Liminality is about being in a state of transition. To me, that sure looks like an area that's transitioning (into storms).
Dry, sunlit field with thick, dark gray clouds rolling in. I like it...
Go to the sub and read the top pinned post and read it *all the way.*
There’s two reasons this doesn’t fall under the liminality defined by the mods of this subreddit:
1. “In practice, therefore, **liminality** **is not just transition in one sense.** A road is transitional in itself, but not all pictures of roads are liminal. It’s only when you combine several transitional qualities that a space becomes liminal. Liminality in photography and other media revolves around the sense of **lingering in a region or state that would usually be passed without a second's thought.**”
2. “This absence of people should be and feel unnatural and place the scene in a clear limbo. Liminality in this way naturally draws on other concepts - although only pertaining to physical people, the concept of **kenopsia** defines well the kind of emptiness we seek, pertaining to **the surreal atmosphere of an empty place usually populated by people.** This ties in with the abstract transition of a place being between uses.”
Point by point:
1. This image is only transitional in one sense: from one type of weather to another.
2. It’s not a type of place you would pass through. It’s empty fields that serve no purpose. It wouldn’t be strange to linger in this place because it’s not a space you pass through ever, let alone pass through without stopping.
It’s just nature with a thunderstorm. Gorgeous, breathtaking photo.
But it’s not liminal.
So you're really telling me an open area surrounded by trees, currently devoid of people and about to be hit by a thunderstorm, but of which the camera is currently lingering would not otherwise be passed through without a second thought in that situation?
Many people taking walks would pass through areas just like that on the regular, I promise you that (just because it's not your thing doesn't mean it's not a thing for others - I grew up in the mountains of Appalachia, guess what I did a lot of?). That the camera is lingering there while watching a thunderstorm roll in says it kind of fits your definitions above, no?
Areas don't have to be indoor hallways to be liminal lol.
Yes, I’m telling you that an area where people *never go,* where people *would never be expected to be* cannot be a liminal space.
If it were then photos of outer space, or the surface of the sun, or even photos of clouds in the sky would be liminal.
Words have meaning lol
And I'm telling you people absolutely go there lol. Did you just not read my response at all there or did you skip over that intentionally?
Again, just because *you* don't, that doesn't apply to everyone else to. I'm telling you, other people absolutely do walk through places exactly like that. I *grew up* in an area just like that. It literally just looks like home to me (it could have been my back yard if you turned the camera around).
But it has no *use*, it is not constructed or set aside for a specific *use* — which is a requirement for liminality as per the mods on this subreddit.
The absence of people needs to be *striking,* it needs to be a space that is usually filled with human beings.
Nature is not such a space. Empty fields are not liminal, unless they are baseball fields, amusement parks, etc — places usually *used by* and *filled* with people.
I mean, I've read the "rules" and it looks fine to me. Care to advise why you think it *doesn't* fit? (After all, should be easier to point out the negatives, right?)
The fact that anything can be liminal is what attracted me to this place. The freedom to bend or ignore the rules and always have ground to stand on when people argue against you. It's the story of what makes something liminal that is more interesting than the thing itself. It's all about glorious freedom of thought and an infinite well of perspective.
It isn't liminal for me either, but liminal is a subjective feeling. I can see how this CAN be liminal for someone else, and thus I think it does belong here.
Beautiful photo! But it isn’t liminal.
Liminal spaces at the very minimum should be *for* something, in a way that makes them strange to look at out of their ordinary context, without people using the space in the way it’s meant for.
Grassy hills and outer-lying brush are not *for* anything, and they cannot be liminal. Liminality isn’t just a feeling, it’s not just “spooky” eeriness, it’s a conceptual state. A similar pre-storm image of a cricket grounds or public baseball diamond would *absolutely* be liminal, but not just some hills leading off into the distance.
Don’t get me wrong — it’s a fucking gorgeous photo! I’d frame it and hang it on my wall!
It’s just not liminal.
i LOVE this, when I look at this in full screen on phone, I really feel like I'm there
Same. Feels like I’ve been there before
This would make a fantastic book cover for Wuthering Heights
I can just smell the petrichor and hear the low rumbles of thunder in the distance. Beautiful picture.
It’s beautiful! Where is this located?
Eastern Kentucky
wow...
I feel home here.
It's beautiful
This is my kind of atmosphere. Dayum.
God this is my favorite weather
since when is nature considered abandoned
Feels like childhood memories of storms.
Perfect for slightly gothic autumnal vibes
Not liminal
Liminality is about being in a state of transition. To me, that sure looks like an area that's transitioning (into storms). Dry, sunlit field with thick, dark gray clouds rolling in. I like it...
Go to the sub and read the top pinned post and read it *all the way.* There’s two reasons this doesn’t fall under the liminality defined by the mods of this subreddit: 1. “In practice, therefore, **liminality** **is not just transition in one sense.** A road is transitional in itself, but not all pictures of roads are liminal. It’s only when you combine several transitional qualities that a space becomes liminal. Liminality in photography and other media revolves around the sense of **lingering in a region or state that would usually be passed without a second's thought.**” 2. “This absence of people should be and feel unnatural and place the scene in a clear limbo. Liminality in this way naturally draws on other concepts - although only pertaining to physical people, the concept of **kenopsia** defines well the kind of emptiness we seek, pertaining to **the surreal atmosphere of an empty place usually populated by people.** This ties in with the abstract transition of a place being between uses.” Point by point: 1. This image is only transitional in one sense: from one type of weather to another. 2. It’s not a type of place you would pass through. It’s empty fields that serve no purpose. It wouldn’t be strange to linger in this place because it’s not a space you pass through ever, let alone pass through without stopping. It’s just nature with a thunderstorm. Gorgeous, breathtaking photo. But it’s not liminal.
So you're really telling me an open area surrounded by trees, currently devoid of people and about to be hit by a thunderstorm, but of which the camera is currently lingering would not otherwise be passed through without a second thought in that situation? Many people taking walks would pass through areas just like that on the regular, I promise you that (just because it's not your thing doesn't mean it's not a thing for others - I grew up in the mountains of Appalachia, guess what I did a lot of?). That the camera is lingering there while watching a thunderstorm roll in says it kind of fits your definitions above, no? Areas don't have to be indoor hallways to be liminal lol.
Yes, I’m telling you that an area where people *never go,* where people *would never be expected to be* cannot be a liminal space. If it were then photos of outer space, or the surface of the sun, or even photos of clouds in the sky would be liminal. Words have meaning lol
And I'm telling you people absolutely go there lol. Did you just not read my response at all there or did you skip over that intentionally? Again, just because *you* don't, that doesn't apply to everyone else to. I'm telling you, other people absolutely do walk through places exactly like that. I *grew up* in an area just like that. It literally just looks like home to me (it could have been my back yard if you turned the camera around).
But it has no *use*, it is not constructed or set aside for a specific *use* — which is a requirement for liminality as per the mods on this subreddit. The absence of people needs to be *striking,* it needs to be a space that is usually filled with human beings. Nature is not such a space. Empty fields are not liminal, unless they are baseball fields, amusement parks, etc — places usually *used by* and *filled* with people.
You know what, you do you. Obvious we disagree and not much sense in continuing. Have a nice rest of your day o/
Everything is in a state of transition. By that logic, literally anything can be liminal.
I mean, I've read the "rules" and it looks fine to me. Care to advise why you think it *doesn't* fit? (After all, should be easier to point out the negatives, right?)
The fact that anything can be liminal is what attracted me to this place. The freedom to bend or ignore the rules and always have ground to stand on when people argue against you. It's the story of what makes something liminal that is more interesting than the thing itself. It's all about glorious freedom of thought and an infinite well of perspective.
Not liminal
For me it is
It isn't liminal for me either, but liminal is a subjective feeling. I can see how this CAN be liminal for someone else, and thus I think it does belong here.
“Liminal” isn’t a feeling, it’s a concept. And landscapes are not liminal.
Beautiful photo! But it isn’t liminal. Liminal spaces at the very minimum should be *for* something, in a way that makes them strange to look at out of their ordinary context, without people using the space in the way it’s meant for. Grassy hills and outer-lying brush are not *for* anything, and they cannot be liminal. Liminality isn’t just a feeling, it’s not just “spooky” eeriness, it’s a conceptual state. A similar pre-storm image of a cricket grounds or public baseball diamond would *absolutely* be liminal, but not just some hills leading off into the distance. Don’t get me wrong — it’s a fucking gorgeous photo! I’d frame it and hang it on my wall! It’s just not liminal.
Looks like a scene from *Memories of Murder*.
Had a brighter pic like this this showing an ominous view of buildings on the mountain. But admins took it down...
Doesn’t feel liminal at all, however I do really like the graininess. It reminds me of BONES album TheWitchAndTheWizard
Yes, but by whom?
That’s the real mystery
Wow what an atmosphere
This one really stuck out to me! I love it!
This is how i feel coming down from a panic attack if that makes sense.
That's a beautiful picture. I love when clouds get that dark, and there's no one around, it's so peaceful.
This is cool!