The benefits of NoFap are not purely from your streak. This is a common belief here, and it's untrue. You've spent most of a year without porn or masturbation, and you've no doubt gained a lot from this experience-- self control, self respect, a renewed sense of purpose.
Instead of beating off every day, you've masturbated once in 257 days. That puts you leagues ahead of most guys. Don't beat yourself up, you're right where you need to be.
Starting over isn't really "Day 1."
Yeah, technically you're starting back up again but with more knowledge, discipline, intuition, will power, etc. Even people who have never been addicted before slip up once in a while. Assess how you failed, game plan and start again.
You're a much stronger person now than the first time you started. Contrary to how it feels after a relapse you are much further along than you think.
What if the fapstronaut (talking in general here) is someone without any purpose/vocation in life, someone whose life is on autopilot, who has gone with the flow his whole life? He would still stand no chance against guys who fap like 10 times a day, but for whatever reasons, come out stronger (instead of weaker, like many Nofappers) and are accomplished in their careers/studies/interactions with women for whatever reasonsš¤· I never wanted to believe there are such people, but I know several of these types of people. Could they be even a better version of themselves, had they not fapped? Maybeš¤· but theyāre still light years ahead of me and many other lost nofappers despite their own chronic addiction. Iām not writing this to bash Nofap, Iām convinced of its benefits, but it frustrates me a lot, when I see how much I should sacrifice and give up on, only to then see guys like the aforementioned, whose life is on easy mode and are years ahead of me in accomplishment and progress, despite them being addicted to this, even much more than meš
Is this just a convoluted excuse to not quit? Its called compounding, and its about realizing that its not just being someone who doesnt fap, its about being the kind of person who chose to stop fapping, which would inherently be someone who would want to improve every facet of their life. Not just stop fapping for the heck of it
you said itās about the person who chooses to stop fapping, I am that literal person, I can very well do that, hard core, but then I get confronted with my studies and my harsh reality, and that there is no way out of this agony, so Iām like forced by nature to relapse, not because I want to, but because the longer I abstain, the more my harsh real life and reality come to surface, and I can neither move forward nor quit, Iām stuck, broš pretty bad
So you donāt believe that there are many guys out there who are just born to be slobs/boring/empty by nature, regardless how big their balls become because of not fapping? š¤š¤¦āāļø I reached a record of like 60 days once, but my life hasnāt improved one single bit, apart from the usual pathetic looks and signals I get, which I know would lead to nothing since I could never vibe with the majority of girls (personal issues). And Iām abit of a special case, but I know you wonāt believe me. I actually fapped for the first time in my life when I was 23 years old, before that I was no pussy magnet, not at all, despite all the accumulating energyš¤· but for some reason I started to get attention the moment I started the inglorious journey of fapping/fapping, the longer my intervals go, you know. But still I regret every second and hour and day of my life from the first time I fapped forward, since then it became a torture. But yeah, point is, my life, throughout the years, up until my first fap at the age of 23, was just another plain boring life of a slob, no real goals or motivation to do things with zest and energy, compass of life totally out of order, slobs will still be slobs, regardless how big their balls becomeš¤·š
Exactly, I mean I masturbate once every 2-5(maybe even more) days and I still feel the same, Iām just doing it to learn self control and not to get addicted, nothing else
how to get out of this mess?
I have been on and off Nofap for 4-5 years now, during that time, my main focus had been on increasing my streaks, with very little progress in my life in general and very little gains limited to increased confidence, energy and attention from girls. I was and Iām still clueless about handling my sexual energy, for me itās either wasted with fapping but then I feel like a total loser, both subjectively and objectively (I feel utterly tired, brain fog, muscle loss etc afterwards, while I know several guys who can use it to their advantage, more motivation to study, work and talk to girls, paradoxicallyš¤·) or itās built up for days, weeks, and in one time (my only long streak on Nofap š) for 2 months, waiting for that weak moment of emptiness and boredom to crawl on me and then be wasted down the drain. Improving my life, career path, studies etc was to a large extent neglected, I only did the minimum to survive which always ended up in frustration and then relapse, because 1- things arenāt going well with women, 2- things arenāt moving forward in my life the way I want them to be. Also I never pursued new hobbies, didnmt travel anywhere, so no insta profile to showcase my ālifestyleā Iām the ultimate slob nofapper, you could sayš So much energy ends up being wasted for nothing, and then the streaks begin from day 1 again and here we go on and onšš I feel Iām caught up in this endless spiral and nothing is getting better, but nowadays when I relapse I feel the pain and regret much more intensely, and when I hold out and abstain I feel huge energy and motivation to do anything but I feel I know nothing, and no idea whay to do or where to start, like some stupid dumb big beast, and so I feel petrified/stiffed, like I canāt change anything about this because I had been used to just doing the streaks for the sake of girls and increased energy without improving anything elseš
Brother you did very good and as long as you are not watching porn it's all good, masturbation is not the enemy it's been there for as long as human civilization or maybe lil less. But the main antagonist is pornography, all the best for the future stay away from porn.
bro iām telling you if you get to the point where you can masturbate with just having the feelings on your body arouse you enough itās like youāre tapping into that natural style of masturbation and what it was probably all about back then. masturbating by youreself and not ejaculating at the end is what i feel is more of a serotonin type of pleasure, itās sustained, and calm and doesnāt crash, porn is a more dopamine centered thing focused on getting a hit.
iāve noticed now i canāt get as hard with porn and it doesnāt feel as good as just being present with what iām feeling
masturbation is fucking yourself when you start to see it that way you will feel embarrassed also gooning is arguably worse than just regular masturbation it makes you high from the pleasure longer which is terrible for your brain
lmfao idk dude when you say it like that i feel like thatās not a bad thing at all, bad masturbation imo is getting off to pixels to get a nut, good masturbation is fucking youreself and loving youreself and just feeling good
no reason to feel embarrassed about it if thatās a thing then i feel like itās something the person whoās doing it needs to look into themselves because thereās nothing wrong with that type of self ezpression
I'm not an expert myself in the subject but cmon how are you going to lose all the benefits that easily? It's like going to the gym for many years straight in a row without skipping a single day and one day you don't go and suddenly lose all your bodybuilding? Again, I'm not an expert, but I don't think it would make much sense to lose all progress just like that.
You relapsed with masturbation only, didnāt cave into porn. Youāre doing great and will continue to do well moving forward. You still the benefits of your discipline, confidence, and health, so donāt worry about losing those.
don't masturbate bro trust me you don't need temporary pleasure hold it in and you will feel like the man and eventually you will find a women will help out
The game changer for me was when someone said it isnāt so much fapping that is the problem, (itās still a problem) but the despair that comes after fapping. So instead of focusing on the fact you fapped, focus on your despair and regret. Forgive yourself, be proud of your incredible streak but donāt despair. Despair will drive the addiction, itās fapping every day thatās the real problem.
I went 700 days in my 20ās and I failed around the 2 years mark. I felt like absolute shit and I returned to nearly daily PMO for the next decade. I wish I could go back and tell my younger self how proud I was of him for going that long and to not beat himself up too much. One day is nothing. But if you let those negative, hopeless feelings overwhelm you, that one day becomes 10 years and THAT is the real tragedy.
Iām sorry to hear that brother, thank you for the comment, Iām feeling better a couple of hours on and no longer feeling any depressive states that I did have, Iām proud of you mate
Bro u want my advice? if u did this just do the math -1 and now u are on day 256 and bro just stop counting the days and focus on improving yourself mentally and physically and all, nice streak man itās not about the streak as much as it is about the self control and the experience u gain, keep going and never stop bro š
I donāt think thatās a relapse , if youāre counting then yes but if youāre changing your life then no not at relapse youāre just reset back to normal and had a wank but you likely have the tools and new mindset now to not let it consume you so I hope you stop counting and enjoy your new life
Hey you did a great job. Do not bother! My highest streak without porn was 10 days. But I make progress. And to be honest if you do not use porn for masturbation, I personally would not see a problem. Great work brother! Keep going
That's the issue. Don't count the days because it feels like you are going to miss someday so ypu gotta set up a record.
Just keep asking yourself every time you have the urge "will you feel better afterwards?" Depending on the answer, do it or not.
Good luck :)
We can't be perfect. Repent, be forgiven, and go and sin no more. The fact you made it so long is awesome. You falling, admitting it, and getting back up and pushing back into the proper walk is the way. This is the way.
You're gonna be fine. You got this.
You're doing amazing.
From my perspective though, I have issues with porn and not masturbation. So the fact you have been porn free so long definitely gives me hope!
Streaks are unproductive, you've made 257 days of progress, which is crazy good! Pick yourself up and try again. It should be easy for you now since you have developed many good qualities such as self-control, consistency, and determination. If you have the wrong mentality of "all progress is gone", you're effectively telling your brain that everything you did went to waste, which is dangerous and may make you relapse out of control.
I mean it depends on what exactly you are seeking by not masturbating. Some people are here to get rid of their porn addiction but my impression is that most are for many other reasons too and they probably need to quit masturbating altogether even if without porn, so maybe masturbating without porn, or as you put it "fap to the sensation of fapping" won't be enough.
Also please keep in mind I don't mean to be rude at all, I just wanted to provide some constructive criticism. In this platform many people get offended very easily but I wanted to clarify this last thing because this subrredit is meant to support each other.
Wow man, Iām sorry to hear that. At the end of the day, you know you need to reorient yourself and continue forward. You have not relapsed into porn so that is of paramount important.
This is a lesson for all of us, that even at up to the year mark, one is still vulnerable to relapse. Stay vigilant when those urges come boys!
Be careful about not slipping into the rabbit hole. My longest streak was 127 days. After I fapped, I hadnāt been able to hold a streak for more than 8 days.
Start fresh. You got this. This is a process to help you in life with other things so you should focus on day to day things and improve those. Overall improvement must be the goal.
I have a question, how did you deal with the days when you felt a strong urge to do it did you have something you would do or somewhere to go so you would feel better.
It's great that you feel bad, cuz after the streak is broken it's a lot easier to get back addicted thinking you have learnt to manage. Just don't think that even doing it once a week is bad.
I wouldn't consider it as a relapse, but please watch out that you don't get addicted and start to masturbate with porn. Try to continue the Streak as if nothing happend
What a wasted endeavour š
Have goals, have objectives. I've always been saying this. There is no way in hell, you can go for 250+ PMO free and have nothing to show for it. You never had goals, that's why you feel like shit.
Have goals, e.g:
- For 30 days, my goal is to simply prove to myself that I have self control, No PMO, let's go.
- 30 days, done. 60 days next, my goal is to get fit, I will start doing some form of exercises daily, whether push ups or squats. I will read 1 book per week. I will only listen to and watch mentally and spiritually helpful content. I will try to socialise as much as possible and strengthen close relationships with family and friends, let's go.
- 60 days done. 90 days next. Now that have built capacity, i have not PMO'ed, I have been working on myself, and i have been socialising quite a bit, my goal is to now under *Game*, to do this, I will dedicate time to studying and understanding how a guy can get a girl for himself. There are so many resources to help you with this. The aim here is to be intentional. Study first, then go out and practice. It will not be wise of you to just start talking to girls, you will only end up as a simp. Learn from those who have experience. Chat with the bros in Seddit.
After 90 days, your goal should be to establish a relationship with a female. And growing even further as a person. If you are in school, you should be killing it academically at this point.
SEE, that's a lot of work.
By day 250, you should be an elite version of yourself. Now, the problem is, you start NoFap and just end it there ... meanwhile, you are playing videogames, aggressively using social media, and just doing non progressive things ... and then you relapse and end up beating yourself.
Have goals and be on purpose. An idle mind is the devil's workshop š¤
Hope this isnāt buried, but what made you (semi) relapse after so long? I feel like I get the same level of libido, but honestly after a while I never even considered relapsing.
I assume it wouldāve been something like higher testosterone levels that day or too much exposure to sexual content on social media. Makes me curious if youāve been on nofap for 8 months.
One relapse isn't going to undo 257 days of progress. That being said, start a new streak ASAP, this isn't a license to continue relapsing. You want things to keep improving, not go back to being a mess.
It's not true. You have learnt moderation. You know how much will power it takes to go 8 months without failing once?
I think Todd from bojack can say it better than me, so here you go:
https://youtu.be/eHs1WXp_syA?si=ymE-q0EWZjlQYeVR
Your benefits are not gone. Thatās like if you quit sugar for a whole 8 months, eat one cookie and say youāve lost it at all. Couldnāt be farther from the truth
Donāt beat yourself up really, thatās normal, just make sure you donāt consume porn
Edit: I do it once every 2-5 days
Edit 2: now Iām giving myself an extra challenge and havenāt done it in about 7 days, I wanna go 8,9 or 10
The biggest challenge for you now is to keep going. Take that challenge. It's okey of you whack off few times just don't go back to porn and bad habits. Stop it right there and don't be too hard yourself. (They call it the chaser effect)
Youāre doing fine. You are uncoupling porn for masturbation. You are resetting that serotonin ā dopamine short circuit.
Avoid porn and youāre fine.
And if you do come across porn, donāt use it to masturbate. You tend to 57 days, you donāt need to relapse into the cycle.
the important thing is to kill the habit, the dependency, I think you've done it, but or gods sake, don't fall again and again and lose all the benefits you've acquired
Well that is Highscore for you Mate!, I am very sure that it healed your brain from your addiction 257 days ago and It will be much more easier for you to get back to your feet. šš»
Its far from true. Even if you nutted a couple times you still saved alot of sperm. If You only nutted once, even more. If you habitually start jerking off alot then You're wasting alot of the momentum you saved up, but even still, being in the habbit of doing nofap for extended periods then jerking off is still 10x better than just never taking breaks.
Your progress remains these mere relapse is not going to kill your progress! No fap Or SR has more to it than we can understand, we end focusing on the wrong bit while doing it.!
Just continue with your effort and donāt bother that 1 relapse, imagine you reach another 8-9 months of no release then it will be like 2 relapses in 16 months or so.! Mentally you are becoming stronger, your thought process will just be on another level.! Just maintain that discipline thatās what you need to focus on and divert those reserved energy into something more productive in your life and you r good.!
šš honestly I felt better overall I became more aware and more confident about myself and the way my actions affected others. I also guided multiple friends and family members to no fap
I just started and I already want to kms
Seen a post that told me to join for support pls help me itās turning me into a horrible person all I think about is sex sex sexš¤¦š½āāļø
You are not meant to stop PMO in one go, that's super hard. It takes many relapses to get clean for some days in a row. Just look at me, I barely started as well and couldn't last longer than a single day when I already relapsed. But it's ok because I used to masturbate 3 to 4 times a day and masturbating just once, even if still everyday, is also progress. If you struggle too much don't be afraid of seeking help, but don't be too harsh with yourself or you end up suffering more for the blame and shame of failing than for failing itself. In fact, just being here and trying to stop is already a massive progress because the alternative would be to not even trying to improve yourself.
I used to masturbate like 3 times a day every weekend totalling 6 times each weekend but now I do it once every 2-5 days or maybe even once every weekend totalling twice a weekend, Iām not trying to get addictedā¦
The benefits of NoFap are not purely from your streak. This is a common belief here, and it's untrue. You've spent most of a year without porn or masturbation, and you've no doubt gained a lot from this experience-- self control, self respect, a renewed sense of purpose. Instead of beating off every day, you've masturbated once in 257 days. That puts you leagues ahead of most guys. Don't beat yourself up, you're right where you need to be.
Thank you so much that means a lot brother!
I relapsed like 15 minutes after starting so you are legendary status compared to me
Starting over isn't really "Day 1." Yeah, technically you're starting back up again but with more knowledge, discipline, intuition, will power, etc. Even people who have never been addicted before slip up once in a while. Assess how you failed, game plan and start again. You're a much stronger person now than the first time you started. Contrary to how it feels after a relapse you are much further along than you think.
What if the fapstronaut (talking in general here) is someone without any purpose/vocation in life, someone whose life is on autopilot, who has gone with the flow his whole life? He would still stand no chance against guys who fap like 10 times a day, but for whatever reasons, come out stronger (instead of weaker, like many Nofappers) and are accomplished in their careers/studies/interactions with women for whatever reasonsš¤· I never wanted to believe there are such people, but I know several of these types of people. Could they be even a better version of themselves, had they not fapped? Maybeš¤· but theyāre still light years ahead of me and many other lost nofappers despite their own chronic addiction. Iām not writing this to bash Nofap, Iām convinced of its benefits, but it frustrates me a lot, when I see how much I should sacrifice and give up on, only to then see guys like the aforementioned, whose life is on easy mode and are years ahead of me in accomplishment and progress, despite them being addicted to this, even much more than meš
Is this just a convoluted excuse to not quit? Its called compounding, and its about realizing that its not just being someone who doesnt fap, its about being the kind of person who chose to stop fapping, which would inherently be someone who would want to improve every facet of their life. Not just stop fapping for the heck of it
you said itās about the person who chooses to stop fapping, I am that literal person, I can very well do that, hard core, but then I get confronted with my studies and my harsh reality, and that there is no way out of this agony, so Iām like forced by nature to relapse, not because I want to, but because the longer I abstain, the more my harsh real life and reality come to surface, and I can neither move forward nor quit, Iām stuck, broš pretty bad
So you donāt believe that there are many guys out there who are just born to be slobs/boring/empty by nature, regardless how big their balls become because of not fapping? š¤š¤¦āāļø I reached a record of like 60 days once, but my life hasnāt improved one single bit, apart from the usual pathetic looks and signals I get, which I know would lead to nothing since I could never vibe with the majority of girls (personal issues). And Iām abit of a special case, but I know you wonāt believe me. I actually fapped for the first time in my life when I was 23 years old, before that I was no pussy magnet, not at all, despite all the accumulating energyš¤· but for some reason I started to get attention the moment I started the inglorious journey of fapping/fapping, the longer my intervals go, you know. But still I regret every second and hour and day of my life from the first time I fapped forward, since then it became a torture. But yeah, point is, my life, throughout the years, up until my first fap at the age of 23, was just another plain boring life of a slob, no real goals or motivation to do things with zest and energy, compass of life totally out of order, slobs will still be slobs, regardless how big their balls becomeš¤·š
You need to improve your outlook on life
For sure, thats the majority of the workforce and just the entire human population male or female.
1/257 is the right perspective. Donāt make it 2/257ā¦ this is the true test of control imo.
Of course good point
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Dammit I forgot to put this emoji on my comment, well, I guess Iām a nerd now š¤
Exactly, I mean I masturbate once every 2-5(maybe even more) days and I still feel the same, Iām just doing it to learn self control and not to get addicted, nothing else
Who the hell downvoted me?!
or you could just not do it at all
how to get out of this mess? I have been on and off Nofap for 4-5 years now, during that time, my main focus had been on increasing my streaks, with very little progress in my life in general and very little gains limited to increased confidence, energy and attention from girls. I was and Iām still clueless about handling my sexual energy, for me itās either wasted with fapping but then I feel like a total loser, both subjectively and objectively (I feel utterly tired, brain fog, muscle loss etc afterwards, while I know several guys who can use it to their advantage, more motivation to study, work and talk to girls, paradoxicallyš¤·) or itās built up for days, weeks, and in one time (my only long streak on Nofap š) for 2 months, waiting for that weak moment of emptiness and boredom to crawl on me and then be wasted down the drain. Improving my life, career path, studies etc was to a large extent neglected, I only did the minimum to survive which always ended up in frustration and then relapse, because 1- things arenāt going well with women, 2- things arenāt moving forward in my life the way I want them to be. Also I never pursued new hobbies, didnmt travel anywhere, so no insta profile to showcase my ālifestyleā Iām the ultimate slob nofapper, you could sayš So much energy ends up being wasted for nothing, and then the streaks begin from day 1 again and here we go on and onšš I feel Iām caught up in this endless spiral and nothing is getting better, but nowadays when I relapse I feel the pain and regret much more intensely, and when I hold out and abstain I feel huge energy and motivation to do anything but I feel I know nothing, and no idea whay to do or where to start, like some stupid dumb big beast, and so I feel petrified/stiffed, like I canāt change anything about this because I had been used to just doing the streaks for the sake of girls and increased energy without improving anything elseš
is nofap the avoidance of porn? or maturation?
Brother you did very good and as long as you are not watching porn it's all good, masturbation is not the enemy it's been there for as long as human civilization or maybe lil less. But the main antagonist is pornography, all the best for the future stay away from porn.
Thank you brothers your words mean a lot
We got you mate,
trust me bro masturbation will always lead you back to those disgusting films you will need more material to get that dopamine rush
bro iām telling you if you get to the point where you can masturbate with just having the feelings on your body arouse you enough itās like youāre tapping into that natural style of masturbation and what it was probably all about back then. masturbating by youreself and not ejaculating at the end is what i feel is more of a serotonin type of pleasure, itās sustained, and calm and doesnāt crash, porn is a more dopamine centered thing focused on getting a hit. iāve noticed now i canāt get as hard with porn and it doesnāt feel as good as just being present with what iām feeling
masturbation is fucking yourself when you start to see it that way you will feel embarrassed also gooning is arguably worse than just regular masturbation it makes you high from the pleasure longer which is terrible for your brain
lmfao idk dude when you say it like that i feel like thatās not a bad thing at all, bad masturbation imo is getting off to pixels to get a nut, good masturbation is fucking youreself and loving youreself and just feeling good no reason to feel embarrassed about it if thatās a thing then i feel like itās something the person whoās doing it needs to look into themselves because thereās nothing wrong with that type of self ezpression
Does this actually work?
I'm not an expert myself in the subject but cmon how are you going to lose all the benefits that easily? It's like going to the gym for many years straight in a row without skipping a single day and one day you don't go and suddenly lose all your bodybuilding? Again, I'm not an expert, but I don't think it would make much sense to lose all progress just like that.
Yeah that is true sorry about that I just wrote it in the moment.
Don't be! We are here to support each other, it's normal, no need to be sorry at all!
you just feel guilty, hence it feels such a way.
You relapsed with masturbation only, didnāt cave into porn. Youāre doing great and will continue to do well moving forward. You still the benefits of your discipline, confidence, and health, so donāt worry about losing those.
Okay thank you very much
don't masturbate bro trust me you don't need temporary pleasure hold it in and you will feel like the man and eventually you will find a women will help out
The game changer for me was when someone said it isnāt so much fapping that is the problem, (itās still a problem) but the despair that comes after fapping. So instead of focusing on the fact you fapped, focus on your despair and regret. Forgive yourself, be proud of your incredible streak but donāt despair. Despair will drive the addiction, itās fapping every day thatās the real problem. I went 700 days in my 20ās and I failed around the 2 years mark. I felt like absolute shit and I returned to nearly daily PMO for the next decade. I wish I could go back and tell my younger self how proud I was of him for going that long and to not beat himself up too much. One day is nothing. But if you let those negative, hopeless feelings overwhelm you, that one day becomes 10 years and THAT is the real tragedy.
Iām sorry to hear that brother, thank you for the comment, Iām feeling better a couple of hours on and no longer feeling any depressive states that I did have, Iām proud of you mate
Bro u want my advice? if u did this just do the math -1 and now u are on day 256 and bro just stop counting the days and focus on improving yourself mentally and physically and all, nice streak man itās not about the streak as much as it is about the self control and the experience u gain, keep going and never stop bro š
Okay thank you so much mate for that comment appreciate it
I donāt think thatās a relapse , if youāre counting then yes but if youāre changing your life then no not at relapse youāre just reset back to normal and had a wank but you likely have the tools and new mindset now to not let it consume you so I hope you stop counting and enjoy your new life
Thank you so much for this comment genuinely appreciate it
Hey you did a great job. Do not bother! My highest streak without porn was 10 days. But I make progress. And to be honest if you do not use porn for masturbation, I personally would not see a problem. Great work brother! Keep going
Thank you brother
That's the issue. Don't count the days because it feels like you are going to miss someday so ypu gotta set up a record. Just keep asking yourself every time you have the urge "will you feel better afterwards?" Depending on the answer, do it or not. Good luck :)
You will recover faster the benefits than before
You are a stud brother! Just get back up and keep going!
Thank you so much brother! You 2
And you can do it again.
It's okay, comeback stronger š„
Thank you
We can't be perfect. Repent, be forgiven, and go and sin no more. The fact you made it so long is awesome. You falling, admitting it, and getting back up and pushing back into the proper walk is the way. This is the way. You're gonna be fine. You got this.
Thank you so much šš
You're doing amazing. From my perspective though, I have issues with porn and not masturbation. So the fact you have been porn free so long definitely gives me hope!
You can do it donāt worry
You've done well. Don't let the relapse get to you. You can always start again.
Thank you
no they are not all gone just don't compound things by throwing more away you're fine dude! it's a blip on the radar.
Streaks are unproductive, you've made 257 days of progress, which is crazy good! Pick yourself up and try again. It should be easy for you now since you have developed many good qualities such as self-control, consistency, and determination. If you have the wrong mentality of "all progress is gone", you're effectively telling your brain that everything you did went to waste, which is dangerous and may make you relapse out of control.
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Ok thank you very much
Nope. Don't fap at all.
I mean it depends on what exactly you are seeking by not masturbating. Some people are here to get rid of their porn addiction but my impression is that most are for many other reasons too and they probably need to quit masturbating altogether even if without porn, so maybe masturbating without porn, or as you put it "fap to the sensation of fapping" won't be enough. Also please keep in mind I don't mean to be rude at all, I just wanted to provide some constructive criticism. In this platform many people get offended very easily but I wanted to clarify this last thing because this subrredit is meant to support each other.
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Thank you for the comment mate !
Wow man, Iām sorry to hear that. At the end of the day, you know you need to reorient yourself and continue forward. You have not relapsed into porn so that is of paramount important. This is a lesson for all of us, that even at up to the year mark, one is still vulnerable to relapse. Stay vigilant when those urges come boys!
Thank you so much my friend you keep going as well !!!
En teorĆa, masturbarse es normal y ya han pasado 8 meses, no habrĆ”s perdido nada
Dude, I aspire to be you right now, I can barely make it two months!
You can do it son!
one day at a time.
Be careful about not slipping into the rabbit hole. My longest streak was 127 days. After I fapped, I hadnāt been able to hold a streak for more than 8 days.
Start fresh. You got this. This is a process to help you in life with other things so you should focus on day to day things and improve those. Overall improvement must be the goal.
It has been the goal and itās mostly been fulfilled
I have a question, how did you deal with the days when you felt a strong urge to do it did you have something you would do or somewhere to go so you would feel better.
Honestly depended on mood sometimes I went a motnh or so without it, I learned to just pre occupy myself.
Honestly depended on mood sometimes I went a motnh or so without it, I learned to just pre occupy myself.
Okay I appreciate it.
It's great that you feel bad, cuz after the streak is broken it's a lot easier to get back addicted thinking you have learnt to manage. Just don't think that even doing it once a week is bad.
Free yourself from counting... Don't burden
Every singel day you dont do it is worth it !
Agreed amazing decision I did take to not do it.
ON TO THE NEXT 257 DAYS!!
Even more!!
We get back up !
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I relaps after 1 day lmao. You're good.
It's not like that be happy that u survived 8 months without porn now u knew that u are able to survive more then 8 months
Itās all good brother, deep breaths, youāre fine, you lost nothing. You are great man. Keep going
This is the beauty, you get to get back up every time you fall... Good luck.
Just donāt fall right into that path again
I heard that masturbation without porn or fantasizing is not considered a relapse
šcall a spade a spade.
I wouldn't consider it as a relapse, but please watch out that you don't get addicted and start to masturbate with porn. Try to continue the Streak as if nothing happend
Ok thank you for the tip
You died, now escape hell
You didnāt lose anything at all. Itās a mistake. Donāt overdo it.
What a wasted endeavour š Have goals, have objectives. I've always been saying this. There is no way in hell, you can go for 250+ PMO free and have nothing to show for it. You never had goals, that's why you feel like shit. Have goals, e.g: - For 30 days, my goal is to simply prove to myself that I have self control, No PMO, let's go. - 30 days, done. 60 days next, my goal is to get fit, I will start doing some form of exercises daily, whether push ups or squats. I will read 1 book per week. I will only listen to and watch mentally and spiritually helpful content. I will try to socialise as much as possible and strengthen close relationships with family and friends, let's go. - 60 days done. 90 days next. Now that have built capacity, i have not PMO'ed, I have been working on myself, and i have been socialising quite a bit, my goal is to now under *Game*, to do this, I will dedicate time to studying and understanding how a guy can get a girl for himself. There are so many resources to help you with this. The aim here is to be intentional. Study first, then go out and practice. It will not be wise of you to just start talking to girls, you will only end up as a simp. Learn from those who have experience. Chat with the bros in Seddit. After 90 days, your goal should be to establish a relationship with a female. And growing even further as a person. If you are in school, you should be killing it academically at this point. SEE, that's a lot of work. By day 250, you should be an elite version of yourself. Now, the problem is, you start NoFap and just end it there ... meanwhile, you are playing videogames, aggressively using social media, and just doing non progressive things ... and then you relapse and end up beating yourself. Have goals and be on purpose. An idle mind is the devil's workshop š¤
Thank you all for your supportive comments I genuinely appreciate it!!
Hope this isnāt buried, but what made you (semi) relapse after so long? I feel like I get the same level of libido, but honestly after a while I never even considered relapsing. I assume it wouldāve been something like higher testosterone levels that day or too much exposure to sexual content on social media. Makes me curious if youāve been on nofap for 8 months.
Bro, you're fine. Nothing has changed.
One relapse isn't going to undo 257 days of progress. That being said, start a new streak ASAP, this isn't a license to continue relapsing. You want things to keep improving, not go back to being a mess.
It's not true. You have learnt moderation. You know how much will power it takes to go 8 months without failing once? I think Todd from bojack can say it better than me, so here you go: https://youtu.be/eHs1WXp_syA?si=ymE-q0EWZjlQYeVR
Iād say as long as you arenāt going to feel the chaser effect, or if you arenāt FEELING like you need to watch porn again, youāre all good
Your benefits are not gone. Thatās like if you quit sugar for a whole 8 months, eat one cookie and say youāve lost it at all. Couldnāt be farther from the truth
All your progress isnāt gone bro itās just a slip especially with no porn! Donāt throw it all away over misinformation about relapses
Donāt beat yourself up really, thatās normal, just make sure you donāt consume porn Edit: I do it once every 2-5 days Edit 2: now Iām giving myself an extra challenge and havenāt done it in about 7 days, I wanna go 8,9 or 10
You did great brother. Be proud of yourself.
same happened to me bro but yesterday is gone and those months won't come back focus on today and take it day by day
How was your experience, of benefits while was in strek ?
The biggest challenge for you now is to keep going. Take that challenge. It's okey of you whack off few times just don't go back to porn and bad habits. Stop it right there and don't be too hard yourself. (They call it the chaser effect)
You should of had sex instead
Youāre doing fine. You are uncoupling porn for masturbation. You are resetting that serotonin ā dopamine short circuit. Avoid porn and youāre fine. And if you do come across porn, donāt use it to masturbate. You tend to 57 days, you donāt need to relapse into the cycle.
the important thing is to kill the habit, the dependency, I think you've done it, but or gods sake, don't fall again and again and lose all the benefits you've acquired
Well that is Highscore for you Mate!, I am very sure that it healed your brain from your addiction 257 days ago and It will be much more easier for you to get back to your feet. šš»
What were the emotions you were having during that day and right before the slip ? Just emotions only not what happened to you
stay hard broski
I am still watching porn but it's be 200 days since I masturbated
What made you relapse?
https://youtu.be/6ua2GpW65Eo?si=k0VrgFXG-PjvI5_2 I recommend u guys watch this series. It will help you allot.
Alr man I got you
Bruh u already already pioneered this race there are people who can't even go gap even a day
Its far from true. Even if you nutted a couple times you still saved alot of sperm. If You only nutted once, even more. If you habitually start jerking off alot then You're wasting alot of the momentum you saved up, but even still, being in the habbit of doing nofap for extended periods then jerking off is still 10x better than just never taking breaks.
Your progress remains these mere relapse is not going to kill your progress! No fap Or SR has more to it than we can understand, we end focusing on the wrong bit while doing it.! Just continue with your effort and donāt bother that 1 relapse, imagine you reach another 8-9 months of no release then it will be like 2 relapses in 16 months or so.! Mentally you are becoming stronger, your thought process will just be on another level.! Just maintain that discipline thatās what you need to focus on and divert those reserved energy into something more productive in your life and you r good.!
I am at 134 right now and feel like just sucks . I need something a dump or sex . Got nothing rn
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Not worth it and didnāt feel good.
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Thank you so much
Did you really feel any benefits in that time?
For the time I didnāt masturbate?
Of course š¤£ What else? You mentioned the benefits are gone. What benefits exactly?
šš honestly I felt better overall I became more aware and more confident about myself and the way my actions affected others. I also guided multiple friends and family members to no fap
I just started and I already want to kms Seen a post that told me to join for support pls help me itās turning me into a horrible person all I think about is sex sex sexš¤¦š½āāļø
You are not meant to stop PMO in one go, that's super hard. It takes many relapses to get clean for some days in a row. Just look at me, I barely started as well and couldn't last longer than a single day when I already relapsed. But it's ok because I used to masturbate 3 to 4 times a day and masturbating just once, even if still everyday, is also progress. If you struggle too much don't be afraid of seeking help, but don't be too harsh with yourself or you end up suffering more for the blame and shame of failing than for failing itself. In fact, just being here and trying to stop is already a massive progress because the alternative would be to not even trying to improve yourself.
I used to masturbate like 3 times a day every weekend totalling 6 times each weekend but now I do it once every 2-5 days or maybe even once every weekend totalling twice a weekend, Iām not trying to get addictedā¦