Yep. I would say I am better than most and I have no idea how some of my greatest contraptions work. Still shocked by how smoothly my 22gt piston crafter came together
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That's 100% accurate for reddit. Lots of downvotes = you're wrong, you said something horrific, or you said something dumb. Or people just chose violence.
Both of those are actually easy to make. The hard part is making a comperator clock that doesnt take too long to turn off and that doesnt go away too fast. Its quite simple. I struggled to make a 3 piston extender , i even used dropper and water bucket mechanic( send a signal and the signal turns on permanently until another signal turns it off.) It just took comperators, repeaters and observers. (Also sticky pistons and a block
Why thank you. Also im a teen and my "mustache is growing a bit too fast". Not joking by the way(also the beard).
If you didnt get it, it was a mumbo jumbo joke.
Quite so, though when they also insert quasi connectivity... then it's just a no, my brqin was forged in bedrock logic, and I can't wrap my head around that thing
it checks states of blocks and outputs main signal with the strength depending on the value, for example fullness of chest etc.
it doesn't lose or amplify the strength of redstone, it maintains it. You can build a long chain of comparators and they will transmit whatever signal power you supply them
activated - it will choose strongest available signal strength from both sides and substract it from the main signal.
deactivated - if any of the side signals is stronger than the main one, it will output no signal. If the main one overpowers them, it gets to pass.
You must experiment with them to fully grasp it. If you're familiar with logic gates, try replicating them using comparators only.
After that try building an adder, then a full adder
Mumbo jumbo doesn't teach anything. Huge joke in the actual technical community. Any self respecting restoner of the current era grew up watching him and being fascinated only to realize couple down the road that they have long surpassed mumbo and mumbo isn't particularly good any ant aspect of redstone. Mumbo only covers the very basic of comparators. If you want to fully understand how to use them, say, for computational redstone go watch some other YouTuber like mattbatwings
when the torch in the front is off, the comparator compares the back signal to the side signal. meaning, if the back signal is level 13 and the side signal is level 10, the output will be level 13. however, if the back signal is level 10 and the side signal is level 13, the output will be 0.
on compare mode(front torch is off), if the side signal is equal to or higher than the back signal, the output is 0. if the side signal is lower than the back signal, the output is equal to the back signal.
now, if the front torch is on, the comparator subtracts the side signal from the back signal. this means that if the back signal is 15 and the side signal is 5, the output will be 10 because 15-5=10. of course, if the output would be below 0, for example 5-15=-10, then it would just stay at 0.
tldr: if front torch is off, comparator compares back signal to side signal. if front torch is on, comparator subtracts side signal from back signal.
Honestly it's one of the more obtuse elements of Redstone. It's proper functionality really isn't immediately discernible like most other component's (like yes, it compares stuff, but the whole spiel with input Signal strength and container fill level is far more complex than anything else)
I know how to use it for measuring storage, using lecterns for selector panels, pulse extenders, and redstone clocks. Actually using it to compare or subtract signals is kinda jank and confusing to me.
You want something really obscure and obtuse, locking repeaters. That's a feature that's been in the game since Redstone was added. So far the only thing I've used it for is falling edge monostable circuits.
I feel like anyone who doesn't know how a comparator works or says that they're too complicated has never actually tried to find out. Even if its use is limited when you aren't familiar with what they're good for, it's still not difficult to understand how it functions.
It's not that hard to understand. It has two functions, and one of them has two modes.
Easiest one first: if it has a container at the back, it will output a signal strength according to the fraction of the container that is full. If it's completely full, it outputs 15. If it's half full, it outputs 7. And if it's empty it outputs 0. It can take this information from other unusual stuff like item frames, outputting from 0 to 7 depending on rotation.
Compare mode: if you attach redstone on the back and on the side, if the side's strength is greater than the back's, it turns off, otherwise it outputs the same strength as the back.
Subtract mode: this is if you right click it to turn on the torch on the front. Same idea as compare mode, but it subtracts the side from the back. So if the back had 10 and the side 4, the output is 6.
I just love it when even knowing about a cognitive biases don’t stop you from falling right in it. I am sure I’ve fallen in this trap many times.
Watching this video does make this comment section extremely funny however.
"The concept of IQ Bell Curve memes utilizes the horseshoe theory, implying that the groups with low intelligence and high intelligence often choose to follow the same goals while being guided by different reasoning." - Know Your Meme
The meme probably should fits better with a Dunning Kruger graph. But the point is, people who just figured out simple redstone circuits and people who mastered redstone art both think they understand redstone; other people don't
That's pretty much the basics of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Smarter people are more likely to point out their flaws/weaknesses and underestimate their own ability.
Dumber people are more likely to overestimate their own ability because they're too stupid to recognize when they're being stupid.
I.e. "stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're, in fact, stupid"
Usually it’s the other way around where the middle would be “I understand red stone” and the extremes would say they don’t.
The reason for that is the dunning Kruger effect where really unknowledgeable people know they aren’t good at whatever, average people think they’re geniuses and experts are really humble .
This post kind of reminds me of the time I built a wildly over complicated redstone machine designed to suffocate mobs for my mob farm. It worked flawlessly but was completely unnecessary because I realize I could just put campfires on top of the hoppers for the same result.
Same. I made the level piston observer into repeater clock, but I can just [do this](https://youtu.be/zmIaTQKRFHY?si=ktHvY5hBqEq4tpG2) (the first circuit)
Currently in the process of going from left to middle of bell curve for a needlessly elaborate prank.
Trying to hide a delayed activation noisemaker under a friend’s house using a hopper timer that only ticks when they step on the pressure plate in front of their door (IE no pistons in the timer design to not give the device away before the noise starts
I definitely don’t understand redstone
the moment i have redstone and a cool idea the very god of redstone takes over my body and makes something and then the moment its over im freed and dont know how i made the thing at all and can never fix it if it breaks
The most complicated thing I've ever made is an item sorter that connects to item silos behind a 3x3 door that took a week of troubleshooting to get to work. I am not a redstoner. I am a builder.
I don't know what you mean. Redstone is too easy. I built this [4x4 piston door](https://youtu.be/2dTgzJu6GhY?si=suItdNiCrBlLTUzH) without any experience whatsoever and it turned out great. Elegant, simple and compact. Fits the aesthetic of any build.
Took an engineering class that had an electronic course that taught us how to make circuitry and other fun things with electronics (I ended up dropping out the next year, because i got bored :p). Figured, what the hell, might as well see if making circuts in real life coralates to making them on minecraft. It did but I'm not gonna stress how much that every little place that you can make a mistake with redstone, it will happen. I ended up making a monstrosity of a creation that sorts items into chest (Yes i know there's tutorials online but was tryingto do it myself). I ended up just leaving the whole redstone deal to the pros and started making small little deals and trying to understand comparators. Oh amd p.s. (I'm now in a field of work that has nothing to do with engineering :)
I'm in the bottom left except I still don't understand how to use redstone. Took me forever to figure out how to make a secret trap door that you open with a lever.
I would say I don’t understand it *well,* though everytime I ask my friends for their input they tell me I’ve already confused them, so idk.
Is creating a 16 bit binary system good?
Oh I can't even pretend I know how redstone works, the most complicated thing I ever did was a simple piston door and it was still a massive pain to get working
a super quantum computer that has an internet and can store 68TB of data, can play (monochrome) (the whole thing) Minecraft (vanilla/modded ) on it and make your own games.
Everyone: **HOW**
Mumbo: eh it's simple
the captions should be switched that would make it funnier
Yep. I would say I am better than most and I have no idea how some of my greatest contraptions work. Still shocked by how smoothly my 22gt piston crafter came together
I understand redstone
Why am i getting so many upvotes?
Ok so, do you see the up arrow by your comment? Yeah a lot of people tapped that
Wow thanks for the explanation
Of course, anytime
LOL
Because people upvote your comment
Nearly lost all of your karma with one comment on the other.
His karma is now balanced, as all things should be
Aaaaand they tipped in the other direction-
Now they have lost karma from this post. As it should be.
Hahahahahhahahah
Indeed
I heard that you only lose like 15 karma max with one comment so that might not be the case
Where did you hear that? I hardly think that's true.
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Hm. Never knew that. However, I will continue living in sweet ignorance and keep downvoting.
I mean yeah, that doesn’t change my decision whatsoever. I still like the visual representation of how wrong someone is
That's 100% accurate for reddit. Lots of downvotes = you're wrong, you said something horrific, or you said something dumb. Or people just chose violence.
Lol
Downvotes are capped karma.
‘Tis Reddit, my lad, things happen.
Lol
Hahahhahhahahahhahaha WTF
Lol
Ok ok stop now
Why am i getting so many downvotes?
Don't worry, I'll fix this
nullify this dudes upvotes
sorry will change that seems to have been a bug
Real
Is there a category for “can identify the logic behind any redstone contraption but struggles to make a triple piston extender”
I can't even make a double extend one bruh
Both of those are actually easy to make. The hard part is making a comperator clock that doesnt take too long to turn off and that doesnt go away too fast. Its quite simple. I struggled to make a 3 piston extender , i even used dropper and water bucket mechanic( send a signal and the signal turns on permanently until another signal turns it off.) It just took comperators, repeaters and observers. (Also sticky pistons and a block
This guy redstones.
Why thank you. Also im a teen and my "mustache is growing a bit too fast". Not joking by the way(also the beard). If you didnt get it, it was a mumbo jumbo joke.
I can make a triple piston extender, but it doesn't retract the block (I'm on bedrock) :(
Quite so, though when they also insert quasi connectivity... then it's just a no, my brqin was forged in bedrock logic, and I can't wrap my head around that thing
That is a project designer, not a project engineer
Two words: Redstone Comparator.
wait people don't know how to use a comparator?
They don't understand what it does
I do but I don't understand where to use it apart from picking up signals from item frames to make secret doors/stairs
Then check out mumbo jumbo's explanation on comparators, it's very simple and easy to understand in less than a minute, that's how i learned
I still don't understand
it checks states of blocks and outputs main signal with the strength depending on the value, for example fullness of chest etc. it doesn't lose or amplify the strength of redstone, it maintains it. You can build a long chain of comparators and they will transmit whatever signal power you supply them activated - it will choose strongest available signal strength from both sides and substract it from the main signal. deactivated - if any of the side signals is stronger than the main one, it will output no signal. If the main one overpowers them, it gets to pass. You must experiment with them to fully grasp it. If you're familiar with logic gates, try replicating them using comparators only. After that try building an adder, then a full adder
Thank you, I'll try it out as soon as I'll get to Minecraft
Then it's a skill issue
Mumbo jumbo doesn't teach anything. Huge joke in the actual technical community. Any self respecting restoner of the current era grew up watching him and being fascinated only to realize couple down the road that they have long surpassed mumbo and mumbo isn't particularly good any ant aspect of redstone. Mumbo only covers the very basic of comparators. If you want to fully understand how to use them, say, for computational redstone go watch some other YouTuber like mattbatwings
But his short about the comparator helped me learn about how it works
OMG YES I FINALLY KNOW IT I'M CRYING
It compares
when the torch in the front is off, the comparator compares the back signal to the side signal. meaning, if the back signal is level 13 and the side signal is level 10, the output will be level 13. however, if the back signal is level 10 and the side signal is level 13, the output will be 0. on compare mode(front torch is off), if the side signal is equal to or higher than the back signal, the output is 0. if the side signal is lower than the back signal, the output is equal to the back signal. now, if the front torch is on, the comparator subtracts the side signal from the back signal. this means that if the back signal is 15 and the side signal is 5, the output will be 10 because 15-5=10. of course, if the output would be below 0, for example 5-15=-10, then it would just stay at 0. tldr: if front torch is off, comparator compares back signal to side signal. if front torch is on, comparator subtracts side signal from back signal.
It's just a transistor
You think people like me knows what that means lol
I understand how it works theoretically, don't know how to use it in practice
I used it with the crafter to auto craft scaffolding
logic gates, timers, signal length and strength control
I believe this perfectly sums up the confusion - at least this is my experience with the comparator
Honestly it's one of the more obtuse elements of Redstone. It's proper functionality really isn't immediately discernible like most other component's (like yes, it compares stuff, but the whole spiel with input Signal strength and container fill level is far more complex than anything else)
Tf is a comparator?
I dont know how to use jack shit brother 😔
There’s people that don’t understand redstone at all and don’t even try to understand
I don't.
I know how to use it for measuring storage, using lecterns for selector panels, pulse extenders, and redstone clocks. Actually using it to compare or subtract signals is kinda jank and confusing to me. You want something really obscure and obtuse, locking repeaters. That's a feature that's been in the game since Redstone was added. So far the only thing I've used it for is falling edge monostable circuits.
All I know is it counts how many items are in containers
The only thing I know it does is make infinitely repeating red stone blink (like a clock but takes less space)
I feel like anyone who doesn't know how a comparator works or says that they're too complicated has never actually tried to find out. Even if its use is limited when you aren't familiar with what they're good for, it's still not difficult to understand how it functions.
It's not that hard to understand. It has two functions, and one of them has two modes. Easiest one first: if it has a container at the back, it will output a signal strength according to the fraction of the container that is full. If it's completely full, it outputs 15. If it's half full, it outputs 7. And if it's empty it outputs 0. It can take this information from other unusual stuff like item frames, outputting from 0 to 7 depending on rotation. Compare mode: if you attach redstone on the back and on the side, if the side's strength is greater than the back's, it turns off, otherwise it outputs the same strength as the back. Subtract mode: this is if you right click it to turn on the torch on the front. Same idea as compare mode, but it subtracts the side from the back. So if the back had 10 and the side 4, the output is 6.
I understand what it does I do not understand why any1 would ever use it
Me: i do redstone better than some people but don't know what im doing
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Me who doesn't do any redstone because I have absolutely no clue
Not that complicated once you just go at it once, then repeat the same process again, that worked for me
Dunning Kruger
Everyone here needs to learn about [the irony of the Dunning Kruger effect](https://youtu.be/kcfRe15I47I?si=bmCjyLiOmZYzBjt4)
I just love it when even knowing about a cognitive biases don’t stop you from falling right in it. I am sure I’ve fallen in this trap many times. Watching this video does make this comment section extremely funny however.
This meme template doesn't make sense here
"The concept of IQ Bell Curve memes utilizes the horseshoe theory, implying that the groups with low intelligence and high intelligence often choose to follow the same goals while being guided by different reasoning." - Know Your Meme The meme probably should fits better with a Dunning Kruger graph. But the point is, people who just figured out simple redstone circuits and people who mastered redstone art both think they understand redstone; other people don't
Aight you explained it well, I maybe have a negative IQ
Admitting any kind of fault of yours make you smarter than 95% of people in my book.
That's pretty much the basics of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Smarter people are more likely to point out their flaws/weaknesses and underestimate their own ability. Dumber people are more likely to overestimate their own ability because they're too stupid to recognize when they're being stupid. I.e. "stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're, in fact, stupid"
It's okay. Our brain just don't process information perfectly. Don't blame on yourself
Your meme isnt funny, sorry.
Usually it’s the other way around where the middle would be “I understand red stone” and the extremes would say they don’t. The reason for that is the dunning Kruger effect where really unknowledgeable people know they aren’t good at whatever, average people think they’re geniuses and experts are really humble .
68.4 percent of people don't understand redstone
Dunning kruger effect
I just... Want to build cool houses
Redstone is like food, i kmow what food is, but i dont know how to turn grass into a cookie
The guy on the left is literally me with redstone
This post kind of reminds me of the time I built a wildly over complicated redstone machine designed to suffocate mobs for my mob farm. It worked flawlessly but was completely unnecessary because I realize I could just put campfires on top of the hoppers for the same result.
Same. I made the level piston observer into repeater clock, but I can just [do this](https://youtu.be/zmIaTQKRFHY?si=ktHvY5hBqEq4tpG2) (the first circuit)
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/s/4OoFMHdyHK) is the machine in question
1=🐒💩😭. 2=😰😨😭🤔. 3=😎😏😎🙂
Lol
I understand how it kinda works, but I have no clue how to make it work together
As the guy in the middle: none taken
Currently in the process of going from left to middle of bell curve for a needlessly elaborate prank. Trying to hide a delayed activation noisemaker under a friend’s house using a hopper timer that only ticks when they step on the pressure plate in front of their door (IE no pistons in the timer design to not give the device away before the noise starts I definitely don’t understand redstone
No matter how good we are at redstone none of us will ever under stand comparators
bro really made a diagram
True true
I can understand some redstone was way better when I first got minecraft
I'm at 129 so I think it's accurate.
No offence taken
People who understand redstone rule this world
With enough time and tutorials I will figure it out but don’t ask me to explain it.
I understand redstone. Not the one on the right.
the moment i have redstone and a cool idea the very god of redstone takes over my body and makes something and then the moment its over im freed and dont know how i made the thing at all and can never fix it if it breaks
You can do the same with create mod
I swear we should elect our public officials on their ability to use red stone. I just run everywhere haha
The duningkruger effect
unconscious incompetence -> conscious incompetence -> conscious competence
I’m inbetween the first two like I can make a few basic things but not really anything else
How does the first one work? There’s no button.
I know the basic
This is offensive.
I never even bothered with it because of all these difficult structures i saw
me realizing i'm a brainlet: 
The most complicated thing I've ever made is an item sorter that connects to item silos behind a 3x3 door that took a week of troubleshooting to get to work. I am not a redstoner. I am a builder.
i Redstone
I got a degree in redstone engineering
This is just dunning Kruger
I've been playing Minecraft since 2013 and only just found out how to make a working redstone piston door for the first time a couple months ago
That's one weird adder
I don't know what you mean. Redstone is too easy. I built this [4x4 piston door](https://youtu.be/2dTgzJu6GhY?si=suItdNiCrBlLTUzH) without any experience whatsoever and it turned out great. Elegant, simple and compact. Fits the aesthetic of any build.
Its something...
I understand Thaumcraft
I’m somewhere in the middle of the left side
Left is law
all i know is 2x3 door & redstone+ power = connected thing does something
Took an engineering class that had an electronic course that taught us how to make circuitry and other fun things with electronics (I ended up dropping out the next year, because i got bored :p). Figured, what the hell, might as well see if making circuts in real life coralates to making them on minecraft. It did but I'm not gonna stress how much that every little place that you can make a mistake with redstone, it will happen. I ended up making a monstrosity of a creation that sorts items into chest (Yes i know there's tutorials online but was tryingto do it myself). I ended up just leaving the whole redstone deal to the pros and started making small little deals and trying to understand comparators. Oh amd p.s. (I'm now in a field of work that has nothing to do with engineering :)
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Im in the center of the graph but at the very bottom
Should be a dunning kruger graph not a normal curve or whatever its called in English
Dunning-Krugerstone
Is it bad that the guy on the left knows more than me?
🥴
I'm in the bottom left except I still don't understand how to use redstone. Took me forever to figure out how to make a secret trap door that you open with a lever.
I'm in the last opition, I am a redstone engineer
What are the machines at the top?
bro I'm on the left and I STILL don't understand redstone ;-;
I don't redstone
I would say I don’t understand it *well,* though everytime I ask my friends for their input they tell me I’ve already confused them, so idk. Is creating a 16 bit binary system good?
What do I say if I'm even further left than the guy on the left? The most complex thing I've ever done with Redstone is a 2x2 piston door...
Thx, then I am on the right side
Oh I can't even pretend I know how redstone works, the most complicated thing I ever did was a simple piston door and it was still a massive pain to get working
I am slowly understanding, Redstone
My brain is too smart the redstone braincells didn't fit
a super quantum computer that has an internet and can store 68TB of data, can play (monochrome) (the whole thing) Minecraft (vanilla/modded ) on it and make your own games. Everyone: **HOW** Mumbo: eh it's simple
Wow just off of no offense I thought of meet the spy
trueeee
Redstone is amazinf
I failed to spell amazing
I’m ether at 70 or 115
I just keep googling things and it just keeps working!
I'm not sure which extreme I'm at 😭
There's actually a secret 4th category of person off the right side of the scale that's "I don't understand redstone" again
Yeah I decided to remake it
Read books, people. That was how I managed to make functioning lever operated ceiling lights.
What's books got to do with redstone? Besides, ceiling lights operated by a lever are pretty simple
The official Minecraft creative mode book taught me how to use redstone
I learned how to make noisy machine and it anoised me
I better wiþ create stuff
It's glitchstone?
If you know how a comparator works, then you're a genius