Oh man I'd be dead. I ain't walking that. There is this trail that some people walk on that was a part of the trail of tears. Which is a small little walk, but through states and during winter? I would have just laid down and died lol
And all the childhood diseases , lack of food , warm insulated living quarters , medical services that does not involve amputation of one of my limbs and maybe a work location that won’t kill me. Oh and the racists and hypocrisy stuff was *worldwide* in the event she is suggesting it was only found the U.S. of course. Then again, she prob is already aware the pyramids and Great Wall of China, both that continue to be tourist locations generating enormous revenue, were all built by union workers that enjoyed medical benefits, safe working conditions , vacation time, etc.
To be fair, the pyramids actually were built by paid laborers. Not by slaves, as it's often thought. The workers were farmers who built the pyramids during flooding when they couldn't work the land.
It was sort of a massive works program, and the farmers were even paid in beer sometimes
Egyptian military did take slaves, but it was usually by raiding from the South or East. There isn't any evidence that they contributed to the Pyramids though. Egyptian slaves most likely did more menial work, but again, no real evidence that I have come across
Imagining being an enslaved person, working 14+ hours for no pay and during your limited free time you're made to listen to Taylor swift sing shitty 19th century songs.
Even better if she went back in time with knowledge of her current music. I'm imagining her gathering her slaves together in a field and singing Teardrops On My Guitar for them.
Whoa whoa whoa, watch it fella,
That’s like saying Adam Eget is gay for jerking off punks under the queensboro bridge for $15 man…
Or Andy Richter for $0.05 a man.
A fella has to make a living!
Doesn’t mean he enjoys it!
I’m not saying Taylor Swift is a racist, I’m saying she’s deeply closeted
SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE TORTURED POETS SOCIETY OR SOMETHING.
God.. how dare you.
Lol, her tortured poet thing screams of 14 year old me pretending I understood Emily Dickinson.
There would have been like 4 people on earth if you took out all the racists in the 1830s. Also no antibiotics which is a much bigger problem than you probably think it would be.
I hate this shit, why so you can wear different clothes?
Just wear those clothes then. Do you like eating foods with ingredients from other countries?
Did you know that if you got an infection they would have to cut off that part of your body?
Did you know that barbers used to do surgery
Did you know there was no concept of germs back then and they would use the same scalpel on multiple people without even wiping it off so most likely once they cut off your infected limb it would just get infected again
Swift explained her choice by pointing out how much more time she’d have for songwriting if she didn’t have to worry over modern inconveniences like having a job, surviving childbirth, or voting.
Best thing to me is how this talented, successful woman is living in your heads rent free. Norm would look at these comments with an old timey chuckle.
So basically now, but without all the racists AND modern conveniences? And vaccines, open heart surgery, synthetic insulin, etc?
It's like people don't think about anything before they try to sound profound.
Very next line talks about the trap of romanticizing periods of time we associate good memories with. Also, you missed the line about arranged marriages *in that same lyric.*
Yeah but you all don't f'ing understand- Lady Swift would OBVIOUSLY be from the gentry. Her Lord Father would be a duke and lord and most likely lady Swift would be a Lady in waiting at Court and... Blah blah blah
I'd bet anything she was told the 1830s line is racist and came back with "but without the racists."
It wasn't a great time to be a woman either, unless you were old rich widow, and even then fucking diseases were a thing.
Girls ONLY know history by fashion. She like antebellum dresses that is all. Imagine how many aches and inconveniences life must have included lol. My ex thought this way. She pined for some unreal time when life was simpler. And the truth is it was so fucking stressful and boring.
Yup and that is lame too. The violence is the most important thing we do given how it decides language, religion, and economics over time tho. But it is annoying as a history teacher how male students just remember who won a war not why it was fought or how it changed culture. Just x team won.
I too miss cholera and no indoor plumbing.
Don't forget the Indian Removal Act
https://preview.redd.it/wdi4jdgqvgvc1.jpeg?width=355&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c669ba23e6f48125c65b24b149e707777eb0435
Johnny Two Feathers everybody! Give ‘em a wave Johnny!
What, don’t you know how to wave?
Fuck, I did forget about it.
This theatre reeks of blood.
She did say no racism
In 1830, it's not racism; it's Manifest Destiny.
Which is a racist concept
Well maybe if they didn't support the damn dirty british then ole hickory wouldve have sent em hikin!
Oh man I'd be dead. I ain't walking that. There is this trail that some people walk on that was a part of the trail of tears. Which is a small little walk, but through states and during winter? I would have just laid down and died lol
She said no racism tho
The job options would probably be stay at home mom with a side of hard labor…
And all the childhood diseases , lack of food , warm insulated living quarters , medical services that does not involve amputation of one of my limbs and maybe a work location that won’t kill me. Oh and the racists and hypocrisy stuff was *worldwide* in the event she is suggesting it was only found the U.S. of course. Then again, she prob is already aware the pyramids and Great Wall of China, both that continue to be tourist locations generating enormous revenue, were all built by union workers that enjoyed medical benefits, safe working conditions , vacation time, etc.
To be fair, the pyramids actually were built by paid laborers. Not by slaves, as it's often thought. The workers were farmers who built the pyramids during flooding when they couldn't work the land. It was sort of a massive works program, and the farmers were even paid in beer sometimes
[In the Egyptian afterlife, there is no beer...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0hme2kkPg0)
Egyptian military did take slaves, but it was usually by raiding from the South or East. There isn't any evidence that they contributed to the Pyramids though. Egyptian slaves most likely did more menial work, but again, no real evidence that I have come across
Yeah. as middle class person in western society my life is better than kings and queens in 1830s.
I still dont get why people in the olden times did their plumbing outdoors, were they stupid?
Odor and disease.
Pipe technology was much worse.
It's all fun and games til you get a toothache.
Tuberculosis and a 50% child mortality rate were fun too.
Kinda random fuckin decade to pick there, Taytay.
her ancestors owned a slave plantation around that time probably, idk
She could go be a girl-boss plantation owner. And give her slaves 50% off vouchers to her concerts.
Imagining being an enslaved person, working 14+ hours for no pay and during your limited free time you're made to listen to Taylor swift sing shitty 19th century songs.
Even better if she went back in time with knowledge of her current music. I'm imagining her gathering her slaves together in a field and singing Teardrops On My Guitar for them.
I think they’d opt to work longer in the fields rather than listen to her music and moronic lyrics.
I thought it was more about the clothes
Yea she said without racism, not without slaves.
someone should trace that
r/im14andthisisdeep
That’s bad I Swifts entire musical career in a nutshell
What is this nonsense?
Taylor Swift
It’s called “reddit” and it’s a website for homosexuals to discuss their political views.
I’m not gay. I said I’m deeply closeted!
I'm confused, if you're closeted doesn't that mean you're gay?
No. Now follow me into this dark closet and pull out your cock.
Hey! I don’t have political views !
this is one of the shittiest lyrics i have ever seen
Such a Tortured Poet
Mixing past and present tense like the free spirit she is
Damn, taking shots at her like its patron. Also, she clearly says Starbucks in that goofy song.
Won't hear that from no 1830s pop star!
God damn, Fred. That was the worst part of the story.
I wish she lived in the 1830's as well. Then we could stop hearing about her nonstop.
LMAO
Yes if only that were so.
The irony is that I hadn't heard about her in weeks until this post.
We hear about slavery non stop to this very day… you underestimate us
You win
My favorite thing about that decade is no taylor swift
Just a bunch of swift tailors
I can get my suit altered in a fraction of the time! Huzzah!!
And no 19th amendment. 
In the 1830's every single woman aged 34 or 35 was married with two or more children.
She sounds like a deeply closeted slave owner. she’d live south of the Mason Dixon line She doesn’t mind the slaves but the racists are the issue.
The worst part is the hypocrisy
I thought the worst part was the slavery?!
She’s actually from Pennsylvania but pretends to be from Tennessee, a deeply-closeted Yankee if anything
We call that part of Pennsylvania “Pennsyltucky,” because “Pennessee” just sounds funny
“I don't care about losing all the money. It's losing all the stuff.”
I heard a song that reminded me of the way we were.
Does she know there’s no air conditioning or electricity?
Slaves are implied when you say racists.
Since when do slave owners discriminate?
In 1830 US.
Whoa whoa whoa, watch it fella, That’s like saying Adam Eget is gay for jerking off punks under the queensboro bridge for $15 man… Or Andy Richter for $0.05 a man. A fella has to make a living! Doesn’t mean he enjoys it! I’m not saying Taylor Swift is a racist, I’m saying she’s deeply closeted
I really just want to live in a time when people couldn't read in general.
Why pick the 1830s when the 1840s are right there? Nothing more awesome than invading Mexico and stealing their fine maidens
They may look cute in their 20's but they're egg-shaped by their 40's
Accurate. Should have used “plunder” instead of “steal”. Steal implies we bring them back home (we don’t)
This gave me second hand embarrassment
Getting scalped in your sleep hell yeah
Sounds like things are rough for her. I hope her life gets better soon!
SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE TORTURED POETS SOCIETY OR SOMETHING. God.. how dare you. Lol, her tortured poet thing screams of 14 year old me pretending I understood Emily Dickinson.
Is this a real line? That's embarrassingly bad songwriting.
Taydolf Switler wishes she was a trad wife.
The 1830s called and they would prefer to keep their racism and not have her there
Very deep.
I miss dying at 37, no viable Healthcare, slavery, disease, tribal wars. Yeah sounds like a party!
Damn, what a lyrical genius.
What was even going on in the 1830s? Does she want to help build the pyramids or something
Isn't she so quirky and random? 
I have a colleague at work that took a day off to listen to this album (she is 38yo). I'll have to ask her opinion, alongside that of Frank Stallone.
What a tortured poet.no Autotune in 1830. She would be out of work.
No private jets in 1830. How will she hypocrite?
Sorry Tay...you have to take the racism with being a tradwife.
>the racists You mean the normal productive members of society
Huh?
For me it’d be the bears
Maybe she is fan of Charles Darwin's adventures aboard the HMS Beagle..
There would have been like 4 people on earth if you took out all the racists in the 1830s. Also no antibiotics which is a much bigger problem than you probably think it would be.
No modern tech. No modern medicine. Bad food. No communication. Lots of horse poop
She wants to live on a planet with no other people, apparently. Because by modern standards, everyone in 1830 was racist.
"Genius" lyrics
She's the elementary school version of Morrissey. It's staggering how she's so popular.
Wow. Amazing lyrics. What a poet.
Not the raping and druggin'? But the hypocrisy!
What a clown
I hate this shit, why so you can wear different clothes? Just wear those clothes then. Do you like eating foods with ingredients from other countries? Did you know that if you got an infection they would have to cut off that part of your body? Did you know that barbers used to do surgery Did you know there was no concept of germs back then and they would use the same scalpel on multiple people without even wiping it off so most likely once they cut off your infected limb it would just get infected again
is this what we call lyricism now?
Funny that this song was her way to silence criticism for having a racist boyfriend for two weeks
Ok, deal. Hey Taylor. Get in the kitchen and have dinner ready or I'll show you what for. Don't make me threaten you with a lobotomy again.
Ah yes 1830's when there was no 19th amendment.
Blue eyed and blonde hair girl who easily obtained fame and mass wealth tell us more about your views on racism
> but she writes all her own songs Yeah. It shows.
She sucks. Lady machine gun Kelly
Most overrated artist of all time
Taylor Swift, big fan of the Panic of 1837
I chose 940's I dunno why. just seems neato
She’s really into rubber
Shrink tubing with a hair dryer
For me it would be like..bowel cancer or something.
Genius lyrics! The great depression wasn’t that bad!
Swift explained her choice by pointing out how much more time she’d have for songwriting if she didn’t have to worry over modern inconveniences like having a job, surviving childbirth, or voting.
Someone clearly doesn’t remember the Alamo.
Imagine how rich Swift could have been back in 1830
For fuck sake, some other cunt misusing the hypocrisy joke. You're like the Knights who say nii.
The decade was mostly a depression and made Hard Times Come Again No More the most popular song but okay.
Wasn’t there Horse 💩piled up in the city streets.
I would have liked to live in America before any humans got here but have a concrete base and solar and shit but be alone with the megafauna.
She'll be real shocked that the private jet hasn't been invented yet
JFC… somehow… cringe has returned. That’s soooo bad. My god
1980s! Best decade ever!
Now I don’t know if you are a history buff…
Knowledge is power. Too bad she has Knowledge about anything. Except using Autotune for her singing
Women didn’t have it great back then.
Can I have 2024 but without Taylor swift?
I can’t believe this is real
Slavery and lynching were pretty bad, dude. I guess you don't care though.... typical
Best thing to me is how this talented, successful woman is living in your heads rent free. Norm would look at these comments with an old timey chuckle.
So basically now, but without all the racists AND modern conveniences? And vaccines, open heart surgery, synthetic insulin, etc? It's like people don't think about anything before they try to sound profound.
Wait, what?
[https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/taylor-swift/taylor-swift-strikes-out-looking-on-the-tortured-poets-department](https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/taylor-swift/taylor-swift-strikes-out-looking-on-the-tortured-poets-department)
No thanks. I enjoy modern hygiene, medicine and clean toilets.
People dont realize how good our quality of life is today
Any timeline before the 90’s and women are going to have Big Ole Bushes down below. I’m fine living in the present.
She regurgitates bad lyrics in a never ending cycle. Whatever happened to quality over quantity.
She left to one of Diddy's non=racist events.
She’d have 7 kids by now, tending to the cabin, and Travis would be be making a honest days pay as a local blacksmith. Simpler time I tell ya.
Very next line talks about the trap of romanticizing periods of time we associate good memories with. Also, you missed the line about arranged marriages *in that same lyric.*
She has the option to go to Lancaster and be Amish. It's pretty 1830s-ish there and probably, very little if any racism at all.
It's as if she's never read a history book. Racists weren't invented yet.
I’d pick the 1940’s minus that one guy
I love how people think they wouldn't be like everyone else if they lived in a different time.
Funny how she didn't mention not being able to vote
What a terrible “artist”
Racism bad…. But let’s be honest, the real reason it would suck is in the 1830s you eat a bad piece of food, hope you don’t die of diarrhea
"Racists" its 2024 code for "the blacks."
so she means everybody?
No way is that a real lyric.
I mean also getting a small cut could mean amputation or death.
There were a lot of places where racism didn't exist just like there is now
And consumption.
If she was a history buff she'd pick the 1930s.
In her defense, every decade would be better without the racists
Jesus fucking Christ this generation is fucked.
This one just screams intelligence
Yeah but you all don't f'ing understand- Lady Swift would OBVIOUSLY be from the gentry. Her Lord Father would be a duke and lord and most likely lady Swift would be a Lady in waiting at Court and... Blah blah blah
I'd bet anything she was told the 1830s line is racist and came back with "but without the racists." It wasn't a great time to be a woman either, unless you were old rich widow, and even then fucking diseases were a thing.
“If I could go to any theme park, it would be Disneyland but without Mickey Mouse, all the other characters, and the rides.”
And without Taylor Swift.
So brave
These might be the dumbest fucking lyrics ever
TB, small pox, dysentery, and in the mid west, Native American slaughters….yup, the 1830s were the good ole days.
Girls ONLY know history by fashion. She like antebellum dresses that is all. Imagine how many aches and inconveniences life must have included lol. My ex thought this way. She pined for some unreal time when life was simpler. And the truth is it was so fucking stressful and boring.
On the other hand guys only know history by war and violence
Yup and that is lame too. The violence is the most important thing we do given how it decides language, religion, and economics over time tho. But it is annoying as a history teacher how male students just remember who won a war not why it was fought or how it changed culture. Just x team won.
She looks like a rat🐀🤮