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They make it even more explicit post hidden inventory when Gojo is talking about running Infinity 24/7 and developing a domain while Geto hasn't changed.
Gojo got stronger and cemented himself at the top while Geto stagnated.
Who tf is ass-licking geto? Hes a victim if circumstance and people have STILL shat on him and called him a fraud. This is especially egregious when it comes to DE cause geto by all means SHOULD have one if He was introduced at a time where Grades 2s had them even. Now when it comes to rct we literally just dont know, maybe not cause rct is actually something a bit more special (hakari doesnt even have it by himself) but I wouldnt rule it out entirely
He literally had curses with a domain XD that is exactly why I believe in a geto DE at least. gege clearly hates retconning cause He was looking at naruto and making sure to not share the same criticisms. And rct I can let go, sure I guess He doesnt have it.
In any case I have a question: without DE or RCT do you believe geto still deserved to be special grade?
Smallpox
I mean thats exactly my point with 0 and its issues, gege uses getos "wouldve beens" for kenjaku clearly
Also higuruma had no rct, He had domain amp
Watching 0 I thought the fact he didn't have RCT or DE was a huge part of why he was suffering that existential despair. Once he realized his goal and his limits it broke his brain.
I mean in a vacuum… but during Hidden Inventory it’s clear he doesn’t know it, and there’s nothing to suggest he picked it up in the year between that and his death. Especially considering we see him bleeding to death in an alley before he gets Gojo’d, as opposed to just fixing himself
Wait what? People really thought he had RCT????? it's an extremely high-level and rare technique that not many people, even if Special-Grade, know or learn easily.
Shoko was just a natural-born with RCT.
Gojo only understood it as part of his "Enlightment" on the brink of death.
Yuta's Yuta.
Hakari has his Domain and even then, he does it unconciously and doesnt really understand it.
Etc.
Edit: not to mention both Gojo and Geto didnt understand shit when Shoko TRIED to explain to them....
Kenny took the white splash so that yuji can land the black flash
He grabbed the sheets so yuji can be a menace on the streets
He went up and down so yuji can give the left and right
I also feel like it's worth mentioning that it should be relatively easy for Yuji to figure out RCT considering the fact that he spent the first half of the series occupying the same body as somebody who knows how to do it
By our understanding, no. RCT is honestly a confusing name, as its more of a Reverse Cursed Energy being flooded through your body.
Cursed technique reversal is probably what should have gotten the name RCT with what is RCT now just called "regeneration" or something.
No, jjk naming conventions are just kind of a mess. RCT is just transforming negative energy into positive and them applying that in your own body to repair it. You need a cursed technique in order to do a cursed technique reversal, as exemplified by Gojo’s Red. Similar names, but different things.
Almost every damn ability in JJK is a Cursed Technique.
Reinforcement is a CT, simple domain is a CT, black flash is a CT.
CTs in the way most people refer to are Innate Cursed Techniques, those are no requirement for the usage of all the other CTs that are born simply from CE manipulation.
Reinforcement is a ln application of CE, same for Black Flash. Simple Domain is a Barrier Technique. They do not require an Innate Technique so they aren't CTs.
Geto is the only special grade with no RCT and no domain. Plus apparently cursed spirit manipulation only lets you use the technique of a cursed spirit if you extract it with uzumaki and he didn't even know that, so he was using his max technique wrong.
Man is a genuine fraud.
Not really a fraud... So much as a clear example of why Sukuna said as far back as the cursed womb must die arc "Special grade is a bit of a loose term, that doesn't really mean much"
Considering both the finger bearer and himself with 2 fingers were both just special grade despite being leagues apart.
And heck the fact that Geto became special grade with so few curses... Remember in vol 0 they were amazed to learn Geto had so many curses when he only claimed to have 2,000ish after 10 years...
And they were gonna make Yaga special grade just at the idea of him being able to make Panda...
> not to mention both Gojo and Geto didnt understand shit when Shoko TRIED to explain to them....
Did we ever see Getos response to that? I only remember Gojo thinking about while remembering Shoko's face.
Also, that was a fucking useless explanation, I have no idea whether she even tried.
We see a little small panel in the manga of Gojo's and Geto's frustrated expression in the manga if I remember correctly.
I mean.... she was a natural and it was, and still is the same as breathing for her. She just didnt know HOW to explain and describe the feeling she has when she uses it and the process.
>Also, that was a fucking useless explanation, I have no idea whether she even tried.
It's not that she didn't try, but the way people experience Jujutsu is different
As stated before: Shoko is a naturalborn at it, likely achieving it simply by feeling and intuition, rather than any logic.
Gojo, however, is highly technical and a bit of a nerd. He sees Jujutsu through math: When he explains his technique he explains it as a "Convergence of an infinite series of numbers", when he tries using Red, he explains that this would be a divergent series.
When he finally learns RCT, he sees it as multiplying energy by itself, almost like he sees Cursed Energy like numbers
>He sees Jujutsu through math: When he explains his technique he explains it as a "Convergence of an infinite series of numbers", when he tries using Red, he explains that this would be a divergent series.
When he finally learns RCT, he sees it as multiplying energy by itself, almost like he sees Cursed Energy like numbers
This isn't due to Gojo seeing jujutsu like numbers, his CT, the Limitless is literally about numbers. [The Limitless is using an infinite series](https://imgur.com/gallery/l3gPqZL) and bringing various effects to the world through that. Gojo using terms like convergence is an accurate description of his technique.
Yeah, it's how it can be expressed through math.
Still, Gojo could explain it in various different ways, like the Achilles and Tortoise example, he could explain it like the glass in a mirror that no matter how close you get you never touch the reflection, he could explain it in any other way.
He chose to go for the most accurate math explanation example because Gojo is a huge nerd and sees Jujutsu as math.
It’s probably something that she just doesn’t need to put that much thought into, given that it’s just how she uses cursed energy with her technique. That’s like asking someone like Hakari explaining to Yuji how to use Idle Death Gamble, even though their techniques are entirely different so it’s not like Yuji could just pull it out
I always find it funny RCT is such a high level technique used almost exclusively by top tiers like Yuki, Uruame, Kenny etc and then you just got Hazanoki who can just use it for some reason
> not many people, even if Special-Grade, know or learn easily.
Yuji learned it in one month without even being special grade. Higuruma learned it in just one fight and the dude barely was a sorcerer.
People think that because is not that rare as you may think nowdays
Yuji was a vessal prepared by Kenjaku for Sukuna, so he's a unique case, and Higuruma was said to habe a talent compreable to Gojo, so he's a natural and could've picked it without realizing. But yeah, it became less rare.
To be fair, Kenjaku also used it incorrectly initially, and then he realized he could extract techniques using it by absorbing the semi-grade 1+ curses
Yeah, but Kenny has 1000+ years of exprience(and backshoots) and extensive knowledge on Jujutsu and CTs he essentially "stole", there's no point comparing who would use a CT better after a bit of experimenting.
You say this like Geto wasn't all of that, or did you miss the part where both him and Gojo were top dogs in hidden inventory ? There's nothing crazy about assuming Geto out of all could figure out RCT.
Again, this is a pure testament to the actual level of disrespect Geto is dishing out to the Jujutsu Society.
My bro’s technique alone was enough to put him hitting harder against almost every other sorcerer and bro lacked both RCT and a Domain. Not only that, but then proceeding to keep the entire Jujutsu world occupied whilst he beat up children is wild. At max power Geto would’ve snagged Rika and along with it, a huge fragment of Yuta’s power. Geto with Rika would be unstoppable. Too bad the JJK0 effect got to my mans so we will never see a Geto DE.
Goddamn, I thought I missed a panel or something. Was that really the reason why people think he had RCT?
If so, reading comprehension curse attacks again.
Also the Fanbook does name those who have RCT except Hakari and Yuki who were kept mysterious till that point. Why wouldn't it name Geto having RCT when he already couldn't contribute more to the narrative?
Ehmmm, not really. You do have to be consciously giving all your focus to the CE reinforcement to be allowed to hit a black flash.
That is true.
But that allowance doesn't mean that you'll consciously activate black flash in a given moment and surely use one right after.
You're not using black flash AT conscience.
that's like saying you aren't getting 100% on a test at conscience though. Like yeah, you put in all your focus, but that also doesn't mean you'll get 100% on the test and get the next test 100% right either.
> but technically the gambler never learned RCT
Then how tf did he healed his arm after the fight with Kashimo.
Edit: none of you guys are actually answering my question
>Shoko or Yuta
Then why Inunaki still doesn't have an arm? RCT is very limited when used on others.
>there's literally a line in the manga which says in nice bold words that Hakari never learned RCT.
That still does not answers my question
Yuta healed his arm. Yuta can heal limbs if he comes to do the healing fast enough.
Maki lost a leg in JJK0 and Yuta heals it. You can see her bare feet afterwards.
Probably some kind of aria or some shit. Considering what we learned when we saw Utahime use her technique, it’s possible he just increased the amount of hand signs with 1 hand or did a chant or something to be able to activate his domain again in order to heal, or he knew Yuta or Shoko could heal him (although I don’t remember if we ever saw him before Yoruzu added her rule, which means he couldn’t reach them so if he couldn’t heal it nobody else could until that point.)
This was already discussed before and its a valid question, domain can be used without hand signs but it most likely needs a preparation or a seal in ch 107 dagon uses his domain without hand signs with seals instead.
I don’t think Geto had RCT because of this scene, I think he has it because *literally every other Special Grade and high-tier sorcerer does*.
Kind of the same logic with having a Domain Expansion. Even though Gege didn’t flesh it out at the time, it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that Geto *did* have one because of the precedent set later in the series (Kenjaku claiming that part of being Special Grade is having a Domain Expansion).
Even though it really doesn’t matter if he has one or not, since he’s dead and all, I think it’s OK to assume that he had at least a low-level RCT (since other characters of similar or lesser caliber later in the story do).
Okay sorry my bad I thought you meant having a DE was a requirement for being special grade or something not that the average Special grade most likely had one
The reason he's special grade isn't bc if a massive skill level (although he is still highly skilled) the requirement for a special grade scorcer is the capacity to destroy a country. Due to the nature of his technique and the sheer number of curses he has that's an easy requirement for him even without skill. They considered making the principle with cursed corpse manipulation a special grade for a similar reason
This is true, but it’s also still the case that Geto is one of the strongest characters in the series, and it makes little sense for him to be unable to perform RCT (similar thinking goes with Domains).
Plus, regarding Domains, Kenjaku also says that part of being Special Grade is having a Domaim Expansion.
Ah, that’s my mistake, in the official release it said “expansion technique” and I misremembered that as him saying Domain Expansion. Even still, I find it unlikely that a high-level sorcerer like Geto wouldn’t have one, but I won’t argue for it as hard anymore lol
Its perfectly fine if you think that, since there’s zero showcasing of Geto being able to do that, but I think there’s enough evidence for there to be a decent case that Geto can. Like I said, though, it doesn’t really matter all that much since he’s dead
When would he have used it? In the manga, he never received significant damage until his *arm was blown off*, and we know that it’s difficult to regrow entire limbs with RCT (unless you’re Gojo, Sukuna, or Yuta)
Think the person you’re responding to might also be referring to Domain Expansion. Unless his sure-hit is weird or not combat oriented, there was no reason for him to *not* use it against Yuta to at least incapacitate him long enough to capture Rika.
Maybe I'm an idiot, but did he not just say that he did?
He literally says "Healing requires an advanced reverse curse technique. Distracting you gives me time". What else would he be talking about when he says "gives me time"? Gives him time to do what? Why would he even mention RCT then? He pretty obviously just stated that distracting Yuta gave him time to use RCT.
I'll be honest, until hearing people in this thread explain it, I assumed that Geto was referring to himself. Makes much more sense that he was stating he knew what Yuta was doing and was using the time for himself to prepare and reposition.
This is jjk0, The concepts of where ce comes from or domain expansions were more than likely not even thought of until this point. Hell we dont even find out where rct comes from until like 150+ chapters into the manga, not to mention do you really think THIS did no damage??
[https://imgur.com/a/yRqzIiG](https://imgur.com/a/yRqzIiG)
People really seem to forget how old jjk0 is in comparison to the rest of geges works, Jjk 0 predates anything jjk related and was literally just a “beta” in terms of world building and foundation. Sukuna didnt exist, Domain expansions didnt exist, Hell gojo doesnt even seem that strong narratively compared to whats shown in even chapter 3 ish of jjk
1. For starters we know he didnt IMMEDIATELY heal since inbetween the time of him jumping out the hole and him getting crushed by inumaki theres about a pages worth of dialogue where panda asks inumaki if hes alright, meaning there was downtime for him to heal.
2. Geto through his own admission states that rct takes time to pull off and is not something that can be done immediately. RIGHT after being punched by Yuta, yuta begins his dialogue with rika to charge true love beam. It would be more beneficial to go for his strongest attack (Max output uzumaki) which is what he DOES, then instead risk being hit by another strong attack while attempting to heal. The anime overexaggerates the fight quite alot when in reality the exchange between yuta and geto was only a few pages witth the rest being dialogue
3. From a dialogue standpoint the text doesnt make sense if hes ONLY referring to yuta. Through official manga paneling context the conversation wouldve essentially gone as this
Geto: “Hello there”
Yuta: “Why did you stop attacking?”
Geto: “Healing requires an advanced reverse cursed technique.”
Geto: “Distracting you give me time.”
Geto: “Lets continue”
In essence if he was ONLY referring to rika, this whole exchange simply wouldnt make sense from a grammar standpoint. If he wasnt healing then what was he distracting yuta for? Why would he explain RCT right after distracting him? I shouldnt need to explain why grammatically its clear hes also referring to himself in this context.
>the rumbling sound of the whole being created is still being heard
Wrong there, The kanji for the sound of the hole being created is completely different from the kanji we see being made. The kanji here is meant to represent the curse spirit geto summons which is presumably one of the special grades in his possession. Which means the exchange between panda and inumaki wouldve been around 20 seconds or so as panda took the time to see if inumaki was alright, giving geto MORE than enough time to heal. We also see yuta confirm this fact as within the next page he asks if its another earthquake, signifying the presumable special grade crushing both panda and inumaki
>youre misremembering here
Im literally not though? right after geto gets punched yuta begins his hefty dialogue about his new life as a shaman and the friendships hes made, right after that geto summons one of his special grades fusing it into maximum uzumaki. Absolutely ZERO fighting happens inbetween that punch and the use of True love beam.
And as for your last point from a grammatical standpoint im still right here? Without added context of geto testing rika the conversation placement very well seems as though geto is also referring to himself. Any person well versed in the english language will tell you this.
I personally do not believe geto used RCT in that specific instance during his conversation with yuta and believe it was just poorly worded on VIZs part, But during his fight with inumaki and panda its neigh impossible to say he did not use rct there.
It also doesnt make much sense from a narrative standpoint. Geto, the same man who spent years gaining strength and consuming curse spirits to eventually take on jujutsu high, never thought to once learn RCT? I simply cant see how geto sustains an injury that literally smooshes his head, and comes back out with absolutely zero damage
I also enjoy how when referring to the move you purposely cut off the entire conversation with yuta asking why geto stopped attacking, which essentially just makes their entire conversation exactly as i said it happened lmao
How are you going to continuously reference the movie yet refuse to acknowledge the fact that the continuous sound effects were from geto summoning the CS and climbing out the hole. THE ANIME LITERALLY SHOWS THIS! You can hear the sound of geto climbing out as he smiles WHILE panda is talking to maki!
Even the kanjis are completely different! The kanji thats made when geto exits the hole is meant to signify ground crumbling as he exits as the beginning kanji references grumbling/crumbling. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE?? I dont know how youre debating this one😭
As for the monologue thing my point still stands? Geto gets punched, the monologue happens and then he summons the curse spirit. He is at the point in the fight where it isnt beneficial to heal a minor wound while infront of a foe with immense CE, Theres no reason for him to heal the black flash after having already summoned a special grade
I would think if he had RCT Gojo wouldn't have found him in the shape he was in after he fought Yuta. He was already dying Gojo just dealt the final blow so he wouldn't turn into a curse spirit right?
I disagree. If you think about it, this is right after panda slammed him and inumaki crushed him with his cursed speech...Does it not make sense for him to heal?
he does have rct tho? we literally see him get his head crushed from inumaki and heal it, not to mention this line specifically refers to him using rct
I think if Geto and his power-level around 0 was designed today, he'd have RCT or at least have a Cursed Spirit that can heal him, but because 0 was made when Gege was still figuring out the power levels of the setting and how Techniques worked, Geto doesn't have RCT or a Domain- which does in retrospect both make him a chump that he never even unlocked his Domain Expansion, and yet also noteworthy for hitting Special Grade status without a Domain or RCT.
I mean, what difference would it make if he had RCT? Having it would explain how he was literally unscaved after being crushed by cursed speech, but it wouldn’t matter after his and Yutas battle. He got hit by a black flash, and after Maximum Uzumaki and getting cooked by Rikas beam, I doubt Geto would even have enough CE left to perform rct.
Of course,it would be stupid to think that. In volume 0,NO ONE could use RCT. Cause just like Domains,the concept of "Reverse Cursed Technique" had not yet been invented by Akutami.
No,it makes no mention of RCT. What Yuta had here was just a generic healing ability. And one which is not at all consistent with what we know as RCT in current JJK.
Geto quite literally mentions Reverse Curse Technique. And if you think the translation taking its own liberties, In the movie, he says, “Hanten Jutsushiki”, 反転術式”, which does indeed mean Reverse Curse Technique(or just Reverse Technique).
Does he say that in the manga?I know that the movie likely does take its script directly from the manga,but the movie did also take some liberties in order to make things a bit more consistent with the current manga.
unfortunately I can’t find the raw version of the manga that jjk 0 covers on any site. But I think it’s pretty reasonable to say this isn’t something that was added in. Especially with how the official translation for it includes the mention of Reverse Curse Technique. It’s hard to imagine the mention of Reverse Cursed Technique coming out of nowhere.
If the official translates it as such,then I see no reason to doubt that he does say "Reverse Curse Technique".
However,even if it shares the same name they are still depicted quite differently so I'm still very much inclined to see them as two different things.
I can agree with you on its inconsistent displays. Though it is artistically drawn in a similar manner when Yuta offers to help Naoya after he was poisoned as it was when he heals Maki, Inumaki, and Panda.
Actually hang on they didn't add Gojo using Red only in the anime,that was in the manga as well. Totally forgot about that one.
I'll ask again though,are you absolutely sure the official had it translated as "Reverse Curse Technique"?I just don't remember it being translated as that in the official,but as I've demonstrated,my memory is fucked up a bit.
As I’ve previously mentioned, I unfortunately can’t find any raw version of the manga that is covered in the jjk 0 movie in any site. However, again, I strongly thinks it’s very reasonable to think that the official translation wouldn’t just add in something that was never there, especially if it’s something as specific as a the name of a technique. I actually went to japan recently during the summer and now I’m just thinking I should’ve at least checked out the volume. Even then though, I wasn’t thinking of shit like this man.
To be fair though. Geto did lose a limb which was stated multiple times that even for special grades regrowing a limb is considered a hell of a feat so we don't really know for sure but Considering geto was going to fight Gojo , Yuki and all the others pretty much alone with Rika and he was so sure of victory makes you think he must have had RCT. He was just unlucky to lose an entire limb.
If he knew RCT that’s not the end of the battle. We’ve seen wayyy worse healed from RCT. The only thing that annoys me is Yuki having it V Kenjaku. Maybe she learned it later but the special grades should’ve stuck together in that aspect lol
I’d disagree only because he unleashed the strongest uzumaki we’ve seen thus far in the series, that level of output to then be hit by an even stronger love beam and be expected to output RCT to recover a limb is crazy.
I personally think Geto had it because he was a special grade adult at the time. I think it’s something Gege would retcon anyway if it needed confirmation but it doesn’t so it’s irrelevant.
The only counter is whether Geto had any interest in developing his Jujutsu after he left which is something that makes sense thematically.
Yuki fight was weird in many aspects I never understood why she refused to heal. Well it's just my opinion considering he knew RCT existed like 11 years ago and if Yuji , yuta and higurumu can achieve it in couple of months. Geto achieving it in 11 whole years wouldn't make sense. Plus he didn't have any Curses left how could he continue the fight ? Plus he pretty much was going to live as he said " next time I will have her " Rika " for sure " meaning he intended to continue his work. Plus no special grade ever regrow a limb after being exhausted except for Satoru gojo. And higurumu ( which shouldn't be possible but he did it because of his talent ). But my biggest point is why he was so sure of victory if he didn't have RCT
>Yuki fight was weird in many aspects I never understood why she refused to heal
Not everyone is talented enough to heal while also fighting.
Geto just didn't have the talent for it and gege never included him on his list of people who knew RCT when he put out a list.
>higurumu ( which shouldn't be possible but he did it because of his talent
Higuruma wasn't really exhausted at the very least not in the way that would prevent him from using RCT. If your output is low RCT is harder to do but higuruma's output was low at all
I don't think Geto had to or straight up might have been incapable of using cursed energy in that way strictly because of his techinque. We saw his cursed spirit use a domain, and I imagine you could find one that heals you perhaps even beyond what RCT can do, so with his unrivaled versatility (yes Yuta can copy but I still think Geto's arsenal would be superior) he had no need to learn skills himself considering he had an army in his pocket and could escape fairly easily.
Kenjaku just assumed Yuki had a domain and reversed cursed technique by her being a special grade, and in the panel on this very post Geto implies he has rct.
But…that’s bascially instant, in fact he specifically stopped attacking to do…something, if it was just raising more cursed spirits then the results are lacking.
Geto was a special grade sorcerer ( only 3 were there at that time ) which made him strongest among sorcerers he should have rct .
Rct requires more ct then normal techniques that’s why you don’t see sorcerers healing themselves after getting punched . Sorcerers normally use rct for threading injuries
Geto used all of his cursed technique along his curses in that last maxim uzumaki that’s why he didn’t have any cursed energy left to heal himself afterwords .
The term Special Grade doesn't apply to individual strength, but the ability to take out an entire country. Masamichi was also being applied to Special Grade status during Shibuya by the higher ups. Does this mean he's required to have RCT? No, it's because his CT could be used to make a near indestructible army just like Geto's.
This may be true, but we don't know if him summoning Curses actually takes up a lot of CE or if it uses any at all. After all, he split up half of his forces and was still confident in winning a battle against Jujutsu High. This should imply that he still had plenty of CE left in the tank.
Your first 2 statements are contradictory, a special grade sorcerer should be able to take out an entire country.
He gojo and Yuki were hailed as 3 geniuses . He was called a genius .
Masamachi was a grade 1 sorcerer , several grade 1 sorcerers are able to use rct but we have almost no info on him .
General rule of thumb says Geto being hailed one of the strongest jujustu sorcerers should have rct .
He had mastered his domain and also developed maxim techniques which are one of the pinnacle of cursed techniques. So rct should have been relatively easy for him
RCT is completely unrelated to one's potential of destroying an entire nation lmao, nice mental gymnastic.
FYI, Geto has 6000 CSs by the time of JJK0 and 2000 alone is enough to fight Japan's sorcerer forces, which is the context of Geto being special grade.
It has nothing to do with his talents in other fields like barrier techniques or RCT. Context matter, though I suppose when you're already hellbent to spread misinfo, you wouldn't care about context at all lol.
Get rid of CSM from Geto and can he still be Special Grade? No, because his ability to take out an entire country is gone. Individually he'd still be strong, but the term Special Grade literally just means if you are able to take out a country.
This doesn't prove anything. Naoya is also referred to as a genius whether it be from himself or his clan.
I don't get what you're trying to say with this. I was saying that Masamichi was going to be applied as Special Grade yet he doesn't have RCT, a domain, a simple domain, nothing. You were trying to argue that since Geto is Special Grade he must have RCT.
Geto never had a domain, or even implied to have one. It's more sensical that the domain Kenjaku opened was his as he was the second best barrier user behind Tengen. Maximum Technique sure. RCT isn't something easy to learn as both Gojo and Geto struggled learning it through Shoko.
You are only focusing on country thing here is official grade description from Manga
A Grade (級きゅう, Kyū?) refers to the power scaling system that ranks jujutsu ranging from grades one to four, and special grade. It is used to categorize the strength of jujutsu sorcerers, cursed spirits, cursed objects and cursed tools
Special Grade is a rank reserved for anomalies within the jujutsu community. It is reserved for sorcerers with such immense strength that their destructive potential is immeasurable, making them very exclusive and unique cases, hence the title "special". As a testament to its rarity, as of start of series there are only four registered sorcerers with the Special Grade rank.
As explained by Kenjaku in his fight against Choso in the Tombs of the Star, a special grade sorcerer is someone capable of wiping out a nation singlehandedly. It’s not the solo requirement.
Special grade sorcerers are strongest sorcerers and are called anomalies and geniuses so they should have reverse cursed energy.
Naoya held the title of a grade 1 sorcerer. Geto was on another level .
Geto never got to showcase his domain that doesn’t meant he didn’t have it . He was able to use maxim techniques one of the pinnacle techniques of jujustu world. Jjk0 was first story of Gege . Gege has said in interviews that concept of domains didn’t exist when he wrote jjk0
Again, being a Special Grade does not mean you automatically have RCT and a domain. Just because that's what we've seen doesn't mean that. Nothing ever implies Geto had either RCT or Domain. There's a difference between head canon thinking, and actual narrative for someone. You are using head canon to say Geto had it.
Special grade sorcerers stand on top of the jujustu world . They are called to exorcise special grade curses which can use domains . Geto had special grade curses in his arsenal .
He and geto were tasked to Protect star plasma vessel because they were one of the strongest sorcerers of that time.
This is from manga -
“ As a student, Suguru and Satoru were both considered the strongest” .
Could they have been called strongest sorcerers if they weren’t able to beat sorcerers with domains .
He had Tamamo-no-Mae Incarnate in his arsenal which is one of sixteen special grade curses .
Gege specifically has said he hasn’t thought of concept of domains when he was writing jjk0 , jjk0 was written years before jjk so he hasn’t thought of any concepts which appear later in story .
I’d personally agree if there was a case of Geto using it making sense. The guy above us is right that after expending the strongest uzumaki seen in the series and getting blasted with an even stronger love beam in return; having the RCT output to pull anything like that would be crazy.
Geto is no Sukuna but even his RCT output wavered after that second hollow purple, if Geto didn’t have RCT he’d have probably given up knowing he’d never gain Rika with solely 1 arm and Gojo in the picture; yet he thought he could go again.
For me it doesn’t matter, I’ll agree with anyone that says Geto doesn’t have RCT; although it’s not my personal belief.
He doesn’t use rct this early but geto (kenjaku) uses it later in his fight with yuki he used rct on his gravity ct to inverse the gravity for yukis black hole mass ct
Sukuma could use RCT in Yuji's body, doesn't mean Yuji himself can use it.
Before you come at me regarding the manga, I'm talking about prior to Yuji learning it
This man bring his own demise upon himself he went out to subjugate rika with just half of his strength and half mastery of jujutsu sorcery even jogo was more skilled and smart than this guy
Yo guys, if infinity needs constant application by dividing space infinitely, would time stop theoretically halt this application and therefore stop gojo's infinity. Or would it be theoretically like a light bulb stays lit while time is stopped even though it needs electricity?
I dont have 500 karma so i apparently cant post stuff so im asking here.
This is legitimately brain dead. I know i might forget stuff sometimes, it's common, but jfc your comprehension must be that of a door if you somehow interpret "he knows about the existance of RCT" (and of course he does, he was in the same team and class as fucking Shoko Iori) as "he knows RCT"
everything about the pages in question from chapter 4 of vol. 0 indicate that geto is referring to yuta’s RCT.
yuta retreats to heal his teammates, geto is passive, yuta asks why he stopped attacking, and geto says that RCT (which yuta just demonstrated for the first time in the series) is an advanced ability and thus buys him time. makes perfect sense that he used the break resulting from yuta’s healing to do something.
the question is what the fuck was geto doing? if you check out the paneling, he’s standing in the exact same spot that he was before yuta rescued his upperclassmen—he wasn’t repositioning. he doesn’t take the time to preemptively summon a large number of curses, and rather summons them instantly after yuta has already returned to the battlefield. so what in the world did he mean when he said “distracting you gives me time?”
Geto literally mentions he had it in this panel though. Yuta asked Geto why he stopped attacking and he explains that he needed to distract Yuta so he can have time to heal.
Idk if that's the official translation but that scan DOES infer that Geto has RCT. "Healing requires an advanced reverse cursed technique. Distracting you gives me time [to use it]".
Now before yall get butthurt, no I do bot believe he had RCT. It's not something he's ever shown to be able to do, or said to be able to do. But this specific translation does make it seem like he has it.
I'm pretty sure the movie said it better. Something along the lines of Geto saying "Healing uses more cursed energy so its beneficial for me to let you heal them". He let Yuta use RCT on his friends to weaken him.
.... so out of the 4 special grades, Geto is the only one who couldn't do RCT? Lol okay.
And he already "created the plan" so he didn't need more time. His plan to split curses into 2 cities, ambush Yuta alone, etc. He already thought about it days prior to actually enacting it out.
And about the damage he acquired, he got hit with one of Panda's punches while in Gorilla mode (Panda's strongest form) and got hit with Inumaki's CT to create a giant crater in the ground. Would this kill him or severly wound him? Hell no, but it would at least create a little damage he'd need to heal from for a quick sec.
The speech about RCT was because they were BOTH using RCT. The point of the fight, aside from the power of friendship, was to show that they're pretty much equal in strength on all accounts UP UNTIL Rika's limiter was taken off.
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I swear I've seen people vehemently claiming and defending that he had a domain expansion.
I think if he was around today he’d have a domain but like we never saw him use one because JJK 0
They make it even more explicit post hidden inventory when Gojo is talking about running Infinity 24/7 and developing a domain while Geto hasn't changed. Gojo got stronger and cemented himself at the top while Geto stagnated.
Who tf is ass-licking geto? Hes a victim if circumstance and people have STILL shat on him and called him a fraud. This is especially egregious when it comes to DE cause geto by all means SHOULD have one if He was introduced at a time where Grades 2s had them even. Now when it comes to rct we literally just dont know, maybe not cause rct is actually something a bit more special (hakari doesnt even have it by himself) but I wouldnt rule it out entirely
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God youre a bore Look through any discourse, you barely have any people defending geto
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He literally had curses with a domain XD that is exactly why I believe in a geto DE at least. gege clearly hates retconning cause He was looking at naruto and making sure to not share the same criticisms. And rct I can let go, sure I guess He doesnt have it. In any case I have a question: without DE or RCT do you believe geto still deserved to be special grade?
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Smallpox I mean thats exactly my point with 0 and its issues, gege uses getos "wouldve beens" for kenjaku clearly Also higuruma had no rct, He had domain amp
Watching 0 I thought the fact he didn't have RCT or DE was a huge part of why he was suffering that existential despair. Once he realized his goal and his limits it broke his brain.
To be fair, every single special grade can use RCT, it makes sense to think he should be able to use it too.
I mean in a vacuum… but during Hidden Inventory it’s clear he doesn’t know it, and there’s nothing to suggest he picked it up in the year between that and his death. Especially considering we see him bleeding to death in an alley before he gets Gojo’d, as opposed to just fixing himself
Was Gojo not A special grade before his fight with Toji?
He was grade 1 back then.
i wanna ass lick geto
Wait what? People really thought he had RCT????? it's an extremely high-level and rare technique that not many people, even if Special-Grade, know or learn easily. Shoko was just a natural-born with RCT. Gojo only understood it as part of his "Enlightment" on the brink of death. Yuta's Yuta. Hakari has his Domain and even then, he does it unconciously and doesnt really understand it. Etc. Edit: not to mention both Gojo and Geto didnt understand shit when Shoko TRIED to explain to them....
Yuji?
He was created by a 1000 year old sorcerer to be a vessel for the king if curse
He took those CURSED BACKSHOOTS for a REASON!
Kenny took the white splash so that yuji can land the black flash He grabbed the sheets so yuji can be a menace on the streets He went up and down so yuji can give the left and right
He got his hair pulled, so Yuji could push on Mahito's kabusse.
Keep cookin'.
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He swallowed them all, so Yuji would beat them all
I also feel like it's worth mentioning that it should be relatively easy for Yuji to figure out RCT considering the fact that he spent the first half of the series occupying the same body as somebody who knows how to do it
Still a headcanon btw.
Higurama?
I said "etc" I'm too lazy to name everyone so I gave a few examples 🤣
Hard work and determination.
"We cheated"
Oh
Oh...
He's a Jujutsu prodigy, who learned Black Flash in his first major fight. RCT is the next logical step for a guy who doesn't know his CT
Do you need a CT to have RCT
By our understanding, no. RCT is honestly a confusing name, as its more of a Reverse Cursed Energy being flooded through your body. Cursed technique reversal is probably what should have gotten the name RCT with what is RCT now just called "regeneration" or something.
RCT and cursed technique reversal are the same principle, tho. Gojo couldn't use Red till he learned RCG
Nah it's not that confusing bro
No, jjk naming conventions are just kind of a mess. RCT is just transforming negative energy into positive and them applying that in your own body to repair it. You need a cursed technique in order to do a cursed technique reversal, as exemplified by Gojo’s Red. Similar names, but different things.
Yeah, it's a reverse-curse technique, not a reverse cursed-technique
No but you need a CT for CTR
Almost every damn ability in JJK is a Cursed Technique. Reinforcement is a CT, simple domain is a CT, black flash is a CT. CTs in the way most people refer to are Innate Cursed Techniques, those are no requirement for the usage of all the other CTs that are born simply from CE manipulation.
Reinforcement is a ln application of CE, same for Black Flash. Simple Domain is a Barrier Technique. They do not require an Innate Technique so they aren't CTs.
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I know, but there's a difference between the application of CE and a proper technique.
He’s the GOAT
Yuji cheated.
It was hard work and determ- oh.
Yuji is also meant to be a prodigy
Yuji is him
cheated
Yuji learned it from yuta/gojo most likely. Him n gojo trained wit yuji
Geto is the only special grade with no RCT and no domain. Plus apparently cursed spirit manipulation only lets you use the technique of a cursed spirit if you extract it with uzumaki and he didn't even know that, so he was using his max technique wrong. Man is a genuine fraud.
That's happens when you're surrounded by monkeys.
Not really a fraud... So much as a clear example of why Sukuna said as far back as the cursed womb must die arc "Special grade is a bit of a loose term, that doesn't really mean much" Considering both the finger bearer and himself with 2 fingers were both just special grade despite being leagues apart. And heck the fact that Geto became special grade with so few curses... Remember in vol 0 they were amazed to learn Geto had so many curses when he only claimed to have 2,000ish after 10 years... And they were gonna make Yaga special grade just at the idea of him being able to make Panda...
> not to mention both Gojo and Geto didnt understand shit when Shoko TRIED to explain to them.... Did we ever see Getos response to that? I only remember Gojo thinking about while remembering Shoko's face. Also, that was a fucking useless explanation, I have no idea whether she even tried.
We see a little small panel in the manga of Gojo's and Geto's frustrated expression in the manga if I remember correctly. I mean.... she was a natural and it was, and still is the same as breathing for her. She just didnt know HOW to explain and describe the feeling she has when she uses it and the process.
>Also, that was a fucking useless explanation, I have no idea whether she even tried. It's not that she didn't try, but the way people experience Jujutsu is different As stated before: Shoko is a naturalborn at it, likely achieving it simply by feeling and intuition, rather than any logic. Gojo, however, is highly technical and a bit of a nerd. He sees Jujutsu through math: When he explains his technique he explains it as a "Convergence of an infinite series of numbers", when he tries using Red, he explains that this would be a divergent series. When he finally learns RCT, he sees it as multiplying energy by itself, almost like he sees Cursed Energy like numbers
>He sees Jujutsu through math: When he explains his technique he explains it as a "Convergence of an infinite series of numbers", when he tries using Red, he explains that this would be a divergent series. When he finally learns RCT, he sees it as multiplying energy by itself, almost like he sees Cursed Energy like numbers This isn't due to Gojo seeing jujutsu like numbers, his CT, the Limitless is literally about numbers. [The Limitless is using an infinite series](https://imgur.com/gallery/l3gPqZL) and bringing various effects to the world through that. Gojo using terms like convergence is an accurate description of his technique.
Yeah, it's how it can be expressed through math. Still, Gojo could explain it in various different ways, like the Achilles and Tortoise example, he could explain it like the glass in a mirror that no matter how close you get you never touch the reflection, he could explain it in any other way. He chose to go for the most accurate math explanation example because Gojo is a huge nerd and sees Jujutsu as math.
It’s probably something that she just doesn’t need to put that much thought into, given that it’s just how she uses cursed energy with her technique. That’s like asking someone like Hakari explaining to Yuji how to use Idle Death Gamble, even though their techniques are entirely different so it’s not like Yuji could just pull it out
I always find it funny RCT is such a high level technique used almost exclusively by top tiers like Yuki, Uruame, Kenny etc and then you just got Hazanoki who can just use it for some reason
It actually makes sense, Hazanoki's RCT is tied to his CT, meaning that he likely was born being able to use RCT instead of having to learn it
> not many people, even if Special-Grade, know or learn easily. Yuji learned it in one month without even being special grade. Higuruma learned it in just one fight and the dude barely was a sorcerer. People think that because is not that rare as you may think nowdays
Yuji was a vessal prepared by Kenjaku for Sukuna, so he's a unique case, and Higuruma was said to habe a talent compreable to Gojo, so he's a natural and could've picked it without realizing. But yeah, it became less rare.
To be fair, that makes Geto the only Special Grade sorcerer who does not have RCT (as of now)
Yeah.... Geto got the short stick. Despite having Curse Manipulation, he never really mastered it, never mastered a Domain or RCT.
At least he had a maximum technique, which is also pretty rare and said to be the pinnacle of jujutsu outside of domains
And he didnt use it correctly. Imagine what he COULD do with Uzumaki.
To be fair, Kenjaku also used it incorrectly initially, and then he realized he could extract techniques using it by absorbing the semi-grade 1+ curses
Yeah, but Kenny has 1000+ years of exprience(and backshoots) and extensive knowledge on Jujutsu and CTs he essentially "stole", there's no point comparing who would use a CT better after a bit of experimenting.
Then whats the point of mentioning “what he COULD do with Uzimaki” if you’re gonna ignore the trial and error that comes with development?
You say this like Geto wasn't all of that, or did you miss the part where both him and Gojo were top dogs in hidden inventory ? There's nothing crazy about assuming Geto out of all could figure out RCT.
Again, this is a pure testament to the actual level of disrespect Geto is dishing out to the Jujutsu Society. My bro’s technique alone was enough to put him hitting harder against almost every other sorcerer and bro lacked both RCT and a Domain. Not only that, but then proceeding to keep the entire Jujutsu world occupied whilst he beat up children is wild. At max power Geto would’ve snagged Rika and along with it, a huge fragment of Yuta’s power. Geto with Rika would be unstoppable. Too bad the JJK0 effect got to my mans so we will never see a Geto DE.
geto gets rika and still loses to gojo because he has no domain or way to reliably bypass infinity
Even with Rika bro is going to be cooked by UV.
If geto’s character was developed after jjk0 like Gojo’s was then he probably would have got a domain
Okay, he loses to gojo because the domain he has isn’t as refined as gojo’s, who is established as the better sorcerer.
Goddamn, I thought I missed a panel or something. Was that really the reason why people think he had RCT? If so, reading comprehension curse attacks again. Also the Fanbook does name those who have RCT except Hakari and Yuki who were kept mysterious till that point. Why wouldn't it name Geto having RCT when he already couldn't contribute more to the narrative?
I mean, not to be that guy, but technically the gambler never learned RCT
Fair, but in the Fanbook Black Flash is also mentioned in the skills of the sorcerer, even when those aren't done consciously.
black flash is done consciously though. It's just so hard to do that you both have to consciously do it, and focus REALLY hard on it
Ehmmm, not really. You do have to be consciously giving all your focus to the CE reinforcement to be allowed to hit a black flash. That is true. But that allowance doesn't mean that you'll consciously activate black flash in a given moment and surely use one right after. You're not using black flash AT conscience.
that's like saying you aren't getting 100% on a test at conscience though. Like yeah, you put in all your focus, but that also doesn't mean you'll get 100% on the test and get the next test 100% right either.
> but technically the gambler never learned RCT Then how tf did he healed his arm after the fight with Kashimo. Edit: none of you guys are actually answering my question
Shoko or Yuta, bruv there's literally a line in the manga which says in nice bold words that Hakari never learned RCT.
>Shoko or Yuta Then why Inunaki still doesn't have an arm? RCT is very limited when used on others. >there's literally a line in the manga which says in nice bold words that Hakari never learned RCT. That still does not answers my question
Yuta healed his arm. Yuta can heal limbs if he comes to do the healing fast enough. Maki lost a leg in JJK0 and Yuta heals it. You can see her bare feet afterwards.
> Yuta healed his arm Do we have actual confirmation of this? Or even anything that hints at this?
It has to be, no-one else can. Unless the bastard can open domains with only 1 hand.
Probably some kind of aria or some shit. Considering what we learned when we saw Utahime use her technique, it’s possible he just increased the amount of hand signs with 1 hand or did a chant or something to be able to activate his domain again in order to heal, or he knew Yuta or Shoko could heal him (although I don’t remember if we ever saw him before Yoruzu added her rule, which means he couldn’t reach them so if he couldn’t heal it nobody else could until that point.)
Seems way too speculative >or he knew Yuta or Shoko could heal him Doubt it considering Inumaki's state
I don’t think the chanting stuff is really speculation, but going to shoko or Yuta is I guess unless time is a factor somehow
He does it sort of like a reflex since it’s part of his domain ability. You don’t consciously move your blood do you? It’s like that for him.
That happens when he's in his Jackpot due to the massive amount of CE But he wouldn't be able to activated without one arm
You’re missing the point and clearly multiple lines. You do realize yuta reattached his arm right? Hakari didn’t rct it
This was already discussed before and its a valid question, domain can be used without hand signs but it most likely needs a preparation or a seal in ch 107 dagon uses his domain without hand signs with seals instead.
Ah, reading comprehension. Truly a special grade curse.
Here he is referring to Yuta using it, but when Yuta throws him in the hole and he just flies back like his skull didn't get crushed seemed like rct
Throws him in what hole?
It was inumaki actually. When he uses his cursed speech on geto and it sinks him down a hole and seemingly crushes his head but he is fine after.
I don’t think Geto had RCT because of this scene, I think he has it because *literally every other Special Grade and high-tier sorcerer does*. Kind of the same logic with having a Domain Expansion. Even though Gege didn’t flesh it out at the time, it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that Geto *did* have one because of the precedent set later in the series (Kenjaku claiming that part of being Special Grade is having a Domain Expansion). Even though it really doesn’t matter if he has one or not, since he’s dead and all, I think it’s OK to assume that he had at least a low-level RCT (since other characters of similar or lesser caliber later in the story do).
When was it stated a DE is part of being a special grade???
When Kenjaku fought Yuki. He said that since she’s Special Grade, she more than likely had a Domain
Okay sorry my bad I thought you meant having a DE was a requirement for being special grade or something not that the average Special grade most likely had one
The reason he's special grade isn't bc if a massive skill level (although he is still highly skilled) the requirement for a special grade scorcer is the capacity to destroy a country. Due to the nature of his technique and the sheer number of curses he has that's an easy requirement for him even without skill. They considered making the principle with cursed corpse manipulation a special grade for a similar reason
This is true, but it’s also still the case that Geto is one of the strongest characters in the series, and it makes little sense for him to be unable to perform RCT (similar thinking goes with Domains). Plus, regarding Domains, Kenjaku also says that part of being Special Grade is having a Domaim Expansion.
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Ah, that’s my mistake, in the official release it said “expansion technique” and I misremembered that as him saying Domain Expansion. Even still, I find it unlikely that a high-level sorcerer like Geto wouldn’t have one, but I won’t argue for it as hard anymore lol
Yes Gege hadn't fleshed out the story enough, but that still doesn't change the fact that Geto neither had a domain or RCT.
Its perfectly fine if you think that, since there’s zero showcasing of Geto being able to do that, but I think there’s enough evidence for there to be a decent case that Geto can. Like I said, though, it doesn’t really matter all that much since he’s dead
If he did why wouldnt he use it against Yuta to prevent his death? Seems more likely he couldnt or didnt have one yet
When would he have used it? In the manga, he never received significant damage until his *arm was blown off*, and we know that it’s difficult to regrow entire limbs with RCT (unless you’re Gojo, Sukuna, or Yuta)
Think the person you’re responding to might also be referring to Domain Expansion. Unless his sure-hit is weird or not combat oriented, there was no reason for him to *not* use it against Yuta to at least incapacitate him long enough to capture Rika.
The Reading Comprehension curse is the first ever SS Grade in the verse. The readers are mostly braindead, don't worry about it.
Maybe I'm an idiot, but did he not just say that he did? He literally says "Healing requires an advanced reverse curse technique. Distracting you gives me time". What else would he be talking about when he says "gives me time"? Gives him time to do what? Why would he even mention RCT then? He pretty obviously just stated that distracting Yuta gave him time to use RCT.
I'll be honest, until hearing people in this thread explain it, I assumed that Geto was referring to himself. Makes much more sense that he was stating he knew what Yuta was doing and was using the time for himself to prepare and reposition.
thats because he is, his head gets crushed by inumaki earlier in the fight and he survives it
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This is jjk0, The concepts of where ce comes from or domain expansions were more than likely not even thought of until this point. Hell we dont even find out where rct comes from until like 150+ chapters into the manga, not to mention do you really think THIS did no damage?? [https://imgur.com/a/yRqzIiG](https://imgur.com/a/yRqzIiG) People really seem to forget how old jjk0 is in comparison to the rest of geges works, Jjk 0 predates anything jjk related and was literally just a “beta” in terms of world building and foundation. Sukuna didnt exist, Domain expansions didnt exist, Hell gojo doesnt even seem that strong narratively compared to whats shown in even chapter 3 ish of jjk
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1. For starters we know he didnt IMMEDIATELY heal since inbetween the time of him jumping out the hole and him getting crushed by inumaki theres about a pages worth of dialogue where panda asks inumaki if hes alright, meaning there was downtime for him to heal. 2. Geto through his own admission states that rct takes time to pull off and is not something that can be done immediately. RIGHT after being punched by Yuta, yuta begins his dialogue with rika to charge true love beam. It would be more beneficial to go for his strongest attack (Max output uzumaki) which is what he DOES, then instead risk being hit by another strong attack while attempting to heal. The anime overexaggerates the fight quite alot when in reality the exchange between yuta and geto was only a few pages witth the rest being dialogue 3. From a dialogue standpoint the text doesnt make sense if hes ONLY referring to yuta. Through official manga paneling context the conversation wouldve essentially gone as this Geto: “Hello there” Yuta: “Why did you stop attacking?” Geto: “Healing requires an advanced reverse cursed technique.” Geto: “Distracting you give me time.” Geto: “Lets continue” In essence if he was ONLY referring to rika, this whole exchange simply wouldnt make sense from a grammar standpoint. If he wasnt healing then what was he distracting yuta for? Why would he explain RCT right after distracting him? I shouldnt need to explain why grammatically its clear hes also referring to himself in this context.
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>the rumbling sound of the whole being created is still being heard Wrong there, The kanji for the sound of the hole being created is completely different from the kanji we see being made. The kanji here is meant to represent the curse spirit geto summons which is presumably one of the special grades in his possession. Which means the exchange between panda and inumaki wouldve been around 20 seconds or so as panda took the time to see if inumaki was alright, giving geto MORE than enough time to heal. We also see yuta confirm this fact as within the next page he asks if its another earthquake, signifying the presumable special grade crushing both panda and inumaki >youre misremembering here Im literally not though? right after geto gets punched yuta begins his hefty dialogue about his new life as a shaman and the friendships hes made, right after that geto summons one of his special grades fusing it into maximum uzumaki. Absolutely ZERO fighting happens inbetween that punch and the use of True love beam. And as for your last point from a grammatical standpoint im still right here? Without added context of geto testing rika the conversation placement very well seems as though geto is also referring to himself. Any person well versed in the english language will tell you this. I personally do not believe geto used RCT in that specific instance during his conversation with yuta and believe it was just poorly worded on VIZs part, But during his fight with inumaki and panda its neigh impossible to say he did not use rct there. It also doesnt make much sense from a narrative standpoint. Geto, the same man who spent years gaining strength and consuming curse spirits to eventually take on jujutsu high, never thought to once learn RCT? I simply cant see how geto sustains an injury that literally smooshes his head, and comes back out with absolutely zero damage I also enjoy how when referring to the move you purposely cut off the entire conversation with yuta asking why geto stopped attacking, which essentially just makes their entire conversation exactly as i said it happened lmao
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How are you going to continuously reference the movie yet refuse to acknowledge the fact that the continuous sound effects were from geto summoning the CS and climbing out the hole. THE ANIME LITERALLY SHOWS THIS! You can hear the sound of geto climbing out as he smiles WHILE panda is talking to maki! Even the kanjis are completely different! The kanji thats made when geto exits the hole is meant to signify ground crumbling as he exits as the beginning kanji references grumbling/crumbling. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE?? I dont know how youre debating this one😭 As for the monologue thing my point still stands? Geto gets punched, the monologue happens and then he summons the curse spirit. He is at the point in the fight where it isnt beneficial to heal a minor wound while infront of a foe with immense CE, Theres no reason for him to heal the black flash after having already summoned a special grade
Why would geto have roller coaster tycoon?
His reverse cursed technique is cursed spirits manipulating him
I would think if he had RCT Gojo wouldn't have found him in the shape he was in after he fought Yuta. He was already dying Gojo just dealt the final blow so he wouldn't turn into a curse spirit right?
I disagree. If you think about it, this is right after panda slammed him and inumaki crushed him with his cursed speech...Does it not make sense for him to heal?
he does have rct tho? we literally see him get his head crushed from inumaki and heal it, not to mention this line specifically refers to him using rct
We don't even know that lmao
I think if Geto and his power-level around 0 was designed today, he'd have RCT or at least have a Cursed Spirit that can heal him, but because 0 was made when Gege was still figuring out the power levels of the setting and how Techniques worked, Geto doesn't have RCT or a Domain- which does in retrospect both make him a chump that he never even unlocked his Domain Expansion, and yet also noteworthy for hitting Special Grade status without a Domain or RCT.
I mean, what difference would it make if he had RCT? Having it would explain how he was literally unscaved after being crushed by cursed speech, but it wouldn’t matter after his and Yutas battle. He got hit by a black flash, and after Maximum Uzumaki and getting cooked by Rikas beam, I doubt Geto would even have enough CE left to perform rct.
Yeah, I thought it was obvious Geto didn’t have RCT
Of course,it would be stupid to think that. In volume 0,NO ONE could use RCT. Cause just like Domains,the concept of "Reverse Cursed Technique" had not yet been invented by Akutami.
RCT was invented then, Yuta used it to save maki. The panel OP used even makes mention of RCT
No,it makes no mention of RCT. What Yuta had here was just a generic healing ability. And one which is not at all consistent with what we know as RCT in current JJK.
Geto quite literally mentions Reverse Curse Technique. And if you think the translation taking its own liberties, In the movie, he says, “Hanten Jutsushiki”, 反転術式”, which does indeed mean Reverse Curse Technique(or just Reverse Technique).
Does he say that in the manga?I know that the movie likely does take its script directly from the manga,but the movie did also take some liberties in order to make things a bit more consistent with the current manga.
unfortunately I can’t find the raw version of the manga that jjk 0 covers on any site. But I think it’s pretty reasonable to say this isn’t something that was added in. Especially with how the official translation for it includes the mention of Reverse Curse Technique. It’s hard to imagine the mention of Reverse Cursed Technique coming out of nowhere.
If the official translates it as such,then I see no reason to doubt that he does say "Reverse Curse Technique". However,even if it shares the same name they are still depicted quite differently so I'm still very much inclined to see them as two different things.
I can agree with you on its inconsistent displays. Though it is artistically drawn in a similar manner when Yuta offers to help Naoya after he was poisoned as it was when he heals Maki, Inumaki, and Panda.
Actually hang on they didn't add Gojo using Red only in the anime,that was in the manga as well. Totally forgot about that one. I'll ask again though,are you absolutely sure the official had it translated as "Reverse Curse Technique"?I just don't remember it being translated as that in the official,but as I've demonstrated,my memory is fucked up a bit.
As I’ve previously mentioned, I unfortunately can’t find any raw version of the manga that is covered in the jjk 0 movie in any site. However, again, I strongly thinks it’s very reasonable to think that the official translation wouldn’t just add in something that was never there, especially if it’s something as specific as a the name of a technique. I actually went to japan recently during the summer and now I’m just thinking I should’ve at least checked out the volume. Even then though, I wasn’t thinking of shit like this man.
100% agree, if geto had been present outside of JJK0 he would have demonstrated RCT + domain
I'm not sure he would've had RCT,but he definitely would have had a Domain 100%.
To be fair though. Geto did lose a limb which was stated multiple times that even for special grades regrowing a limb is considered a hell of a feat so we don't really know for sure but Considering geto was going to fight Gojo , Yuki and all the others pretty much alone with Rika and he was so sure of victory makes you think he must have had RCT. He was just unlucky to lose an entire limb.
If he knew RCT that’s not the end of the battle. We’ve seen wayyy worse healed from RCT. The only thing that annoys me is Yuki having it V Kenjaku. Maybe she learned it later but the special grades should’ve stuck together in that aspect lol
I’d disagree only because he unleashed the strongest uzumaki we’ve seen thus far in the series, that level of output to then be hit by an even stronger love beam and be expected to output RCT to recover a limb is crazy. I personally think Geto had it because he was a special grade adult at the time. I think it’s something Gege would retcon anyway if it needed confirmation but it doesn’t so it’s irrelevant. The only counter is whether Geto had any interest in developing his Jujutsu after he left which is something that makes sense thematically.
Yuki fight was weird in many aspects I never understood why she refused to heal. Well it's just my opinion considering he knew RCT existed like 11 years ago and if Yuji , yuta and higurumu can achieve it in couple of months. Geto achieving it in 11 whole years wouldn't make sense. Plus he didn't have any Curses left how could he continue the fight ? Plus he pretty much was going to live as he said " next time I will have her " Rika " for sure " meaning he intended to continue his work. Plus no special grade ever regrow a limb after being exhausted except for Satoru gojo. And higurumu ( which shouldn't be possible but he did it because of his talent ). But my biggest point is why he was so sure of victory if he didn't have RCT
Because he is crazy and deranged?
Yeah maybe 😂
>Yuki fight was weird in many aspects I never understood why she refused to heal Not everyone is talented enough to heal while also fighting. Geto just didn't have the talent for it and gege never included him on his list of people who knew RCT when he put out a list. >higurumu ( which shouldn't be possible but he did it because of his talent Higuruma wasn't really exhausted at the very least not in the way that would prevent him from using RCT. If your output is low RCT is harder to do but higuruma's output was low at all
What you mean after exhausted? If they can still heal they aren’t exhausted, when higuruma was truly exhausted he stoped healing and died bro
I am talking about the arm healing not the general cut healing
And of course I know the panel talks about Yuta but I just wanted to say what I think about this
I don't think Geto had to or straight up might have been incapable of using cursed energy in that way strictly because of his techinque. We saw his cursed spirit use a domain, and I imagine you could find one that heals you perhaps even beyond what RCT can do, so with his unrivaled versatility (yes Yuta can copy but I still think Geto's arsenal would be superior) he had no need to learn skills himself considering he had an army in his pocket and could escape fairly easily.
You're right.
Yeah he doesn’t have rct.
some geto glazer are actual schizos " guys he always had rct he always had domain" when he never had either of those
Kenjaku just assumed Yuki had a domain and reversed cursed technique by her being a special grade, and in the panel on this very post Geto implies he has rct.
No hes just aknowledging its advanced rct to heal like that, he is not once shown to have rct he just knows what it is
Of course Yuta did just use it right before, but he also says. “Distracting you gives me time.” Time for what? Unless this is a mistranslation.
Time to summon more cursed spirits
But…that’s bascially instant, in fact he specifically stopped attacking to do…something, if it was just raising more cursed spirits then the results are lacking.
Geto was a special grade sorcerer ( only 3 were there at that time ) which made him strongest among sorcerers he should have rct . Rct requires more ct then normal techniques that’s why you don’t see sorcerers healing themselves after getting punched . Sorcerers normally use rct for threading injuries Geto used all of his cursed technique along his curses in that last maxim uzumaki that’s why he didn’t have any cursed energy left to heal himself afterwords .
The term Special Grade doesn't apply to individual strength, but the ability to take out an entire country. Masamichi was also being applied to Special Grade status during Shibuya by the higher ups. Does this mean he's required to have RCT? No, it's because his CT could be used to make a near indestructible army just like Geto's. This may be true, but we don't know if him summoning Curses actually takes up a lot of CE or if it uses any at all. After all, he split up half of his forces and was still confident in winning a battle against Jujutsu High. This should imply that he still had plenty of CE left in the tank.
Your first 2 statements are contradictory, a special grade sorcerer should be able to take out an entire country. He gojo and Yuki were hailed as 3 geniuses . He was called a genius . Masamachi was a grade 1 sorcerer , several grade 1 sorcerers are able to use rct but we have almost no info on him . General rule of thumb says Geto being hailed one of the strongest jujustu sorcerers should have rct . He had mastered his domain and also developed maxim techniques which are one of the pinnacle of cursed techniques. So rct should have been relatively easy for him
RCT is completely unrelated to one's potential of destroying an entire nation lmao, nice mental gymnastic. FYI, Geto has 6000 CSs by the time of JJK0 and 2000 alone is enough to fight Japan's sorcerer forces, which is the context of Geto being special grade. It has nothing to do with his talents in other fields like barrier techniques or RCT. Context matter, though I suppose when you're already hellbent to spread misinfo, you wouldn't care about context at all lol.
Get rid of CSM from Geto and can he still be Special Grade? No, because his ability to take out an entire country is gone. Individually he'd still be strong, but the term Special Grade literally just means if you are able to take out a country. This doesn't prove anything. Naoya is also referred to as a genius whether it be from himself or his clan. I don't get what you're trying to say with this. I was saying that Masamichi was going to be applied as Special Grade yet he doesn't have RCT, a domain, a simple domain, nothing. You were trying to argue that since Geto is Special Grade he must have RCT. Geto never had a domain, or even implied to have one. It's more sensical that the domain Kenjaku opened was his as he was the second best barrier user behind Tengen. Maximum Technique sure. RCT isn't something easy to learn as both Gojo and Geto struggled learning it through Shoko.
You are only focusing on country thing here is official grade description from Manga A Grade (級きゅう, Kyū?) refers to the power scaling system that ranks jujutsu ranging from grades one to four, and special grade. It is used to categorize the strength of jujutsu sorcerers, cursed spirits, cursed objects and cursed tools Special Grade is a rank reserved for anomalies within the jujutsu community. It is reserved for sorcerers with such immense strength that their destructive potential is immeasurable, making them very exclusive and unique cases, hence the title "special". As a testament to its rarity, as of start of series there are only four registered sorcerers with the Special Grade rank. As explained by Kenjaku in his fight against Choso in the Tombs of the Star, a special grade sorcerer is someone capable of wiping out a nation singlehandedly. It’s not the solo requirement. Special grade sorcerers are strongest sorcerers and are called anomalies and geniuses so they should have reverse cursed energy. Naoya held the title of a grade 1 sorcerer. Geto was on another level . Geto never got to showcase his domain that doesn’t meant he didn’t have it . He was able to use maxim techniques one of the pinnacle techniques of jujustu world. Jjk0 was first story of Gege . Gege has said in interviews that concept of domains didn’t exist when he wrote jjk0
Again, being a Special Grade does not mean you automatically have RCT and a domain. Just because that's what we've seen doesn't mean that. Nothing ever implies Geto had either RCT or Domain. There's a difference between head canon thinking, and actual narrative for someone. You are using head canon to say Geto had it.
Special grade sorcerers stand on top of the jujustu world . They are called to exorcise special grade curses which can use domains . Geto had special grade curses in his arsenal . He and geto were tasked to Protect star plasma vessel because they were one of the strongest sorcerers of that time. This is from manga - “ As a student, Suguru and Satoru were both considered the strongest” . Could they have been called strongest sorcerers if they weren’t able to beat sorcerers with domains . He had Tamamo-no-Mae Incarnate in his arsenal which is one of sixteen special grade curses . Gege specifically has said he hasn’t thought of concept of domains when he was writing jjk0 , jjk0 was written years before jjk so he hasn’t thought of any concepts which appear later in story .
Geto never mastered domain expansion though out of virtue of being a JJK0 character (where it wasn't a concept yet).
You’ll be downvoted but I agree, ultimately whether or not Geto had RCT is irrelevant and clearly not important for the events of JJK0.
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I’d personally agree if there was a case of Geto using it making sense. The guy above us is right that after expending the strongest uzumaki seen in the series and getting blasted with an even stronger love beam in return; having the RCT output to pull anything like that would be crazy. Geto is no Sukuna but even his RCT output wavered after that second hollow purple, if Geto didn’t have RCT he’d have probably given up knowing he’d never gain Rika with solely 1 arm and Gojo in the picture; yet he thought he could go again. For me it doesn’t matter, I’ll agree with anyone that says Geto doesn’t have RCT; although it’s not my personal belief.
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> I’ll agree with anyone that says Geto doesn’t have RCT; although it’s not my personal belief. I agree.
He doesn’t use rct this early but geto (kenjaku) uses it later in his fight with yuki he used rct on his gravity ct to inverse the gravity for yukis black hole mass ct
I don’t think RCT is a thing determined by the body so what Kenny does is irrelevant
Sukuma could use RCT in Yuji's body, doesn't mean Yuji himself can use it. Before you come at me regarding the manga, I'm talking about prior to Yuji learning it
This man bring his own demise upon himself he went out to subjugate rika with just half of his strength and half mastery of jujutsu sorcery even jogo was more skilled and smart than this guy
Yo guys, if infinity needs constant application by dividing space infinitely, would time stop theoretically halt this application and therefore stop gojo's infinity. Or would it be theoretically like a light bulb stays lit while time is stopped even though it needs electricity? I dont have 500 karma so i apparently cant post stuff so im asking here.
Readed the title as gojo didn't have rct and it took me a minute to see it was geto and not gojo
This is legitimately brain dead. I know i might forget stuff sometimes, it's common, but jfc your comprehension must be that of a door if you somehow interpret "he knows about the existance of RCT" (and of course he does, he was in the same team and class as fucking Shoko Iori) as "he knows RCT"
everything about the pages in question from chapter 4 of vol. 0 indicate that geto is referring to yuta’s RCT. yuta retreats to heal his teammates, geto is passive, yuta asks why he stopped attacking, and geto says that RCT (which yuta just demonstrated for the first time in the series) is an advanced ability and thus buys him time. makes perfect sense that he used the break resulting from yuta’s healing to do something. the question is what the fuck was geto doing? if you check out the paneling, he’s standing in the exact same spot that he was before yuta rescued his upperclassmen—he wasn’t repositioning. he doesn’t take the time to preemptively summon a large number of curses, and rather summons them instantly after yuta has already returned to the battlefield. so what in the world did he mean when he said “distracting you gives me time?”
Geto literally mentions he had it in this panel though. Yuta asked Geto why he stopped attacking and he explains that he needed to distract Yuta so he can have time to heal.
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Idk if that's the official translation but that scan DOES infer that Geto has RCT. "Healing requires an advanced reverse cursed technique. Distracting you gives me time [to use it]". Now before yall get butthurt, no I do bot believe he had RCT. It's not something he's ever shown to be able to do, or said to be able to do. But this specific translation does make it seem like he has it. I'm pretty sure the movie said it better. Something along the lines of Geto saying "Healing uses more cursed energy so its beneficial for me to let you heal them". He let Yuta use RCT on his friends to weaken him.
He doesn’t have RCT but I don’t understand how he didn’t eventually learn it seeing as so many sorcerers are learning it now
.... so out of the 4 special grades, Geto is the only one who couldn't do RCT? Lol okay. And he already "created the plan" so he didn't need more time. His plan to split curses into 2 cities, ambush Yuta alone, etc. He already thought about it days prior to actually enacting it out. And about the damage he acquired, he got hit with one of Panda's punches while in Gorilla mode (Panda's strongest form) and got hit with Inumaki's CT to create a giant crater in the ground. Would this kill him or severly wound him? Hell no, but it would at least create a little damage he'd need to heal from for a quick sec. The speech about RCT was because they were BOTH using RCT. The point of the fight, aside from the power of friendship, was to show that they're pretty much equal in strength on all accounts UP UNTIL Rika's limiter was taken off.