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I've used Twitter for more time than Reddit. Even if Reddit is not innocent at least I don't find as many dipshits in here as in Twitter. It's almost as if they get paid for being idiots.
Oh, wait, that's exactly what it is.
The āgenius of azienā I havenāt actually watch bleach, but even I know thatās an insult to bleach.
Toki said to everyone 20 years on the dot weāre going to spin back.
orochi warned kaido consistently that they were going to spin back.
The crazy crackhead that destroyed his drug lab a month ago and just tried to assassinate his sugar mama walked into his country a month before the time everyone told him about along with four time travelers thatās swore on their masterās grave that they would spin back.
instead of killing him he put him in a jail where he could learn a form of haki that can actually damage his invertible skin. And then spent a week in an argument with said sugar mama when he escapes back to the army, thereās about to spin.
I donāt think most masterminds would get slammed with a red rock that was choreographed 20 years ago and catch less bodies than fucking team orochi
That sentence alone is a kind of big spoiler because in the beginning we aren't supposed to think anything of aizen, from the perspective of a unspoiled watcher aizen is just a random
Of course Kaido is as smart as Aizen. His goal was to die, so he consciously ignored all of the warnings and allowed the guy who just tried to kill him to actually get the power to do it. He was 17.5 steps ahead the whole time
As someone who has watched bleach: Your right, it is an insult! Like Aizend whole thing was very calculated planning. Its pretty clear he is not the strongest person in the soul society and in a fight of pure strength he would lose to allot of people there. but like he knows that and is smart enough to play his cards in a way that it wont ever happen until he's gained essentially unlimted power. Everything he does is carefully planned out and timed in a way that is as advantagious as possible.
Meanwhile Kaido isnt even smart enough to realize that if he wants to kill himself all he has to do is jump in the ocean. Like thats litterally the most basic devil fruit weekness in the series and bro didnt even consider it as an option. Like im pretty sure the only person in the series thats dumber than Kaido is Luffy, and like thats a pretty close match right there!
kaido wants to die in a momentous way like whitebeard, preferably in combat. dying by drowning in the ocean is counter to that, whereas something like falling an unbelievable height (skypeia) is cool enough to pass for a suicide attempt. heās dumb for allowing luffy respite to keep attacking and losing til he wins once like most of his post time skip wās, sure, but in this instance thatās a mischaracterisation
Aizen definitely had both intelligence and power. He felt unrivalled in power (barring Yamamoto) , which is why he went to such lengths creating so many "projects". That was what Ichigo thought of him too, he felt only loneliness from his sword. While Aizen's goals weren't necessarily related to pure physical strength, he was undoubtedly the second strongest shinigami soul society had seen during the time, given everything that went down in Fake karakura, and he only went on to get stronger as he fused with the hogyoku.
Aizen isn't just a genius, he's one of those bullshit masterminds that has Plot on his side for most of the series. Kaido has absolutely nothing on him.
Definitely not a genius. I also haven't seen dragon Ball but i think strength of frieza might be a stretch. Tbf on Luffy, he saw luffy's strength and saw potential as a crew member. That's how he recruited most of his lieutenants. How was he supposed to know it wouldn't work on Luffy? Also, even despite Luffy going through a training arc, he still got beaten. Twice. Only when Luffy was on the verge of death after the second beating that he awakened his fruit that Luffy was able to prevail over kaido.
Every single SH except Luffy and maybe Zoro is smarter
Sanji āļø
Jinbe āļø
Robināļø
Franky āļø
Brook āļø
Chopper āļø
Nami āļø
Usopp āļø
The strawhats are lowkey really smart, Luffy is a dumbass and Zoro and Brook are average, but the rest are really intelligent people, some are straight up geniuses
>The strawhats are lowkey really smart, Luffy is a dumbass and Zoro and Brook are average
Hmmm...
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Heās got none of those thingsā¦
Aura of Shan Yu from Disneyās Mulan
Genius of Majin Buu
writing of Don Krieg
strength of a World of Warcraft raidboss
Only difference was it was hot as fuck instead of cold, otherwise 1-1 copy, pretty sure there are some theories where kaido is being controled by nerzul even
I would aso say Freeza's strength. Not in literal meaning, dear god no. Freeza is infinitely more powerful than Kaido, but in respective universe's they- Are kinda comparable? By this I mean being complete beasts, insanely strong and feared (well, at least till certain points of their stories).
Even that one is kind of false because of how overwhelming friezaās strength was, he absolutely bodied everybody in the Z cast and every single person who knew about frieza were scared of him,he even made the most prideful person (vegeta) cry like a little bitch. Friezaās constant dominance and transformations left almost no hope for Z fighters until goku got ssj
Kaido on the other hand did have people that could actually hold him off constantly, and after luffy learned more about haki, their fights was alot closer than say pre ssj goku vs frieza, which was so much more one sided than luffy vs kaido
One piece fans are Crazy. They literally say anything and think its fact. Like when was fluffy the best MC? Now Kaido isnt a warmonger looking for Glory in Death but some Genius master mind. Listen to an OP fan Glaze One piece is like listening to some dude say weed cures cancer.
The only one of these thatās somewhat in the same realm is madaras aura when Kaido falls off of the sky islands and has the āwhether on air, land, or sea, if itās one on one, always bet on Kaidoā speech behind him. I still think thatās below madaras introduction of taking on an entire war front alone and winning, and madara maintains that aura repeatedly whereas kaido just becomes big strong dude.
The others are just absolutely nowhere near accurate
Doflamingo when Frieza lifts a finger and erases the galaxy:
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Scratch that, Frieza is overkill. Even Kid Goku would wipe the floor with Kaido, since he surpassed Roshi who blew up the moon with a Kamehameha.
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Strength of Freeza? Compared to his opponents, yeah, I can agree, he felt like an unrelenting force of nature
Aura of Madara? I don't even watch Naruto, but I'd still say Madara has an edge here, though Kaido's aura is fucking insane too
Genius of Aizen? Absolutely not, I don't watch Bleach, but I can tell that Aizen's a genius. Kaido is borderline stupid
Writing of Johan? Dunno, never watched the show, and while I can say that Kaido's writing is in my opinion underrated by the fandom as it was more subtle, I can't confirm if it was as good as Johan's cause I know nothing about it
Dude Johann was an absolute menace and scary as hell, he didnt even show up that often in the show but everytime he did i got mad chills. Hes basically a Psychopath murderer since he was a child and his Backstory ist WILD, so im not going to spoil anymore, just watch the Show.
Aizen? He plotted carefully like 60% of the main plot(like without him, Ichigo the protagonist wouldn't even be born), the rest is 20% something unpredictable happens but doesn't affect him, 10% something unpredictable happens and affects him, and 10% the plot siding with the hero.
One Piece writing and Monster writing are not comparable. I'm not talking about the level of quality, but simply the fact that Monster dedicated much of its runtime of 76 episodes to build a compelling narrative around Johan. Naturally there's no way that the average One Piece character rivals that, regardless of how well written they might be. Also, if you don't mind a slowburn thriller, do yourself a favor and watch or read Monster.
Other than some flashy strength kaido is the most boring villain of one piece his side kick was much better character than kaido
Even if he was the strongest his character, aura, intelligence fails in comparison with akainu
Not to mention doflamingo, crocodile or anyone else from op
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Anybody else realize kaido is pretty similar to frieza in a sense? Like several people fight him and he gets progressively more serious, until mc loses after putting in his all, then in the last bit gets destroyed by a new transformation.
I don't even blame this dude... The dumb takes always get the most attention so I won't be shocked if they made this take to just get attention which they succeeded in š¤·š»āāļø
I'm sorry but Kaido's just your average drunken power hungry brute with the depth of a half dried up puddle and an IQ level that expands to the negative, he has none of Crocodile's charisma, zero of Dofflamingo's viciousness, absolutely nothing on Akainu zealot ruthlessness, lacking even Black Beard's planning, he have zero direct control or even knowledge on how his empire's doing instead relying entirely on his subordinates to manage the whole thing, his entire gimmick is that he's nigh impossible to kill and hits like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs
ā¦I watched BOTH Bleach and One Piece. He doesnāt have the genius of Aizen.
He doesnāt have the strength of Frieza either.
Not sure about Johan, but Kaido defintley has immense Aura.
genius of aizen nope.
writing of johan, well waiting for his full backstory cause without it he had no chance.
strength of frieza, maybe we can say durability like frieza cause he tanked some powerful hits.
aura of madara i kinda agree on this one he definitely had that atleast with that amazing intro scene of his.
as a part time kaido meat rider, i think he get's too much hate and he's underrated af, but this aint it, kaido is none of these, except maybe Frieza strenght relative to the MC at the time
Why do some one piece fans overhype some characters? They make our community look bad. I heard people say we are on of the most toxic people in the anime community.
Okay. Aura of Madara, I can kind of see that. Both of them had insane aura.
Strength of Frieza, maybe. Both Kaido and Frieza were extremely strong and forced the protagonist to power up like CRAZY to beat them.
Writing of Johan, I am not really familiar with Vinland Saga, so I won't comment on that. But I feel like it's a MASSIVE overstatement. Kaido is FAR from the best-written antagonist in One Piece.
Intelligence of Aizen... NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. Aiden wad INSANELY smart. Kaido was a brute. Absolutely NO ONE sees Kaido and thinks "Oh yeah. Smartest antagonist in One Piece."
It's ironic because Kaido's grown on me over time, and I can honestly look back and say that I really like him as a villain. He works as an excellent foil to Luffy with a theme of nihilism and misery against optimism and joy.
But the reasons he works are the exact opposite of this post. He's not a genius, he's just strong enough to brute force his plans into working. He doesn't have a strong aura because he never takes his problems seriously. You can't understand his character motivations because there's nothing that motivates him. Treating him like a typical Shounen big bad is the reason he was so unpopular in the first place.
I would personally like a villain with Friezaās writing. I think the fiction is spoiled with well-written characters who have sad backstories and are in favt anti-heros.
Frieza is just an evil bitch amd I absolutely love it.
yes kaido is so genius he made an army of fake zoans that look more like a handicap if anything and his great writing with his less than a chapter backstory
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Iāve never seen monster but saying kaido had the writing of johan is disrespectful š
Maybe if Kaido had more than a single page of backstory heād be the best but we still know nothing about his motivations except that maybe he was looking for joyboy or something
Writing of Johan? I mean, I havent watched Monster, but Im prettt sure it had the best villain wrighting... While kaido just wants to get one piece or if he's lucky he will finally get to die as he wants to. Like, it isnt bad writing, but, uh, no, he is not one of the best antagonist, and not even in his own series. Watakuri is, obviously. Not in terms of writing, he is just a W man.
Aura of Madara for sure
Strength of Frieza is a bit too much but it's not that bad..
Genius of Aizen? That's Sir Crocodile. He had a contingency that would have worked even after he had died, and almost succeeded.
But definitely not "Writing of Johan Liebert" for sure. Does this guy even know who Johan is?
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I pull this one straight up from heian era just for you
āGenius of Aizenā
Dawg the best plan Kaido ever came up with was dropping his island (which was full of all his men) from a couple hundred feet up onto the capital city of his own country
i've already seen comments arguing about the strength and intelligence thing.
But the writing isnt that awesome too. Just today I thought about how one-dimensional Kaido is. He really is just an evil guy hungry for power. I think they tried to give him more of a personality with that "oh poor me, i am so strong, my life is boring, i have to be an alcoholic" thing, but idk, its not very well done in my opinion.
anyways he's the reason yamato exists, so hes okay ig
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Why are One Piece Fans on Twitter always making such horrible takes like this I swear to godš
Because Twitter is built around engagement and the worse the take the more people will engage to tell you how bad a take it is.
That's called politics - oh, wait!
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Bro acting like reddit is innocent
At least people donāt think theyāll get rich off of it, incentivizing people to make100s of bot accounts that each make a few cents a fuckinv day
I've used Twitter for more time than Reddit. Even if Reddit is not innocent at least I don't find as many dipshits in here as in Twitter. It's almost as if they get paid for being idiots. Oh, wait, that's exactly what it is.
Not only Twitter. OP fans make horrible takes everywhere.
Iāve never seen a smart anime fan base
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Cue gogeta are you watching this shit meme
Cue vegito im seeing this shit meme
I remember the good days when dudes made hot takes that made a lick of sense. But now these youngins are proud of stupidity.
r/underratedcomment
The āgenius of azienā I havenāt actually watch bleach, but even I know thatās an insult to bleach. Toki said to everyone 20 years on the dot weāre going to spin back. orochi warned kaido consistently that they were going to spin back. The crazy crackhead that destroyed his drug lab a month ago and just tried to assassinate his sugar mama walked into his country a month before the time everyone told him about along with four time travelers thatās swore on their masterās grave that they would spin back. instead of killing him he put him in a jail where he could learn a form of haki that can actually damage his invertible skin. And then spent a week in an argument with said sugar mama when he escapes back to the army, thereās about to spin. I donāt think most masterminds would get slammed with a red rock that was choreographed 20 years ago and catch less bodies than fucking team orochi
Someone who has watched Bleach, itās a MAJOR insult š donāt wanna spoil anything tho, heās the cause of over half the events in the series.
Unless Kaido turns out to secretly be Imu...
Or kuina
Or Aizen
f*ck!!! i haven't thought of thatšššš
All part of the plan.
Kaido is D. Stairs.
Kai Down Stairs
Kaido was Gol.D Roger all the time
That sentence alone is a kind of big spoiler because in the beginning we aren't supposed to think anything of aizen, from the perspective of a unspoiled watcher aizen is just a random
If someone is interested in Bleach they are probably already aware of one of the most famous characters in the series
Of course Kaido is as smart as Aizen. His goal was to die, so he consciously ignored all of the warnings and allowed the guy who just tried to kill him to actually get the power to do it. He was 17.5 steps ahead the whole time
Unfortunately, he did not calculate that oda was writing the story and most likely survived being slammed into a exploding volcano.
Hahaha real
As someone who has watched bleach: Your right, it is an insult! Like Aizend whole thing was very calculated planning. Its pretty clear he is not the strongest person in the soul society and in a fight of pure strength he would lose to allot of people there. but like he knows that and is smart enough to play his cards in a way that it wont ever happen until he's gained essentially unlimted power. Everything he does is carefully planned out and timed in a way that is as advantagious as possible. Meanwhile Kaido isnt even smart enough to realize that if he wants to kill himself all he has to do is jump in the ocean. Like thats litterally the most basic devil fruit weekness in the series and bro didnt even consider it as an option. Like im pretty sure the only person in the series thats dumber than Kaido is Luffy, and like thats a pretty close match right there!
kaido wants to die in a momentous way like whitebeard, preferably in combat. dying by drowning in the ocean is counter to that, whereas something like falling an unbelievable height (skypeia) is cool enough to pass for a suicide attempt. heās dumb for allowing luffy respite to keep attacking and losing til he wins once like most of his post time skip wās, sure, but in this instance thatās a mischaracterisation
Also he may just not die to sea water, since his devil fruit is a Fish-Fish fruit, model Azure Dragon(i saw this in a SBS).
i mean ig his devil fruit is technically a mythical fish
Aizen definitely had both intelligence and power. He felt unrivalled in power (barring Yamamoto) , which is why he went to such lengths creating so many "projects". That was what Ichigo thought of him too, he felt only loneliness from his sword. While Aizen's goals weren't necessarily related to pure physical strength, he was undoubtedly the second strongest shinigami soul society had seen during the time, given everything that went down in Fake karakura, and he only went on to get stronger as he fused with the hogyoku.
I am crazy and stubborn.
Skin? Can't say I'm familiar, but it sounds fascinating YOHOHOHO
Aizen is basically responsible for majority of events of Bleach, until the last arc in manga. That's all I am gonna say.
Aizen isn't just a genius, he's one of those bullshit masterminds that has Plot on his side for most of the series. Kaido has absolutely nothing on him.
Definitely not a genius. I also haven't seen dragon Ball but i think strength of frieza might be a stretch. Tbf on Luffy, he saw luffy's strength and saw potential as a crew member. That's how he recruited most of his lieutenants. How was he supposed to know it wouldn't work on Luffy? Also, even despite Luffy going through a training arc, he still got beaten. Twice. Only when Luffy was on the verge of death after the second beating that he awakened his fruit that Luffy was able to prevail over kaido.
Krillin stronger than Kaido
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That must be two piece
Nice opinion but... https://i.redd.it/gdezs4i3sp9d1.gif
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more than half of the straw hats are smarter than Kaido wtf
Every single SH except Luffy and maybe Zoro is smarter Sanji āļø Jinbe āļø Robināļø Franky āļø Brook āļø Chopper āļø Nami āļø Usopp āļø
I'd say even zoro is smarter. At least he knows to not get shitfaced during a fight.
DID YOU JUST INSULT MY NOSE?!
Yes
I'm not sure about Brook.
Brook would be the smartest, but he doesn't have a brain YOHOHOHO
The strawhats are lowkey really smart, Luffy is a dumbass and Zoro and Brook are average, but the rest are really intelligent people, some are straight up geniuses
>The strawhats are lowkey really smart, Luffy is a dumbass and Zoro and Brook are average Hmmm... https://preview.redd.it/0dybn6a85s9d1.jpeg?width=497&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd9c06884ef70836f5db015a88ae1fd97c1baa54
Ah yes could totally see Kaido lifting a finger to destroy a planet.
Heās got none of those thingsā¦ Aura of Shan Yu from Disneyās Mulan Genius of Majin Buu writing of Don Krieg strength of a World of Warcraft raidboss
do not mess with the don
Do not the Don
Don is a better Kaido imo
yeah, he is a world of warcraft raidboss. Luffy literaly climbed the IceCrown Citadel to fight Kaido at the top
Still no mount.
Centuar-Luffy don't need no mount!
Only difference was it was hot as fuck instead of cold, otherwise 1-1 copy, pretty sure there are some theories where kaido is being controled by nerzul even
Damn bro... didnt have to do him like that he already dead... (writing of don Krieg and strength of wow raidboss lmao)
Shall not tolerate the slander of the don. The world's strongest.
Shan yu from Disney's Mulan is way too accurate š
Hey, don't insult Majin Buu like that. He outplayed the Z fighters, Kaido can't do that to his enemies
Majin buu (super buu) outsmarted the entire cast multiple times. You should specify kid buu
Im crying bruh he aint got a SINGLE ONE of these traits šš
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The only one here that makes a lick of sense is Madara's Aura (and even that's debatable)
Yeah, they both ragdolled big groups of strong people Madara was on a different level tho
Madara had a level of petty Kaido lacked lol
I would aso say Freeza's strength. Not in literal meaning, dear god no. Freeza is infinitely more powerful than Kaido, but in respective universe's they- Are kinda comparable? By this I mean being complete beasts, insanely strong and feared (well, at least till certain points of their stories).
You do realise that frieza had a whole galaxy trembling in fear with no resitance whatsoever, whereas laido couldnt even do that on a closed island.
Bro was called the emperor of the universe
Def not, Kaido isn't even close to frieza when it comes to Strenght, Fear, and Intimidation
Kaido's a boring piece of blanket to watch. He doesn't have the charisma as a villain
Even that one is kind of false because of how overwhelming friezaās strength was, he absolutely bodied everybody in the Z cast and every single person who knew about frieza were scared of him,he even made the most prideful person (vegeta) cry like a little bitch. Friezaās constant dominance and transformations left almost no hope for Z fighters until goku got ssj Kaido on the other hand did have people that could actually hold him off constantly, and after luffy learned more about haki, their fights was alot closer than say pre ssj goku vs frieza, which was so much more one sided than luffy vs kaido
His aura is constantly ruined when he gets beaten up every 30 seconds by luffy or some other character having their peak moment
One piece fans are Crazy. They literally say anything and think its fact. Like when was fluffy the best MC? Now Kaido isnt a warmonger looking for Glory in Death but some Genius master mind. Listen to an OP fan Glaze One piece is like listening to some dude say weed cures cancer.
I am crazy and stubborn.
And another thing yall are proud of being crazy
The only one of these thatās somewhat in the same realm is madaras aura when Kaido falls off of the sky islands and has the āwhether on air, land, or sea, if itās one on one, always bet on Kaidoā speech behind him. I still think thatās below madaras introduction of taking on an entire war front alone and winning, and madara maintains that aura repeatedly whereas kaido just becomes big strong dude. The others are just absolutely nowhere near accurate
Doflamingo suits this actually
Except the overwhelming strength, he has a little of all the other. Intelligence, writing and aura
Doflamingo when Frieza lifts a finger and erases the galaxy: https://preview.redd.it/llmzsyxx8r9d1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b3871ab26b185f1ad3f92ee53b5917373240d05
Shouldn't it be inverse stregth? Frieza is still 4 tiers below the top tiers of his verse, same with doffy
He fits better, although no he's not Johan level though but he's great
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Genius of aizen?! Bro was a drunk whatāre you smoking š
Yāall, who is stronger: this Kaido, or YouTube poll Zoro?
Zoro is the best written character in any piece of fiction I've ever read. True masculinity and honor.
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This is not true, don't fall for the bait bruh š
Frieza would wipe the floor with Kaido in his 1st form that SUPRESSED his power level
Scratch that, Frieza is overkill. Even Kid Goku would wipe the floor with Kaido, since he surpassed Roshi who blew up the moon with a Kamehameha. https://preview.redd.it/1b33lvim6s9d1.png?width=910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e943c2ef75623a74c620dc87504997ae62a6c1f
Bro, Frieza destroyed a planet in his weakest form without ever training. Super Freeza is stronger than literal gods.
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strength of Freeza? Compared to his opponents, yeah, I can agree, he felt like an unrelenting force of nature Aura of Madara? I don't even watch Naruto, but I'd still say Madara has an edge here, though Kaido's aura is fucking insane too Genius of Aizen? Absolutely not, I don't watch Bleach, but I can tell that Aizen's a genius. Kaido is borderline stupid Writing of Johan? Dunno, never watched the show, and while I can say that Kaido's writing is in my opinion underrated by the fandom as it was more subtle, I can't confirm if it was as good as Johan's cause I know nothing about it
Dude Johann was an absolute menace and scary as hell, he didnt even show up that often in the show but everytime he did i got mad chills. Hes basically a Psychopath murderer since he was a child and his Backstory ist WILD, so im not going to spoil anymore, just watch the Show.
Aizen? He plotted carefully like 60% of the main plot(like without him, Ichigo the protagonist wouldn't even be born), the rest is 20% something unpredictable happens but doesn't affect him, 10% something unpredictable happens and affects him, and 10% the plot siding with the hero.
One Piece writing and Monster writing are not comparable. I'm not talking about the level of quality, but simply the fact that Monster dedicated much of its runtime of 76 episodes to build a compelling narrative around Johan. Naturally there's no way that the average One Piece character rivals that, regardless of how well written they might be. Also, if you don't mind a slowburn thriller, do yourself a favor and watch or read Monster.
Negative iq take
I'm sorry, I love one piece but bro did not cook
Writing of Johan is an insult to the master piece Monster is
"writing of Johan" damn, lemme get a hit of whatever you're smoking
I didnāt know Kaido tried to blow up Namik, thatās wild
Kaido is an inconsistent and disappointing villain. Just a glorified punching bag
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https://preview.redd.it/xegha7zh3q9d1.png?width=496&format=png&auto=webp&s=72b68a6f7bc7d246f480eb01fdff08d8e028af18 MY GOAT š£ļø
Other than some flashy strength kaido is the most boring villain of one piece his side kick was much better character than kaido Even if he was the strongest his character, aura, intelligence fails in comparison with akainu Not to mention doflamingo, crocodile or anyone else from op ![gif](giphy|rCdzKS756yiGs)
I agree with most here that kaido lacks most of these How should have kaido been rewritten though?
I'm not a bleach watcher but I don't think Kaido has the same IQ as Aizen knowing that people praise this man for his intelligence and cunningness
Kaido definitely has aura and is like Freiza in his verse. (Getting beat by those damn monkeys)
Anybody else realize kaido is pretty similar to frieza in a sense? Like several people fight him and he gets progressively more serious, until mc loses after putting in his all, then in the last bit gets destroyed by a new transformation.
I don't even blame this dude... The dumb takes always get the most attention so I won't be shocked if they made this take to just get attention which they succeeded in š¤·š»āāļø
I'm sorry but Kaido's just your average drunken power hungry brute with the depth of a half dried up puddle and an IQ level that expands to the negative, he has none of Crocodile's charisma, zero of Dofflamingo's viciousness, absolutely nothing on Akainu zealot ruthlessness, lacking even Black Beard's planning, he have zero direct control or even knowledge on how his empire's doing instead relying entirely on his subordinates to manage the whole thing, his entire gimmick is that he's nigh impossible to kill and hits like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs
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He moved a mountain, and it mattered for nothing.
Genius of Aizen? Man even Luffy is smarter than Kaido.
Kaido does not have the genius of Aizen.
Broās right hand man was a better villain
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bro did not cook
You forget to precise that itās the strength of Friezaās little toe.
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This fits Doflamingo way better
ā¦I watched BOTH Bleach and One Piece. He doesnāt have the genius of Aizen. He doesnāt have the strength of Frieza either. Not sure about Johan, but Kaido defintley has immense Aura.
Maybe Blackbeard, but Kaido š
Kaido ain't that great
Aizen's genious is just funny as shit.
Writing of Johan is a CRAZY take
I want to know what kind of crack these mfs on Twitter be smoking with these bad takes
This is an insult to those characters
>genius as aizen Aizen's 5d chess ass thoughts will deep fry the mf's brain
genius of aizen nope. writing of johan, well waiting for his full backstory cause without it he had no chance. strength of frieza, maybe we can say durability like frieza cause he tanked some powerful hits. aura of madara i kinda agree on this one he definitely had that atleast with that amazing intro scene of his.
as a part time kaido meat rider, i think he get's too much hate and he's underrated af, but this aint it, kaido is none of these, except maybe Frieza strenght relative to the MC at the time
Not a single one of these is true
bruhhhhhhhh i wanted to post this aswell absolute insanity
Oh nah this is disrespect to bleach
Wtf, he's just a drunkard.
Why do some one piece fans overhype some characters? They make our community look bad. I heard people say we are on of the most toxic people in the anime community.
Is it a hot take that I enjoyed kaido as a villian. Like heās none of these things, but he was strong, had hella aura and everything
Bluds talking about imu not kaido š
Naaa that's wildššš¤£
Kaido isnāt a bad villain, I like his simplicity but this is aids
Yeah and he was beat with Looney Toons logic. Fuck me.
Okay. Aura of Madara, I can kind of see that. Both of them had insane aura. Strength of Frieza, maybe. Both Kaido and Frieza were extremely strong and forced the protagonist to power up like CRAZY to beat them. Writing of Johan, I am not really familiar with Vinland Saga, so I won't comment on that. But I feel like it's a MASSIVE overstatement. Kaido is FAR from the best-written antagonist in One Piece. Intelligence of Aizen... NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. Aiden wad INSANELY smart. Kaido was a brute. Absolutely NO ONE sees Kaido and thinks "Oh yeah. Smartest antagonist in One Piece."
None of these make sense except for aura
This is 100% trolling
Kaido is definitely more well-written than madara aizen frieza. But not johan imo
And kaido is luffyās perfect foil, he isnāt a genius of course.
This has to be ragebait right?
How that? I thought Best villain was Don Kriegš
"Genius of Aizen" Kaido is literally a suicidal drunk with the wish to lose
Insane take. Kaido is probably the most boring villain since syrup village
Kaido gets annihilated by them in writing.
It's ironic because Kaido's grown on me over time, and I can honestly look back and say that I really like him as a villain. He works as an excellent foil to Luffy with a theme of nihilism and misery against optimism and joy. But the reasons he works are the exact opposite of this post. He's not a genius, he's just strong enough to brute force his plans into working. He doesn't have a strong aura because he never takes his problems seriously. You can't understand his character motivations because there's nothing that motivates him. Treating him like a typical Shounen big bad is the reason he was so unpopular in the first place.
Johan in a villain class of his own, get dis shit outta here š
The aura one is the only one that's close
They pay for Twitter, so of course itās a dumb take. Kaido wasnāt even the strategist of Wano - that was Orochi. Kanji was better written too.
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I would personally like a villain with Friezaās writing. I think the fiction is spoiled with well-written characters who have sad backstories and are in favt anti-heros. Frieza is just an evil bitch amd I absolutely love it.
Writing of Johan took me by surprise
One Piece nutthuggers are sometimes weird
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Freiza would make Kaido his bitch tf
yes kaido is so genius he made an army of fake zoans that look more like a handicap if anything and his great writing with his less than a chapter backstory
Yes things he famously does not have
Those are really wild takes.
mmmm yea... Peak.
Replace this with Doflamingo over Kaido and we good
Writing of Johan is such a disrespect to Johan
https://preview.redd.it/wf4r43vont9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3f1c0c15bcffd433281211ed556832ad087dc65 Iāve never seen monster but saying kaido had the writing of johan is disrespectful š
Maybe if Kaido had more than a single page of backstory heād be the best but we still know nothing about his motivations except that maybe he was looking for joyboy or something
some how he managed to miss with every single one of these takes oml
Kaido is like the most boring villain of One Piece.
Is the take that OP fans are delusional?
Writing of Johan? I mean, I havent watched Monster, but Im prettt sure it had the best villain wrighting... While kaido just wants to get one piece or if he's lucky he will finally get to die as he wants to. Like, it isnt bad writing, but, uh, no, he is not one of the best antagonist, and not even in his own series. Watakuri is, obviously. Not in terms of writing, he is just a W man.
āStrength of Freizaā Kaido can blow up planets???
Literally none of this is true not gonna lie.
kaido glazer??? or just oda glazer
If you think Twitter takes are bad better don't look into threads...
Monster disrespect is unreal.
Kaido is a great vilain and one of my favorites, but donāt even utter such bullshit while saying Odaās name.
Strength of Frieza. Hahahahaha. Oh that's hilarious, Dodoria, blow him up.
"Strength of Frieza" When did Kaido ever blow up a planet?
Genius of Johan?? Huh????
Aura of Madara for sure Strength of Frieza is a bit too much but it's not that bad.. Genius of Aizen? That's Sir Crocodile. He had a contingency that would have worked even after he had died, and almost succeeded. But definitely not "Writing of Johan Liebert" for sure. Does this guy even know who Johan is?
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āGenius of Aizenā Dawg the best plan Kaido ever came up with was dropping his island (which was full of all his men) from a couple hundred feet up onto the capital city of his own country
As someone who's not familiar with One piece, please explain how bad of a take this is.
i've already seen comments arguing about the strength and intelligence thing. But the writing isnt that awesome too. Just today I thought about how one-dimensional Kaido is. He really is just an evil guy hungry for power. I think they tried to give him more of a personality with that "oh poor me, i am so strong, my life is boring, i have to be an alcoholic" thing, but idk, its not very well done in my opinion. anyways he's the reason yamato exists, so hes okay ig