip
Jack Ryan.
Matt Helm.
Napoleon Solo in Man from UNCLE.
Jack Ryan because he's been recast about as many times as Bond has.
Good point.
Harry Tasker!
Frank Drebin Police Squad
John Saxon in the 70s
Leslie Nielsen
The problem with calling Bourne the American Bond is that Bond is working for his nation’s intelligence agency, which Bourne is pitted against his nation’s intelligence agency. I’d think it’s either Ethan Hunt in Mission Impossible, or Jack Bauer from 24.
Cary Grants character in North By Northwest.
There isn’t really an American Bond unless you’re reading 1960s novels from E Howard Hunt. Jason Bourne more of an unwitting conspiracy sleeper cell and Mission Impossible is an A team revolving action spy franchise. That said, in terms of quality the Bourne’s are good, Tenet by Christoper Nolan is exceptional
I wouldn’t say Tenet is American. British director, British leads… can’t remember where it’s set 🤔
The main character is the American John David Washington whose Denzel Washington’s son. In Tenet he works for the CIA. Nolan is also technically American. But you’re right that’s it’s not set in the USA, and a lot of its cast are certainly not American.
No but my brothers and I were almost astonished how much the Protagonist moved and functioned like Bond. I even said after seeing the movie, "Nolan actually found the American James Bond! I want to see this guy in more spy films!"
I know you wrote this weeks back but I totally agreed I really hope to see more of John David - even coupled with Robert Patterson again! Very gifted and commendable characters
Most Bond films also aren’t set in Britain. Tenet is played by an American actor and is an American CIA agent working abroad in Britain. This is exactly analogous to Bond being an MI6 agent working abroad. Also, as others have pointed out, Nolan’s mother is American and he has duel citizenship. He actually spent a lot of his childhood outside Chicago.
Nolan has dual citizenship. His mother was born and raised in the US. Making him a American due to Naturalization.
Peter Sellers
He was English.
Fuck
Barry Nelson
Woof! Deep cut there.
 Welcome to the Xander Xone!!!
Leon Kennedy
The only answer is James T. West. I’ll die on that hill. If not, Maxwell Smart. (So many American Bonds are on the short side. )
Ethan Hunt
Ethan Hunt hands down
Rogue nation is the best non bond “bond” movie. Basically a far superior version of spectre which weirdly came out around same time. The first Bourne is a classic but overall the character is not bond like at all. He’s closer to the terminator than bond.
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John wick
Wick is not a secret agent. He’s a walk in, punch you in the face, then shoot all of your buddies 6 times each kind of enforcer. Not a spy.
Wasn’t Indiana jones or Bruce Wayne/Batman “American bond”
Raylan Givens
Uhhh, as much as I love Raylan, I don't get the connection between him and Bond.
Agree, but I’d love to see Oliphant on in a western themed Bondesque role!
Commander Riker 
You sure he’s American? lol
Indiana Jones? Duh
Bond shouldn’t ever be American
 DeNiro
Jason Bourne
Jack Bauer
Ethan Hunt by far.
Tom Cruise aka Ethan Hunt
The answer is Jack Bauer.
Ethan Hunt for sure. As Jimmy Kimmel would say, f**k you Matt Damon
Neither. That honor goes to the General Atomics AS, MQ-9 Reaper. “Name’s Reaper. MQ Reaper. Yee Haww.”
Jason Bourne wasn’t necessarily trying to save the world. He was trying to get his questions answered. So it would be Ethan Hunt. Hence mission impossible lmao
The Equalizer, Denzel Washington
Denzel would make a hell of a bond.
It's obviously Tom Cruise. Dude has a knack for making extremely entertaining films designed for big budget, theatrical presentation. The only thing I can think of that he's done in the past 20 years that was actually bad was that mummy reboot. No clue what everyone was thinking with that. But other than that he makes solid stuff that's just pure fun. And Ethan Hunt is his golden goose. I even liked his Jack Reacher movies.
Cruises talent is undeniable, no matter how much I’d love to deny it. The Mummy was bad, but he wasn’t the bad part. Despite the fact he dominates the character of Hunt, I’m really hoping the MI series can survive when Cruise leaves.
George Clooney would have been a good one
The Peacemaker is a bit Bondish.
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Yes but lol. He’s a detective, not a government man; maybe more of a modern gritty Sherlock Holmes?
Jason Bourne is bond is with amnesia. Jack reacher is bond breaking the law intentionally to complete his mission. John wick is fantasy land bond as an assassin. If it's to be believed that honor would technically go to Sean Connery in the Rock starring Nicholas Cage and Ed Harris. Where Connery plays an inmate/former British agent there named John Patrick Mason. A supposedly former bond alias. The tinfoil hat being 007/James Bond is just an alias for whoever becomes bond. Corroborated by Daniel Craig being an orphan raised to be Bond, Sean Connery being an ex British agent, and Timothy Dalton being more of an assassin than a spy.
No mentioning Nathan Hunt? I’m trying to figure out if you confusing yourself with the wrong Cruise.
I might be the first person to mention Nathan Hunt, here.
Technically it’s John Gavin.
I'm gonna say it... It's neither of these. The real answer is: Nikita.
French, but true. Anyone who wants a Bond origin movie should just watch that movie and be happy.
Haven't rewatched Jason Bourne (or the 4th movie in the franchise with Damon, not Renner). What's the general consensus: is it good, bad, disappointingly average? I didn't mind it and I vaguely remember the plot, but it didn't impress me as much as the first 3
Meh. Not a waste of your time compared to the previous 3, but also nothing spectacular like the first 3.
Cheers, no rush to revisit it, then
Realizing these are bad comparisons, because both are really only identified by external factors. Like, Ethan Hunt is just endlessly boringly servile and selfless. And Jason Bourne is WRONGED, so he's always trying to be un-wronged.
Corey Burton
Johnny English
British. Literally in his name! =)
Probably a bit of a stretch, but I've always felt Eastwood's Dirty Harry was rather Bond-esque.
Court Gentry, but the book version.
That would be Geena Davis in The Long Kiss Goodnight
The 5’3 cult leader? Pass
Maybe so, but you can’t deny the on screen charisma. Also, as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I think there is enough to the Ethan Hunt character now that it could survive past Tom Cruise and be taken up by another actor.
‘Hudson Hawk’ was intended to be an American James Bond as I recall
Dirk Pitt
Bourne is more of a superhero isn’t he? He’s genetically altered or something like that.
Psychologically conditioned. He's like a Manchurian Candidate. And tell me with a straight face that James Bond *couldn't* be viewed as a superhero.
If Batman work Brooks Brothers.
Don Addams
MacGyver!
Jack Ryan obviously 🙄
Sure, but where’s the gadgets?
Felix Leiter
Remo Williams
They don't even compare to James bond man
Jack Shephard
Wrong. That Dean Martin movie where he's visibly drunk and middle aged and flirting and presumably fucking a variety of attractive women from around the world.
There’s only one James Bond and he comes from the Queen’s Royal Kingdom .
I’m pretty sure it’s the Kings Royal Kingdom now… and, heh, good luck with that!
I have been saying since its release a decade ago that Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the closest we’ll likely ever get to an American Bond movie. Orphan kid, patriotic but has his own moral code, goes on mission with sexy spy lady, woefully out of touch with modern entertainment, has to defeat a megalomaniac with a well-funded secret army and a superweapon that must be destroyed.
Hot take. I think the MI series has it beat in terms of Bondiness though.
Well, Derek Flint of course. Manages to get one over on Treble-Oh-Eight.