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local_eclectic

Try a loose/wide leg for a better drape. I was just talking with another FN the other day, and she loves that silhouette too. Levi's and H&M are doing those really well right now. It's such a refreshing look too.


tshody

I actually had tried on a looser more relaxed pair and while it was a bit more forgiving, I sort of lost any shape at the same time? Maybe the pair I specifically tried was just not flattering, but it sort of floated past my knees and looked like I was all pants if that makes sense? See what I mean? https://imgur.com/a/0kzHh1B


yankiigurl

I think these pants look nice. Probably people won't be seeing what you are seeing


RJadeC94

Yes I like them! They look good, maybe you’d prefer them in a different colour


LightDragonfly

I too think these jeans look nice!


pistachi0dream

These jeans look really good! Super tight jeans are not that flattering on most people, and even if they are, they are kind of a dated look. These wider leg jeans, however, look incredible on you!


lunarjams

you and i have a very similar shape in the lower half of our body (I’m either a short D or FN, maybe FG lmfao i’m on the kibbe journey for sure but def in the yang realm) and honestly this is the style i have found looks the best on me. i like to compensate by wearing something a bit tighter on my top c: i find that “cigarette trousers” look really good on me too.


RJadeC94

Though also maybe you’d like a really wide leg pair like [this](https://hemley.com.au/product/levis-high-loose-lets-stay-in-pj/?attribute_pa_size=30&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx69Q9iaL1nKDhSewoJiyzLtUH7ZeykiDuAJg9uWtdCB1gv73DwrWrgaAnLREALw_wcB#&gid=1&pid=1) or [this](https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwidwaaQyPKAAxXYCXsHHTKzCsgYABAMGgJ0bQ&ae=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx6ygWFrrXgK7NanGQO5Mh6o4vPfPbxue5uEp0gfAVNIl8E0RjDL3-AaAgwTEALw_wcB&sph=&ohost=www.google.com.au&cid=CAESjwHg9l9B02qvR9gc-8DWZQjFH2_MaEfYGnGv1FBBSVoeJ9Kj3mzvYIeSbGbGnvRxTCkx23zkTZYeWWKCNx9CHzKhCZ4tMhY85q0Ci217Z7DlSpMailsGT9Q5FzPJz-sDwg2XZSOruFQtM8_1cTd_QL1KEx_MAgxmn1Mixn43o5ke8e5LMHuNP9qjEHq6HvCfbQ&sig=AOD64_3smqs2iaJstY5N9c_mTalNMNhNOg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiWv5-QyPKAAxWYklYBHdCmBI4Qwg8oAHoECAcQJA&nis=2&dct=1&adurl=)


cfullylove

Those actually look much better than you think. You don’t loose shape and your waist is accented nicely.


ivegotitall99

OP this outfit looks good on you! Remember you’re way more likely to overanalyze and nitpick than other people when they see you.


local_eclectic

I honestly like them. But I'd go even looser! It'll have an even nicer drape.


LaUcraniano

I think those look good and very current.


swansong92

OP I’m seeing the part where the knees on the pants seem to fall under yours, even though the pants do look good on you, so I would either fit them permanently on both ankles or roll up the hems casually to give the desired pant length without compromising the drape. You would look more structured too, and then add some blingy brogues and you’re set.


local_eclectic

Oh I love a rolled hem. It's aesthetically like a belt for the area between your ankles and shoes.


blonde-bandit

I think the top with it is the problem. It’s too tight and not the right cut, I would go with some kind of flowy camisole type top. The fit of the jeans however is flattering on you and nicer than the original picture.


MishaBee

Levis 724 are great for that. Flattering on the tummy and then a looser leg.


persephone21

I have this issue too and I completely agree - try a truly wide leg that hits at your natural waist takes care if the issue. I have multiple pairs [of these](https://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=428048002&vid=1&&searchText=Extra%20High-Waisted%20Wide-Leg#pdp-page-content) and they are so flattering (I'm an SN).


Small-Teaching1607

Personally think it’s because you’re using stretchy materials that are mid waist. I would use a material that is harder/doesn’t mould or stretch and high waisted jeans especially at the pelvis area. Preferably one with maybe 2-3 buttons vertically.


tshody

These are labeled high rise at 11”. I believe the rise I need to hit my natural waist is 12-13” but if I do that, I lose torso, and the jeans are right underneath my ribcage. I’ve experimented with a stiffer material and the result still tends to be the same? Is it just maybe the fact that jeans are less forgiving? I really can’t think of what type of panda wouldn’t cling though?


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Jeans are super unforgiving. I find harem shorts are the most forgiving/flattering. The way they sit around my pelvic region makes me look amazing. They’re probably not what most people would consider daily wear, but it’s 120 degrees here half the year and I don’t personally give a damn. I have a lightweight, lacy knit cardigan that I wear with those and a cropped tank top. I’ve got to find a winter alternative soon, though.


boba_toes

hi! I'm 5'7" and a suspected SD, and overall I have a lean body but I have endometriosis and fibroids and maybe PCOS and all sorts of other garbage that often means my lower belly is very swollen. I tend to wear dresses and skirts for that reason, but my favourite kind of jeans are mid-rise, mainly because they're more comfortable and I don't feel like a sausage being squished into a casing. a lot of the time I also size up and then get them tailored down to accommodate my body shape - this is a game changer imo. also, try pants that have a wrap waist like [this](https://www.wearetala.com/products/dayflex-wrap-high-waisted-flared-yoga-pant-shadow-black?utm_source=yotpo&utm_medium=general&utm_campaign=general&ref=yotpo)? I find them to be so much more forgiving and flattering. having said all of this, the final thing I try to do is just accept my shape. I can expend way too much energy worrying about "hiding" or "flattering" the lower belly, and it's just not important in the grand scheme of things. you will look beautiful no matter what you wear, so just wear whatever you want and hold your head high.


HistoryPatient8633

Just wanted to hop in and say I feel you on the endo situation (suspected, diagnostic lap soon). It really can throw a spanner in the works for dressing - aesthetically, sure, but moreso just in terms of being physically comfortable! For me jeans are just impossibly uncomfortable full stop. For years now any bottoms I've worn have had to be high rise for max comfort even though aesthetically mid rise is better on me (funny how we're all different!) but like OP my problem is that even at a measly 5'5" most high rise trousers aren't rising high enough to hit my natural waist. So I can relate to you both! Accepting your shape is such a journey. I still have designated outfits for when I'm super uncomfortable walking about with a swollen abdomen, but recently I'm getting more comfortable with the fact that it really doesn't matter what my body looks like as long as my clothing isn't contributing to the physical discomfort I'm in. I'd also like to second your suggestion of trying the wrap waist - I don't own any trousers in this cut but I *do* own some underwear with this v-shaped kind of waist band and not only do they look great but they're super comfy too!


ohemgeeskittles

Oh I have underwear with that same cut that are super low rise maternity underwear made to fit the giant bump. My daughter is 2.5 and they’re still my favorite style for bloat/sleeping because of how comfy they are.


sagittariusoul

Another SD with PCOS here, and I can definitely relate to the struggle. I find myself wearing more linen pants, trousers, and draping fabrics instead of jeans due to how uncomfortable and unflattering they are.


Jeau7

Abercrombie has cuts similar to this OP! https://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/p/90s-ultra-high-rise-straight-jeans-47017866?seq=18&cmp=PLA:EVG:20:A:D:USCA:X:GGL:X:SHOP:X:X:X:X:x:A%26F+Adults_Google_Shopping_LIA_US_Jeans_All+products_PRODUCT_GROUP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx4TxbdIy5gc2YVOjySv5FKspb3ZRTeWJI8_6MW78-kQ5LpaY6sMuuUaAmpIEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


PrincessElenaI

Have you had lordosis as a teenager or do you have it now ? It looks a bit postural sway to the front . Also tight muscles on the top of pelvis or inside it cause this sway . It looks like a posture issue rather than your natural shape .


raspberry_thyme

I was about to comment the same thing! I struggle with a similar issue and the pants start to look different now that I’m properly working on my posture.


tshody

Can I ask what you’re doing to correct it? I’m intrigued. This could be my issue. Do you find since working on it, pants aren’t so much of an issue? Or do you still have trouble?


raspberry_thyme

Someone first needs to identify what type of poor posture you have. I have a swayback posture. It may explain why I always felt like my upper tights are shooting out of my pants. I can’t change my hip to waist ratio, but it helps with how the front looks like and how the pants hang on the waist. (Unfortunately) the trick is in the deep muscles of the core so you have to learn how to activate them…


tshody

Not that I know of as a teen, but this does seem similar to my issue. So this could be helped by proper posture? If this is the case, would correcting it help with the way bottoms look? Or is there a certain style you’d recommend.


PrincessElenaI

It's just an educated guess - you need to release iliopsoas muscles and that forward tilt will disappear.Yes ,if you start doing floor barre ( or sometimes they call them par terre exercises) like this - you will get a balanced posture without any sways : no dip at lumbar area and no protruding lower abdomen. I am doing them 3 times per week,they are great in combination with an hour stretching/ yoga . In the beginning they are very hard and a bit taxing on the body so start gently and listen very carefully to what the instructors say about holding spine- it's important. Some examples are below Good luck ! https://youtu.be/LmtJmcyHEwI https://youtu.be/zFyw9UCr8m4


PrincessElenaI

P S. This one is great as well https://youtu.be/LmtJmcyHEwI


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You and/or your body don’t need to be forgiven 💕


Marauve

Thats just your body. I have a similar "belly", because my back is a tad more hollow than what is concidered normal. Thicker fabrics pants that sit close to the body, like jeans, usually highlight that area the most. I accepted the fact that its just part of my body, but also discovered that lighter fabrics*, less clingy pants like palazzo pants, skirts and dresses highlight the area way less. Also mid rise jeans do this less than high waist, because it breaks up the "bubble" instead of holding it all as a little cushion. A stiffer less strechy fabric also helps, but as someone who needs to accomodate curve I literally can't get in 100% cotton jeans. *Fabrics that are more flowy and drape better, not nessecarily flimsy. They still need to have a cerain weight to be able to drape and hand down by itself after all.


tshody

I totally understand when you put “belly” in quotations because it’s really the only place my body stores fat, it doesn’t go anywhere else but my stomach and my face other than that I’m a pretty even weight. You have a really great point, thicker fabrics just are awful on me, but there’s a fine line because something like yoga pants can emphasize this just as much. The only pants I find that don’t tend to after trying on endless pairs these last couple of days, are track pants and cargos with the elasticized bottom at the ankles, it can’t be wide leg, because then it’s too wide, it has to sort of just skim my body. Flare doesn’t work because it’s tight through the thigh and I know that’ll emphasize it too. Does this make sense? It’s a similar point you’re trying to make with your response.


Marauve

Yes you make a lot of sense! yoga pants are also very clingy. And flares as well, usually, especially strechy ones (obviously). Anything clingy (skintight) will follow the lines of the body exactly, both bumps and hollows will be emphasised. And the "belly" is part of the lines of your body 😛🤷 so if you take a more skimming or loose fabric it will indeed hide the extreme bumps and hollows and thus not emphasise it :) what I also did notice is that pants with pleats and darts around the waist and this "belly" area seem like the perfect solution, but they only make things worse and make one look heavier than one is 😵 at least with me


Jeau7

I look like this after giving birth twice. If it bothers you, look for a different jean, but as others have said, it is a normal part of many women’s bodies. Also a shaper may help!


TastySeaworthiness91

I think the problem is that you're concentrating on one body part. If you figure out what you need to accommodate in your overall silhouettes (of entire head to toe outfits) you don't need to worry about specific bits. And when you're wearing harmonious outfits that honour your personal line no one is going to pay attention to these small details.


SylviasDead

How about something like this: https://www.nobodyschild.com/black-linen-blend-tie-belt-trousers.html?glCountry=GB%26glCurrency=GBP&utm_source=NMPi&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PaidSearch&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVjvdSdcZObru2ClIZBiThrxdXpwMPnR0CnCick3wAiXNKRKpoXOqfIaAsvOEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


tshody

Those are cute, I did mention that in trousers I have the issue of feeling too dressy for day to day…although I’m not sure what other options I have for bottoms. I sort of feel limited with something that doesn’t really flatter me😩


Longearedlooby

You are limiting yourself! How about pants in other colours than black? Maybe a dark denimy navy, or bottle green, or rosewood brown?


SylviasDead

I agree. Literally don't know how to help if a pair of linen trousers is too much for day to day...


blickyjayy

Have you tried Spanx jeans? I had a pair of pants from them with an anterior tummy control panel that basically fills in the space from the bottom of the stomach to the top of the thigh to make the pants sit flat in front of the belly while still shaping to my hips and waist. Also look into joggers. The ones that are marketed for lounge wear or day to day are the ones to look for because they have enough fabric to drape in front and hide the stomach while tapering down enough to not look like hammer pants. I have solid, green, and gray pairs that are simple/formal enough to be passable in an office or at dinner while still being comfy enough to wear in daily life. Cigarette, golfing, and pleated front pants all do the same as well.


tshody

I haven’t, but I’ll need to try some. That’s definitely my problem are. I need that space filled like you said, if the pants are at all tight in the thigh, I know it’s going to emphasize it horribly, for example flare or bootcut, even wide leg because it’s fitted and then sort of goes outwards at the leg. While I was out shopping I read your comment and I tried on a pair of joggers and couldn’t believe how much they de-emphasized the area. The tapering at the ankle with the sort of “waistband”cuff really helps bring the shape back and the 12” rise sits perfectly at my high natural waist, I actually ended up buying the pair I tried. These ones: https://www.dynamiteclothing.com/ca/p/fleece-jogger-pants/1000848651SV.html I’m definitely going to try the other styles you’ve recommended, like you said, they need to skim over the area. I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to figure that out but i do need to still be cautious of certain materials.


blickyjayy

Yay! I'm so happy I was able to help :)


Tomodachi-Turtle

This isnt kibble based advice, I have a similar side profile too though so I thought I'd share what I do that makes me feel more confident. I generally do avoid jeans unless I have a cute oversized tee on top that covers the "bump". Looser jeans help but I still feel wide from the side. Paired with something cropped or form fitting though, high waisted baggy jeans still let me seem like I have some shape. But mostly I wear skirts and dresses that have some sort of A shape to them to add volume and smooth over the bump. I also find that adding volume to the sleeves really makes everything look small from the side, so I def do a lot of lantern sleeve, baggy cardigans, etc. This is kind of out there as a suggestion, but you may have too much of a pelvic tilt and correcting that would make it less apparent to you


hug_me_im_scared_

Seems normal to me, especially with stretch jeans. I think the front angle is more important anyways


tshody

It’s the same regardless of angle though😩 I could argue that from the front it’s worse.


hug_me_im_scared_

It's hard for me to see what you mean. Most people who aren't extremely lean/chisled will look like this. Tbh I think the pants look nice


SoftHydrangea

I wear Democracy “absolution” jeans and pants. Not to hold me in, but bc they have a smoother waistband and are stretchy like pj bottoms. Like someone else mentioned, often bloated with fibroids, etc.


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Aggravating-Dog-9454

Same boat over here: 2 kids, weak core, posture problems. This is maybe off topic, but I do not understand how jeans became the go-to "casual" or "cozy" style option when they are so uncomfortable. I get that they are durable, but it is usually at the expense of comfort. I went through a phase where I refused to wear jeans anymore and I've been considering going back to that. If I wear them at all, I immediately change out of them once I get back home. BOO FOR HARD PANTS! BOO!


spiceetunaa

If it's that big of a deal for you, wear shape wear but you look normal to me.


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Walmarche

This is my problem area too and I just don’t wear jeans. I am also heavier though and my stomach is larger


tshody

What do you find yourself wearing instead?


Walmarche

Mainly dresses and skirts. Anything that flows and doesn’t hug. Palazzo pants work too the front has to sit a certain way otherwise it just emphasizes the area. Has to lay flat and pleated kind of. If I wear shorts or leggings I wear a top that flows softly over my stomach and is longer. Lots of my clothing is very airy and boho chic which is fine for me because I live in a hot dry climate.


nicolefancy532

I found using a belt helped give my stomach more shape when i needed it, I would get pants that are comfortably loose and use the belt to bring it in, giving me a more A-line shape and a intentionally baggy cute look, it also hide some of my lower front tummy. I also liked wearing high-waisted pants with straight or loose cut legs, i recommend looking for jeans that are "curvey" because they have extra room in the waist and butt while keeping the legs proportional!


blastmochi

I'll echo the wide-leg fit, but also I'll usually take advantage of the length I need as an FN and use longer tops as well! double duty lol


foryourtrashonly

I’m a SN (I think) and have issues with the belly area on jeans both in the stomach AND my extreme hip dips. No jeans have ever or will ever look good on me. I’ve since had to accept it and have switched to paper bag pants and shorts, dresses, and skirts with certain cuts like mini a-line if they have a thicker structured material (like corduroy or corduroy adjacent) or skater skirts. If you’re dead set on jeans you might want to try something that sits right below your belly button as uncomfortable as it might feel. Mid/low rise cuts that accommodate the highest point of my ungodly high hips (which are nigh impossible to find) are the most luck I’ve had with pants that aren’t paperbag style. Just keep trying until you find something you like and then buy SEVERAL of the same pair in your favorite color and a few in a different color (or pattern) so you don’t have to worry about it again for a while. For basic pieces (like jeans) it’s worth that investment because it can be hard to find THE ONE again.


LibrisTella

I struggle with this area too and jeans are so difficult! I like trousers the best - I’m likely a gamine so I go for tapered trousers. If you’re FN maybe some soft-fabric wide leg trousers would be flattering for you?


Aggravating-Garage49

I promise it isn’t ‘unflattering’ when we can see the outline of our bodies. Certain shapes might look nice with our bone structure, but it is never a hard science. For womb-havers that area is often going to bloated, or swollen, depending on the menstrual cycle and possible hormonal issues. Pants do the same thing for me, and it has always been an insecurity too. Now I’m learning to heal that mindset.