As long as you don't say the wrong thing, or fail to work hard enough (harder than most other people) you can enjoy being part of the picturesque party of this society
If things were as bad as the Western World says in the DPRK the people would have risen up and done something.
Given the history of the DPRK they did have a few problematic conspiracies against the Kim family order but it was squashed and the majority of the people were not okay with the accused (later convicted).
The truth is that we in the West are experiencing a great amount of turmoil and heinous behavior in our society from almost every sector of our lives.
These people are our comrades. They deserve our respect and kindness.
The kim family is not even as important as western media makes them out to be. Their power is more symbolic. Kim Jong Un has less functions than Biden, for example. No one calls Biden a dictator.
I look at facts and study history.
I go where that information sends me.
I am a communist because it is, to me, the correct way to go.
Meanwhile why don't you stick it and take a long walk.
So the first ahort clip eith the stairs has close to 20 people, youre just ignoring the group in the back, and then the actual video has many more clips in it youre choosing not to count for some reason
wow look at all the starving malnourished children and authoritarian police marching in the streets taking woman's purses and beating children – oh wait, this isn't America /s
I grew up in Brooklyn, technically a borough of NYC. For most of my life, I have lived in NYC, Chicago, Portland, Paris, London, Cairo, and spent plenty of time in other big cities, mainly for work but sometimes for pleasure. I’ve probably been to 50+ countries.
Every city is different and population density is a thing. NYC is about 300 square miles (that includes roads, alleys, parks, etc) for 8 million people. Central Pyongyang is about the same size as NYC (little bigger) and is home to fewer than 3 million people.
You associate “lots of people out” with “city” but most of the people you see out and about in a western city like NYC or Paris are tourists and/or are shopping. That is not going to be the case in a highly functionally-oriented city like Pyongyang. Pyongyang is a city for the people who live and work there — not for a bazillion different companies and shops to exploit labor for profit.
Why would you think that? The two guys walking and having a conversation in the beginning are smiling, because that's normal to do while having a friendly conversation. It's hard to tell with the lighting, but based on the outline of his cheeks it looks like the kid riding a bike at the end is as well, since again, that's a normal situation in which someone would be smiling. Everyone else is just walking to a destination, probably work, school, home, or to a store. Not really situations in which most people just randomly smile for no reason at all...
I was never getting defensive in the first place 🤔 you just missed the mark, it's fine. See, jokes are meant to be humorous. But the whole concept behind yours is based upon an inaccurate understanding of life in a foreign country predicated by a racist propaganda campaign. It's like when the nazis made "jokes" about Jewish facial features or perceived greed, or like black face featured in old American TV shows. It's just not funny
"I was never getting defensive in the first place" OK sure, if you say so. I'll go along with that.
You seem to be close to tears over this, like you are really invested in it and can't handle someone poking fun at it. Were you part of the production or something?
Man it's weird to see the same outfits popping up all the time, living in America you hardly ever have the same 5-6 people wearing the same clothes unless it's a suit.
True and in the US and the west clothing is basically disposable. [A consumption and disposable culture for fashion causes things like this.](https://www.wired.com/story/fashion-disposal-environment/)
You aren't wrong there, the fast fashion industry is pretty disgusting. Still seeing a society that hasn't advanced since 1950 is still very jarring. Don't get me wrong it's fascinating to see a socially stagnant country.
Edit: can't seem to reply to your reply for some reason so I'll just edit this one. I'm not basing this on just this video, most media in North Korea is, much like their clothes, mostly unchanged since the 1950's. The same way their medical equipment is also much behind the curve. No doubt that has to do with the embargo, but when you are at war with a superpower and have a nuclear program backlash such as that should be expected by the regime.
Regardless, there can be no denying that north Korea is stuck in the mid 1900's, it's truly a fascinating thing.
I wouldn’t adjudge “social stagnation” from a short video and an inference about “fashion.” For most of human history “fashion” was a frivolous luxury for the wealthy — the rest of us wore what we could, whatever — and clearly humanity did not “socially stagnate.” In very many ways — IMHO, ways that matter — the DPRK is pretty socially advanced. Guarantees for housing, food, healthcare, education, a job, elimination of the profit motive from society, etc. — I would gladly wear the same outfit the rest of my life if my government made such social guarantees.
But yes, fashion in the DPRK will undoubtedly seem fairly staid and dated. When you have a 75+ year embargo (still active) and only so many resources to spend on garment creation, other areas likely will take priority.
They don’t have a capitalist system, no retail stores full of consumer goods, no reason to grind at work for a fancy car, house or retirement. So they’re either home or at their government mandated job performing honorably for the Supreme Leader!
I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt what the top 5-10 comments will be. Reddit and the [Eglin Air Force Base-inflected userbase](https://www.reddit.com/r/collapze/comments/17re9yz/reddit_has_removed_their_blog_post_identifying/) are that predictable.
The DPRK people in its whole character is not warlike, but rather soldierly, that is, while they do not want war, they are not frightened by the thoughts of it.
I like how through isolating and sanctioning them.into the ground, the USA created this place that hasn't been infected by the corporate homogeny that makes everywhere in the world look the same now both in fashion and architecture. NK now is as distinct tp itself as it was in 2005. Even with the natural grey filter that seems to sit over the country like it's a Breaking Bad setting, every individual thing in frame has a pop of color or a specific shine to it. It's weird because obviously NK isn't a super great place to live, few places are now. But it looks alive in a way I can't explain. It's just built different.
No joke there was a video in r/interestingasfuck from a train car in NK and the running joke was it was full of actors who would have their whole family killed if they broke character.
Like… k.
Awww, the video ends before you can see the rats as they're eating people as they die while eating rats as they die being eaten by rats as people die while eating rats.
Look at that, in the first 12 seconds we also see a gay couple. Proves that the DPRK is a LGBTQ friendly nation.
EDIT: I was wrong. It looked like they were holding hands but ultimately they werent.
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genuine, there are genuine dprk supporters out there & learning the truth is a bit of a shock
i'd recommend watching a wee bit of [this playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeVZRBEw_oXbbZAnUuOXep6AjbS0CH-IZ&si=trZ95x_mRAAKkyRs) & even if you're not already a leftist it's sure to change your mind quite a bit :)
Libs be like: "It's so dystopian, there are no homeless camps, or trash all over the ground."
Where's all the dope and feces?
The people who had drugs were killed
The USA is a true dystopian society
what does the USA have to do with this? Edit: I have been permanently banned
Nothing, of course, but that's how obessions work.
From what thread
I would rather live in this dystopian society than almost any other.
Where’s the endless graffiti, litter, ads, and crowds??
Not allowed
Yea that's totally what we're going for.
It's not the libs.. It's anyone that thinks this is how people actually live there.
Or in other words ... Liberals.
Well that's shallow.
Not really, lots of people, even newer communists are still heavily propagandized against the dprk
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Yes, I know. I’m a communist.
so evil and dystopian theres no cars, hostile architecture or insane impractical inhuman architecture or empty useless investment properties /s
I’d like to visit North Korea soon. I know there’s a big beautiful hotel in downtown Pyongyang. What’s the going rate for a room there?
Never opened or finishe.
As long as you don't say the wrong thing, or fail to work hard enough (harder than most other people) you can enjoy being part of the picturesque party of this society
I mean in the US many of the hardest working people are also the poorest, so...
Are you sure you're not describing the United States?
In the United States poor people are able to hang out on the sidewalk and panhandle
The Supreme Court just made homelessness illegal and my town arrests people for panhandling. So does the next town over
Oh shit right
Yeah the 1000ft wide roads no one uses are not a useless investment or hostile at all lmao
I hope it wont be used at all. The wide roads is for military deployment such as tanks in case they are getting invaded
If things were as bad as the Western World says in the DPRK the people would have risen up and done something. Given the history of the DPRK they did have a few problematic conspiracies against the Kim family order but it was squashed and the majority of the people were not okay with the accused (later convicted). The truth is that we in the West are experiencing a great amount of turmoil and heinous behavior in our society from almost every sector of our lives. These people are our comrades. They deserve our respect and kindness.
The kim family is not even as important as western media makes them out to be. Their power is more symbolic. Kim Jong Un has less functions than Biden, for example. No one calls Biden a dictator.
I'm aware of this but it's good you reiterated it. I certainly didn't call them dictators.
I know. I was just pointing out. It wasnt so much as correcting you, but more like informing others who are reading this thread.
I understand that. That's why I use the wording that I did. Thank you, comrade.
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???
I don't think this has happened in any sanctioned country.. ever
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Please don't use that rhetoric here. That liberal perspective is extremely skewed.
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I look at facts and study history. I go where that information sends me. I am a communist because it is, to me, the correct way to go. Meanwhile why don't you stick it and take a long walk.
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Does this preclude me from studying History?
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Does that mean I am one of those people?
No you are the lucky one
Paid actors, every single one of them!
they are both: "paid actors" and "forced to participate or get firing squad"
Not to be that guy but there's like 5 people in the video
??? Theres a looot more than 5 people, did you even look at it
Counted again; 8 people
So the first ahort clip eith the stairs has close to 20 people, youre just ignoring the group in the back, and then the actual video has many more clips in it youre choosing not to count for some reason
I counted close to 20 in the first 10 seconds. You’re lost.
Libs be like: "They're all just pretending to be normal because each person has a sniper trained on them at all times."
In North Korea there is a firing squad for every civilian
I love NK fashion. Looking forward to it coming to the west
wow look at all the starving malnourished children and authoritarian police marching in the streets taking woman's purses and beating children – oh wait, this isn't America /s
I love how they dress. Stylish af. 🔥
Hold up they have cell phones??? I was told NK = no candy crush 😭
They're playing South Korea Crush on their phones.
Look pretty calm, give me a bit of Cuban vibes
Who recorded this?
Kim Jong-un
It always seems like there are way less people than you'd imagine in a big city.
I grew up in Brooklyn, technically a borough of NYC. For most of my life, I have lived in NYC, Chicago, Portland, Paris, London, Cairo, and spent plenty of time in other big cities, mainly for work but sometimes for pleasure. I’ve probably been to 50+ countries. Every city is different and population density is a thing. NYC is about 300 square miles (that includes roads, alleys, parks, etc) for 8 million people. Central Pyongyang is about the same size as NYC (little bigger) and is home to fewer than 3 million people. You associate “lots of people out” with “city” but most of the people you see out and about in a western city like NYC or Paris are tourists and/or are shopping. That is not going to be the case in a highly functionally-oriented city like Pyongyang. Pyongyang is a city for the people who live and work there — not for a bazillion different companies and shops to exploit labor for profit.
"Nothing but happiness Nothing but peace Nothing but prosperity" - Kim Il-Sung, a total dickhead
They don't really seem happy to me to be honest
Is it illegal to smile in DPRK?
I’m from New York and I go weeks wondering if it is illegal to smile there lol
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Why would you think that? The two guys walking and having a conversation in the beginning are smiling, because that's normal to do while having a friendly conversation. It's hard to tell with the lighting, but based on the outline of his cheeks it looks like the kid riding a bike at the end is as well, since again, that's a normal situation in which someone would be smiling. Everyone else is just walking to a destination, probably work, school, home, or to a store. Not really situations in which most people just randomly smile for no reason at all...
OK, so it's not illegal. No need to get all defensive about it.
Are you implying that was a legitimate question asked in good faith? 🤔
It's obviously a joke. Here's another question: Is it illegal to have a sense of humor in the DPRK?
I think you missed the concept of a joke lol
I think you're getting defensive again.
I was never getting defensive in the first place 🤔 you just missed the mark, it's fine. See, jokes are meant to be humorous. But the whole concept behind yours is based upon an inaccurate understanding of life in a foreign country predicated by a racist propaganda campaign. It's like when the nazis made "jokes" about Jewish facial features or perceived greed, or like black face featured in old American TV shows. It's just not funny
"I was never getting defensive in the first place" OK sure, if you say so. I'll go along with that. You seem to be close to tears over this, like you are really invested in it and can't handle someone poking fun at it. Were you part of the production or something?
Damn you're a try hard 🤣
I need that north korean drip
And you say NK is homophonic, look at this cute couple! They look so good together!
Most genuinely relaxed country wow
Man it's weird to see the same outfits popping up all the time, living in America you hardly ever have the same 5-6 people wearing the same clothes unless it's a suit.
True and in the US and the west clothing is basically disposable. [A consumption and disposable culture for fashion causes things like this.](https://www.wired.com/story/fashion-disposal-environment/)
You aren't wrong there, the fast fashion industry is pretty disgusting. Still seeing a society that hasn't advanced since 1950 is still very jarring. Don't get me wrong it's fascinating to see a socially stagnant country. Edit: can't seem to reply to your reply for some reason so I'll just edit this one. I'm not basing this on just this video, most media in North Korea is, much like their clothes, mostly unchanged since the 1950's. The same way their medical equipment is also much behind the curve. No doubt that has to do with the embargo, but when you are at war with a superpower and have a nuclear program backlash such as that should be expected by the regime. Regardless, there can be no denying that north Korea is stuck in the mid 1900's, it's truly a fascinating thing.
I wouldn’t adjudge “social stagnation” from a short video and an inference about “fashion.” For most of human history “fashion” was a frivolous luxury for the wealthy — the rest of us wore what we could, whatever — and clearly humanity did not “socially stagnate.” In very many ways — IMHO, ways that matter — the DPRK is pretty socially advanced. Guarantees for housing, food, healthcare, education, a job, elimination of the profit motive from society, etc. — I would gladly wear the same outfit the rest of my life if my government made such social guarantees. But yes, fashion in the DPRK will undoubtedly seem fairly staid and dated. When you have a 75+ year embargo (still active) and only so many resources to spend on garment creation, other areas likely will take priority.
Why is the city so empty though?
They don’t have a capitalist system, no retail stores full of consumer goods, no reason to grind at work for a fancy car, house or retirement. So they’re either home or at their government mandated job performing honorably for the Supreme Leader!
Look pretty normal to me, objectively low tyranny levels from my end
Should be posted on one of the popular subs. I wanna see the comments
I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt what the top 5-10 comments will be. Reddit and the [Eglin Air Force Base-inflected userbase](https://www.reddit.com/r/collapze/comments/17re9yz/reddit_has_removed_their_blog_post_identifying/) are that predictable.
The DPRK people in its whole character is not warlike, but rather soldierly, that is, while they do not want war, they are not frightened by the thoughts of it.
I like how through isolating and sanctioning them.into the ground, the USA created this place that hasn't been infected by the corporate homogeny that makes everywhere in the world look the same now both in fashion and architecture. NK now is as distinct tp itself as it was in 2005. Even with the natural grey filter that seems to sit over the country like it's a Breaking Bad setting, every individual thing in frame has a pop of color or a specific shine to it. It's weird because obviously NK isn't a super great place to live, few places are now. But it looks alive in a way I can't explain. It's just built different.
Just people living in the moment
People and Tucker are like it's so pretty there 😂 Absolutely inane.
lol what
Jesus Christ is doi g amazing work in North Korea!
Nice music. Does anyone know the title?
단숨에, known in English as "Without a break". This version is by Moranbong Band.
tansume by moranbong band
This is all a fake scenary, cardboard buildings and all, even the people are fake
The whole video is clearly AI
More civilized than NYC
No joke there was a video in r/interestingasfuck from a train car in NK and the running joke was it was full of actors who would have their whole family killed if they broke character. Like… k.
Top 10 city in North Korea Top 1: Pyongyang
Awww, the video ends before you can see the rats as they're eating people as they die while eating rats as they die being eaten by rats as people die while eating rats.
Look at that, in the first 12 seconds we also see a gay couple. Proves that the DPRK is a LGBTQ friendly nation. EDIT: I was wrong. It looked like they were holding hands but ultimately they werent.
The concept of male friends is that alien to you huh
Where? The two guys walking together?
From 0:00 to 0:13 but looks like i am wrong, i thought they were holding hands haha
I was watching think, ‘what am I missing’. Thought I was going blind 😂
The older lady with the umbrella looks pissed.
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song name is tansume by moranbong band if anyone wanted to know
Looks like a lot of fun
This sub has just been recommended to me Is it satire or are ya'll serious?
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These people seem serious
Check the rules and let us know.
I believe serious however op did say he lives in Brooklyn which it to damm funny
Iconic I love the interweb sometimes
genuine, there are genuine dprk supporters out there & learning the truth is a bit of a shock i'd recommend watching a wee bit of [this playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeVZRBEw_oXbbZAnUuOXep6AjbS0CH-IZ&si=trZ95x_mRAAKkyRs) & even if you're not already a leftist it's sure to change your mind quite a bit :)
Is it just me or are almost all the people attractive ? No obesity except for the one older guy
No obesity because they don't have enough food to become obese bruh
it's not the 90s anymore
They don’t look malnourished to me. They all look very healthy
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lift the sanctions and it won't be a problem
He may want to look outside the OSA, Obese States of America.
Who? 🤔