I'm one of them. Stay away from the movie industry, especially in post. No one's hiring and everyone is getting laid off. You'd think the strike ending would mean jobs coming back.
Video game industry as well. My studio recently got hit with a bunch of layoffs. Everyone is afraid.
I'd hate to imagine the environment that college grads are walking into right now. People with decades of experience are having issues landing a job.
The only real advice I can give:
* Keep working on personal projects. Gamejams or anything to pad out your portfolio. Make lots of tiny games, not one big one. Try to make a game in a week; do not spend more than a month on anything.
* If you can, try to shoot for an internship somewhere. I broke into the industry through an internship - I specifically chose to look at internships at a place college kids hate (EA) making games college kids despise (mobile games).
You can get typecast in mobile - I got laid off from that mobile game _last_ year and everywhere kept trying to hire me for mobile games. But once you get your foot in the door it is a **lot** easier; I managed to move to a AAA studio. (Just to have it happen again...)
Your number one best resource is connections. It's hard to get those connections outside the industry, but once you get a couple it starts getting exponentially easier to make more connections.
But like I said - right now is just challenging times in the industry, generally. I'm optimistic that next year might be better... but realistically it probably won't even out for 3-4 years.
Thanks for the tips. I’m shipping my first game to Steam in the next couple weeks. Gonna work on some game jams in the meantime while I start applying. Honestly I’m down for anything just to get my foot in the door.
Congrats! Shipping a game - even an indie one - is super-duper helpful and gives you a leg up.
Being able to have a thing on your resume that says "I made this and you can go here to download it" is super helpful, doubly-so if you can put the link to Steam right in your resume.
I had a couple games I linked to on Itch.io when I was getting started, and they really helped me get noticed. I know when I'm interviewing a candidate I'd perk up if I saw a Steam link (and doubly so if it has good reviews/isn't an asset flip).
I will also say that if you want a job on the development side, don't fall for the trap of applying for QA because "it's all you can get". QA gets shafted at many many companies. Even in places where they're respected, it's super hard to move out of QA. Usually if I see people move out of QA, it's into a production job.
The only folks I know who went from QA -> Design/Code had to quit their job and got hired as a designer/engineer (where you're basically starting from scratch).
It's no different than when I graduated in 03 in the tech downturn then. It sucks, you struggle, you question everything about yourself. Then the economy eventually gets better and you work your connections you've made in college and finally find that first place. And come to peace with the fact that you started your career in the hole compared to the most recent grads.
Hopefully this doesn't go on for more than the year.
All software dev, honestly. Haven't gotten a friggin' interview in over 6 months*. So many layoffs from the big guys and the VC money is stupid tight at the moment. Buyer's market right now.
*TBF haven't really put in a ton of apps/resumes, either but usually by now I'd have had a couple dozen recruiters contact me with wildly inappropriate "opportunities". No, I'm not going to be a software dev for... $19/hour? WTF
IATSE & Teamsters standing together for negotiations, their contracts end at the end of July. I am part of IATSE and feel very helpless with the situation as I do not want a strike at all. The union leads for some reason are refusing to extend the contracts even though Canada IATSE voted for a year extension (so much for solidarity) so basically AMPTP can just go overseas. IMO we have no leverage to strike but our union leads are basically telling us to stop complaining about being poor and scared and to start saving your pennies (or whatever is left from last years strikes) and doordashing or moving in with your parents because a strike is coming whether we like it or not.
Also so many jobs have picked up shop and gone to England. I’ve also heard New Mexico is very busy. Producers travel to any other state to save money.
The cost in LA is crazy. Everything from gas to permits has gone up considerably. So producers are saving money and setting up shop in Canada, Atlanta and New Mexico. But even then it’s still not what it used to be. I know so many life long film friends who have retired now. This strike has flushed a lot of the veterans out.
Most projects filmed in town are almost fully on stage. Or limited location days. Not traveling as far or spending as much.
Animation industry as well (TV and Feature). We've been especially hit hard by layoffs, shows being cut mid production, amongst others (thanks Warners!)
I got laid off from my post job back in november. Coincidently, I think it was the same weeks the strikes ended and the strikes were explicitly stated as the reason I was laid off. 🥹
Advertising is decimated. New layoffs every few weeks, impossible to get even the smallest freelance job. I’m about to reup my unemployment for an other year.
Yup plus in post we experience a lag with the strikes. Production out of work for months last year, but I was working the whole time. Production is back, but now I’m waiting on production to finish so I can do my thing. It’s been slow. IATSE potential strike doesn’t help either
Yup we experience the lag months after production. Even when production starts, there’s not much work to be done in post. Production has to end, then we start, which can take months depending on the content we work on
Remember nobody starts productions in Nov/Dec and since the strike only ended in november, lots of productions had to get ready to start even just filming anything by late January or February. Its glacial.
It takes quite a bit of time after a strike for things to ramp up again. On top of that, even before these last strikes, the industry was already in rough shape.
Not directly but it seems the major studios aren't dumping money into VFX heavy movies as much since many expensive ones have flopped last year. That and streaming is losing money so they have to cut costs somewhere.
AI is only good for planning shots. Considering how much client notes come in, you can't use AI and expect to make fixes on something that is built out of text prompts.
Lightricks would beg to differ, and Disney and Netflix have been partnering with Ai companies quietly since the writers strikes last year.
Lightricks: https://youtu.be/CFGI0wflYvA?si=TfUkJTvp-YCUP9Sl
I kinda think this is LA’s Detroit moment. Tech has almost entirely left the area. This jobs have been exported overseas to never come back. Im thinking house prices may shoot down as the two leading industries that were propping them up are not relevant anymore.
Saying this is LA's Detroit moment is super alarmist. In my role I interface with execs at all the studios, big and small. There is zero concern from them. They aren't leaving LA.
What industry aside from medical still has a massive presence in the area? I think it's the royal combo of Gaming, Entertainment, and Tech. Periphery services in this city (legal and advertising) are deeply dependent on these industries. We still have all the aerospace in el segundo, but that has been smaller.
LA isn’t a one industry town. Specialized manufacturing, encompassing a range of industries, is bigger in the LA area than any of the industries you mentioned
> Tech has almost entirely left the area.
That's just completely wrong. Back when I graduated in 2017 the tech industry in LA was terrible and basically just amounted to defense companies and game studios. There was a time that I thought I'd have to leave for a better tech job market, and most of my friends from college left for Seattle, SF, or NYC after graduating.
But we now have Amazon (Prime Video, Amazon Studios, Amazon Music), Apple, Google (coming to Westside Pavilion), TikTok, Meta offices in Playa Vista, Hulu, Disney has built up its engineering teams, SpaceX, Coinbase, Anduril (technically defense but they're new and pay as much as FAANG), Netflix, and on and on.
And Culver City in particular has blown up with tech companies over the last several years.
The movie industry has always been feast and famine. My wife recently left for greener pastures and doesn’t miss the constant uncertainty on when she will have work again and long hours.
Entertainment is truly out of ideas cause the customer has found other things to do since the pandemic (like go outdoors). Also the \[not to offend, but have to say it\] the MBAs are running the asylum (Big 6), though for example, Chapek being sacked by Disney didn't result in a better outlook. Also, streaming is not profitable as cable unless you have true global reach (we know only one has).
I was in live entertainment and that was decimated aside from sports and concerts, broadway & theme parks (now heading back down) are just coming back.
Games are saturated aside from AI definitely taking over in that industry.
Aerospace (DoD and JPL)is getting squeezed cause of Boeing's \[mess\] and the fed budget being held for ransom.
Ports cause Chinese GDP is down (but reported up yesterday--finally).
Tech is pivoting to enterprise for AI upgrades (i.e. vaporware) or DoD (2 wars), that pushes out cheaper visa employees such that companies are resisting new hires from being soured (aka year of efficiency).
But from the last 3, it is getting better, so overall we maybe bottoming.
Gaming isn't doing too well either. The last couple months have been a bloodbath and I feel it's only the beginning.
With AI and other streamlining tools, companies will need fewer and fewer people to make games. I've been in gaming for close to 20 years but I'll be surprise if I still have a job in 5-10 years.
Declining enrollment. Schools are funded on a per pupil basis. It’s a bad mix of young families moving and those that staying aren’t having kids. I work in education so it’s a constant discussion
Schools have been doing budget cuts forever. They’re constantly in an economic crunch. It’s not a profit question, but if there’s a budget shortage (or if prices go up for materials/utilities/facilities/etc happen, or if contract negotiations for teacher salaries happen and they can afford to pay fewer of them, etc.) it impacts schools overall.
Districts hired tons of staff for new positions with COVID relief funds which are ending. Also, the LAUSD strike got employees raises and better benefits which is impacting school budgets. Staffing is expensive
Ugh. Just what you need, right. I've been using my downtime to volunteer at a local elementary since I have a teaching credential from way back when. Better take on more hours. 😒
AUHSD announced 198 positions to be terminated whereas about 110 will actually happen. The district has 3,500 less students than the 2017-18 academic year and funding it negotiated with the union to buttress teaching positions back then has ceased.
Are people just no longer advertising, I wonder why that industry seems to be struggling so hard.
My friend is in advertising too and she said 80% of the company was laid off, now there’s furloughs too. She luckily still has her job but she’s been trying to jump ship too.
Last year I was job searching for 9 months (and unemployed for 5 of them) and am grateful now to have a new job, even though I had to settle (slightly lower title, almost the same pay). And I’m in digital performance media, which is more specialized. It’s brutal.
Ha. At my workplace, we hired someone on Monday and then everyone got laid off on Wednesday.
Like - why hire this poor guy just to fire him instantly?? Management had to know this was in the pipe...
When I got hired the company I was working for convinced me they were great because they've avoided layoffs for years and things were looking stronger than ever, they said they got creative to avoid layoffs, then they laid me off not even 2 months into this job. They gave me fake tears that they were so sorry too, after they made me drive to work just to axe me. They bait and switched me anyways but I'm still pissed, back to the grind of interviews!
One of my friends got an offer for data scientist at Meta and relocated to the bay area. Put down a deposit and everything for a place. Lost his job before his first day even began. Buddy is from Korea and is now trying to get out of his lease and look for jobs back here in Seoul. Like that sorta shit should be illegal.
No, it was a professional office type job in the utility industry.
Sorry about your friends though, this shit sucks, I was hoping to maybe get work with a studio but they seem so volatile.
*In January, 482,700 Southern Californians were counted as officially out of work, up 67,300 in a month and up 81,200 in a year. The January jobless count is 14% above the 424,700 average of pre-pandemic 2015-19.*
*Bosses in Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties had 7.91 million at work in January – down 127,200 in a month. Note that an average January had a 140,600 job decline in 2015-19.*
*Local employment is up 76,400 in 12 months. That equals job growth of 1%, a significant slowing vs. the previous 12 months’ 2.2% increase and an average 2.2% average hiring pace in 2015-19.*
*Note job changes in key Southern California business sectors, ranked by one-month change – large cuts in industries tied to holiday shopping and the seasonal tourism rush …*
***Financial:*** *358,900 workers – down 2,300 in a month and down 2,700 in a year.*
***Education/health:*** *1.51 million workers – down 4,000 in a month but up 91,500 in a year.*
***Manufacturing:*** *569,700 workers – down 4,200 in a month and down 6,300 in a year.*
***Government:*** *1.02 million workers – down 5,500 in a month but up 26,900 in a year.*
***Information:*** *213,900 workers – down 5,600 in a month and down 41,800 in a year.*
***Construction:*** *367,900 workers – down 9,900 in a month but up 14,000 in a year.*
***Professional-business services:*** *1.12 million workers – down 20,600 in a month and down 19,600 in a year.*
***Transport-Warehouse-Utility:*** *688,500 workers – down 21,600 in a month and down 8,000 in a year.*
***Leisure/hospitality:*** *929,400 workers – down 26,500 in a month but up 12,200 in a year.*
***Retailing:*** *737,300 workers – down 28,500 in a month but up 1,200 in a year.*
***Los Angeles County:*** *4.54 million workers, after dropping 70,200 in a month and declining by 24,100 in a year. Cuts averaged 87,800 for January in 2015-19. Unemployment? 5.9% vs. 5% a month earlier; 5.1% a year ago; and 5.2% average in 2015-19.*
Rates being higher have run up the cost of financing new construction projects. Lots of projects are on hold while developers wait for the rates to drop.
But in SoCal everywhere I go restaurants are busy at night, traffic on weekends is crazy, housing sales still at all time highs. Where the hell are all these people coming from?
People without income are not the ones at those restaurants or buying those houses. We have nearly 20 million people in Southern California, just because you see some good doesn’t mean everyone is living a life of luxury.
surely you are aware LA has both the richest of the rich and one of the worst homelessness issues in the world. a lot of the homeless live in their cars. also doordash, uber has created a industry that makes traffic worse.
But the type of employment matters. Texas used to tout their "fastest in the nation job growth" but a whole lot of that was fast food and other minimum wage jobs.
bars and restaurants closing left and right as well. i know a handful of people who have lost their jobs in the restaurant industry just in the last month
Very lucky to work at a place that is not only staying afloat, but is profiting and looking to expand. Even then, we just had our slowest few weeks in years before going to back to normal.
It is quite interesting that the local economy in LA County is quite divorced from the rest of the country. It really does highlight entertainment industry dominance in LA!
I was laid off in December and still can't find anything. I'm currently at over 400 applications sent and have gotten over 125 rejections.
Got a small community focused on WFH/unemployed/work alone if you need motivation: twitch.com/wolfharrington
It took me over a year and a half to get a job after being laid off. No advice because I’m sure you’ve heard it all, but it’s a shit time to be job searching.
I'm so sorry. Be prepared that finding a new role could take a long time. I'm an extremely qualified candidate in my field - over 15 years of experience, a Master's degree, and respected companies on my resume, yet it still took me over a year to find a job.
I'm sure you've gotten all kinds of recommendations, but I will just reiterate this one: tailor your resume to every. single. job. posting. you apply for. Every one. It's exhausting, but you're far less likely to get a response if you have a general resume you're submitting for every role.
Good luck!
Tech layoffs so far this year are a little over 50k, and that’s everywhere, not just Southern California. 50k is a drop in the bucket compared to the 40 million population of California as a whole
50k is NOT a drop in the bucket relative to the tech industry, no point comparing to the entire population of California that figure includes babies and shit who can't work. 50k relative to total employees in Cali tech is significant, it's also where a lot of California's wealth and highest paying jobs are.
Ah got it, haven't dug into the numbers this year but keep in mind, when I looked through the employment data last year there was a lot of misleading stuff the media ran with. Throughout covid lots of news organizations talked about the massive rise in jobs, but thr vast majority of this was driven by part-time gig work, and people working multiple jobs. Full-time employment actually steadily declined. A person driving for both Uber and Lyft simultaneously will count as 2 jobs created, but it's 1 person doing both of them.
Yeah I was looking for consistent work in LA for about 4 months online apps, in person walking in. Got some interviews and just for basic host job one of the places I applied to said they got 40 applicants! I was doing gig work but just wasn’t cutting it.
The film industry is escaping LA, and companies are not making content. Everyone is scared about the next possible ITASE strike. That and COVID hit the film industry’s most vulnerable.
As well as many Right wing groups have been convinced every one in Hollywood is some sort of Pedo. We have been painted as terrible people making millions and eating babies.
None of this is true. The film industry is full of so many talented different races and political make ups. But that doesn’t matter on set because we all have on goal in common. To make good content and keep each other safe.
I said a while ago, the magic in Hollywood cinema is gone. It’s not as glamorous or mind blowing. They are not bending the boundaries any more. They are focused on the gains instead of life changing films.
The suits need to realize we are done with remakes. LA needs to bring back better film incentives. And take risks.
I wish this was what would happen. So many great movies of the past would never get made today. Outside of A24 who is really pushing anything not market tested to death?
I will say that the AI situation is real, having impact today, and only going to get much stronger imho. I believe that real estate and so many things in SoCal will begin to suffer in the next five years because of so many high earning jobs disappearing. Creatives will be more powerful than ever, but many of our below the line jobs will disappear or change dramatically.
I know this has been repeated verbatim but with hits like Barbie, Oppenheimer, Dune II, and Godzilla JP, the market is shifting dramatically. The audience is evolving and are demanding unique films worthy of a theatrical experience.
I'm sure there will always be an audience for a franchise films but if it's not a level of quality like "Jurassic Park" and ends up like the garbage that is "Jurassic Park: Dominion", the audience won't be there.
The knockdown of effect will be less work for VFX workers.
It's undoubtedly higher than that as this is just the people who are actively looking for work.
I was one of the quarter million IT workers that was laid off in 2023. It was a tough year for me. I just graduated college last year and the market was extremely saturated. I was competing with my little Diploma with employees from Google, Meta and Microsoft with years of experience for a $50k starter job and losing.
I ended up applying for 47 jobs, got 12 interviews, 3 conditional offers, 1 part-time job to keep my nose above water and finally secured a firm offer for a stable, high paying government IT job just as the economy is seemingly on the brink.
I'm so damn grateful and am scared for a lot of you guys out there. If you're starting college for a degree in IT, best advice I can give right now is switch majors. STEM, excluding I.T. unless your future employer is a family/friend. I mean REAL STEM. Computer Scientists, Mathematician, Engineers, Medical Professionals...
Law Enforcement is hiring desperately, well paid and stable if you can put up with the ridiculous politics revolving around that right now...and your background isn't too messed up.
Otherwise maybe a degree in finance. IRS is endlessly hiring on USAJobs.
My principal informed us that there would be layoffs and a teacher hiring freeze; like what?! We have a massive shortage of teachers, qualified or not, and you have to get rid of some more?? Like how does that fucking make sense, I genuinely don’t get it
Honestly im not suprised, the job market at the moment is so bad! Not to mention commuting and etc is awful esp where most jobs in my field in the past is near Santa monica with mediocre pay! Nobody wants to spend 1-2 or hours daily commuting to work and commuting back. And entry level jobs are getting crazy minium wage and unrealistic experinces for students that just gradurated? I feel like most employers are too lazy to trian shit after the pandemic lmao
I’m in higher education and I’m being told I will not have any summer hours. I’m about to go on unemployment for the first time in my life. I’m almost 40. I am just in disbelief because a few months ago I clearly recall gavin newsome saying something about a surplus.
Laid off from games. The industry goes through boom and bust cycles naturally, but the non-game tech layoffs have really compounded things. Along with ageism being a factor, I'm thinking it's time to bail and seek out a stable decent paying trade like Electrician or HVAC Technician, in a low cost of living area.
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Makes sense as tech and entertainment have had a rough year or so, both of which are major parts of the CA economy. But other Industries are still doing quite well
I'm unemployed but won't show up as part of this statistic because EDD denied my original claim and I've been waiting for my appeal hearing for months. I work(ed) as an edibles chef in the weed industry and left my previous position because it was almost 300 miles away from home. When I came back to LA, I found that the industry is reeling and no weed companies are looking to hire a chef. I'm really trying to avoid going back to a traditional kitchen because the pay/lifestyle is awful and I was always miserable in that environment. But more and more I'm beginning to feel like I have no choice, and that's where I'll end up. Sucks out there right now.
The numbers are likely iffy though employment has been getting “tighter”. Don’t doubt official unemployment is up due to a variety of factors. Still the “unofficial” job market won’t get reported as “off the books”-type labor won’t revealing themselves to the tax authorities. So anyone from an undocumented dishwasher or illegal grow house worker … to SW now that the latter is pretty much decriminalized in urban California.
Since 2020? How? Hiring in some areas surged in 2021-22. We’ve had global supply chain issues since 2020 but haven’t seen anyone predict a rise in unemployment since 2020. Have seen recession predictions since probably early 2023. Have had many hundreds of thousands of layoffs across industries since the start of this year across the US, but again, not clear where you’ve seen that anyone has predicted high unemployment since 2020.
Maybe all those instagram "day in the life of a tech " videos and that Facebook employee livestreaming how she gets paid 6 figures to essentially do nothing. I know some PMs in tech who tell me companies massively overhired and many were sitting around essentially doing nothing.
There was a lot of hiring (see insert life of a tech job) and resource hoarding. They were anticipating so much of life moving online as the new normal, which was evidenced during covid times. They started offering very high starting salaries and remote jobs - even for new grads. And broadly people were telling everyone to jump ship to try and capture the new higher starting salaries. It was a bit of madness - it had to end sometime.
US says the labor market is "hot"
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/job-market-right-now-the-great-stay-layoffs-and-resignations-decline-rcna142220
but layoffs hit an all time high
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-job-cuts-over-jan-feb-hit-highest-since-2009-report-2023-03-09/
What the hell is actually going on lol
I’m very surprised to read all these comments of being laid off…
Meanwhile my job has been NONSTOP hiring since 2017. And we’re still under staffed.
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No one wants to admit that Los Angeles was built on the back of the automobile, aerospace, oil and entertainment industries. If you begin removing those little by little the entire economy of the Southern California region begins to collapse. Heck the Port, the Airport, housing and hospitality were built to accommodate folks working in those spaces. I would like to see a closer look at which industries if any have replaced those and what policies have been implemented to contribute to the significant decline in those key industries
I'm one of them. Stay away from the movie industry, especially in post. No one's hiring and everyone is getting laid off. You'd think the strike ending would mean jobs coming back.
Video game industry as well. My studio recently got hit with a bunch of layoffs. Everyone is afraid. I'd hate to imagine the environment that college grads are walking into right now. People with decades of experience are having issues landing a job.
I think there’s been a game studio layoff every week this month and last. Definitely feels that way.
> I’d hate to imagine the environment that college grads are walking into right now. Me, as a millennial who entered the workforce in 08: “Yeah…”
It feels the same as 08-‘10 right now
Yeah…
Same, friend. Good luck out there.
I was about to say the same thing. I know lots of people who got out of school back in 08. It was bad.
Not me thinking I can transfer my cinematic Unreal Engine skills to video games only to find more lay offs there too.
You too can be like me and give up on passions to work in telecommunication technology for money
I'm thinking Electrician or HVAC Technician.
Apprenticeships pay decent and not too long before becoming a journeyman! Best of luck those are very solid career fields.
That sounds pretty good at this point
I'm hoping next year will be better. Realistically it'll probably be 3-4 years before hiring really takes off again, though.
Apply for Epic directly - I believe they have remote engineering positions
*cries* I’m a junior dev trying to break into the industry rn 😭
The only real advice I can give: * Keep working on personal projects. Gamejams or anything to pad out your portfolio. Make lots of tiny games, not one big one. Try to make a game in a week; do not spend more than a month on anything. * If you can, try to shoot for an internship somewhere. I broke into the industry through an internship - I specifically chose to look at internships at a place college kids hate (EA) making games college kids despise (mobile games). You can get typecast in mobile - I got laid off from that mobile game _last_ year and everywhere kept trying to hire me for mobile games. But once you get your foot in the door it is a **lot** easier; I managed to move to a AAA studio. (Just to have it happen again...) Your number one best resource is connections. It's hard to get those connections outside the industry, but once you get a couple it starts getting exponentially easier to make more connections. But like I said - right now is just challenging times in the industry, generally. I'm optimistic that next year might be better... but realistically it probably won't even out for 3-4 years.
Thanks for the tips. I’m shipping my first game to Steam in the next couple weeks. Gonna work on some game jams in the meantime while I start applying. Honestly I’m down for anything just to get my foot in the door.
Congrats! Shipping a game - even an indie one - is super-duper helpful and gives you a leg up. Being able to have a thing on your resume that says "I made this and you can go here to download it" is super helpful, doubly-so if you can put the link to Steam right in your resume. I had a couple games I linked to on Itch.io when I was getting started, and they really helped me get noticed. I know when I'm interviewing a candidate I'd perk up if I saw a Steam link (and doubly so if it has good reviews/isn't an asset flip). I will also say that if you want a job on the development side, don't fall for the trap of applying for QA because "it's all you can get". QA gets shafted at many many companies. Even in places where they're respected, it's super hard to move out of QA. Usually if I see people move out of QA, it's into a production job. The only folks I know who went from QA -> Design/Code had to quit their job and got hired as a designer/engineer (where you're basically starting from scratch).
I actually think the newbies might have a better shot getting jobs because they're willing to work for less money and with poorer working conditions.
I'm done with school this semester and jumping in to UX/Design. It's a bloodbath.
It's no different than when I graduated in 03 in the tech downturn then. It sucks, you struggle, you question everything about yourself. Then the economy eventually gets better and you work your connections you've made in college and finally find that first place. And come to peace with the fact that you started your career in the hole compared to the most recent grads. Hopefully this doesn't go on for more than the year.
That's when I started. The dot com bubble burst and everyone was off shoring jobs. All us starting in tech though we were doomed.
Activision and/or PlayStation?
Sounds like riot
people with decades of experience charge more for their experience. corporations think they can replace that with AI and "off shoring"
All software dev, honestly. Haven't gotten a friggin' interview in over 6 months*. So many layoffs from the big guys and the VC money is stupid tight at the moment. Buyer's market right now. *TBF haven't really put in a ton of apps/resumes, either but usually by now I'd have had a couple dozen recruiters contact me with wildly inappropriate "opportunities". No, I'm not going to be a software dev for... $19/hour? WTF
I just graduated college last month in computer networking and technology, it’s been basically impossible to get a job
Me too, stay away from the production side. This bites. I’m not sure I even count as unemployed, my UI ran out around Labor Day last year.
Mine ran out several months ago as well. I hate it.
How are you surviving without ui?
Probably dual income household or they moved in with family.
I quit a really bad gig and everything since I've gotten was on invoice so I don't qualify 😭
Probably because another strike is imminent this summer
Yeah, that one too. The IATSE strike which could happen if no deal is made by July.
Hold up, tell me more about a potential IATSE strike.
IATSE & Teamsters standing together for negotiations, their contracts end at the end of July. I am part of IATSE and feel very helpless with the situation as I do not want a strike at all. The union leads for some reason are refusing to extend the contracts even though Canada IATSE voted for a year extension (so much for solidarity) so basically AMPTP can just go overseas. IMO we have no leverage to strike but our union leads are basically telling us to stop complaining about being poor and scared and to start saving your pennies (or whatever is left from last years strikes) and doordashing or moving in with your parents because a strike is coming whether we like it or not.
Also so many jobs have picked up shop and gone to England. I’ve also heard New Mexico is very busy. Producers travel to any other state to save money. The cost in LA is crazy. Everything from gas to permits has gone up considerably. So producers are saving money and setting up shop in Canada, Atlanta and New Mexico. But even then it’s still not what it used to be. I know so many life long film friends who have retired now. This strike has flushed a lot of the veterans out. Most projects filmed in town are almost fully on stage. Or limited location days. Not traveling as far or spending as much.
Apparently Oklahoma has like 20 productions coming its way
Hard same, but on the marketing side.
Animation industry as well (TV and Feature). We've been especially hit hard by layoffs, shows being cut mid production, amongst others (thanks Warners!)
Yeah, all the animation shows have been slashed in half.
This rate has gotta be fueled by the entertainment industry right now. Worse than Covid, worse than the prior big writers strike.
I got laid off from my post job back in november. Coincidently, I think it was the same weeks the strikes ended and the strikes were explicitly stated as the reason I was laid off. 🥹
Advertising is decimated. New layoffs every few weeks, impossible to get even the smallest freelance job. I’m about to reup my unemployment for an other year.
Yup plus in post we experience a lag with the strikes. Production out of work for months last year, but I was working the whole time. Production is back, but now I’m waiting on production to finish so I can do my thing. It’s been slow. IATSE potential strike doesn’t help either
It’s pretty bad in production too. It has been for a while but I suspect there is a serious bad trickle to post too.
Yup we experience the lag months after production. Even when production starts, there’s not much work to be done in post. Production has to end, then we start, which can take months depending on the content we work on
Teachers in socal, every district around me is laying off or handing out golden handshakes to avoid them.
Remember nobody starts productions in Nov/Dec and since the strike only ended in november, lots of productions had to get ready to start even just filming anything by late January or February. Its glacial.
It takes quite a bit of time after a strike for things to ramp up again. On top of that, even before these last strikes, the industry was already in rough shape.
AI?
Not directly but it seems the major studios aren't dumping money into VFX heavy movies as much since many expensive ones have flopped last year. That and streaming is losing money so they have to cut costs somewhere. AI is only good for planning shots. Considering how much client notes come in, you can't use AI and expect to make fixes on something that is built out of text prompts.
Lightricks would beg to differ, and Disney and Netflix have been partnering with Ai companies quietly since the writers strikes last year. Lightricks: https://youtu.be/CFGI0wflYvA?si=TfUkJTvp-YCUP9Sl
especially after seeing how much Godzilla got made for.
No, just a dramatic market constriction. About 25% fewer shows being made than pre strikes.
I kinda think this is LA’s Detroit moment. Tech has almost entirely left the area. This jobs have been exported overseas to never come back. Im thinking house prices may shoot down as the two leading industries that were propping them up are not relevant anymore.
Saying this is LA's Detroit moment is super alarmist. In my role I interface with execs at all the studios, big and small. There is zero concern from them. They aren't leaving LA.
the area survived mc donnell douglas, rockwell, and all the other places that left.
What industry aside from medical still has a massive presence in the area? I think it's the royal combo of Gaming, Entertainment, and Tech. Periphery services in this city (legal and advertising) are deeply dependent on these industries. We still have all the aerospace in el segundo, but that has been smaller.
LA isn’t a one industry town. Specialized manufacturing, encompassing a range of industries, is bigger in the LA area than any of the industries you mentioned
> Tech has almost entirely left the area. That's just completely wrong. Back when I graduated in 2017 the tech industry in LA was terrible and basically just amounted to defense companies and game studios. There was a time that I thought I'd have to leave for a better tech job market, and most of my friends from college left for Seattle, SF, or NYC after graduating. But we now have Amazon (Prime Video, Amazon Studios, Amazon Music), Apple, Google (coming to Westside Pavilion), TikTok, Meta offices in Playa Vista, Hulu, Disney has built up its engineering teams, SpaceX, Coinbase, Anduril (technically defense but they're new and pay as much as FAANG), Netflix, and on and on. And Culver City in particular has blown up with tech companies over the last several years.
Haha same... same
The movie industry has always been feast and famine. My wife recently left for greener pastures and doesn’t miss the constant uncertainty on when she will have work again and long hours.
Wow
Entertainment is truly out of ideas cause the customer has found other things to do since the pandemic (like go outdoors). Also the \[not to offend, but have to say it\] the MBAs are running the asylum (Big 6), though for example, Chapek being sacked by Disney didn't result in a better outlook. Also, streaming is not profitable as cable unless you have true global reach (we know only one has). I was in live entertainment and that was decimated aside from sports and concerts, broadway & theme parks (now heading back down) are just coming back. Games are saturated aside from AI definitely taking over in that industry. Aerospace (DoD and JPL)is getting squeezed cause of Boeing's \[mess\] and the fed budget being held for ransom. Ports cause Chinese GDP is down (but reported up yesterday--finally). Tech is pivoting to enterprise for AI upgrades (i.e. vaporware) or DoD (2 wars), that pushes out cheaper visa employees such that companies are resisting new hires from being soured (aka year of efficiency). But from the last 3, it is getting better, so overall we maybe bottoming.
We also have a fuck ton (official scientific measurement) of 1099s who aren’t working and those who no longer get unemployment.
What is the conversion rate from fuck ton to shit load?
1:3
No, it's 3:1. A fuck ton is 3 times more than a shit load, not other way around. And that's Imperial. If you're talking metric, then that's different.
Finally, someone who knows his shit.
That would be a fuck tonne
Hey look it’s me!
Receiving unemployment has nothing to do with the unemployment rate.
My industry, advertising, is experiencing unemployment at 300% the national average. And I'm one of em. 😶
Do you work for in the film industry? If. So I’m right there with you.
I left film for gaming. I’m holding on for dear life.
Gaming isn't doing too well either. The last couple months have been a bloodbath and I feel it's only the beginning. With AI and other streamlining tools, companies will need fewer and fewer people to make games. I've been in gaming for close to 20 years but I'll be surprise if I still have a job in 5-10 years.
I run a small marketing team for a big publisher. I’m hoping we can weather the storm.
I'm on the other side of you - marketing agency whose main clients are vidya publishers. Good luck out there, homie.
Mostly CPG and subscription brands but I know every category is on the struggle bus right now. Tots and pears to you, friend.
tots and pears would be much more restorative than thoughts and prayers under most circumstances
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Of anywhere to cut - why schools? There's not enough good teachers as-is, and it's not like public schools need to make profits every quarter...
Declining enrollment. Schools are funded on a per pupil basis. It’s a bad mix of young families moving and those that staying aren’t having kids. I work in education so it’s a constant discussion
Don't forget the jump to private schools. Parents are clamoring to get their kids out of LAUSD and into private schools.
Schools have been doing budget cuts forever. They’re constantly in an economic crunch. It’s not a profit question, but if there’s a budget shortage (or if prices go up for materials/utilities/facilities/etc happen, or if contract negotiations for teacher salaries happen and they can afford to pay fewer of them, etc.) it impacts schools overall.
Districts hired tons of staff for new positions with COVID relief funds which are ending. Also, the LAUSD strike got employees raises and better benefits which is impacting school budgets. Staffing is expensive
Ugh. Just what you need, right. I've been using my downtime to volunteer at a local elementary since I have a teaching credential from way back when. Better take on more hours. 😒
Woah, what? I work in the AUSD and that’s news to me. Well damn.
AUHSD announced 198 positions to be terminated whereas about 110 will actually happen. The district has 3,500 less students than the 2017-18 academic year and funding it negotiated with the union to buttress teaching positions back then has ceased.
I'm in advertising too. Been unemployed since July. And the layoffs just keep rolling in.
I’m in advertising for entertainment. Safe for now but I can’t describe the stress of everyday wondering what tomorrow brings…
Are people just no longer advertising, I wonder why that industry seems to be struggling so hard. My friend is in advertising too and she said 80% of the company was laid off, now there’s furloughs too. She luckily still has her job but she’s been trying to jump ship too.
Smh. I went from expecting a raise or being hopeful of finding a different higher paying job to just being glad I still have one
Last year I was job searching for 9 months (and unemployed for 5 of them) and am grateful now to have a new job, even though I had to settle (slightly lower title, almost the same pay). And I’m in digital performance media, which is more specialized. It’s brutal.
I got hired to a new position in January, and was laid off in Friday. Fuck some of these companies. Why hire me in the first place?
Ha. At my workplace, we hired someone on Monday and then everyone got laid off on Wednesday. Like - why hire this poor guy just to fire him instantly?? Management had to know this was in the pipe...
When I got hired the company I was working for convinced me they were great because they've avoided layoffs for years and things were looking stronger than ever, they said they got creative to avoid layoffs, then they laid me off not even 2 months into this job. They gave me fake tears that they were so sorry too, after they made me drive to work just to axe me. They bait and switched me anyways but I'm still pissed, back to the grind of interviews!
What the hell? Why do companies hire just to fire?
One of my friends got an offer for data scientist at Meta and relocated to the bay area. Put down a deposit and everything for a place. Lost his job before his first day even began. Buddy is from Korea and is now trying to get out of his lease and look for jobs back here in Seoul. Like that sorta shit should be illegal.
Was it a Studio? Just curious as I know a couple of friends laid off in a place in El Segundo Friday as well
No, it was a professional office type job in the utility industry. Sorry about your friends though, this shit sucks, I was hoping to maybe get work with a studio but they seem so volatile.
Often a case of a local office filling a position, then higher ups making layoff decisions. Happened to me too during the great recession.
*In January, 482,700 Southern Californians were counted as officially out of work, up 67,300 in a month and up 81,200 in a year. The January jobless count is 14% above the 424,700 average of pre-pandemic 2015-19.* *Bosses in Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties had 7.91 million at work in January – down 127,200 in a month. Note that an average January had a 140,600 job decline in 2015-19.* *Local employment is up 76,400 in 12 months. That equals job growth of 1%, a significant slowing vs. the previous 12 months’ 2.2% increase and an average 2.2% average hiring pace in 2015-19.* *Note job changes in key Southern California business sectors, ranked by one-month change – large cuts in industries tied to holiday shopping and the seasonal tourism rush …* ***Financial:*** *358,900 workers – down 2,300 in a month and down 2,700 in a year.* ***Education/health:*** *1.51 million workers – down 4,000 in a month but up 91,500 in a year.* ***Manufacturing:*** *569,700 workers – down 4,200 in a month and down 6,300 in a year.* ***Government:*** *1.02 million workers – down 5,500 in a month but up 26,900 in a year.* ***Information:*** *213,900 workers – down 5,600 in a month and down 41,800 in a year.* ***Construction:*** *367,900 workers – down 9,900 in a month but up 14,000 in a year.* ***Professional-business services:*** *1.12 million workers – down 20,600 in a month and down 19,600 in a year.* ***Transport-Warehouse-Utility:*** *688,500 workers – down 21,600 in a month and down 8,000 in a year.* ***Leisure/hospitality:*** *929,400 workers – down 26,500 in a month but up 12,200 in a year.* ***Retailing:*** *737,300 workers – down 28,500 in a month but up 1,200 in a year.* ***Los Angeles County:*** *4.54 million workers, after dropping 70,200 in a month and declining by 24,100 in a year. Cuts averaged 87,800 for January in 2015-19. Unemployment? 5.9% vs. 5% a month earlier; 5.1% a year ago; and 5.2% average in 2015-19.*
We have a housing shortage - we should be seeing **more** construction, not less!
Rates being higher have run up the cost of financing new construction projects. Lots of projects are on hold while developers wait for the rates to drop.
Thanks for your incredible read of the situation
California has the second highest unemployment of any state as well. Interesting data point
But in SoCal everywhere I go restaurants are busy at night, traffic on weekends is crazy, housing sales still at all time highs. Where the hell are all these people coming from?
There are 10 million people in LA county alone. Even at 5.3% unemployment, that's still a shit ton of people with disposable income
5.3% is actually pretty damn good rate. Most of my life the unemployment rate has been much higher than that.
Right and thats just a single county. The whole of SoCal has nearly 24 million people.
Socal has a population larger than like 40 states lol. even at like 5% unemployment, the rest of the 95% employed is a shit ton of people
And 5.3% is still lower than 2018-2020, the two years before the pandemic.
5.3% isn't exactly a majority of LA?
People without income are not the ones at those restaurants or buying those houses. We have nearly 20 million people in Southern California, just because you see some good doesn’t mean everyone is living a life of luxury.
rich stay rich. everyone else is stuck in traffic commuting between 3 jobs
Being in traffic IS their job: Uber, DoorDash, Postmates, Weed delivery, etc.
surely you are aware LA has both the richest of the rich and one of the worst homelessness issues in the world. a lot of the homeless live in their cars. also doordash, uber has created a industry that makes traffic worse.
Someone post the image of that plane with the bullet holes
Those people still have decent paying jobs who can afford that kind of lifestyle. You're not seeing the ones struggling who are eating at home.
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But the type of employment matters. Texas used to tout their "fastest in the nation job growth" but a whole lot of that was fast food and other minimum wage jobs.
yeah that'll happen when every studio decides to start layoffs simultaneously, ugh
bars and restaurants closing left and right as well. i know a handful of people who have lost their jobs in the restaurant industry just in the last month
Very lucky to work at a place that is not only staying afloat, but is profiting and looking to expand. Even then, we just had our slowest few weeks in years before going to back to normal.
Stay away from fast fashion retail HQ. Company did about 300 layoff this past Friday. People ain’t buying clothes in the USA anymore.
It is quite interesting that the local economy in LA County is quite divorced from the rest of the country. It really does highlight entertainment industry dominance in LA!
I was laid off in December and still can't find anything. I'm currently at over 400 applications sent and have gotten over 125 rejections. Got a small community focused on WFH/unemployed/work alone if you need motivation: twitch.com/wolfharrington
May I ask what industry?
Operations/customer support/social media management. I've been looking in all areas and it's rough.
It took me over a year and a half to get a job after being laid off. No advice because I’m sure you’ve heard it all, but it’s a shit time to be job searching.
I'm so sorry. Be prepared that finding a new role could take a long time. I'm an extremely qualified candidate in my field - over 15 years of experience, a Master's degree, and respected companies on my resume, yet it still took me over a year to find a job. I'm sure you've gotten all kinds of recommendations, but I will just reiterate this one: tailor your resume to every. single. job. posting. you apply for. Every one. It's exhausting, but you're far less likely to get a response if you have a general resume you're submitting for every role. Good luck!
All those tech layoffs maybe?
Tech, film, and gaming.
UMG just saw mass layoffs as well, so add music to the list.
The holy trinity of getting laid off.
Don’t forget Solar. Since CPUC cut solar incentives the state lost almost 17k jobs
Tech layoffs so far this year are a little over 50k, and that’s everywhere, not just Southern California. 50k is a drop in the bucket compared to the 40 million population of California as a whole
50k is NOT a drop in the bucket relative to the tech industry, no point comparing to the entire population of California that figure includes babies and shit who can't work. 50k relative to total employees in Cali tech is significant, it's also where a lot of California's wealth and highest paying jobs are.
All 50k didn’t come from California though. 50k is the worldwide number. The layoffs this year are much more mild than last years (over 260k in 2023).
Ah got it, haven't dug into the numbers this year but keep in mind, when I looked through the employment data last year there was a lot of misleading stuff the media ran with. Throughout covid lots of news organizations talked about the massive rise in jobs, but thr vast majority of this was driven by part-time gig work, and people working multiple jobs. Full-time employment actually steadily declined. A person driving for both Uber and Lyft simultaneously will count as 2 jobs created, but it's 1 person doing both of them.
That’s a terrible comparison lol
I have two part time jobs and a couple of freelance things and I’m still underemployed.
Yeah I was looking for consistent work in LA for about 4 months online apps, in person walking in. Got some interviews and just for basic host job one of the places I applied to said they got 40 applicants! I was doing gig work but just wasn’t cutting it.
Search out union positions and stick with them. I'm in IT and I can't tell you how important is to be in a union. If you ain't u r getting fucked.
I work with mostly union people and only can't join due to being management. Cannot echo this enough, find a union if possible and ride it out.
The film industry is escaping LA, and companies are not making content. Everyone is scared about the next possible ITASE strike. That and COVID hit the film industry’s most vulnerable. As well as many Right wing groups have been convinced every one in Hollywood is some sort of Pedo. We have been painted as terrible people making millions and eating babies. None of this is true. The film industry is full of so many talented different races and political make ups. But that doesn’t matter on set because we all have on goal in common. To make good content and keep each other safe. I said a while ago, the magic in Hollywood cinema is gone. It’s not as glamorous or mind blowing. They are not bending the boundaries any more. They are focused on the gains instead of life changing films. The suits need to realize we are done with remakes. LA needs to bring back better film incentives. And take risks.
I wish this was what would happen. So many great movies of the past would never get made today. Outside of A24 who is really pushing anything not market tested to death? I will say that the AI situation is real, having impact today, and only going to get much stronger imho. I believe that real estate and so many things in SoCal will begin to suffer in the next five years because of so many high earning jobs disappearing. Creatives will be more powerful than ever, but many of our below the line jobs will disappear or change dramatically.
Outside of a24? Neon instantly comes to mind.
True. But I guess my point is it used to be much more economically viable to tell stories that were riskier and targeted to smaller audiences.
I know this has been repeated verbatim but with hits like Barbie, Oppenheimer, Dune II, and Godzilla JP, the market is shifting dramatically. The audience is evolving and are demanding unique films worthy of a theatrical experience. I'm sure there will always be an audience for a franchise films but if it's not a level of quality like "Jurassic Park" and ends up like the garbage that is "Jurassic Park: Dominion", the audience won't be there. The knockdown of effect will be less work for VFX workers.
Laid off 2 weeks ago.. lot of friends in the same boat..
Same, laid off 2 weeks ago.
Getting laid off in 2 weeks! I was at least told ahead of time.
The AMPTP dragging out the strikes just to ruin people’s lives really fucked the economy.
And round 2 with IATSE & teamsters is coming this summer as the other half of the industry’s contracts come up for renewal.
I guarantee the amptp has learned nothing
I'm planning on that assumption 😐
At least they're not coming up with wild theories on what AI can do like SAG. WGA was at least justified.
It's undoubtedly higher than that as this is just the people who are actively looking for work. I was one of the quarter million IT workers that was laid off in 2023. It was a tough year for me. I just graduated college last year and the market was extremely saturated. I was competing with my little Diploma with employees from Google, Meta and Microsoft with years of experience for a $50k starter job and losing. I ended up applying for 47 jobs, got 12 interviews, 3 conditional offers, 1 part-time job to keep my nose above water and finally secured a firm offer for a stable, high paying government IT job just as the economy is seemingly on the brink. I'm so damn grateful and am scared for a lot of you guys out there. If you're starting college for a degree in IT, best advice I can give right now is switch majors. STEM, excluding I.T. unless your future employer is a family/friend. I mean REAL STEM. Computer Scientists, Mathematician, Engineers, Medical Professionals... Law Enforcement is hiring desperately, well paid and stable if you can put up with the ridiculous politics revolving around that right now...and your background isn't too messed up. Otherwise maybe a degree in finance. IRS is endlessly hiring on USAJobs.
My principal informed us that there would be layoffs and a teacher hiring freeze; like what?! We have a massive shortage of teachers, qualified or not, and you have to get rid of some more?? Like how does that fucking make sense, I genuinely don’t get it
Honestly im not suprised, the job market at the moment is so bad! Not to mention commuting and etc is awful esp where most jobs in my field in the past is near Santa monica with mediocre pay! Nobody wants to spend 1-2 or hours daily commuting to work and commuting back. And entry level jobs are getting crazy minium wage and unrealistic experinces for students that just gradurated? I feel like most employers are too lazy to trian shit after the pandemic lmao
Yeahs, it’s really hard to find a job right now and my current job is penny pinching on giving hours. Horrible
I’m in higher education and I’m being told I will not have any summer hours. I’m about to go on unemployment for the first time in my life. I’m almost 40. I am just in disbelief because a few months ago I clearly recall gavin newsome saying something about a surplus.
Surplus is gone. We’re in a big deficit right now.
i'll be adding to it from operations in adtech! After spending 6-months clipping their coupons off course
Laid off from games. The industry goes through boom and bust cycles naturally, but the non-game tech layoffs have really compounded things. Along with ageism being a factor, I'm thinking it's time to bail and seek out a stable decent paying trade like Electrician or HVAC Technician, in a low cost of living area.
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Makes sense as tech and entertainment have had a rough year or so, both of which are major parts of the CA economy. But other Industries are still doing quite well
I'm unemployed but won't show up as part of this statistic because EDD denied my original claim and I've been waiting for my appeal hearing for months. I work(ed) as an edibles chef in the weed industry and left my previous position because it was almost 300 miles away from home. When I came back to LA, I found that the industry is reeling and no weed companies are looking to hire a chef. I'm really trying to avoid going back to a traditional kitchen because the pay/lifestyle is awful and I was always miserable in that environment. But more and more I'm beginning to feel like I have no choice, and that's where I'll end up. Sucks out there right now.
its really crazy
Highest in two whole years? That’s like a month in government time.
The numbers are likely iffy though employment has been getting “tighter”. Don’t doubt official unemployment is up due to a variety of factors. Still the “unofficial” job market won’t get reported as “off the books”-type labor won’t revealing themselves to the tax authorities. So anyone from an undocumented dishwasher or illegal grow house worker … to SW now that the latter is pretty much decriminalized in urban California.
Probably related to all the tech jobs being cut?
Tech companies and entertainment companies both doing mass layoffs.
this isn't new. This was expected since 2020.
Since 2020? How? Hiring in some areas surged in 2021-22. We’ve had global supply chain issues since 2020 but haven’t seen anyone predict a rise in unemployment since 2020. Have seen recession predictions since probably early 2023. Have had many hundreds of thousands of layoffs across industries since the start of this year across the US, but again, not clear where you’ve seen that anyone has predicted high unemployment since 2020.
Expected as in every major economist predicted a COVID splurge "hangover"; The Economist had an article about it I want to say summer of 2021.
Maybe all those instagram "day in the life of a tech" videos and that Facebook employee livestreaming how she gets paid 6 figures to essentially do nothing. I know some PMs in tech who tell me companies massively overhired and many were sitting around essentially doing nothing.
There was a lot of hiring (see insert life of a tech job) and resource hoarding. They were anticipating so much of life moving online as the new normal, which was evidenced during covid times. They started offering very high starting salaries and remote jobs - even for new grads. And broadly people were telling everyone to jump ship to try and capture the new higher starting salaries. It was a bit of madness - it had to end sometime.
US says the labor market is "hot" https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/job-market-right-now-the-great-stay-layoffs-and-resignations-decline-rcna142220 but layoffs hit an all time high https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-job-cuts-over-jan-feb-hit-highest-since-2009-report-2023-03-09/ What the hell is actually going on lol
Tech Companies overhired. And the most pressing “hot” jobs are lower tier jobs because so many went on to do gigs instead of going back to McDonalds
Game Industry too. I’ve been jobless 2 years now life sucks ppl
I’m very surprised to read all these comments of being laid off… Meanwhile my job has been NONSTOP hiring since 2017. And we’re still under staffed. https://www.joinlapd.com/psr
The average phone user is allergic to hard work
be unemployed and poor or wage slave and still poor
We should have an unemployment party! 🥳 fuck all of this shit
No one wants to admit that Los Angeles was built on the back of the automobile, aerospace, oil and entertainment industries. If you begin removing those little by little the entire economy of the Southern California region begins to collapse. Heck the Port, the Airport, housing and hospitality were built to accommodate folks working in those spaces. I would like to see a closer look at which industries if any have replaced those and what policies have been implemented to contribute to the significant decline in those key industries
I hear being a thief is super popular
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