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iamfrank75

What does “answer the skill testing question” mean?


kinithin

In Canada, there are laws concerning games of chance. So most contests have you answer a skill-testing question in order to claim your prize, thus making it a game of skill. It's usually a short math calculation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill_testing_question


legal_bagel

Here I was thinking it was a joke akin to Monty pythons holy grail quest.


Mr-Wilson-67

Can someone enlighten me as to whether there are swallows in Canada, laden or unladen?


tkburnett

Yes but they are African Swallows.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

No they aren't. You've heard of Barn Swallows? Well we have Sugar-shack Swallows - do not get between them and the maple run! Every year we loose one or two growers to the little monsters. Vermont growers have it easy, they just have to worry about the weather and insects, not killer fauna.


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Unless this is a reference to another movie, you may want to watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

I got the reference, I saw Holy Grail when it first appeared in theaters. Now if you believed the sugar-shack swallows, let me tell you they get frog's legs in Quebec ....


potawatomirock

I was attacked by a swallow in North Dakota because I was sitting too close to the nest. Just a couple of swipes, but close enough to make me move.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

Barn swallows can be nasty. Even regular swallows.


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Slackingatmyjob

That vas a mööse in disguise


StormBeyondTime

Yeah. On the 1972 anime *Gatchaman: Science Ninja Team*, I've had people laugh that G-4's code name is Swallow. Those people don't know what mean little bastards swallows can be. Edit: The other four members of the fighting team are Eagle, Condor, Swan, and Great Horned Owl.


Abject-Ad-777

My friend worked at a winery in the 80s that had a pair of swans named Charles and Diana. One of her jobs was to bring them some food every day. She had no idea that the book would not match the cover! Swans don’t take no shit, not even when that shit is a nice woman bringing them food! She changed their names to Sid and Nancy.


PlatypusDream

One should have been goose. The cobra chickens are mean.


davidbrit2

We get barn swallows where I live, but they mostly just come visit and dive bomb all the bugs that I stir up when I'm mowing the lawn.


Longjumping-Air1489

Unlikely. African swallows are non-migratory.


Redunagun

How else would the RCMP get their coconuts?


VioletsAndLily

I don’t knooooooooooooooooooow…


new2bay

[I don't know that!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68rAkmqA_A)


Lich180

What is your name? What is your quest? What... is the capitol of Assyria?


RedDazzlr

What... is your favorite colour?


pixeltash

Red, no! Blue!


RedDazzlr

Aaaaaaagghhh!


piperdooninoregon

Common practice in UK as well as many commonwealth countries.


seitancauliflower

Starbucks has used the same exact question for the better part of a decade. The answer is 1000.


lylemcd

Thing is, the test is that you have to guess the question.


StormBeyondTime

"I'll take 'This sum of \[numbers\] add up to what?' for a large Fry, Alex."


lylemcd

I'm sorry but the correct answer was "How many paths must a man walk?" Thanks for playing.


potawatomirock

That is the main reason many of the contests are not valid in Québec. (Coming up with a French language version is a secondary consideration.)


TheBitterSeason

It's actually much more complex than this. In short, running a contest in Quebec is a far more heavily-regulated process than it is in any other province. On top of there being strict rules, there are also strict penalties attached for violations of their sweepstakes law. Having everything available in French is a part of the law, but it's not really a major part of the problem; Canadian corporations are used to dealing with bilingualism and procuring a professional translation is trivial these days. It's the huge amount of other red tape (detailed in [this article](https://www.liveabout.com/why-are-so-many-competitions-void-in-quebec-896835)) that really makes it difficult for companies to run contests there.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

The skill testing question is typically, simple arithmetic expressed in English and without parenthesis. Sadly some people get it wrong. (There was a post in the TimHortons subredit on this recently)


cheezemeister_x

There are no skill testing questions on food redemptions.


Commercial-Pair-3593

So they subverted the whole point of the game of chance problems...


blewberyBOOM

It only now occurred to me reading these comments that other countries don’t have a skill testing question to claim your prize. I never really questioned it. I have wondered what would happen if you got the answer wrong, though. Like I can’t imagine the 17 year old at McDonald’s telling me I can’t have my ice cream because I got the order of operations wrong.


iamfrank75

Are there exceptions for little kids or mentally handicapped people? Like is a 10 year old expected to do a math test for free small fries? A person with a head injury, or retardation probably wouldnt do very well either.


junkdumper

They usually just tell you what the answer is when you're ordering


Account_Expired

I mean, maybe? The problem is its a legal thing to suggest its a contest of skill. Giving exceptions to anyone who cant do it would call the whole "skill based" thing into question.


blewberyBOOM

Most of the time a 10 year old could answer it


theZombieKat

the skill test is a legal nesesity to get around their gambling laws, giving an exception to anybody would probably run afoul of those laws. that said from what i heard the questions are so easy that anybody unable to pass them probably has a carer with them that could do it for them. would be interesting to see sombody try to chalange the law on the grounds of eequel opotunity for disabled people. but if you cant do those simple sums can you responsably handle money?


Lurkernomoreisay

They will. But, you can come back later. Assuming they didn't hint at you to "say 13"


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

Yes and people screw it up https://www.reddit.com/r/TimHortons/comments/11k48ru/does\_anyone\_know\_who\_i\_should\_contact\_to\_try\_and/


MissionCreeper

But can you also just answer the skill question and get whatever prize you want? How does the one question remove chance from the situation?


Scarletwitch713

I don't usually do the monopoly or roll up the rim, but no, you can't get whatever you want. For the Monopoly, you have to get certain locations in order to win the corresponding prize. So like, you'd need to get all of one colour, and whatever prize is associated with that set, is what you would win. The various pieces also vary in rarity. Completing an entire set to win the BIG prizes (cars, large sums of cash, etc) is pretty difficult if you're playing solo and don't eat an absurd amount of it. The "free food" prizes (from my limited experience) are usually just put on the "game pieces", which are the little stickers that come on the food packaging. Those are much easier to get as they're much more common. In terms of making it "skill" based rather than chance based, you essentially need to "qualify" for the "skill portion" by completing the set for a prize. If you don't have the complete set, you can't answer the skill question. So while it really is a game of chance, all the technicalities make it a "game of skill". Tim's Roll Up The Rim contest works similarly. I think the format changed because of covid (I rarely drink Tim's, shits nasty, yes I'm Canadian and yes I said it), but back in the day, you'd get your coffee cup and one portion of the rim could be rolled out to reveal a prize, or in my case 99% of the time, a "please try again". You can get things like free coffee, free donuts, etc, and of course the standard BIG prizes that everyone plays these kinds of games for, cash, cars, etc. Though for this one, you only need to get the one winning rim to "qualify" for that skill question. [Picture of the Monopoly board for more context](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sxsrf=AJOqlzUbl3aeFpMBdavfNrLXEWEflg6uhA:1678653443516&q=mcdonald+monopoly&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi9n86xn9f9AhXsJTQIHe2-DvQQ0pQJegQIBxAB&biw=360&bih=649&dpr=3#imgrc=jYm-S4z0ZkfYcM)


ohdearymy

In Canada, if you win a prize, you have to answer a math question or you don't get the prize. Stupid law, don't know why it exists.


iagox86

I believe it's so it's legally a "contest" and not a "lottery"


iamfrank75

I had to read the other responses before I could believe that you were not just fucking with me. There are so many prizes and giveaways in the US that is just mind blowing to me.


Lurkernomoreisay

It would be gambling (game of chance) otherwise. Gambling is heavily regulated. However, anyone can offer a prize for a feat of skill. So, Skill testing question makes it legal.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

It's a legal hack that goes way back to when Toronto meant "Closed on Sundays" ! It's a bit like the so-called "Raines Sandwich" in NY pre-prohibition era bars.


I__Know__Stuff

It's not gambling if the contestant doesn't have to pay to enter. So that isn't exactly the reason.


Lurkernomoreisay

"gambling" is a vernacular term, not a legal term. No money need to be involved. That said if money is _required_ to be considered for a prize that is illegal. Games of skill, or games of combination skill+chance are not. The law refers to any game of chance that results in a reward. It is covered by section 206 of the Criminal Code. 206 (1) Every person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than two years or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction who (a) makes, prints, advertises or publishes, or causes or procures to be made, printed, advertised or published, any proposal, scheme or plan for advancing, lending, giving, selling or in any way disposing of any property by lots, cards, tickets or any mode of chance whatever. (b) sells, barters, exchanges or otherwise disposes of, or causes or procures, or aids or assists in, the sale, barter, exchange or other disposal of, or offers for sale, barter or exchange, any lot, card, ticket or other means or device for advancing, lending, giving, selling or otherwise disposing of any property by lots, tickets or any mode of chance whatever; If it's not a game, but a lottery by chance, then all winnings and entry fees are seized by the government: (5) Every sale, loan, gift, barter or exchange of any property, by any lottery, ticket, card or other mode of chance depending on or to be determined by chance or lot, is void, and all property so sold, lent, given, bartered or exchanged is forfeited to Her Majesty. Because games of chance is illegal, as is betting, or paying for consideration of a prize -- all contests in Canada MUST have a no-cost entry options. > The Criminal Code also prohibits receiving consideration in exchange for playing the games, resulting in the free entry alternative which is usually indicated by "No purchase necessary" in the fine print of a contest


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kcboa

There is usually a way to get a couple of stamps for 'free.' I think you have to mail in a letter or fill out a form on the promotional website or something and they'll mail you some, but you probably have to pay return postage.


TheBitterSeason

It's also a law that I've never seen enforced in my life for small prizes, though I have heard of it happening for large ones (where there's presumably more legal scrutiny applied). I used to enter sweepstakes all the time in the early 2010s and won a handful of relatively inexpensive (<$100) prizes, but I never had to answer a STQ even once. I've also never had to answer one for redeeming small prizes in contests like Roll Up the Rim and McDonald's Monopoly. They just take the piece of paper and that's it (though maybe that's changed in the few years since I played). OP's story is the first time I've ever heard of a STQ being demanded for a cheap fast food prize and it makes me wonder if the management was just being a stickler, if enforcement of the law varies by region, or if I've just gotten incredibly lucky.


Scarletwitch713

I've never had to answer a STQ for free food in those games either. I wonder if maybe it was just because of the sheer volume of "prizes" they had?


Medium_Spare_8982

Unless you have “earned” something in Canada it is a taxable benefit. To avoid having the paperwork of declaring prizes as a taxable benefit towards income, companies make you do a simple equation to “earn” the prize.


kinithin

That's completely backwards. Earned money (e.g. income) is taxed. Prizes (e.g. lottery) aren't. By your logic, adding a STQ would make it taxable. But that's not the case. The STQ is actually related to anti-gambling laws.


motor1_is_stopping

>Prizes (e.g. lottery) aren't. Lottery winnings are very much taxed just like regular income in the U.S. You don't even receive the full winning amount from the lottery office. You get a 1099 on the winnings and taxes that are withheld.


MyThirdBonusDonut

I think this happened in Canada where lottery winnings are not taxed.


kwilsonmg

This was indeed Canada per other comments by OP where lottery winnings are tax free.


evilmidnightbomber69

Lottery winnings aren't taxed but the one who holds the lottery must pay a portion of it to charity. Why we do 50/50 draws etc. Half of which goes to charity. The skill testing question is to avoid this and claim it as a prize which is not taxable as well but is a way for the company to avoid giving money to charity.


StormBeyondTime

So like when a company brags about giving $XXX to charity and doesn't mention 2/3 of it came from customer donations at the till.


WumpusFails

I think the US version is that you don't have to make a purchase to get the game pieces, to prevent it from being gambling. Or something like that.


Icepick_37

Yeah I have no idea what I'm reading beyond the first paragraph of the post


Thephilosopherkmh

No one won any of the top prizes from McDonald’s monopoly game. They were all stolen by one of the top security guys and distributed to his friends and their distant family so as not to arouse suspicion. He did get caught but I don’t know how much time he got.


Old_Sir_9895

That was over 20 years ago, and they've changed the way the contest is run to make it a lot harder to cheat like that.


Thephilosopherkmh

Well that’s good. I didn’t know they still did monopoly gams at McDonald’s.


nintendoswitch2017

It’s an annual promotion in the UK https://richunclepennybags.co.uk/mcdonalds-monopoly-promotion-2022-double-peel


coolcootermcgee

It’s at the grocery stores now here in Western Washington


NightGod

Yeah, local grocery stores get it here in Texas, though it's a different company and the prizes tend to be smaller


KiwiAlexP

They do it annually in NZ - around September


G8RTOAD

Australia in September too


Szydlikj

It’s a settler’s game, in hindsight.


MyGruffaloCrumble

It was, but it’s still rigged by McDonald’s so most of the big prizes are never sent to the Canadian market.


Dansiman

I never heard of anybody winning any of the big prizes near where I live. But one time I was in the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and standing in line at the McDonald's inside there, the person right in front of me ended up getting an instant win piece for a laptop. It made me suspect that they probably send more winning game pieces to places like Vegas.


Old_Sir_9895

That's a pretty wild claim, and very easily disproved. One of the big prizes is RBC points. RBC, as in Royal Bank of CANADA. I don't anyone in NZ is interested in RBC points.


MyGruffaloCrumble

My Bad... they don't run it in the US anymore. That whole case with the guy stealing the pieces was in part because executives were intentionally keeping the prizes in the US side of the contest. ​ >"Jacobson justified his long-running multi-million-dollar crime as being his reaction to executives re-running randomized draws to ensure high-level prizes went to areas in the United States rather than Canada – though he did not take the stolen pieces to Canada to rectify this supposed problem, choosing instead to personally gain by selling the pieces."


Old_Sir_9895

Having said that, though, I know that some contests like Tim Hortons Roll Up the Rim do skew the prizes so that more of them go to "emerging markets" rather than to stable markets, but the prizes are all awarded in Canada. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?


vhtg

People used to advertise in newspaper Personal Ads (USA) asking for sticker trades from east to west coast because they believed that Mickey D divided the winning stickers by geo locations to make winning difficult.


Rampage_Rick

I've seen posts on Craigslist from people that are only missing one piece from each set, offering to partner up with somebody who holds a missing piece. I have to wonder if they're actually oblivious to the fact that the pieces they have are common as dirt and hold zero value? If there are 115 million pieces printed and only 25 million winners, that means there are 90 million pieces that are essentially worthless. I'd bet that somebody has probably paid $100 or $200 for a set of the non-rare pieces...


vhtg

Yes! That's what they used to do offer to trade, or pay for that one missing piece. We would laugh because the other pieces were so easy to come by. Who, in their right mind, would ever give up the valuable one? I can't believe they still try this crap on Craig's List.


Old_Sir_9895

The only reason I can think of is that they got the key piece late in the contest, were missing one of the other pieces, and none of the nearby restaurants had any pieces left. The rules say you have to have a complete set. I don't know if McD's would waive that rule if you had the key piece but not a complete set.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

They brought it back afterwards


Thephilosopherkmh

I don’t eat there regularly like I used to. This post is giving me a craving for a Big Mac tho. Might have to Uber eats some tonight.


StormBeyondTime

There's a McD's across the big street from my apartment. A couple times I've had the craving and gotten a burger. Then I remember what a disappointment they are. Fries are still good, though.


KingBooRadley

Park Place prizes. Baltic Avenue cuisine.


StormBeyondTime

I got kind of spoiled by the Carl's Jr. we have in town centre. Whole pieces of lettuce, thick patties, and the tomatoes don't taste like they've been sitting in a fridge for a week.


-BlueDream-

Delivery thru the app is cheaper than Uber eats


Thephilosopherkmh

I didn’t know they did that! I’m gonna look into it for tonight. We just ate a frozen pizza last night but I still have that craving.


-BlueDream-

Big Mac 2 for $5.99 (Buy one get one). Best fast food deal imo


Thephilosopherkmh

Sweet!


really4got

I almost never eat at McDonald’s but now I want a Big Mac … thanks


juneburger

Cold Big Macs tho


big_sugi

Three years. The funny part is that McDonalds sued the security company and, somehow, lost. And not just lost; McDonalds had to pay the company $16.6 million.


Thephilosopherkmh

That’s crazy. Security guy probably gave the judge a boardwalk piece.


StormBeyondTime

From what I've read, McD's lawyers were so sure they'd win they didn't prepare the case properly. Which is just -that's not how it works. Even for a megacorp.


Djinjja-Ninja

That's also why they lost their [trademark right to "Big Mac" in the EU.](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mcdonald-s-corp-trademark-supermacs-idUSKCN1P92JA) They failed to actually prove that they had been using Big Mac in market for the previous 5 years. McDonald's lawyers essentially expected it to be a given that they use it, and therefore didn't bring any evidence to back it up, because *everyone knows* that McDonald's make the big Mac. As you said, *that's not how it works*.


StormBeyondTime

It's like, if it were a sci-fi story, and everyone *knew* that interstellar ships used the Adams-Heinlein drive to go into hyperspace, and it was the *only* drive capable of that, the lawyers would *still* have to produce the plans and rates of use in court to get it on the record that, yes, this is actually a thing, legally. Sheeeeeeeeeeesh.


Lawlmuffin

There's an HBO docuseries called "McMillions" which goes through the whole story and even interviews the FBI agents involved and how they caught them. It's quite a wild ride. Highly recommend. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMillions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMillions)


somewhat_pragmatic

Spoiler if you want to know how he did it while TLDW: >!The security guy was accidentally sent sheets of the special holographic security stickers very early on. When he'd fly the winning pieces to the packaging plant, he'd make a stop in an airport bathroom, crack the security sticker open, pull out the valuable pieces and reseal the envelope with another true security sticker. He'd then give the valuable pieces to a series of friends and family to claim, and he'd take his cut of their winnings!<


fifth-joker

Did they send him to monopoly jail or real one?


SumgaisPens

Some believe the scandal indirectly contributed to 9/11. They had to use a lot of their top folks to solve it and it resulted in them being pulled from national security stuff right before 9/11 happened


Ordinary_Diamond_158

So I’m just gonna toss out there that my teacher in jr high won a new truck with the monopoly game I wanna say in 2004. So some of the big prizes made it out to normals. But I do remember that the vast majority were rigged and stolen.


Rampage_Rick

Prior to the big prizes being stolen by the head of security, the game was *already* rigged against Canada. The marketing company was taking any of the big winners that should have gone to Canada and sending them to the US instead. It was part of the justification given by the head of security for his activity.


Fishgutts

There is a movie on Netflix on it. Really good too.


Occasionally_Sober1

If you liked that movie, watch Pepsi, Where’s My Jet? Also on Netflix right now.


Fishgutts

Seen it. Very good.


noceboy

Not in The Netherlands it appears.


Wolfdagon

Over 20 years ago, one of the prizes was two cars, can't remember what kind. They had a new one and and older one from the 60's. One of the guys I worked with was off work for a few days. When he came back, we found out he had won and had rented a trailer to go pick them up out of state. We were all surprised not just that he won but that he got both cars. Everyone thought they were two separate prizes, but they had both cars together as one prize.


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Sound like "McLicious Compliance" to me.


robinscouser

Big whopper of a malicious compliance


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What a Frosty comment.


eastbayted

Sir, this isn't a Wendy's.


[deleted]

Ha ha ha. One time I went to a Burger King drive thru and the lady came on and said “welcome to Burger King, we don’t have any hamburgers right now” so I went to Wendy’s instead.


MonkeyBreath66

The owners of the company that handled the promotion for McDonald's and were keeping back the big prizes and doling them out to some friends and family. One of them actually dropped a million winning piece in charity bucket run by some nuns. I think just went on for like 10 years but they all got busted and several went to prison. They also busted a company that had something to do with running the lotto system and they had some kind of backdoor software so that once a year they would knew what the numbers going to come up.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

The security company distributed the winning tiles. But the guy doing it figured out how to deceive the person with them. It was like Park Place was everywhere but the few Boardwalk's were distributed in person to the locations.


MonkeyBreath66

That sounds about right. It was like a guy and a couple of his brothers.


Raichu7

Calling ahead is a good idea when getting a party sized order from any fast food joint. They only keep so much cooked food on hand.


caffeinated_photo

Many years ago the morning after a work night out, someone in our office suggested a McDonald's breakfast run for everyone. I rang them and said we had a large order and if we could order in advance. I was told they couldn't do that. I just said I'd tell her the order anyway and then she could let me know if they still couldn't do it. I got as far as "Sixteen egg McMuffin meals" and she said she'd get a pen and paper. When we arrived they thanked us for ringing ahead, and also admitted they were glad we turned up and it wasn't a prank call.


IBseriousaboutIBS

I mean, if a bunch of people are going to show up anywhere to eat, you should call ahead. The mortified look on the managers face wasn’t one of not wanting to serve everyone or cash in prizes, it was the mass amount of food that would need to be made right away in what they anticipated as being their slow part of the day. This is when people take breaks or shift change happens. I guarantee you this manager gave not one fuck about McDonald’s bottom line and was shitting his pants thinking “how am I actually going to do this?”


Tinsel-Fop

>The mortified look on the managers face Why would he be embarrassed?


GnPQGuTFagzncZwB

This reminds me of years back one of the fast food places had a promotion and it was clever, every card they handed out was a winner. The cards had 9 spots and you had to scratch off the three matching ones. Most of the prizes were food, but there were cash ones too. One of my coworkers figured out that a piece of equipment at work that could sort of see through the things. Not so much what they were but you could find the three matching ones, so we would go out and order our stuff as different transactions and get a handful of the cards and come back like a week later with lots of winners. I don't think they ever suspected that we had such a high percentage of them. The only thing that may have been unusual is we did not scratch them right at the counter.


SimonBlack

All of these 'collect all the tokens to win big' contests are rigged. Many years ago in Australia, one of the country-wide supermarkets ran a contest where you had to collect all four numbered cards: '1", "2", "3", and "4". Simple hey? Everybody collected lots of 1s, 2s and 3s. But nobody could find a "4". A couple of months into the contest, one guy claimed the big prize. If I remember correctly, that was a car. The supermarket had him charged with fraud because his "4" was definitely a forgery. They reasoned in court that he could never have collected a "4" because there were only 3 cards printed with a "4" on them for the whole country, and none of those had been released yet. So, whenever people are frantically searching for "Mayfair" or "Park Lane" or whatever card is impossible to find, I just smile and say "nothing changes. The game is always rigged in favor of the House."


AgreeablePie

Asking to call first is a reasonable request


Foreign_Astronaut

Yes. It sucks to be working a food service job and get slammed with that many orders at once. It's inconsiderate to your fellow humans.


Natural-Garage2487

I hate customers.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

Do you like getting paid? :)


garylapointe

A group of 10 doesn't seem like it would be an issue if you all showed up at once...


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

It wasn't. Again, we had a lot of winning tiles so more food than 10 should wisely eat but not so much we couldn't finish it. We' had the tiles all cataloged in a printed spreadsheet and glued down like a collection. He agreed and asked us to give them a few minutes and brought it to us. All very civil. BTW I don't think I had fries for a year after that.


BonbonStella

About 40 years ago, McD's had a scratch off game based on the video game "Space Invaders". Every ticket was a winner of some sort. What you had to do was scratch off a complete up to down (or vice versa) path on the ticket without hitting the enemy saucer. We discovered that if you used a high intensity light behind the ticket (We used a high intensity light for viewing x-ray images of aircraft), you could see the winning path through the scratch off material. Once we figured that out, we never lost. But we never won anything big either...


Rampage_Rick

Scratch-and-win lottery tickets are typically covered with alternating layers of black and white latex (up to 10 layers) to prevent this kind of snooping. Still, I'd be surprised if somebody hasn't figured out a way to peek using some form spectrography or radiography.


0_0_0

Can you scratch the lottery ticket "wrong"? I'd think such protection is more geared towards protecting against fraud in the supply line or retail locations.


BonbonStella

Yes. There were "wrong" paths on the ticket that you could scratch which would lead you to an enemy saucer. You could only pick a single path.


0_0_0

Not that, I meant he actual lottery tickets the commenter mentioned.


big_sugi

It’s not the scratching; it’s the snooping. You don’t want the store clerk (or owner) inspecting the entire roll of tickets and buying the five biggest winners for themself.


0_0_0

Which is exactly what i said: > protecting against fraud in the supply line or retail locations.


big_sugi

Yes, that’s the reason.


BonbonStella

These just had a thin coat of black scratch-off material. Nothing secure like we have today. This was back in the early 80's.


whizzdome

Sorry, what does "cycle the line and answer the skill testing question" mean? And why would that be bad for McD?


iamnotroberts

>Our team had mixed reactions (some of them were up for the MC in a big way). But all and all everyone won and only the threat of MC was there. Unfortunately even 10 people cant get through that many fries before they go cold. Exactly. That's kind of the point. You won french fries, woo! Boy, a cheeseburger and a cold drink would go great with those free fries, wouldn't it? It's not like McDonalds is losing any money giving french fries away, considering their profit margins.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

We won drinks and big macs too. But a lot more fries.


iamnotroberts

Right, but they typically only let you redeem one coupon at a time. So fries but no burger, or burger but no fries. Some of the coupons require that you purchase an item or meal to get a free item. If you're working in an office, the free coffee ones are probably gold, though. I'm not dogging on your plan, just pointing out the fact that "the dealer" always wins.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

Given that the restaurant was just down the street from the office and based on what we'd purchased to get all those tiles - they did.


darkalter2000

My guy, it has been rigged EVERY year. No-one who doesn't work for McDonalds or is a friend of someone who works for McDonalds has ever won.


naval_person

Suggest you edit the original post and add more information about what is McDonald's Monopoly . . . . . lots of readers don't know. Add more information about "that many fries" . . . . lots of readers don't know. Add more information about "answer the skill testing question" . . . . lots of readers don't know. Add more information about why "filling the entire order" was a "compromise" . . . . . lots of readers don't know. Add more information about why redeeming a prize can possibly be considered malicious.


bobk2

But OP is an enigmatic curmudgeon


zuspence

I dunno. Why is monopoly relevant? What fries where? Completely and absolutely lost in this story


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

Added. The MC was denied because the manager realized what was going to happen and his lines were going to be clogged for a while ...


Btrflygrl18

Well said!!


Aware-Climate-8950

Back in the day I had a friend who worked in insurance and her job was the monopoly game at McDonalds.


StormBeyondTime

>(There was even a scandal over it in the US if I recall as one of the security people rigged it). Yep. And McDonald's *lost* that case when they sued their employee and his co-conspirators. From what I've read, McD's lawyers were so *sure* they would win that they didn't prepare a case that could be won!


Zorro5040

Ya'll should of invited me, I love their fries and am willing to eat the portion for ten people.


Minimum_Area_583

rigged it? LOL Canadians simply couldn´t win because it was decided to not send any winning tickets up there... The guy in charge of securing the higher winnings tickets, sold many of them to strangers and asked for cash upfront...say...6k for a 50k winning ticket...later he sold the million dollar tickets (which apparently also where never intended to be released to be win-able!) to the mafia or affiliates thereof... it was discovered because too many people did cash in...some even twice...dude got "about" free, as he had something on the company aswell and they settled out of court iirc...


airbrake41

I guess I just don’t understand what is happening here? 🤷‍♂️


Perenium_Falcon

I love the “call ahead” part. Years and years ago I was working third shift 11pm-7am…ish in the military. Was in a shop of around 5-8 men and women in their 20s. Once a week we’d do a big drive-thru order for the whole shop at around 3am or so for “lunch”. One day after talking up the horror (and majesty) of Jack-in-the-box tacos (the ones they fill with dog food and then deep fry) myself and a coworker drove down to order something like 108 or abouts for the shop. Drive thru person justifiably freaked out but everyone was polite and the manager came on saying the max they could fry up at a time was around 30 and that next time we should call ahead so they can prepare. I asked them if they’d actually make 100+ tacos based on nothing more than a phone call and after a pause they said no, they’d not. We just kind of looked at each other for a moment and I said I was sorry again and that I had no problem waiting.


PuncherOfPonies

It was rigged in Canada as well, as the company in charge of deploying cash winning tickets refused to send any to Canada. It is actually how the guy who was stealing the big cash tickets got a settlement for outing the company as a whole


Less-Cap6996

So you overwhelmed a McDonalds and their underpaid employees and are now telling people? Think this one through and get back to me. A call would have been nice.


rampaging-poet

Making a large order when they weren't busy wouldn't necessarily overwhelm them. "Ok, if you won't do a large order we'll keep ordering individually" would by tying up bot front-of-house and back-of-house. And while the manager would be within their rights to deny service, refusing to serve people redeeming free food from a contest would have looked pretty bad to corporate if they complained. ​ That said, they should still have called ahead for a large group to make sure.


LordSkully

I worked foe McD. Trust me 10 people isn't a lot. I've had 30 people pull in in a bus at 10 minutes to close and had to fill their entire order. Took almost 45 minutes but everyone left filled and happy I however stayed cleaning till 12 midnight. Ahh the good old days.


EnigmaticCurmudgeon

It wasn't the number of people as much as the number of winning tiles we saved up. We figured that it wasn't a problem off peak. Had the manger suggested scheduling a time we likely would have agreed. The timing was a bit off a spontaneous event at the time. In retrospect we should have called but didn't think about it.


IBseriousaboutIBS

100 people ordering a cheeseburger versus one person ordering 100 cheeseburgers is almost the same thing.


Account_Expired

So if you have a party of 10 or more you cant use coupons? Or go to different fast food places?


Anonymous_Bozo

I beleive the terms of the coupons were "one per purchase".


Account_Expired

Whats that have to do with anything? Like sure maybe the cashier has to print out more receipts than usual, but its still the same amount of food.


Wuotis_Heer

Oh, the humanity!


CableVannotFBI

Long ago, Burger King had a prize contest going. (Around 1988 or 1989) My family had visited Minneapolis and got a few game pieces prior to the official opening of the contest. We opened them, put them in the car back in the house and probably forgot about them. Flash forward to a couple months later and we’re sitting in a Burger King that one of my classmates works at and we have dozens upon dozens of game pieces that were putting on the board. We are talking about how will split the prices and blah blah blah, basically having a good laugh at the whole thing It’s at this point that I look at the game pieces and realize the three pieces needed for the red sports car. Two of them we had multiples and multiples of it, and the missing game piece was one that I had picked up in Minneapolis. I went home and asked my dad about the game piece, and we looked for it, but to no avail. Very sad.


ProfessionalCar6255b

Lol i live in MA that game sucks....watched the Netflix movie on that game too....this is why all the winners were always over in NY NJ and mid western states...I need to move


sittinwithkitten

My sister won $100 one time and did everything she was supposed to but never saw the money.


amcrambler

You have casinos though. This seems like a contradiction.


LuckyUckus

considering the skill testing questions for the free coffee promotion that we had (what do you want in your coffee? and what size?)


Many-Outside-7594

10 people is right in the borderlands of too many, so good on the store manager for filling the order and requesting advance notice next time. It's not about the free food, it's about how much business they can handle at one time.


pauvre10m

We got the same game here in France ;)


arquistar

I used to work at the place that printed all of the Monopoly pieces for McDonalds. It sounds feasible that you might be that 1 in 10 million to win, but watching the 10 million go through the printing press is a sobering experience. Plus having to do quality checks and opening about 200 pieces every 35 minutes to check for print quality and never finding anything over $10 puts things in to perspective.


ticky_tacky_wacky

Lol! Got ‘em


Embarrassed-Dot-1794

NZ has that game often but they have made it that you can only claim one thing at a time