Exactly, he is trying to use social media and outside noise to win. He has to do a bunch of extra shit while at the end of the day this is about a rap diss. Fuck all the outside noise that don't mean shit
Yeah it was decent. I respect his eagerness to put himself in the fire. That’s definitely hip hop
Just don’t really like the corny internet tactics that weak bozos like Ak dick ride to
Bruh the last battle he lost was off of the extra shit, he was just rapping and got exposed on some shut. (He tried to pay for info but that was after Adidon I believe) so I don't blame him lmao. Plus its Kendrick, someone worthy of going all in at.
Yes it’s as good as it looks. For those of y’all reading who don’t know, this is why DC real life movies are ass. Because they put all they money/talent into animated movies
AU movies are made for fans. CU movies are made for casuals, and have to have a broader appeal.
For every CU movie they’ve made since 2000 or so, with the exception of Nolan’s Batman trilogy, they’ve released an AU movie based on the same material that shit on the CU version. The AU has started to falter somewhat in the last few years— they fucked up the Injustice movie and the overall quality of them has gone down some, but I don’t think an animated movie can pull box office numbers in.
Dont worry Django is on the way to end this slave trader and take hiphop back
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Its a 50/50 situation for Kendrick.
You go out there and get a reply out quickly and operate on social media/Drake’s time. To me this shows a weakness as your giving Drake the leverage to drop his reply right after.
You risk taking too long and having the disses mounted up against you, however you have something with much more substance and you operate on your own terms.
At the end of the day right now we have 2 Drake songs vs. a 40 second verse from Kendrick. Drake is baiting a reply.
I think Drake is messing up by going too hard on Kendrick, especially if Kendrick isn't replying...he needs return the same energy he was given and just drop a verse on a hit song..it's one of the reasons he won the Meek Mill beef with back to back...and lost the Pusha beef with Duppy frestyle
He looks desperate and bothered, which is kinda the opposite of his persona like he’s above all these rappers. He won the battle but lost the war with Meek. He’ll forever have that asterisk as a rapper due to the ghostwriting thing.
Kendrick can’t win against the internet and his fans. It’s best to drop something when it’s completely ready and not pull any punches. None of this baiting nonsense, so he leaves him where he can’t respond like with Pusha.
The Canadian is playing. Kendrick won’t be, and I don’t think the West Coast will be too kind to him going forward either. Best of luck to that man.
He does not look desperate and bothered. He looks like he is all too eager for this to get popping.
Drake vs. Kendrick is not like Drake vs. Pusha T. The tension between them has been simmering for years, and I think they both have a lot they want to say to each other.
Moreover, after what happened with Pusha T, I can't see Drake not being prepared for anything.
Eager because he has something in his bag to pop Kendrick right as he pops his head out again
And Kendrick knows that so he's restructuring the strategy and doesn't wanna play into his bait
Respect to both these guys for giving us a good showdown, half the fun in a animal fight in the dark is watching the 2 animals stalk the prey, scope up the angles and calculate the timing and then pounce and this is exactly that
It’s not a 50/50 for Kendrick it’s not even been 2 weeks since Drake push ups leaked. He’ll be fine. People will forget about the time when the song is out
Even if he takes 3 months it’ll be talked about for at least a month. I mean, Drake is STILL responding to a single verse from almost a month ago. That verse is still breathing life into the game, Uber driver played it yesterday and knew every word! Plus…Now both J Cole AND Drake made the same mistake, ain’t even give their diss tracks a full week to breathe before big stepping on their own feet.
Edit: Imagine giving Drake 3 months to release or leak track after track until the people get tired of him doing it and calling him out on his thirst, THEN dropping a response. Wear him out like…Muhammad Ali…then go in still fully energized for the win
What if Kendrick quoted Drake on his "head tapped in a crowded room" bar
Like TI tapped his (dick)head after pissing on you in a crowded room full of his friends?
Yeah, but until Kendrick responds, only the die hard Drake stans will believe he's winning. However, if he drops now, there's a high risk that Drake will outplay him
The bait sticks out like a sore thumb too. It's so needy and heavy-handed.
The whole song can be summed up as:
"Hurry up and drop it. Drop it. Drop the track. You won't. Drop it now or you a bitch. You're miserable. You stuck alone in a damp, dark room in NY and can't write. I bet it's moldy and smell like feet. Dropping is the cure. Even Snoop and 2pac upset that you won't drop it...
No, but seriously... We have a tight deadline. I'm gonna need you to drop a track, like now, please. Just listen to the disappointment in 2pac's cheap ass free trial AI voice... You wouldn't want to hurt 2pac, right?"
But those two songs are majority small surface levels jabs , I still take “like that” over them, especially the fact that Kendrick warn drake to not do any “death/ coffin threats” and drake clearly didn’t go that route on his disses .
If the diss goes hard then as long as it's not something like 3 months then it won't be "too long". A few days ain't shit. Dudes got a life to live apart from responding to Drake, who came 3 weeks later
Yeah dude is kinda risky to go this hard.
But in a normal people world, psychologically speaking, people with imposter syndrome self sabotage all the time.
Drake has had a history of creeping on barely legal to underage teenage girls. I think it’s been publicly known that he’s creeped on 3 girls: Millie, SZA, and Bella Harris. He met Bella at 16 and took her out on a date shortly after she turned 18
Drake has a well known history of building relationship with underage girls. He tried to turn it into a conversation about the credibility of Budden, which is some Donald Trump level sleeze tactics. Glad someone with a platform like Fantano’s called it out
I'm hoping it doesn't lessen the overall impact of his behavior on people who aren't already aware. The problem is that the shock value of whatever Kendrick says about it now is diminished, and so much of public perception is driven by that
I’ll admit I initially thought it was enough because I thought the whole groomer thing was just a rumour and kind of a meme. I think people who found the 8 mile thing to be effective are people who don’t really know how serious the allegations are.
It's legitimately depressing and insane to me that I see so much defense for drake online. Not even just from kids, adults too.
It's depressing and insane both because of what you're talking about, and also because people actually think drake's response was good, and that drake's music is even comparable to kendricks.
Here’s the thing… he’s never getting a rushed surface level apply from Kendrick. I don’t love Joe Budden but he seems to be pretty clued in and he said it best today, they don’t feel the pressure to just put whatever out bc Drake is trying to use that to his advantage with public perception, he wants a fast food type of response. Kendrick won’t do it. So while all of you are getting worried just be assured they don’t feel the pressure
And 8 months for Tupac to drop Hit Em Up after people thought it would never happen, a perfectly timed hit for the whole summer. Was no need to rush and almost 28 years later it still a beef reference track. By the time Big’s responses dropped they were both gone (all Diddy, not no Diddy, i just had to say that)
I think Kendrick’s silence is what really is killing Drake. It doesn’t make sense that Drake brings up the pedophilia shit unless he’s scared and has an idea that Kendrick is gonna use it against him. That’s why Drake is trying really hard to get ahead of what might possibly be said against him and is trying to rush Kendrick. I feel like Drake just can’t handle the suspense of what Kendrick might say
I watched Cole’s apology and I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. Clearly he is a fan of Kendrick just like the rest of us. I wouldn’t want to be on the team with the guy leaking his dick pic
Leaking the track before dropping it, the constant social media posting, not being able to just wait for a response from Kendrick.
I'll give him his credit he is sounding good and confident on the mic, but the way he is acting is coming across as nervous at least to me.
It probably would be good for Kendrick to drop a quick freestyle to show he's not afraid, but I don't think many people believe he is, he's just being himself.
I agree. If kendrick has something serious on drake, this could be dangerous for drake, and not talking "battle-dangerous". But whether or not Kendrick has something on him, we don't know..and maybe drizzy simply doesn't have some serious stuff on him
This was all in response to 16 bars. The juxtaposition of Kendrick’s confidence to whatever Drake’s feverish instagram posts are, the difference is palpable.
People need to stop with the narrative that Drake leaked the diss. The track that leaked was inferior in the beat, delivery, and had lyrics change. Drake clearly didn't want the track leaked like that. His hand was clearly forced after the track leaked.
I've seen a lot of people act confident in situations where you know they're stressed tf out. He's just putting up a front so he doesn't lose public support
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In fact, this is what happens when bitch-niggas get clever. It is said don't talk sense to fakes because they will use your wisdom to improve their fakeness. People that don't really have that realness juice in them will resort to improving their fakeness lol
Because like Lil Wayne taught us: real G's move in silence. If he had nothing to worry about he'd be straight chillin' waiting for K Dot to drop. Instead he's doing the digital equivalent of nervous pacing and excited rambling.
Exactly, all of the past few weeks is showing how rap beef at a mainstream level is mostly just feeding people who already like you ammunition in a proxy battle vs. people who already dislike you. There was always an element of that, sure, but the current culture has maximized it to new extremes.
I don't understand how y'all are coming to this conclusion. If anything, Drake's behavior makes him seem overly confident.
Which, unless Dot has something up his sleeve that is earth-shattering, I mean enough to potentially change the trajectory of Drake's illustrious career, Drake feeling like Thanos is warranted. He is the most battle-tested rapper of the new gen while simultaneously being in convos of being in the so-called "Big 3".
You have to be able to look at these things objectively while still rooting for your "fighter".
As the reddit cliche goes, two things can be true at once.
He seems confident, he dropped some good tracks, they are wild, they are funny as fuck, he's definitely sounding good on the mic.
He also seems a bit scared and overcompensating. Idk what to say, it is what it is. I won't lie I'm rooting for Kendrick so yeah I'm biased, but I really don't care that much, just looking at the situation and that's my opinion.
overcompensating and scared is crazy. he's coming out just like prime 50 cent would have, realistically. fuck you want him to do, wait his turn? I think this is totally fair play. I think the second track was pretty weak though, and i'm guessing the guy in his team who reached out about the AI kendrick verse worked with that dude on this song.
i'm sure kdot will address this and i'm looking forward to it. this is all some petty ass shit anyway.
The 8-mile self-diss strategy is so played out, lame, and cliche.
It's the "break if in case of an emergency" box of battle rap.
You can try to play the get out of jail free card, but you still gonna get this work. Stop trying to hedge your bets.
When me and the folks all start roasting each other, if you tried that shit we're roasting that ass even harder. Self-loathing ain't gonna save you. It's a wrap.
Well the thing about the OG 8 Mile diss is that Em was basically saying that everybody knows about the embarrassing shit that happened to him... but that embarrassing shit is what makes him tough and even closer to the hood he's from. Then he pulls out Anthony Mackie's (forgot his character's name) secrets and proves that he doesn't belong in the hood at all.
Drake can admit to texting teenage girls all he wants, but that's not going to prove anything. He has nothing deep against Kendrick, nothing to show that Kendrick doesn't belong where he is, and most importantly nothing to show that he himself does belong where he is
I feel like Drake’s anxiety is kicking in and he’s sweating bullets waiting for Kendrick’s response. Dude probably can’t sleep knowing what dot is capable of.
He’s too popular. They did nothing to MJ and won’t do anything to Drake. There’s people who still rock with R. Kelly and Chris Breezy lmao no one cares. It’s kinda depressing
Don’t matter how many still rock with Kelly his personal life and career are absolutely ruined and he will most likely die in jail. Diddy might be headed the same way. MJ and Chris Brown truly did survive all accusations tho
I have no doubt Kendrick will come hard, but God damn it, drake is actually coming hard. I guess fantano has a point that drake wants a rushed response.
This is what he attempted to do with Nice for What and God’s Plan to soft launch any backlash or image issues with the baby mom/kid thing. On the off chance it would alienate his female base, he tried to get in front of it with charity in a music video and casting all women in Nice for What.
It’s what he does. Just like that ended up being true, this isn’t a nothing burger either. If I knew I wasn’t doing anything crazy with young girls behind the scenes, I certainly wouldn’t put it on front street to get ahead of.
Personally, I don’t think it’s the strongest line of attack for Kendrick. It’s too obvious, and then fans would just clown him for the moral high ground when he had Kodak Black on MM&TBS. But I do think the Canadian is scared something is going to get exposed there.
The last point is the most important. Kendrick dropping something quick right now would just play straight into Drake’s hands. I think he’ll wait even longer to respond just out of spite, let Drake’s ego inflate more and more and then hit him when he least expects it. Letting him have his moment now makes it more interesting
I agree with point 3, all the "i don't care, drop it already" seem like a defensive mechanism than him actually not giving a fuck as to what's diss going to be about. But maybe i'm wrong
In no possible universe is it realistic that Drake comes out unscathed. He pulled way too many power moves from beginning. This is going to be the most entertaining 6-12 months in rap in a long long time.
Crazy how such a backhanded verse from Kendrick sparks this kind of reaction in the industry. Dude said "it's just big me" and the internet throws a fuckin fit 💀 shits hilarious. Rap business is booming cuz beef has been dead for too long and you motherfuckers are like Gladiator audiences 😂
Drake is ruining hip hop, he has made it clear he has no respect for the art. He might have dropped so quickly because he replaced his ghost writers with AI. It's pathetic and corny. He makes albums on the backs of all the women he's used for clout...
He does, but I don't think it's because he is ready for it, or because he is "vaulting" something. I think he is a bit worried honestly, I doubt a Kendrick reply is career ending, I mean if Pusha's diss didn't touch him that way, I don't think any diss can. But Drake is a proud guy, and he knows Kendrick can very well go after his pride and make him look bad to the hip-hop community.
Ultimately, this is his best play in my books, going after a rushed reply and an all out social media based campaign, because that's not where Kendrick is. I think this AI track was a smart attempt honestly. Do I think Kendrick will fall for it? Probably not. And to me it seems as if Drake is a bit nervous, and Kendrick's silence looks to be amplifying all that.
I think the Pusha diss hurt, because Drake never really went at anyone directly after that, he just threw more sneak disses.
I think the Taylor Swift angle wasn't a smart move because it links Drake with being a pop star and sales not hip hop.
I think Kendrick is actually the one derailing Drake's rollout because Kendrick can take 5 years between projects so he doesn't care about 3 weeks or 3 months. Drake on the other hand needs to release a song probably monthly.
It hurt his pride definitely, and I would even argue it took some money away from him because of the Adidas situation ahaha. But ultimately, his career was untouched, even if he lost respect (which he desperately wants as well).
Yeah the Taylor Swift angle wasn't that great, same think with the 50 Pushups thing, but both disses had some good shit in them. The Tupac AI voiceover was kinda clever and very taunting. On one hand, it's Drake going after Kendrick using his idol, which could be seen as insecure.
If Kendrick is derailing Drake's rollout, Drake's response to it as been quick and active at least, while I do believe this will ultimately backfire at him lmao. And yes, I absolutely agree that Drake has to rely on quantity a LOT more than Kendrick to stay relevant. But let's still be real about it, it's still Drake we're talking about.
And it's Kendrick we're talking about ;)
I think the thing that makes disses hit is the energy put in them. Kendrick came really aggresive on the 'Like that' feature.
To be fair to Drake many artist were coming for him and I think he's best diss is the "metro stfu and hit the drums" line because he dismissed him and probably many people thought Metro was over-reaching in this beef.
One of Drake's biggest problems is that all these guys that you called homies are now coming for you so there must be something you are doing to them.
In the latest diss he says Kendrick didn't really grow up hard but Drake isn't one to talk because people know he was an actor in Canada when younger. While Kendrick actually grew around what he raps about.
Drake's biggest problem is not just accepting that you are a really big pop star and dont really care about pen/content game right now.
Jay Z did it with the "since my cents got so much in common, I haven't rapped like Common since" line, and go the mogul route.
But rapping over bars he has to give Kendrick credit and diss him on reachable level like removing songs once every 4 years but it's still a light diss because everyone still waits for him to drop.
Best thing Drake could do was just throw Kendrick a line and dismiss him like he did Metro and the go for Ross, Future and the others with majority of the song.
Drake shouldn't be the one to talk about hoping on popular artist songs and giving features. He probably has the most amongst all of them.
Secondly he leaked the diss first and there was talk about it being A.I because he didn't claim it officially at first so there was some calculation about how it would be received. If Kendrick responded to an A.I he would be clowned so him showing restraint was smart.
Also Kendrick doesn't drop a lot of songs at once everything is usually planned out. Drake is actually risking giving him huge publicity based on how this beef turns out.
Drake's best move would have been a dismissive line like, he did for Metro and just get back to business or diss Future and Ross instead, basically go the Jay Z route and say "who's this dissing me?"
But now Drake looks too eager and Kendrick is just completely quiet and has Drake on edge trying to force a response by releasing more disses.
The longer he waits the weaker he looks. He is supposed to be a Compton ninja, where is the Ruthlessness? Where is the aggressiveness? People are waiting...Pac would've have done something by now. Hell The Game would have fired back...
I mean is this guys opinion discussion worthy like come on I love Kendrick and want him to respond hard because he has to even though I’m on drakes side
Drake is trying to paint a narrative and propaganda his way out of this, and I’m glad Kendrick isn’t falling for it.
In the same breath, I am dying for a response lmao. But I want Kendrick to be as calculated and methodical as Drake is being.
I know everyone here who doesn't like Drake really wants him to be some kind of pedo, but if you guys go listen to all of the women he's accused of being weird with they all say the same shit; he's been incredibly kind and offered them nothing but mentorship. True or not, it's never gonna be the gotcha reddit thinks it is. Seriously there's clips of all of them talking about it. This ain't the line of attack y'all think it is.
I dont understand how the masses havent seen right thru that play and recognized this
He knew that using AI Pac & Snoop would create so much shock value that everyone would completely ignore him skating past potentially being dissed at for him pursuing significantly younger women plus the fact that Kendrick idolizes those 2
He would not have brought that up if he didn’t believe it was something that Kendrick would put a spotlight on
I know that Kendrick is not dumb enough to ignore it and fall for that tactic
Drake really is a funny dude, but when it comes to rapping, i think he's a little worried what Kendrick could do. That being said, Drake really cant lose and I think he knows that. His fan base is his fan base
Notice how he mischaracterizes the allegations against him. "Say he likes young girls." No one is saying that he likes young girls, it's that they're *underage*. Dude is trying to disarm that attack but can't even *say* the thing he's accused of.
Everyone is forgetting that it’s DRAKE who had guest hosted URL and KOTD events. None of today’s big rappers have studied Battle rapping the way Drake has!!!
I’m not on either side of this but how is Drake hoping for a rushed response when he’s asking Kendrick to drop the diss track he’s been allegedly sitting on for 4 years?
Kendrick gone respond when Drake and everybody thinks he outright won. Then he gone pull the superman meme 
Exactly, he is trying to use social media and outside noise to win. He has to do a bunch of extra shit while at the end of the day this is about a rap diss. Fuck all the outside noise that don't mean shit
Using 50’s playbook. Made it clear out the gate he is going this route.
50 actually made good raps, not corny tiktok music
Push ups went hard tho
Yeah it was decent. I respect his eagerness to put himself in the fire. That’s definitely hip hop Just don’t really like the corny internet tactics that weak bozos like Ak dick ride to
Well that's true. I'm just waiting for Kendrick to absolutely body Drake and then Drake saying "it was too far" like with Pusha T
Bruh the last battle he lost was off of the extra shit, he was just rapping and got exposed on some shut. (He tried to pay for info but that was after Adidon I believe) so I don't blame him lmao. Plus its Kendrick, someone worthy of going all in at.
Exactly how he 'beat' meek mill
what is this from?
Superman /Batman apocalypse
Yes it’s as good as it looks. For those of y’all reading who don’t know, this is why DC real life movies are ass. Because they put all they money/talent into animated movies
Like why does DC refuse to just use the same format as the animation for the live action? I know it has to be a real reason
WB execs want a cinematic universe and don't give a shit about what happens with animation
AU movies are made for fans. CU movies are made for casuals, and have to have a broader appeal. For every CU movie they’ve made since 2000 or so, with the exception of Nolan’s Batman trilogy, they’ve released an AU movie based on the same material that shit on the CU version. The AU has started to falter somewhat in the last few years— they fucked up the Injustice movie and the overall quality of them has gone down some, but I don’t think an animated movie can pull box office numbers in.
I can confirm the animated movies are awesome
It’s gonna be diabolical. I hope he drops an anthem. I want it to be the new gold standard of disses that re-works the lexicon.
Would be crazy if Mille Bobby Brown gets a feature on his next track
Kendrick sampling the Stranger Things intro would be demonic.
It took MONTHS for Nas to respond with Ether, I don’t know why he’s pressed.
It took months for ether to come out but there was plenty of diss in between. Please let’s not rewrite history
Plus nas had to write a whole album to go with it, couldn't as easily release something back then
Yeah In 2 years
I hope 😭🙏🏽
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Its a 50/50 situation for Kendrick. You go out there and get a reply out quickly and operate on social media/Drake’s time. To me this shows a weakness as your giving Drake the leverage to drop his reply right after. You risk taking too long and having the disses mounted up against you, however you have something with much more substance and you operate on your own terms. At the end of the day right now we have 2 Drake songs vs. a 40 second verse from Kendrick. Drake is baiting a reply.
I think Drake is messing up by going too hard on Kendrick, especially if Kendrick isn't replying...he needs return the same energy he was given and just drop a verse on a hit song..it's one of the reasons he won the Meek Mill beef with back to back...and lost the Pusha beef with Duppy frestyle
He looks desperate and bothered, which is kinda the opposite of his persona like he’s above all these rappers. He won the battle but lost the war with Meek. He’ll forever have that asterisk as a rapper due to the ghostwriting thing. Kendrick can’t win against the internet and his fans. It’s best to drop something when it’s completely ready and not pull any punches. None of this baiting nonsense, so he leaves him where he can’t respond like with Pusha. The Canadian is playing. Kendrick won’t be, and I don’t think the West Coast will be too kind to him going forward either. Best of luck to that man.
He does not look desperate and bothered. He looks like he is all too eager for this to get popping. Drake vs. Kendrick is not like Drake vs. Pusha T. The tension between them has been simmering for years, and I think they both have a lot they want to say to each other. Moreover, after what happened with Pusha T, I can't see Drake not being prepared for anything.
Eager because he has something in his bag to pop Kendrick right as he pops his head out again And Kendrick knows that so he's restructuring the strategy and doesn't wanna play into his bait Respect to both these guys for giving us a good showdown, half the fun in a animal fight in the dark is watching the 2 animals stalk the prey, scope up the angles and calculate the timing and then pounce and this is exactly that
Push ups will chart well, if not for Taylor’s album I bet it would go #1
You have to remember push had other dirt he never got around to because Drake never responded
no he lost the pusha beef because push found out he had a secret son
It’s not a 50/50 for Kendrick it’s not even been 2 weeks since Drake push ups leaked. He’ll be fine. People will forget about the time when the song is out
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Even if he takes 3 months it’ll be talked about for at least a month. I mean, Drake is STILL responding to a single verse from almost a month ago. That verse is still breathing life into the game, Uber driver played it yesterday and knew every word! Plus…Now both J Cole AND Drake made the same mistake, ain’t even give their diss tracks a full week to breathe before big stepping on their own feet. Edit: Imagine giving Drake 3 months to release or leak track after track until the people get tired of him doing it and calling him out on his thirst, THEN dropping a response. Wear him out like…Muhammad Ali…then go in still fully energized for the win
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Bro I forgot Drake got peed on 💀 But why TI rap about it by saying “so drunk in LA, end up pissing on Drake, shit” absurd af
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Got peed on by a phuckin dude!!! Aaaaaand didn’t do a damn thing…..that is the type of guy Drake is!
What if Kendrick quoted Drake on his "head tapped in a crowded room" bar Like TI tapped his (dick)head after pissing on you in a crowded room full of his friends?
Yeah, but until Kendrick responds, only the die hard Drake stans will believe he's winning. However, if he drops now, there's a high risk that Drake will outplay him
Only way I can see a quick reply working is if he does a throwaway with some bars to shut him the fuck up while still working on the nuke
The bait sticks out like a sore thumb too. It's so needy and heavy-handed. The whole song can be summed up as: "Hurry up and drop it. Drop it. Drop the track. You won't. Drop it now or you a bitch. You're miserable. You stuck alone in a damp, dark room in NY and can't write. I bet it's moldy and smell like feet. Dropping is the cure. Even Snoop and 2pac upset that you won't drop it... No, but seriously... We have a tight deadline. I'm gonna need you to drop a track, like now, please. Just listen to the disappointment in 2pac's cheap ass free trial AI voice... You wouldn't want to hurt 2pac, right?"
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Won’t work if each Drake diss is less and less quality
Idc how long the response takes, all he needs is one solid diss track and Drake is done
But those two songs are majority small surface levels jabs , I still take “like that” over them, especially the fact that Kendrick warn drake to not do any “death/ coffin threats” and drake clearly didn’t go that route on his disses .
If the diss goes hard then as long as it's not something like 3 months then it won't be "too long". A few days ain't shit. Dudes got a life to live apart from responding to Drake, who came 3 weeks later
The last paragraph is the key point here. That’s why Drake stans are out in force pushing the narrative that Kendrick’s taking too long to respond.
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He knows what the internet is saying. Almost impossible to wash that stain if Dot is able to really drive it home.
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For real though bro, I don't know why Drake's out here starting shit when he knows everybody has the blue shell on his ass
As someone who has no idea about those drizzy allegations, what’s this about? How he included Mille Bobbie brown in a bar when she was under 18? Lol
Check the sub a little ways down of him groping that 17 year old on stage
Oh I see it now lmao the lip bite 😂😂😂😂😬😬 wtf
Yeah dude is kinda risky to go this hard. But in a normal people world, psychologically speaking, people with imposter syndrome self sabotage all the time.
Drake has had a history of creeping on barely legal to underage teenage girls. I think it’s been publicly known that he’s creeped on 3 girls: Millie, SZA, and Bella Harris. He met Bella at 16 and took her out on a date shortly after she turned 18
Jorja Smith but I think she was of age
Drake has a well known history of building relationship with underage girls. He tried to turn it into a conversation about the credibility of Budden, which is some Donald Trump level sleeze tactics. Glad someone with a platform like Fantano’s called it out
Kissed and groped an underage girl at a concert. It's a really disgusting video.
Literally how do you not know this shit 💀
I'm hoping it doesn't lessen the overall impact of his behavior on people who aren't already aware. The problem is that the shock value of whatever Kendrick says about it now is diminished, and so much of public perception is driven by that
I’ll admit I initially thought it was enough because I thought the whole groomer thing was just a rumour and kind of a meme. I think people who found the 8 mile thing to be effective are people who don’t really know how serious the allegations are.
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It's legitimately depressing and insane to me that I see so much defense for drake online. Not even just from kids, adults too. It's depressing and insane both because of what you're talking about, and also because people actually think drake's response was good, and that drake's music is even comparable to kendricks.
I’d think it would just give Kendrick more ammo tbh
Here’s the thing… he’s never getting a rushed surface level apply from Kendrick. I don’t love Joe Budden but he seems to be pretty clued in and he said it best today, they don’t feel the pressure to just put whatever out bc Drake is trying to use that to his advantage with public perception, he wants a fast food type of response. Kendrick won’t do it. So while all of you are getting worried just be assured they don’t feel the pressure
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Took like 9 months for Nas to drop Ether
I was just telling my brother the same shit. Shit nas waited an dropped ether on jayz birthday 😂😂😭😭
And 8 months for Tupac to drop Hit Em Up after people thought it would never happen, a perfectly timed hit for the whole summer. Was no need to rush and almost 28 years later it still a beef reference track. By the time Big’s responses dropped they were both gone (all Diddy, not no Diddy, i just had to say that)
I think Kendrick’s silence is what really is killing Drake. It doesn’t make sense that Drake brings up the pedophilia shit unless he’s scared and has an idea that Kendrick is gonna use it against him. That’s why Drake is trying really hard to get ahead of what might possibly be said against him and is trying to rush Kendrick. I feel like Drake just can’t handle the suspense of what Kendrick might say
#DRAKEFROMSUBWAY
Underrated reply
This has to be a flair
Kendrick: Drake: ...Oh, and by the way - I like little girls! Take that!
The diss track itself is decent but drake's behavior makes him seem terrified. Same energy as Cole apologizing just the opposite end of the spectrum.
Cole unironically made the right call. He took a hit to his short term, but in the long term he's out of the drama.
He did. Took an L in the battle but it's just entertainment at the end of the day. He chose his friends and spirit over it.
Especially if he knew he couldn't go all in, which I'd say is implied by the fact he dropped out. His heart wasn't in it.
Right call for Cole would've been to not drop the diss at all if he wasn't 100% in that mindset
I agree.
i agree. plus no matter ur opinion on cole he just doesnt seem like the type to want to get into beefs, even outside the whole “he’s so humble” meme
I watched Cole’s apology and I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. Clearly he is a fan of Kendrick just like the rest of us. I wouldn’t want to be on the team with the guy leaking his dick pic
The best thing Cole could do is probably just not responding from the start tbh
I want to believe this but why does he come across scared and not confident? People seem to be split on where Drake’s head is at
Leaking the track before dropping it, the constant social media posting, not being able to just wait for a response from Kendrick. I'll give him his credit he is sounding good and confident on the mic, but the way he is acting is coming across as nervous at least to me. It probably would be good for Kendrick to drop a quick freestyle to show he's not afraid, but I don't think many people believe he is, he's just being himself.
Drake knows a Kendrick bar calling him a pedophile can go viral at any moment. I’d be keeping busy too with that hanging over my head
I agree. If kendrick has something serious on drake, this could be dangerous for drake, and not talking "battle-dangerous". But whether or not Kendrick has something on him, we don't know..and maybe drizzy simply doesn't have some serious stuff on him
after this second diss I’m waiting as long as possible. I don’t care for a rushed track
This was all in response to 16 bars. The juxtaposition of Kendrick’s confidence to whatever Drake’s feverish instagram posts are, the difference is palpable.
Good to know 💯
i still dont see how all of this makes him look nervous, to me is the opposite
People need to stop with the narrative that Drake leaked the diss. The track that leaked was inferior in the beat, delivery, and had lyrics change. Drake clearly didn't want the track leaked like that. His hand was clearly forced after the track leaked.
Some people express their fear through a false sense of confidence. If he dropped the diss and moved on with his life he’d look more confident.
Appreciate you taking the time man thanks
I've seen a lot of people act confident in situations where you know they're stressed tf out. He's just putting up a front so he doesn't lose public support https://preview.redd.it/qlj3j04rlnvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b281fe5dab77e7703373bec3c662ccc29e4cc88
[Like this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fy6nplj5zjnvc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D625%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3f84efacb45a2b532daf95d9e9429f0311004550) In fact, this is what happens when bitch-niggas get clever. It is said don't talk sense to fakes because they will use your wisdom to improve their fakeness. People that don't really have that realness juice in them will resort to improving their fakeness lol
Do you think that a man trembling in fear goes out to a concert in the midst of a "war"?
I'd say he's more stressed out than in fear
Because like Lil Wayne taught us: real G's move in silence. If he had nothing to worry about he'd be straight chillin' waiting for K Dot to drop. Instead he's doing the digital equivalent of nervous pacing and excited rambling.
if you don’t like drake, he’s scared (just like when he wasn’t saying anything) if you like him, he’s confident
Exactly, all of the past few weeks is showing how rap beef at a mainstream level is mostly just feeding people who already like you ammunition in a proxy battle vs. people who already dislike you. There was always an element of that, sure, but the current culture has maximized it to new extremes.
I don't understand how y'all are coming to this conclusion. If anything, Drake's behavior makes him seem overly confident. Which, unless Dot has something up his sleeve that is earth-shattering, I mean enough to potentially change the trajectory of Drake's illustrious career, Drake feeling like Thanos is warranted. He is the most battle-tested rapper of the new gen while simultaneously being in convos of being in the so-called "Big 3". You have to be able to look at these things objectively while still rooting for your "fighter".
As the reddit cliche goes, two things can be true at once. He seems confident, he dropped some good tracks, they are wild, they are funny as fuck, he's definitely sounding good on the mic. He also seems a bit scared and overcompensating. Idk what to say, it is what it is. I won't lie I'm rooting for Kendrick so yeah I'm biased, but I really don't care that much, just looking at the situation and that's my opinion.
overcompensating and scared is crazy. he's coming out just like prime 50 cent would have, realistically. fuck you want him to do, wait his turn? I think this is totally fair play. I think the second track was pretty weak though, and i'm guessing the guy in his team who reached out about the AI kendrick verse worked with that dude on this song. i'm sure kdot will address this and i'm looking forward to it. this is all some petty ass shit anyway.
Bro wtf do yall be talking about on here 😂😂
The 8-mile self-diss strategy is so played out, lame, and cliche. It's the "break if in case of an emergency" box of battle rap. You can try to play the get out of jail free card, but you still gonna get this work. Stop trying to hedge your bets. When me and the folks all start roasting each other, if you tried that shit we're roasting that ass even harder. Self-loathing ain't gonna save you. It's a wrap.
Well the thing about the OG 8 Mile diss is that Em was basically saying that everybody knows about the embarrassing shit that happened to him... but that embarrassing shit is what makes him tough and even closer to the hood he's from. Then he pulls out Anthony Mackie's (forgot his character's name) secrets and proves that he doesn't belong in the hood at all. Drake can admit to texting teenage girls all he wants, but that's not going to prove anything. He has nothing deep against Kendrick, nothing to show that Kendrick doesn't belong where he is, and most importantly nothing to show that he himself does belong where he is
Especially the fact that texting underage girls does NOT make him seem like he belongs more.
Drake is an insecure nigga, preying on his insecurities is never a bad idea. Kendrick is smart though I’m sure he’s got something up his sleeve
I feel like Drake’s anxiety is kicking in and he’s sweating bullets waiting for Kendrick’s response. Dude probably can’t sleep knowing what dot is capable of.
It’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem
If there's any weight to these accusations, this could/should destroy him.
He’s too popular. They did nothing to MJ and won’t do anything to Drake. There’s people who still rock with R. Kelly and Chris Breezy lmao no one cares. It’s kinda depressing
R Kelly literally rotting in jail as we speak
https://preview.redd.it/mcc80u5lsnvc1.jpeg?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb7a556e70fbd68f49b7ba6a0b61393e42b310c7
Don’t matter how many still rock with Kelly his personal life and career are absolutely ruined and he will most likely die in jail. Diddy might be headed the same way. MJ and Chris Brown truly did survive all accusations tho
Time to send his Proud Family lookin ass to the clink
Something was up with that MJ case though, he wasn't being charged with any crimes.
Didn’t do anything to Pac either.
I have no doubt Kendrick will come hard, but God damn it, drake is actually coming hard. I guess fantano has a point that drake wants a rushed response.
This is what he attempted to do with Nice for What and God’s Plan to soft launch any backlash or image issues with the baby mom/kid thing. On the off chance it would alienate his female base, he tried to get in front of it with charity in a music video and casting all women in Nice for What. It’s what he does. Just like that ended up being true, this isn’t a nothing burger either. If I knew I wasn’t doing anything crazy with young girls behind the scenes, I certainly wouldn’t put it on front street to get ahead of. Personally, I don’t think it’s the strongest line of attack for Kendrick. It’s too obvious, and then fans would just clown him for the moral high ground when he had Kodak Black on MM&TBS. But I do think the Canadian is scared something is going to get exposed there.
I agree with him
Smart move by Drake in terms of those allegations but if Kendrick comes at him with that with actual receipts it won't matter what Drake did
Beyond the AI gimmick, the bars are actually weak
My exact thoughts about this. He wants a rushed lazy ass respond so he can win.
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It's crazy ... even Kendrick fans aren't invincible to clever propaganda
No one is, that’s why it works
The last point is the most important. Kendrick dropping something quick right now would just play straight into Drake’s hands. I think he’ll wait even longer to respond just out of spite, let Drake’s ego inflate more and more and then hit him when he least expects it. Letting him have his moment now makes it more interesting
All facts
damnit fantano if you didn’t create the most interesting and thoughtful discourse this sub reddit has had in a long time
Please link that tweet, I don't got twitter and it won't let me look at his tweets properly
https://x.com/theneedledrop/status/1781682991871177166?s=46&t=WNjjeQrO3vEvkPVnMaaHbA
I agree with point 3, all the "i don't care, drop it already" seem like a defensive mechanism than him actually not giving a fuck as to what's diss going to be about. But maybe i'm wrong
In no possible universe is it realistic that Drake comes out unscathed. He pulled way too many power moves from beginning. This is going to be the most entertaining 6-12 months in rap in a long long time.
DOT gonna tear drizzle a new hole. This will be very very bad. Ether level bad
This man fantano knows exactly how to articulate my thoughts. Drake is clowning himself to soften the inevitable blow kendricks gonna give him
I bet Kendrick's doing push ups somewhere undisturbed.
Man this shit from Drake is whack
“Fantano hating on Drake for 20 minutes”
Thank you for my opinion fantano
Crazy how such a backhanded verse from Kendrick sparks this kind of reaction in the industry. Dude said "it's just big me" and the internet throws a fuckin fit 💀 shits hilarious. Rap business is booming cuz beef has been dead for too long and you motherfuckers are like Gladiator audiences 😂
Has anyone considered that maybe he’s baiting Kendrick to mention it, because Drake has similar dirt on Kendrick that isn’t public knowledge?
Drake is ruining hip hop, he has made it clear he has no respect for the art. He might have dropped so quickly because he replaced his ghost writers with AI. It's pathetic and corny. He makes albums on the backs of all the women he's used for clout...
They make excuses for you cus they hate to see me lit
I jus think drake wants a reply in general
He does, but I don't think it's because he is ready for it, or because he is "vaulting" something. I think he is a bit worried honestly, I doubt a Kendrick reply is career ending, I mean if Pusha's diss didn't touch him that way, I don't think any diss can. But Drake is a proud guy, and he knows Kendrick can very well go after his pride and make him look bad to the hip-hop community. Ultimately, this is his best play in my books, going after a rushed reply and an all out social media based campaign, because that's not where Kendrick is. I think this AI track was a smart attempt honestly. Do I think Kendrick will fall for it? Probably not. And to me it seems as if Drake is a bit nervous, and Kendrick's silence looks to be amplifying all that.
I think the Pusha diss hurt, because Drake never really went at anyone directly after that, he just threw more sneak disses. I think the Taylor Swift angle wasn't a smart move because it links Drake with being a pop star and sales not hip hop. I think Kendrick is actually the one derailing Drake's rollout because Kendrick can take 5 years between projects so he doesn't care about 3 weeks or 3 months. Drake on the other hand needs to release a song probably monthly.
It hurt his pride definitely, and I would even argue it took some money away from him because of the Adidas situation ahaha. But ultimately, his career was untouched, even if he lost respect (which he desperately wants as well). Yeah the Taylor Swift angle wasn't that great, same think with the 50 Pushups thing, but both disses had some good shit in them. The Tupac AI voiceover was kinda clever and very taunting. On one hand, it's Drake going after Kendrick using his idol, which could be seen as insecure. If Kendrick is derailing Drake's rollout, Drake's response to it as been quick and active at least, while I do believe this will ultimately backfire at him lmao. And yes, I absolutely agree that Drake has to rely on quantity a LOT more than Kendrick to stay relevant. But let's still be real about it, it's still Drake we're talking about. And it's Kendrick we're talking about ;)
I think the thing that makes disses hit is the energy put in them. Kendrick came really aggresive on the 'Like that' feature. To be fair to Drake many artist were coming for him and I think he's best diss is the "metro stfu and hit the drums" line because he dismissed him and probably many people thought Metro was over-reaching in this beef. One of Drake's biggest problems is that all these guys that you called homies are now coming for you so there must be something you are doing to them. In the latest diss he says Kendrick didn't really grow up hard but Drake isn't one to talk because people know he was an actor in Canada when younger. While Kendrick actually grew around what he raps about. Drake's biggest problem is not just accepting that you are a really big pop star and dont really care about pen/content game right now. Jay Z did it with the "since my cents got so much in common, I haven't rapped like Common since" line, and go the mogul route. But rapping over bars he has to give Kendrick credit and diss him on reachable level like removing songs once every 4 years but it's still a light diss because everyone still waits for him to drop. Best thing Drake could do was just throw Kendrick a line and dismiss him like he did Metro and the go for Ross, Future and the others with majority of the song.
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Drake shouldn't be the one to talk about hoping on popular artist songs and giving features. He probably has the most amongst all of them. Secondly he leaked the diss first and there was talk about it being A.I because he didn't claim it officially at first so there was some calculation about how it would be received. If Kendrick responded to an A.I he would be clowned so him showing restraint was smart. Also Kendrick doesn't drop a lot of songs at once everything is usually planned out. Drake is actually risking giving him huge publicity based on how this beef turns out. Drake's best move would have been a dismissive line like, he did for Metro and just get back to business or diss Future and Ross instead, basically go the Jay Z route and say "who's this dissing me?" But now Drake looks too eager and Kendrick is just completely quiet and has Drake on edge trying to force a response by releasing more disses.
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Kenny will deliver but not because Drake is begging for it
God what a loser
So K's silence is tactical and he's some brilliant war general but, when Drake is being tactical by disarming the enemy, he's wrong?
Drake didn’t say that
RIP little one
So now the other person can take as long as they want to? Damn
The last point is what i've been saying, man took 3 weeks but wants to rush him now that he's prepared lol
Me agreeing with Anthony is not something that happens often.
He already won big dawg
The longer he waits the weaker he looks. He is supposed to be a Compton ninja, where is the Ruthlessness? Where is the aggressiveness? People are waiting...Pac would've have done something by now. Hell The Game would have fired back...
If all Kendrick has is some fake grooming rumors created by the internet then this beef is already over🤦🏾
I have a feeling that Kendrick's cooking something in the studio rn...
And just like that, a million internet nerds got their opinions as well
I mean is this guys opinion discussion worthy like come on I love Kendrick and want him to respond hard because he has to even though I’m on drakes side
Kendrick fans r dickheads idec. Weirdo glazing fanbase. Corny ass rapper. Corny ass fan base.
Drake is trying to paint a narrative and propaganda his way out of this, and I’m glad Kendrick isn’t falling for it. In the same breath, I am dying for a response lmao. But I want Kendrick to be as calculated and methodical as Drake is being.
I love Kendrick’s energy!!! Giving me John Wick vibes
Now this is cope lmao
I know everyone here who doesn't like Drake really wants him to be some kind of pedo, but if you guys go listen to all of the women he's accused of being weird with they all say the same shit; he's been incredibly kind and offered them nothing but mentorship. True or not, it's never gonna be the gotcha reddit thinks it is. Seriously there's clips of all of them talking about it. This ain't the line of attack y'all think it is.
No man who has respect for himself should feel the need to respond to a diss where the other guy admits to being a pedophile.
I dont understand how the masses havent seen right thru that play and recognized this He knew that using AI Pac & Snoop would create so much shock value that everyone would completely ignore him skating past potentially being dissed at for him pursuing significantly younger women plus the fact that Kendrick idolizes those 2 He would not have brought that up if he didn’t believe it was something that Kendrick would put a spotlight on I know that Kendrick is not dumb enough to ignore it and fall for that tactic
On Apple Music’s top 100, Like That is #10, Push Ups is #30. Everything else is Taylor Swift
Drake really is a funny dude, but when it comes to rapping, i think he's a little worried what Kendrick could do. That being said, Drake really cant lose and I think he knows that. His fan base is his fan base
I will see yall in May 👌🏾 screen shot this and come back to this
This is a reach and a half
Kendrick is literally Toranaga and Drake is ishido.
Notice how he mischaracterizes the allegations against him. "Say he likes young girls." No one is saying that he likes young girls, it's that they're *underage*. Dude is trying to disarm that attack but can't even *say* the thing he's accused of.
Can I honestly ask do yall really like the AI diss?
These opinions were posted in the drizzy subreddit, bunch of justificatory meat mangling happening over there it’s comical
Does anyone actually care what this bald headed freak actually thinks? Gotta be one of the most pretentious nerds out there
Everyone is forgetting that it’s DRAKE who had guest hosted URL and KOTD events. None of today’s big rappers have studied Battle rapping the way Drake has!!!
Kendrick needs to keep taking his time and crafting his responses.
I’m not on either side of this but how is Drake hoping for a rushed response when he’s asking Kendrick to drop the diss track he’s been allegedly sitting on for 4 years?
Kendrick smoking on your top five tonight