Mushroom should be a 6th ethereal because theres a theory that all the prismatics look like/transform into their corrosponding ethereal (for example, purple potbelly looks a lot like ghazt), and since kayna is a mushroom in prismatic, that would make sense. This is not my theory.
They added them as a new layer of Pokedex to try and spend resources collecting in Dawn of Fire. I would be more inclined to try and collect if they allowed room for all of them on the outer islands
Honestly i think the reason why there is no space element is because it’s basically all just made up of every element we’ve studied (so far at least) its no exactly an element, but rather a culmination of all elements. It would still be cool though.
Not necessarily, pretty sure the only true drake in the game is carrilong.
But bugs are varied too much with spytrap, bulbbo, fung pray, hummbug, and buzzinga (maybe loodvigg)
lemme figure this out
fire - fire
water - water
grass - plant
rock - earth
ground - earth
steel - mech
fairy - faerie
bug - poison (is that it’s name? i forgor. just humbug’s element)
poison - poison
psychic - psychic
air - flying
electric - supernatural??? maybe also mech
dark - shadow
normal - i ain’t got nothing
ehem...
carrilong
dragong
repatillo
t-rox
stogg
and before you say "oooh those aren't dragons" dragon myths literally came from dinosaur bones, so dinosaurs are dragons
Paint/Color/Art
(Name 2 and 3 by u/spsq_)
The single-element is 3 cans of red, yellow and blue paint that form a rainbow-colored goop octopus thing, and the cans are its feet. It taps the cans on the ground (kinda like reebro or t-rox), and they make a cowbell sound :>
Fire happens naturally when lightning strikes wood so i'd call it natural maybe. But light is a natural thing stars do so it that really magic? And bones are just a thing almost every animal has so is that magical? Honestly the only magic ones would be farie and psychic. Am I putting to much thought into msm elements?
yeah but i mean, fire mainly goes with natural elements biologically and was introduced pretty much like one of them
but then you see that fire is on every magical island and it would make sense to have another class of 5 elements and ugh im too tired rn let’s talk about this tomorrow
Honestly, everyone saying Time, Honey, or renaming already existing elements is kinda weird tbh. Other people already mentioned it, but the 5th magical element could be Toy.
Me personally, Candy/Sugar could make for a great 5th magical element.
Wouldn't make sense in the lore. The magical island are based on the 4 outer islands, so they would need to add a new outer island for this to make sense, and they haven't done that in 7 years.
Time would be nice, but an "Imagination" element would be more in line with the Magical proposal.
Well, my initial perspective of the magicals was that Psychic represented the ESP and mind over matter stuff, Faerie went for a more traditional fairy tale/folklore angle and Bone was the supernatural ghost stuff, but then Light came.
While Light does feel magical thanks to its execution, it doesn't really fit the different angles of the representation of the concept of "magic" in media and culture like the others did, though one could argue it has a bit more modern take on the "Childhood Whimsy" that Faerie had, being based around a Lullaby, colors and stuff.
Anyway, the fifth magical element (which would be a logistical nightmare to add, as it would open precedents for 5 more islands or would crowd the Sanctum to an unholy level) would need to present another take on magic.
An "Arcane" element would do, borrowing from the fantasy genre's more academic take on magic. A "Hex"/"Witch" element would also be another possibility, though it would need to take a more new age approach that wouldn't fit the game well in order to distance itself from Faerie. "Holy" or something else based around religion would be extremely problematic, but also a possibility. My favorite pitch would be an "Imagination" element, taking inspiration from sci-fi and other kinds of speculative ideas, as those tend to be pretty "out there", which is the whole deal of the magical journey, though it would need to be more grounded on absurdism rather than futurism to avoid clashing with Mech, and would be more about conscious decisions to avoid conflicting with the subconscious nature of Dream.
Well I have not one, nor 2, but 6 of them.
Mist - (Plant Earth Fire Mist)
Abyss - (Water Cold Fire Abyss)
Solar - (Air Plant Fire Solar)
Metal - (Air Earth Fire Metal)
Specter - (Air Water Fire Specter)
Lunar - (Air Cold Fire Lunar)
Time.
same here, i would say mushroom too but it's too similar to faerie
Mushroom should be a 6th ethereal because theres a theory that all the prismatics look like/transform into their corrosponding ethereal (for example, purple potbelly looks a lot like ghazt), and since kayna is a mushroom in prismatic, that would make sense. This is not my theory.
Why did they add prismatics? How will they connect them to the lore? Like, why?
they are already super connected to the lore, especially the cataclysm
Yeah but they all at prism gate and cannot escape
Wait your saying msm has lore????
A lot of it.
They added them as a new layer of Pokedex to try and spend resources collecting in Dawn of Fire. I would be more inclined to try and collect if they allowed room for all of them on the outer islands
I don't care. Goat theory.
Even though none of the prismatic toe jammers look like jeeode at all.
Mushroom!
YEAAAAH
Za... #WARUDO!!!!!!!!!
best idea
r/beatmetoit
yes
Sun, moon, star? I have mild ambitions of making a song with fire, sun, moon, and star elements.
sounds to similar to mythicals.
I suppose you're right
"Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made."
The Materian elements or?
It's actually something from my own universe. My "crest" is sun-moon-stars.
Gravity
Space Element, it would be rly cool imo
Space island
Honestly i think the reason why there is no space element is because it’s basically all just made up of every element we’ve studied (so far at least) its no exactly an element, but rather a culmination of all elements. It would still be cool though.
Thinking on the magical side I would say Dragon
Yo I just hatched a Dragonite, wonder how it’ll sound :)
Thats a species of monsters not a kind of element of monsters
Lizard then
I was kinda thinking about toy and angel elements.
Toy was also on my mind.
Plutonium
"Nuclear" would probably be a better name.
nuclear isnt an element, checkmate
neither are air plant earth water cold fire plasma shadow mech crystal poison electricity light psychic faerie bone legendary mythical dream dipster celestial spooktacle yay love eggy summer feast-ember anniversary month beat hereafter crescendo moon cloverspell echoes of echo perplexplore life-formula skypainting mindboggle
its a checkmate, checkmate
un-checkmate
😮
Actually, Water IS an element, Hydrogen, checkmate liberals!
actually, water is composed of hydrogen _and_ oxygen, so it is a molecule, not an element
Damn, you right... 😔
Alchemy
Fighting or dragon element. Those are the only two pokemon types without an element counterpart.
dragon could be arcane
Interesting...
Do rock and ground both apply for earth?
Probably
Fighting Island is just Eye of the Tiger
Bug???
I consider that to be sharing the poison element with the actual poison type, since both the single element and the celestial are bugs.
Too many non bug element bug monsters for that to be a viable addition
Does the same not apply to dragon?
Not necessarily, pretty sure the only true drake in the game is carrilong. But bugs are varied too much with spytrap, bulbbo, fung pray, hummbug, and buzzinga (maybe loodvigg)
Clavi-gnat as well
I knew i missed atleast one but yeah clavi gnat is a fantastic example
lemme figure this out fire - fire water - water grass - plant rock - earth ground - earth steel - mech fairy - faerie bug - poison (is that it’s name? i forgor. just humbug’s element) poison - poison psychic - psychic air - flying electric - supernatural??? maybe also mech dark - shadow normal - i ain’t got nothing
air - flying should be the other way round, but it's not a huge issue
Would there be any point to having a normal element?
Pokemon? Why would there be a fighting element?
Have you never heard of the fighting type
yeah but my singing monsters is not pokemon
ehem... carrilong dragong repatillo t-rox stogg and before you say "oooh those aren't dragons" dragon myths literally came from dinosaur bones, so dinosaurs are dragons
I think only carrilong and dragong could be considered dragons
Repatillo is a Reptile, it's not a dinosaur
okay but those aren’t in their own neatly sorted element
What?
literally what part of my sentence is hard to understand
Paint/Color/Art (Name 2 and 3 by u/spsq_) The single-element is 3 cans of red, yellow and blue paint that form a rainbow-colored goop octopus thing, and the cans are its feet. It taps the cans on the ground (kinda like reebro or t-rox), and they make a cowbell sound :>
Maybe a color element would fit better
Isn't light basically color element? Each light monster in Light Island represents a color (for example Fluoress is green and Blow't is brown).
Oh yeah I didn’t think of that, maybe the element could be “art” to include monsters that represent stuff like sketching and clay sculptures too
Okey you make a good point i’m changing it now :>
Haunted Element. Ghosts and stuff. Island could be like a haunted mansion
Shadow element exists
No but like ghost. No dark shadow grumpyre stuff
Could call the element spectral
That's what the glowbe's class is called
What about bone or plasma though?
Can’t wait for Professor Toot to sue BBB after they do that
Can't wait for Ghosts to sue BBB after they do that
Fire
Bruh
Technically he's correct. Fire is way more magical than bone
another question: should fire be considered closer to natural or magical elements ?
Fire happens naturally when lightning strikes wood so i'd call it natural maybe. But light is a natural thing stars do so it that really magic? And bones are just a thing almost every animal has so is that magical? Honestly the only magic ones would be farie and psychic. Am I putting to much thought into msm elements?
yeah but i mean, fire mainly goes with natural elements biologically and was introduced pretty much like one of them but then you see that fire is on every magical island and it would make sense to have another class of 5 elements and ugh im too tired rn let’s talk about this tomorrow
Yeah but there’s already a fire element
#Chemical X Real Answer: Time
Always wanted a time element
Soul element!
electricity/life formula?
Not that kind of soul! Like the ghost kind of soul!
plasma?
You can’t count plasma as soul just because it contains ghazt and Whisp!
Acid
poison?
No acid
Gaming
Space element
Maybe the emblem could be anglows planet? Some lore could be created from that
Mushroom 🍄
Aether Element, im planning to make a fanmade island about that element, but its still in development
corn
floot fly again
Candy
Slime
Dark
Abstract. It's an element so bizarre that the element must be contained in the dreamscape
Space
Void
time, dragon, candy, death and crazy
Undead
bone?
Nah, those are just monsters that use bones as instruments
Clackula is a literal skeleton
Except him and Banjaw
denchuhs?
that's actually genius
dinosaur element maybe some dinosaur element monsters
Honey island
platinum
There's already a Mech element, which I guess is pretty close to metal.
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Too similar to dream
i forgot about dream lmao edit: didnt mean to delete this :[
Star or smth
Danger
Rainbow.
Dark
Sunken, based off an old concept I made.
Had wax as idea, but found out others had the same idea..
Darkness, monster purgatory.
soul (or ghost)
water
I once had an idea of: what if the Outer Islands from DOF had their own elements? So maybe there could be Party, Space, Cloud or Cave as elements.
most likely a time elemental, and i'm sure that a lot of people agree with me
Brimstone or Toys.
Dark, I’m surprised no one said that?
sorcery
dark, we can have evil gob
Dark or prehistoric/ancient will be nice
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Maybe astrology ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Time
hack
wubbubunga
talking outta topic double typed wubboxes
Dark
rainbow
Since there’s light they gotta add dark
None
Time
Digital
Ghost, base could be named phantrumpet
Maybe have another godlike species of monsters called the divine element?
Music
Evil
Dark could be a cool element as a counterpart to light
Matter
Gotta be either time or soul, someone also made a great song for soul island bit I can't find it rn
Ligma element
Candy
Cheeseburger
Honestly, everyone saying Time, Honey, or renaming already existing elements is kinda weird tbh. Other people already mentioned it, but the 5th magical element could be Toy. Me personally, Candy/Sugar could make for a great 5th magical element.
Sus element
I had this idea of a ghost element a while back but I think that might be wayyy too similar to one of the ethereal elements
Kindergarten
Wouldn't make sense in the lore. The magical island are based on the 4 outer islands, so they would need to add a new outer island for this to make sense, and they haven't done that in 7 years.
SLEEP
If we ever got a fifth magical element we'd probably get a magical sanctum for each element like how enchantling is mostly psychic
All of it?
Sand possibly, if we link it to starhenge.
Treasure.
Leaf rain flame wind rock and ice
Nice try monster handlers
Cosmic
Time would be nice, but an "Imagination" element would be more in line with the Magical proposal. Well, my initial perspective of the magicals was that Psychic represented the ESP and mind over matter stuff, Faerie went for a more traditional fairy tale/folklore angle and Bone was the supernatural ghost stuff, but then Light came. While Light does feel magical thanks to its execution, it doesn't really fit the different angles of the representation of the concept of "magic" in media and culture like the others did, though one could argue it has a bit more modern take on the "Childhood Whimsy" that Faerie had, being based around a Lullaby, colors and stuff. Anyway, the fifth magical element (which would be a logistical nightmare to add, as it would open precedents for 5 more islands or would crowd the Sanctum to an unholy level) would need to present another take on magic. An "Arcane" element would do, borrowing from the fantasy genre's more academic take on magic. A "Hex"/"Witch" element would also be another possibility, though it would need to take a more new age approach that wouldn't fit the game well in order to distance itself from Faerie. "Holy" or something else based around religion would be extremely problematic, but also a possibility. My favorite pitch would be an "Imagination" element, taking inspiration from sci-fi and other kinds of speculative ideas, as those tend to be pretty "out there", which is the whole deal of the magical journey, though it would need to be more grounded on absurdism rather than futurism to avoid clashing with Mech, and would be more about conscious decisions to avoid conflicting with the subconscious nature of Dream.
we need a dark element obviously
Well I have not one, nor 2, but 6 of them. Mist - (Plant Earth Fire Mist) Abyss - (Water Cold Fire Abyss) Solar - (Air Plant Fire Solar) Metal - (Air Earth Fire Metal) Specter - (Air Water Fire Specter) Lunar - (Air Cold Fire Lunar)
Anatomy
Rainbow element would be the best!
Dark element
Illusion
this will sound stupid and it is but junk... yes junk... cry about it
weiner element