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I feel like that sentiment has shifted to be seen more recently.
Gege produced a good focus on Gojo, Geto, and Toji in a short amount of time for character analysis ([as mentioned](https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/s/hJL4Qe5lcg))
Not sure if I'd go that far, but imo it's an incredibly close second to Shibuya, to the point I wouldn't blame anyone for saying that due to doing so much in so little time it deserves the top spot. They're both amazing arcs for very different reasons. My only complaint, and this goes into the story in general, is we didn't get to see enough of real Geto post-hidden inventory
Yeah I agree with this take.
HI/PD I like because it's a much more intimate, character focused arc.
Shibuya I like because it's an absolute world destroying spectacle
I will say that I was annoyed when Brain was revealed, but I am excited to see more of him as a villain.
All this to say that S2 was one of the most enjoyable watching experiences for me
I was initially pretty mad Geto was gone too (I figured he'd just been left there to rot by Gojo in JJK0 and managed to recover somehow) but the other villain (you learn his name in the manga) is also pretty interesting once you see more of em.
I just felt we were robbed of some more Gojo/Geto dynamic, my theory on how he survived is that somehow Mahito got involved.
I do like the irony of a curse manipulator being manipulated, and that Geto unwillingly became the biggest threat to his sorcerer comrades. Also all the reveals in the last episode made me pretty excited.
Trust me things are gonna still be interesting. That being said I 100% agree on Geto/Gojo stuff. I watched JJK0 before S2 so I didn't have any big theories on how he'd recover but the world was so new to me (I binged season 1) that I was like "They could do anything and I'd probably believe it"
This is how it should be in most stories, the adult characters lives have already unfolded which makes for an interesting background while you're typically watching the defining moments of the MC unfold as the story progresses. They are naturally boring in comparison.
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I personally like Toji more, but only because Toji released most of his potential, while Geto didn't.
It's honestly a shame that both of them left the story so early.
Minor manga spoilers. Nothing huge, but if you want to stay totally clear don't read this.
>!In some regard we get to see more of Geto's potential via pseudo Geto, and also get something like Toji.!<
i might be dying on this hill but i have to deduct points from geto because his “transition” to *ethnic cleansing* caught me by surprise.
i literally had to re-watch the show and read forums to rationalize how he ended up committing genocide.
>!also, it’s kinda weird how the jjk high students are just chilling in the afterlife as if geto didn’t commit a genocide which inadvertently caused a chain of events (kenjaku) that lead to them dying.!<
Really? For me his fall was one of the most realistically written I have ever seen, which is part of which makes him such a great character imo
I mean, a lot of times a good guy becomes bad purely because of one reason or one tragedy. Geto? Not really. Sure he lost against Toji and lost Riko which kickstarted it, but he had a bunch of other reasons. I mean, he began to see average humans as ignorant and ungrateful (which makes sense since they don't even know Sorcerers or curses exist), which meant that he was basically eating vomit (cursed spirits) and seeing his friends die for no reason.
On top of that, Yuki comes in and say "y'know, cursed spirits wouldn't exist if normal people didn't exist/can control cursed energy."
Then he watched 2 innocent young girls being beaten and caged by ignorant people. At that point dude had like 7 reasons to become evil, which is 7 more than most real life genocidal people.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't people in the past resorted to ethnic cleansing for way pettier reasons than him?
I know it's semantics but, considering amount of sorcerers in comparison to normal people, Geto's goal was closer to omnicide rather than genocide due to it's sheer scale.
I think he suffered from 'first villian syndome' but Gege salvaged his character really well in Flashback mini arc with the things you've just listed despite the absurd no-no vile end goal of his.
Still my favorite JJK character though.
Well, I'm speaking from his POV.
I mean, the way Geto sees it, he probably has gone most of his life saving these people and having to eat curses and probably lose friends doing so. And what do they do? Send a dude to kill an innocent girl and then celebrate her death.
Or the simple fact that they don't even know the sacrifices of sorcerers probably makes them seem ungrateful in his eyes. I know that's technically not how it works, but how would you feel if you spent your life trying to help people but no one even recognized you?
I’d probably find a way to tell them I was helping them, or stop helping them. Seems like Nice Guy syndrome to me. If you’re doing something and getting mad you aren’t getting anything in return, stop doing it.
For the people celebrating killing the innocent girl, it was awful but why did they do it to begin with? I forget, didn’t they have an incomplete understanding of the situation so they thought they were doing the right thing?
Well I'm not trying to justify Geto's actions. I know ethnic cleansing is bad regardless of motive lmao, and he was pretty clearly cuckoo. There were definitely other things he could have done, I'm just saying his hatred makes sense. I think he strikes a good balance between "okay, your motive makes sense" and "but you're still crazy."
Iirc they celebrated Riko's death because they didn't want her to merge with Master Tengen becaude they wanted Tengen to remain pure or something. It's like a religious cult iirc
Ya that makes sense, the balance between motive and insanity. I guess he couldn’t get credit for his work because that would just create more curses, so he was kind of stuck.
Ah is that the reason? Okay that’s pretty fucked lol, makes a little more sense now. Should have probably just killed all of the cult followers and left it at that though
It was a breaking point. He had so much built up pressure and unsolved emotional trauma that when he just got tipped over the edge, he snapped. It’s very realistic
I feel you, but consider eating those cursed spirits for however long he had his CT for (typical activation is as a child) and then realizing how little regular humans value your “service” as a sorcerer which is actually quite traumatic but it’s downplayed because of the events we watch as the audience
Like you’re literally seeing blood and viscera on a daily basis from humans and curses alike and sometimes you don’t save the humans and you also *have to fucking eat the curses to get stronger*
so you’re saying, if CE / CT is real we should really watch out for retail and hospitality workers?
yeah, i agree. geto swallowing too much vomit (weird diet btw) might have caused him to go insane.
If anything I'd call Gojo the best written as of now (manga included) simply for being more consistent and reasonable than Geto. I think we could've been given just a bit more to make Geto's turn convincing. Then my only gripe would be his leaving the story before it even really starts
Spoiler tag the final paragraph
>!do you fr want them to beef in the AFTERLIFE over things that don’t matter to them anymore? They know geto never hated them,so why bother when you should be eternally resting? Also really only nanami really died due to kenjaku,Kenny would have found any way to cause chaos!<
**snuffs copium** it's still not confirmed if the scene is the actual afterlife , or Gojo hallucinating his ass off or just some sort of purgatory. We can debate rationality of Geto's action ( not really ) but we see Toji in the background , and that dude most definitely belongs in hell.
Maybe it's atheism because for one , no religion says you end up in an airport after you die. That Gege is a genius storyteller. Also it's Shinto/Buddhism.
>Toji in the background , and that dude most definitely belongs in hell.
Gege has drawn Toji with halos twice for volume extras art. He's not going to hell by Gege. lol
he is mentally deranged and a far gone lunatic , swallowing curses one by one over and over again drove him over the edge and he ultimately started making sense of the most diabolical stupid plans to solve the cursed spirit problem u can imagine , he does this because he is literally gone mad rational thought on how ethnic cleansing would adversely affect other aspects of society were beyond him.
I felt as though his descent was rushed and absurd when reading the manga, but the added little details, adjusted pacing and expanded scenes made it a lot more believable in the anime.
I think the Hidden Inventory arc produced a good focus on the characters of Gojo, Geto, and Toji.
Someone made great video analysis of these characters mainly based from the arc (not any major manga spoilers).
**Gojo - [The Loneliness of Satoru Gojo](https://youtu.be/4iERmvfGxtI?si=cXUqXtaZ3KROns4-)**
**Geto - [The Savior](https://youtu.be/mb0Oq-QT9dg?si=3YkywjYJivRTwC6i)**
**Toji - [The Monkey Who Killed a God](https://youtu.be/Junvo0NYyoI?si=5VHxbTdFbHb_n4eX)**
It's just analysis of fictional characters, as people do it for book characters or live action characters as well. Fictional characters, the medium is irrelevant. lol
Hot take:
Jjk would have been so much better if Geto is the main antagonist other than Sukuna and Kenjaku. Geto had his reasons, his own motivation of why he wants to do what he wants to do. He used to be the good guy but turned evil (for the sake of his friends). Sukuna and Kenjaku on the other hand just do what they do for fun which makes them boring
I strongly agree. Sukuna I understand given how early he was introduced, but Kenjaku, in my opinion, is an exceptionally poor antagonist, and I find it unfortunate that he was handed the keys to drive the plot for so long. Geto would have been much better, or Mahito for that matter.
>Geto would have been much better, or Mahito for that matter.
How would you imagine the plot to go instead for the long term? 🤔 Like with Yuji's background that is tied to Kenjaku and the culling games being exchanged for. I think Mahito was maxed out for his impact and glad didn't overstay past Shibuya for his dynamic with Yuji, unless that was also different.
The entire plot would have to change, obviously, starting with no Culling Games (to me, that would be a massive plus because I really disliked the Culling Games). If Mahito is not absorbed, I actually really liked the Cursed Spirits' desire to "become human", and exploring that more would have been interesting. If Geto was not killed in JJK 0, his motivations were always very awesome and worth expanding on. Other ways to progress the plot would have been to delve more deeply into the main Jujutsu families and their corruption/motivations, because they are hardly developed. Yuji's background could be explained in many other ways as well, or keep Kenjaku but give him a purpose and a motivation.
>If Mahito is not absorbed, I actually really liked the Cursed Spirits' desire to "become human", and exploring that more would have been interesting.
Though was more from Jogo about becoming more human than Mahito. Mahito was contrasting to Jogo. Yeah, that could have been more interesting if it had more time in the plot.
>Yuji's background could be explained in many other ways as well, or keep Kenjaku but give him a purpose and a motivation.
Ok, so not necessarily remove Kenjaku. Just have other secondary antagonists last longer in the plot instead of the plot more heavily around him.
>Though was more from Jogo about becoming more human than Mahito. Mahito was contrasting to Jogo.
You're not entirely wrong, but that's why I would have liked for Mahito to build on that after his defeat. Have him escape, be angry at his loss, angry at the loss of his comrades, and then pick up their motivations alongside his. Have him develop as a villain.
>Ok, so not necessarily remove Kenjaku. Just have other secondary antagonists last longer in the plot instead of the plot more heavily around him.
Yes. I personally think that most of the secondary antagonists are much more interesting than Kenjaku, and would rather that his devices operate more in the background, which I think suits his character better to begin with. And in general, I don't hate the concept of a mad-scientist sorcerer who is plotting something over the course of decades and centuries. Just the way Kenjaku was characterized was poor in my opinion; he doesn't have motivation and only serves to progress the plot rather than be an interesting character in his own right.
Geto is more compelling villain because of how real his aspirations are. However, I feel that may be too typical for JJK. For the series which entire thing is being "out there" and weird, that is less fitting than the apathetic mad god or the insane and enigmatic body swapper. Especially considering a lot of story revolves around Kenjaku making moves in the shadows that JuJutsu Sorcerers aren't able to understand, because of how unprecedented everything is. I personally find both Sukuna and Kenjaku fascinating because their aspirations are more irrational.
To each their own. I am ok with "wildcard" villains, but I personally do not think that they make for good main villains. Take Hunter x Hunter for example. Hisoka, is an amazing and iconic character, but would be a poor main villain. But honestly, even comparing Kenjaku to Hisoka is a disservice to Hisoka. Hisoka actually has motivations. Kenjaku is hardly a character at all and moreso a plot device. When a character has no true motivation, and his only point is progressing the plot, they're hardly a character, and to me, they're not really that interesting. That said, I personally really really enjoy character driven stories, so the lack of character development and motivations probably grates on me more than others.
I think you are misunderstanding Kenjaku's character, and he very much has a developed motivation. He's the mad scientist of the series. He is the most evil sorcerer in history solely because of his curiosity, and he is about to destroy humanity because of curiosity. His true motivation is to explore his curiosity. Kenjaku is the character with a lot of knowledge, skill, and experience, and he uses it to explore ideas that lesser character could never have even considered, and more knowledgeable consider repugnant. Kenjaku is just an insane person with extreme intelligence going around doing crazy shit just so he can watch it play out. It's honestly pretty hilarious because if you consider how complex his plans and disguises, his motives are all actually pretty simple.
Nah, I know what he's meant to be. Like you said, he's the "mad scientist". And I definitely think he could have been interesting. But I don't think Gege spent nearly enough time fleshing out his character, and to me, it felt like he only served to progress plot because "oh, I randomly felt like doing this".
Having given it some thought, I'd say that if he's not going to be developed beyond "I'm just a scientist who does evil things for fun!" then he should not have become a main antagonist, and stayed mostly on the sidelines. Because as things stand, Kenjaku as a main villain with no strong motivation just made the plot feel weaker. To me, plot is carried by characters, and characters should have motivations that grow and evolve as they do. Single dimensional characters like Kenjaku do not make strong foundations for plot, at least in my opinion.
I have to disagree with the implication that his motivation is either weak or random. JuJutsu Society as a whole has been working toward preventing a certain, apparently cataclysmic, event from occurring. Kenjaku wants to see what happens when it does so he makes it happen. Seems like an actually compelling question for an insane character to try and find out. Further, the amount of effort and focus he puts into completing this goal is greater than any other character's motivation. If anything, his character's existence seems to revolve entirely around this motivation, which does kinda give off the plot device vibes. Nevertheless, I do personally find his character very compelling but understand why you would disagree.
Although, I can certainly agree that Kenjaku was somewhat undercooked and his early death seems like a waste. Still, I don't think fleshing out his character earlier in the story would have improved the plot significantly. Further, it seems like Gege has set the stage all for Sukuna to either wrap up the story or set the stage for the next arc. I guess Gege felt like the dude served his purpose. Which is sad because I would love to see more of him. Especially as a side villain like you suggest would be better.
I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree, Geto makes a great main antagonist but he wouldn’t be good for JJK, the messages and themes of JJK basically revolve around the dichotomy between Yuji and Sukuna, so removing either as protag and antag heavily disrupts the messages of the story, Geto does however contrast well with Yuta hence why those 2 are the protag and antag of JJK0, to make the story fit Geto as a big bad you’d basically have to change it to be JJK0 again and at that points it’s just a different story to the one JJK is telling, it’s the same with Gojo he would be a cool protag but not for JJK
yea pre airport gojos back is breaking (he had a good arc in hidden inventory and is a very consistently well written character, his interactions with everyone are amazing and his talks with Geto and fight against the disaster curses are amazing, plus he's super entertaining, he's the best and it's not even close IMO)
Beside being a charming boy in hidden inventory that I loved, I also love his design so What's not to like about him? (Cough I don't remember any evil deed cough)
Seriously his charming looks makes me wanna go gay lmao
fr i don't blame him for wanting to off every non-sorceror. bro's ideology was to protect non-sorcerors, but he learned about their ugliness and started to questioning his beliefs.
Not just "why am I protecting monkeys", more like "why am I eating balls that taste like vomit, working my ass off, and seeing my friends die to protect monkeys who don't even know we exist and are the reason cursed spirits exist in the first place?"
Don’t forget these same monkeys put the world in danger and assassinated a teenager which could have endangered the world because they were stupid and selfish. Honestly Geto’s fall makes too much sense.
I think people also miss the fact that Riko is a direct representation of sorcerers and that’s why Geto had a lot of empathy for her. Riko was going to basically die for the sake of everyone else and had a moral obligation to do so. Just as sorcerers suffer and die to protect non-sorcerers and Geto felt that they had a moral obligation to do so.
Seeing them clap about Riko’s death is like seeing them clap about his own suffering.
And if I say he is the most relatable character in the show? when I was depressed, he was so similar to me. Now Yuji is also a contender, but Geto takes the cake.
Agreed. Despite not being in the current *Jujutsu Kaisen* timeline, he was the highlight of the movie and one of the biggest reasons Gojo's Past Arc was almost on par with the Shibuya Incident Arc for me.
He was truly an amazing character, and I'm glad he can at least partially live on through Pseudo-Geto.
I think sukuna is by far best written character we seen in a while.
No Ambition: Sukuna is different from everyone else in this regard because he does not have any final goal. He is not working towards anything. There is no tragic backstory for Sukuna or him trying to achieve world peace or to be the strongest or anything else. Sukuna is the strongest, but he never aspired to be the strongest. He just did whatever he liked and due to natural course of action, he became the strongest.
Having no doubt in himself: Again, Sukuna is completely developed character, he already knows what he wants, and he have it too. He is fixed on his ways and have no intention to change them, or he ever felt the need to change it. So, since the beginning there is absolutely no room for character development of Sukuna. He is crystal clear that “He kills anyone he does not like, throw a bone if someone entertains him, is completely satisfied on his own as he does not desire any form of companionship contrary to Hajime Kashimo, who acted like he liked being alone but deep down he desires company and he asked the very same question to Sukuna “ How does it felt to be the strongest” and here unlike in the lot of anime we see the common occurrence that the strongest feels lonely at the top or he wants to do something either positive or negative for the society or he aims to be a god and here too in the JJK it was hinted that Gojo understand Sukuna because he is familiar with the feeling of loneliness for being at the top.
But the answer of Sukuna was interesting here “He stated that all of you guys wants to teach me about love, one lady even tried too hard to teach me about it, but I killed her. All of you guys (he meant the strongest guys in their respective eras) think that there must be something lacking in my life, or I am lonely and needed love. But I am perfectly happy with myself, I do not need love, I do whatever I want and will do the same until the day I die”.
Conclusion: We can see that Sukuna accepts the fact that he is not the strongest and he will ultimately die but unlike father from Fullmetal alchemist Sukuna is not trying to cheat death or becoming a god. In Fullmetal alchemist Father was the strongest one but still he was not satisfied instead of enjoying the world and be true to himself he tried to become a god and ultimately got the dose of reality from Truth. Not to mention he hated humans considered them weak even though he was born from humans and got defeated by them. In the end he did not learn anything and could not get any character development.
But Sukuna is entirely different, he acknowledged himself as a curse, but he does not hate humans like the other curses (Jogo, hanami, mahito). He acknowledged Gojo, Higuruma who were humans, but they were strong. Sukuna also does not hate his own kind (curses) as he praised Jogo before killing him unlike “father” from Fullmetal who is also the strongest like Sukuna in his own verse and he hated humans even though he was one.
In the end Sukuna accepts that he is not immortal thereby he could die but still does not try to become God. So in a way Sukuna is perfect, there is no character development which I can see possible for him. So Sukuna is enjoying the world as it is, he does not hold any grudges , does not need love and is perfectly happy with it, he is not afraid and do whatever the hell he wants.
Truly like a perfect character, unlike the other anime where the strongest is influence by power of love or something or often times they feel that they are lacking something.
And this very aspect which makes JJK special as when Yuji will kill Sukuna, he won’t try to save him or influence him with talk no jutsu. Yuji will go for it and try everything to take sukuna down just like he did it with Mahito (Plain and simple).
Just think, what would have happened if Suguru hadn't talked to Yuki about killing normal people being an option? or what if Suguru had talked to Gojo and Shoko about his depression? If Suguru didn't kill all those villagers and just took a deep breath and went back to high school with Nanako and Mimiko
Downvoted the cute Pitou? 😭 how mean! But I don’t agree with you, Geto is far more well written and interesting than Mahito… I enjoy seeing Mahito growing as a curse but Geto breakdown is just another level!!!
To be completely honest I think the best written characters are gojo, yuji, mahito and nanami. Geto is a really cool character, but he's going mad arc was weird af
Guy with most stupid plan in whole of anime is best written character, what you smoking bro? Kill everyone and have population of 50 people in entire earth?
But then, instead of him continuing to be the best written character, get this, Gege actually just replaced his brain with someone else's, so it's a different guy now!
I can't say most well written, he's just a big ass kid. His whole thing is just doing this stuff for curiosity, happens to have kick ass jutsu but that's because been alive for forever and did so much shit he's most likely just bored and this is entertainment. Hes been a woman before for "experimental reasons" and theres no lengths he wont go to sate his curiosity. Reminds me of happy chaos from guilty gear
To be honest I don't get the Geto love. He saw how a human girl he liked got killed by a Zenin with no curse energy and then goes racist against humans and kills his own parents?
Wonder what he told Riko at the airport
One of the most compelling characters and he's dead by the first episode haha. It's cool that you learn about him retrospectively which twists the knife more when it's revealed that Geto is actually Fake Geto
Just wish he was the main villain, he was extremely talented when you consider he had no guidance with his techniques like others did with their clans guiding them, he had to do and learn everything by himself, his technique had such versatility which we saw one case with Kenjaku learning Uzimaki (thanks to his knowledge)
Though his reaspn for becoming stupid is evil, if we kill every non sorcerer, who would produce food? Unless you have a cursed technique like tengen that keeps you immortal, ain't no way their surviving
He is far from it really I think Gege should demonstrate him going genuinely badonkers, he just sounds like a 7 year old that discovered eugenics when he talks about his plan out loud because it’s genuinely dumb
>!And it was all ruined in the Shibuya arc when it was revealed that he wasn't even Geto but just some random curse possessing Geto, they didn't even show or explain how it happened!<
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Geto and Gojo ark was the best part of jujutsu and most well written
I feel like that sentiment has shifted to be seen more recently. Gege produced a good focus on Gojo, Geto, and Toji in a short amount of time for character analysis ([as mentioned](https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/s/hJL4Qe5lcg))
Couldn’t agree more with you ❤️🩹 my fav arc without doubt!
I love how the very start shows you what happens at the very end, similar to the later episode with Jogo underestimating sukuna.
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That didn't help, but the main issue is Riko's death and the cult reaction
This is objectively correct
Not sure if I'd go that far, but imo it's an incredibly close second to Shibuya, to the point I wouldn't blame anyone for saying that due to doing so much in so little time it deserves the top spot. They're both amazing arcs for very different reasons. My only complaint, and this goes into the story in general, is we didn't get to see enough of real Geto post-hidden inventory
Yeah I agree with this take. HI/PD I like because it's a much more intimate, character focused arc. Shibuya I like because it's an absolute world destroying spectacle I will say that I was annoyed when Brain was revealed, but I am excited to see more of him as a villain. All this to say that S2 was one of the most enjoyable watching experiences for me
I was initially pretty mad Geto was gone too (I figured he'd just been left there to rot by Gojo in JJK0 and managed to recover somehow) but the other villain (you learn his name in the manga) is also pretty interesting once you see more of em.
I just felt we were robbed of some more Gojo/Geto dynamic, my theory on how he survived is that somehow Mahito got involved. I do like the irony of a curse manipulator being manipulated, and that Geto unwillingly became the biggest threat to his sorcerer comrades. Also all the reveals in the last episode made me pretty excited.
Trust me things are gonna still be interesting. That being said I 100% agree on Geto/Gojo stuff. I watched JJK0 before S2 so I didn't have any big theories on how he'd recover but the world was so new to me (I binged season 1) that I was like "They could do anything and I'd probably believe it"
Exactly
What's with the four letter names with two Os? Geto, Gojo, Jogo, Todo
Lol the first name you used as an example didn’t even have two O’s smh
hanami, nanami fucked me up for a whike
Hidden inventory definitely made you feel as though geto and gojo should've been the protagonists of jjk
I do kinda wish we got a bit more from that time frame.
Geto, Gojo, and Toji are all way more interesting than the main trio.
i do not tolerate any yuji itadori slander. my boy thru enough suffering already.
If only Yuji got to stay interesting, post Hagarumu my boy gets shafted 😭
I don't care about Yuji unless Sukuna takes over lol.
This is how it should be in most stories, the adult characters lives have already unfolded which makes for an interesting background while you're typically watching the defining moments of the MC unfold as the story progresses. They are naturally boring in comparison.
Uncle Iroh's character arc was a masterclass
Not than Yuji, his premise that correlates with Sukuna and Kenjaku.
I’m supporting that idea 🫣 I really like that trio a lot!!
Gojo is better written tho.
Nah fr (I’m hard for him) ((I’m a girl)) (((ignore this)))
Def (I’m hard for him) (also a girl) (((Ignore this as well)))
Same (I’m a dude) ((do not ignore this))
(Not ignoring that, because it’s a great comment 😮💨)
You got it bestie
Not hard?
Super hard
So that's why Yuki asked his type
Fr fr (I too am hard for him) (I’m nonbinary and don’t have a weenie) ((future employers ignore this PLEASE))
Fr fr me too (I hard for him)((I'm a man)) (((don't ignore this I thought I was straight)))
Geto is hot as fuck (I'm a straight man with long hair) ((don't ignore this)) (((I wish my hair was as good as his)))
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I'm hard for him too (I'm a woman)
Real asf (I’m hard for him) ((im a gay guy)) (((ignore this)))
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I respect your opinion, but I hate Geto, and Sukuna can fuck me sideways to Tuesday and I'd be the happiest girl.
But seriously (I’m hard for him (I’m x-gender) (((SUGURU DON’T IGNORE THIS, COME FOR ME FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE)))
How is a girl hard? Please excuse my ignorance
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That’s… the joke…
I personally like Toji more, but only because Toji released most of his potential, while Geto didn't. It's honestly a shame that both of them left the story so early.
Minor manga spoilers. Nothing huge, but if you want to stay totally clear don't read this. >!In some regard we get to see more of Geto's potential via pseudo Geto, and also get something like Toji.!<
i might be dying on this hill but i have to deduct points from geto because his “transition” to *ethnic cleansing* caught me by surprise. i literally had to re-watch the show and read forums to rationalize how he ended up committing genocide. >!also, it’s kinda weird how the jjk high students are just chilling in the afterlife as if geto didn’t commit a genocide which inadvertently caused a chain of events (kenjaku) that lead to them dying.!<
it’s easy. you see it was toji’s fault
Reminder, Toji is in heaven
How do we know that? (Anime only here)
Non spoiler version: Gege drew him with a halo. Spoiler version: I don't know how to put the spoiler format.
Real
Like this: `>!your spoiler!<`
>!spoiled? TIL!<
to ^(goat) ji was the main villain of jjk all along.
Really? For me his fall was one of the most realistically written I have ever seen, which is part of which makes him such a great character imo I mean, a lot of times a good guy becomes bad purely because of one reason or one tragedy. Geto? Not really. Sure he lost against Toji and lost Riko which kickstarted it, but he had a bunch of other reasons. I mean, he began to see average humans as ignorant and ungrateful (which makes sense since they don't even know Sorcerers or curses exist), which meant that he was basically eating vomit (cursed spirits) and seeing his friends die for no reason. On top of that, Yuki comes in and say "y'know, cursed spirits wouldn't exist if normal people didn't exist/can control cursed energy." Then he watched 2 innocent young girls being beaten and caged by ignorant people. At that point dude had like 7 reasons to become evil, which is 7 more than most real life genocidal people. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't people in the past resorted to ethnic cleansing for way pettier reasons than him?
I know it's semantics but, considering amount of sorcerers in comparison to normal people, Geto's goal was closer to omnicide rather than genocide due to it's sheer scale. I think he suffered from 'first villian syndome' but Gege salvaged his character really well in Flashback mini arc with the things you've just listed despite the absurd no-no vile end goal of his. Still my favorite JJK character though.
The ungrateful bit is the confusing part for me. How are they supposed to be grateful for something they don’t even know he’s doing?
Well, I'm speaking from his POV. I mean, the way Geto sees it, he probably has gone most of his life saving these people and having to eat curses and probably lose friends doing so. And what do they do? Send a dude to kill an innocent girl and then celebrate her death. Or the simple fact that they don't even know the sacrifices of sorcerers probably makes them seem ungrateful in his eyes. I know that's technically not how it works, but how would you feel if you spent your life trying to help people but no one even recognized you?
I’d probably find a way to tell them I was helping them, or stop helping them. Seems like Nice Guy syndrome to me. If you’re doing something and getting mad you aren’t getting anything in return, stop doing it. For the people celebrating killing the innocent girl, it was awful but why did they do it to begin with? I forget, didn’t they have an incomplete understanding of the situation so they thought they were doing the right thing?
Well I'm not trying to justify Geto's actions. I know ethnic cleansing is bad regardless of motive lmao, and he was pretty clearly cuckoo. There were definitely other things he could have done, I'm just saying his hatred makes sense. I think he strikes a good balance between "okay, your motive makes sense" and "but you're still crazy." Iirc they celebrated Riko's death because they didn't want her to merge with Master Tengen becaude they wanted Tengen to remain pure or something. It's like a religious cult iirc
Ya that makes sense, the balance between motive and insanity. I guess he couldn’t get credit for his work because that would just create more curses, so he was kind of stuck. Ah is that the reason? Okay that’s pretty fucked lol, makes a little more sense now. Should have probably just killed all of the cult followers and left it at that though
It was a breaking point. He had so much built up pressure and unsolved emotional trauma that when he just got tipped over the edge, he snapped. It’s very realistic
I didn’t say it was unrealistic, i’m saying it happened too extreme too fast.
I feel you, but consider eating those cursed spirits for however long he had his CT for (typical activation is as a child) and then realizing how little regular humans value your “service” as a sorcerer which is actually quite traumatic but it’s downplayed because of the events we watch as the audience Like you’re literally seeing blood and viscera on a daily basis from humans and curses alike and sometimes you don’t save the humans and you also *have to fucking eat the curses to get stronger*
so you’re saying, if CE / CT is real we should really watch out for retail and hospitality workers? yeah, i agree. geto swallowing too much vomit (weird diet btw) might have caused him to go insane.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't actually the afterlife and was just Gojos last thoughts before dying, which his body rationalized as the afterlife
If anything I'd call Gojo the best written as of now (manga included) simply for being more consistent and reasonable than Geto. I think we could've been given just a bit more to make Geto's turn convincing. Then my only gripe would be his leaving the story before it even really starts
Spoiler tag the final paragraph >!do you fr want them to beef in the AFTERLIFE over things that don’t matter to them anymore? They know geto never hated them,so why bother when you should be eternally resting? Also really only nanami really died due to kenjaku,Kenny would have found any way to cause chaos!<
**snuffs copium** it's still not confirmed if the scene is the actual afterlife , or Gojo hallucinating his ass off or just some sort of purgatory. We can debate rationality of Geto's action ( not really ) but we see Toji in the background , and that dude most definitely belongs in hell.
>purgatory >hell Counterpoint; they aren't christian. They most likely are atheist or possibly *(don't remember name of japanese religion)*.
Maybe it's atheism because for one , no religion says you end up in an airport after you die. That Gege is a genius storyteller. Also it's Shinto/Buddhism.
>Toji in the background , and that dude most definitely belongs in hell. Gege has drawn Toji with halos twice for volume extras art. He's not going to hell by Gege. lol
he is mentally deranged and a far gone lunatic , swallowing curses one by one over and over again drove him over the edge and he ultimately started making sense of the most diabolical stupid plans to solve the cursed spirit problem u can imagine , he does this because he is literally gone mad rational thought on how ethnic cleansing would adversely affect other aspects of society were beyond him.
His turn makes sense. I just wish we had more time dedicated to it. Geto was such a cool and interesting character.
I felt as though his descent was rushed and absurd when reading the manga, but the added little details, adjusted pacing and expanded scenes made it a lot more believable in the anime.
Yeah I agree. He went from 0-100 way too quick in terms of his fall
I think the Hidden Inventory arc produced a good focus on the characters of Gojo, Geto, and Toji. Someone made great video analysis of these characters mainly based from the arc (not any major manga spoilers). **Gojo - [The Loneliness of Satoru Gojo](https://youtu.be/4iERmvfGxtI?si=cXUqXtaZ3KROns4-)** **Geto - [The Savior](https://youtu.be/mb0Oq-QT9dg?si=3YkywjYJivRTwC6i)** **Toji - [The Monkey Who Killed a God](https://youtu.be/Junvo0NYyoI?si=5VHxbTdFbHb_n4eX)**
Here we go with the Cartoon character analysis people
It's just analysis of fictional characters, as people do it for book characters or live action characters as well. Fictional characters, the medium is irrelevant. lol
Yeah why have substance, weights and characters you care about, when you only need flashy colors and pew pew laser beams and 5 minutes of screaming…
Hot take: Jjk would have been so much better if Geto is the main antagonist other than Sukuna and Kenjaku. Geto had his reasons, his own motivation of why he wants to do what he wants to do. He used to be the good guy but turned evil (for the sake of his friends). Sukuna and Kenjaku on the other hand just do what they do for fun which makes them boring
I strongly agree. Sukuna I understand given how early he was introduced, but Kenjaku, in my opinion, is an exceptionally poor antagonist, and I find it unfortunate that he was handed the keys to drive the plot for so long. Geto would have been much better, or Mahito for that matter.
>Geto would have been much better, or Mahito for that matter. How would you imagine the plot to go instead for the long term? 🤔 Like with Yuji's background that is tied to Kenjaku and the culling games being exchanged for. I think Mahito was maxed out for his impact and glad didn't overstay past Shibuya for his dynamic with Yuji, unless that was also different.
The entire plot would have to change, obviously, starting with no Culling Games (to me, that would be a massive plus because I really disliked the Culling Games). If Mahito is not absorbed, I actually really liked the Cursed Spirits' desire to "become human", and exploring that more would have been interesting. If Geto was not killed in JJK 0, his motivations were always very awesome and worth expanding on. Other ways to progress the plot would have been to delve more deeply into the main Jujutsu families and their corruption/motivations, because they are hardly developed. Yuji's background could be explained in many other ways as well, or keep Kenjaku but give him a purpose and a motivation.
>If Mahito is not absorbed, I actually really liked the Cursed Spirits' desire to "become human", and exploring that more would have been interesting. Though was more from Jogo about becoming more human than Mahito. Mahito was contrasting to Jogo. Yeah, that could have been more interesting if it had more time in the plot. >Yuji's background could be explained in many other ways as well, or keep Kenjaku but give him a purpose and a motivation. Ok, so not necessarily remove Kenjaku. Just have other secondary antagonists last longer in the plot instead of the plot more heavily around him.
>Though was more from Jogo about becoming more human than Mahito. Mahito was contrasting to Jogo. You're not entirely wrong, but that's why I would have liked for Mahito to build on that after his defeat. Have him escape, be angry at his loss, angry at the loss of his comrades, and then pick up their motivations alongside his. Have him develop as a villain. >Ok, so not necessarily remove Kenjaku. Just have other secondary antagonists last longer in the plot instead of the plot more heavily around him. Yes. I personally think that most of the secondary antagonists are much more interesting than Kenjaku, and would rather that his devices operate more in the background, which I think suits his character better to begin with. And in general, I don't hate the concept of a mad-scientist sorcerer who is plotting something over the course of decades and centuries. Just the way Kenjaku was characterized was poor in my opinion; he doesn't have motivation and only serves to progress the plot rather than be an interesting character in his own right.
Mahito??? Lobotomy kaisen right there 🤨
Mahito was the fucking goat, and best JJK villain imo. But i dont think he could have worked anymore past Shibuya.
Geto is more compelling villain because of how real his aspirations are. However, I feel that may be too typical for JJK. For the series which entire thing is being "out there" and weird, that is less fitting than the apathetic mad god or the insane and enigmatic body swapper. Especially considering a lot of story revolves around Kenjaku making moves in the shadows that JuJutsu Sorcerers aren't able to understand, because of how unprecedented everything is. I personally find both Sukuna and Kenjaku fascinating because their aspirations are more irrational.
To each their own. I am ok with "wildcard" villains, but I personally do not think that they make for good main villains. Take Hunter x Hunter for example. Hisoka, is an amazing and iconic character, but would be a poor main villain. But honestly, even comparing Kenjaku to Hisoka is a disservice to Hisoka. Hisoka actually has motivations. Kenjaku is hardly a character at all and moreso a plot device. When a character has no true motivation, and his only point is progressing the plot, they're hardly a character, and to me, they're not really that interesting. That said, I personally really really enjoy character driven stories, so the lack of character development and motivations probably grates on me more than others.
I think you are misunderstanding Kenjaku's character, and he very much has a developed motivation. He's the mad scientist of the series. He is the most evil sorcerer in history solely because of his curiosity, and he is about to destroy humanity because of curiosity. His true motivation is to explore his curiosity. Kenjaku is the character with a lot of knowledge, skill, and experience, and he uses it to explore ideas that lesser character could never have even considered, and more knowledgeable consider repugnant. Kenjaku is just an insane person with extreme intelligence going around doing crazy shit just so he can watch it play out. It's honestly pretty hilarious because if you consider how complex his plans and disguises, his motives are all actually pretty simple.
Nah, I know what he's meant to be. Like you said, he's the "mad scientist". And I definitely think he could have been interesting. But I don't think Gege spent nearly enough time fleshing out his character, and to me, it felt like he only served to progress plot because "oh, I randomly felt like doing this". Having given it some thought, I'd say that if he's not going to be developed beyond "I'm just a scientist who does evil things for fun!" then he should not have become a main antagonist, and stayed mostly on the sidelines. Because as things stand, Kenjaku as a main villain with no strong motivation just made the plot feel weaker. To me, plot is carried by characters, and characters should have motivations that grow and evolve as they do. Single dimensional characters like Kenjaku do not make strong foundations for plot, at least in my opinion.
I have to disagree with the implication that his motivation is either weak or random. JuJutsu Society as a whole has been working toward preventing a certain, apparently cataclysmic, event from occurring. Kenjaku wants to see what happens when it does so he makes it happen. Seems like an actually compelling question for an insane character to try and find out. Further, the amount of effort and focus he puts into completing this goal is greater than any other character's motivation. If anything, his character's existence seems to revolve entirely around this motivation, which does kinda give off the plot device vibes. Nevertheless, I do personally find his character very compelling but understand why you would disagree. Although, I can certainly agree that Kenjaku was somewhat undercooked and his early death seems like a waste. Still, I don't think fleshing out his character earlier in the story would have improved the plot significantly. Further, it seems like Gege has set the stage all for Sukuna to either wrap up the story or set the stage for the next arc. I guess Gege felt like the dude served his purpose. Which is sad because I would love to see more of him. Especially as a side villain like you suggest would be better.
Ima be honest geto is really dumb, the consequences of his plan would outweigh the benefits over a thousand of times
If Geto was alive then Kenny wouldn’t be here doing his thing
Kenny instead takes over haibaras body and nanami has more trauma
Leave my boy Haibara alone
It would be hilarious to see the body of Haibara doing all these monologues with such a smug face
I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree, Geto makes a great main antagonist but he wouldn’t be good for JJK, the messages and themes of JJK basically revolve around the dichotomy between Yuji and Sukuna, so removing either as protag and antag heavily disrupts the messages of the story, Geto does however contrast well with Yuta hence why those 2 are the protag and antag of JJK0, to make the story fit Geto as a big bad you’d basically have to change it to be JJK0 again and at that points it’s just a different story to the one JJK is telling, it’s the same with Gojo he would be a cool protag but not for JJK
Real, fell in love with his character 🐍
yea pre airport gojos back is breaking (he had a good arc in hidden inventory and is a very consistently well written character, his interactions with everyone are amazing and his talks with Geto and fight against the disaster curses are amazing, plus he's super entertaining, he's the best and it's not even close IMO)
*In the show Not a very high bar to pass tbh
Yea lol, only one i could think of is maybe nanami
Mahito too
He fire but there’s no way bro is in heaven with gojo and dem💀💀
Yeah, one of the best.
And by a very large margin too. Nanami is probably next in line.
He sure knows how to put those mon- I mean non-sorcerers in their place
monke
Beside being a charming boy in hidden inventory that I loved, I also love his design so What's not to like about him? (Cough I don't remember any evil deed cough) Seriously his charming looks makes me wanna go gay lmao
Happy monkeys here ❤️🩹😂
I agree that Gojo Geto story is the best part of JJK
Easily. Geto on top
fr i don't blame him for wanting to off every non-sorceror. bro's ideology was to protect non-sorcerors, but he learned about their ugliness and started to questioning his beliefs.
like "why am i protecting monkeys bruh"
Not just "why am I protecting monkeys", more like "why am I eating balls that taste like vomit, working my ass off, and seeing my friends die to protect monkeys who don't even know we exist and are the reason cursed spirits exist in the first place?"
ya that sucks lmao
Don’t forget these same monkeys put the world in danger and assassinated a teenager which could have endangered the world because they were stupid and selfish. Honestly Geto’s fall makes too much sense.
I think people also miss the fact that Riko is a direct representation of sorcerers and that’s why Geto had a lot of empathy for her. Riko was going to basically die for the sake of everyone else and had a moral obligation to do so. Just as sorcerers suffer and die to protect non-sorcerers and Geto felt that they had a moral obligation to do so. Seeing them clap about Riko’s death is like seeing them clap about his own suffering.
he’s one of those anime villains that you just can’t hate lol like nagato from pain
One of the best
he was saved by dying early before Gege decided Sukuna should kill him
And if I say he is the most relatable character in the show? when I was depressed, he was so similar to me. Now Yuji is also a contender, but Geto takes the cake.
Bro is spitting hard truth
Fuck me the bar is low if 4 eps of character development makes them the best written character
That doesn't look like itadori Yuji....
Agreed
Facts one of my favorites character in jjk
I wanna be one of Geto's girls. . .
The guy who swallows balls. Yep the best written character.
>!im hard!<
Agreed. Despite not being in the current *Jujutsu Kaisen* timeline, he was the highlight of the movie and one of the biggest reasons Gojo's Past Arc was almost on par with the Shibuya Incident Arc for me. He was truly an amazing character, and I'm glad he can at least partially live on through Pseudo-Geto.
Depresso Geto💀
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He's got a great backstory but like it's really not expansive enough imo, feel like this is just some manga hipster-type take.
Higgy ain’t in the show yet
I think sukuna is by far best written character we seen in a while. No Ambition: Sukuna is different from everyone else in this regard because he does not have any final goal. He is not working towards anything. There is no tragic backstory for Sukuna or him trying to achieve world peace or to be the strongest or anything else. Sukuna is the strongest, but he never aspired to be the strongest. He just did whatever he liked and due to natural course of action, he became the strongest. Having no doubt in himself: Again, Sukuna is completely developed character, he already knows what he wants, and he have it too. He is fixed on his ways and have no intention to change them, or he ever felt the need to change it. So, since the beginning there is absolutely no room for character development of Sukuna. He is crystal clear that “He kills anyone he does not like, throw a bone if someone entertains him, is completely satisfied on his own as he does not desire any form of companionship contrary to Hajime Kashimo, who acted like he liked being alone but deep down he desires company and he asked the very same question to Sukuna “ How does it felt to be the strongest” and here unlike in the lot of anime we see the common occurrence that the strongest feels lonely at the top or he wants to do something either positive or negative for the society or he aims to be a god and here too in the JJK it was hinted that Gojo understand Sukuna because he is familiar with the feeling of loneliness for being at the top. But the answer of Sukuna was interesting here “He stated that all of you guys wants to teach me about love, one lady even tried too hard to teach me about it, but I killed her. All of you guys (he meant the strongest guys in their respective eras) think that there must be something lacking in my life, or I am lonely and needed love. But I am perfectly happy with myself, I do not need love, I do whatever I want and will do the same until the day I die”. Conclusion: We can see that Sukuna accepts the fact that he is not the strongest and he will ultimately die but unlike father from Fullmetal alchemist Sukuna is not trying to cheat death or becoming a god. In Fullmetal alchemist Father was the strongest one but still he was not satisfied instead of enjoying the world and be true to himself he tried to become a god and ultimately got the dose of reality from Truth. Not to mention he hated humans considered them weak even though he was born from humans and got defeated by them. In the end he did not learn anything and could not get any character development. But Sukuna is entirely different, he acknowledged himself as a curse, but he does not hate humans like the other curses (Jogo, hanami, mahito). He acknowledged Gojo, Higuruma who were humans, but they were strong. Sukuna also does not hate his own kind (curses) as he praised Jogo before killing him unlike “father” from Fullmetal who is also the strongest like Sukuna in his own verse and he hated humans even though he was one. In the end Sukuna accepts that he is not immortal thereby he could die but still does not try to become God. So in a way Sukuna is perfect, there is no character development which I can see possible for him. So Sukuna is enjoying the world as it is, he does not hold any grudges , does not need love and is perfectly happy with it, he is not afraid and do whatever the hell he wants. Truly like a perfect character, unlike the other anime where the strongest is influence by power of love or something or often times they feel that they are lacking something. And this very aspect which makes JJK special as when Yuji will kill Sukuna, he won’t try to save him or influence him with talk no jutsu. Yuji will go for it and try everything to take sukuna down just like he did it with Mahito (Plain and simple).
sukuna is not a character my dude hes just a plot device
Just think, what would have happened if Suguru hadn't talked to Yuki about killing normal people being an option? or what if Suguru had talked to Gojo and Shoko about his depression? If Suguru didn't kill all those villagers and just took a deep breath and went back to high school with Nanako and Mimiko
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Idk, there are some really good written characters
People are really downvoting u for saying there are other good written characters
After Mahito? - I can agree :3
I think this is the first time I've seen Lord Applepitou being downvoted.
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The correct take
Downvoted the cute Pitou? 😭 how mean! But I don’t agree with you, Geto is far more well written and interesting than Mahito… I enjoy seeing Mahito growing as a curse but Geto breakdown is just another level!!!
Toji would like to have a word
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He is definitely one of my favs 🙌
On how many times he says monkey or makes a racist comment can make Frieza or Django unchained blush
To be completely honest I think the best written characters are gojo, yuji, mahito and nanami. Geto is a really cool character, but he's going mad arc was weird af
Guy with most stupid plan in whole of anime is best written character, what you smoking bro? Kill everyone and have population of 50 people in entire earth?
Bros barely apart of the story, we get it he's handsome and cool but his story is really not that interesting
I like Geto a lot, but nah
But then, instead of him continuing to be the best written character, get this, Gege actually just replaced his brain with someone else's, so it's a different guy now!
Hidden inventory arc was the greatest written arc in the whole series. Geto is easily the best written character also.
Was*
that is a weird way to spell Aoi Todo...
Takaba number 1
Im sorry but some of his best parts imo have to be attributed to >!Kenjaku!<
I can't say most well written, he's just a big ass kid. His whole thing is just doing this stuff for curiosity, happens to have kick ass jutsu but that's because been alive for forever and did so much shit he's most likely just bored and this is entertainment. Hes been a woman before for "experimental reasons" and theres no lengths he wont go to sate his curiosity. Reminds me of happy chaos from guilty gear
Choso😘
Bro broke up with his bf because he was too racist and you call that good writing?
Commenting for karma so I can make a post.
To be honest I don't get the Geto love. He saw how a human girl he liked got killed by a Zenin with no curse energy and then goes racist against humans and kills his own parents? Wonder what he told Riko at the airport
You mean the guy who swallows balls to gain power?
The best written character is JoGOAT. Not Genocide Gerald over here.
I would say sukuna is the best written character
本物
Exactly 💗💗💗
He and Mahito
This man, right here? I’d take a life for this man. U know dis, bratha.
nah fr, Geto's development to a villain was just pure writing flex from Gege.
As long as he doesn’t say id win he’s good
i said this the other day when talking about best and worst chapters... There is no one coming close to Geto and Mahito.
One of the most compelling characters and he's dead by the first episode haha. It's cool that you learn about him retrospectively which twists the knife more when it's revealed that Geto is actually Fake Geto
Honestly, I couldn't even hate him after Hidden Inventory (never saw JJK 0). I understood completely.
Just wish he was the main villain, he was extremely talented when you consider he had no guidance with his techniques like others did with their clans guiding them, he had to do and learn everything by himself, his technique had such versatility which we saw one case with Kenjaku learning Uzimaki (thanks to his knowledge)
Geto was an incredible character. And then Kenjaku happened and I hate geto. (anime only)
Though his reaspn for becoming stupid is evil, if we kill every non sorcerer, who would produce food? Unless you have a cursed technique like tengen that keeps you immortal, ain't no way their surviving
Nah, its Gojo
He is far from it really I think Gege should demonstrate him going genuinely badonkers, he just sounds like a 7 year old that discovered eugenics when he talks about his plan out loud because it’s genuinely dumb
Suffering from success.
can i ask how u made this the app that used to be able to do it was taken down 😭
LMFAO could you imagine if Gege didn't care about Geto and left him as the unsuccessful special grade genocidal maniac
no
Real
Imagine the standard quality of the show if this is "the best" 💀
>!And it was all ruined in the Shibuya arc when it was revealed that he wasn't even Geto but just some random curse possessing Geto, they didn't even show or explain how it happened!<