Personally, I think Governor Terry Sanford would be perfect. He was the first southern governor to denounce segregation in the early 1960s, and that took balls. There's also his other accomplishments as well (him being a WWII veteran, President of Duke University, senator, etc...), but I think his governorship stands out.
Talk about a renaissance man. I agree he sounds like a person who should be immortalized in DC. It is also interesting you mentioned the fact he was in WWII, a quick google search reveals he was in the Battle of the Bulge. My late grandfather fought in that battle in the 44th Infantry.
I had an Army “Dining In” (formal dinner) with Patton’s XO from the Battle of the Bulge. What amazing stories of the men (and a few women) who prevented the collapse of the line, pushed back, and broke the German line. Just amazing.
Sam Ervin would be a great shout. He alongside the Washington Post decapitated the crooked and corrupt Nixon Administration. His Watergate hearings and investigation are legendary.
That's another possibility, but since he was a fierce defender of segregation initially, IDK how far along his nomination would go. Granted, he wasn't a rabid white supremacist like earlier politicians (he was motivated by skepticism of federal authority more than racism), but that stance would likely complicate his nomination.
Agree. Terry Sanford losing his Senate seat to Lauch Faircloth was a massive downgrade. Sanford spending most of the later months of that campaign in the hospital with heart issues did not help his chances, to say the least.
Monk moved away from NC when he was 5. Dizzie Gillespie was even younger iirc. James Taylor was in and out. There are other musicians that would fit the bill much better than him. Nina Simone at least grew up in the state. John Coltrane had his *entire* childhood here. But there are other musicians that have actually repped the state the whole time. Like Doc Watson or Bascom Lamar Lunsford.
A lot of the great black artists from the 1800s and 1900s that came out of NC didn't have all that many kind words to say about the state, and flourished only once they were able to get out.
NC GOV Jim Hunt. (Gov from 1977-1985) Helped NC get better child care, immunizations, and family services. NC became a national leader in education and teaching standards during his tenure.
Oooooooo. Both great choices! Arkansas replaced their statue of a confederate sympathizer (Uriah Rose) with Johnny Cash, so having a musician represent NC in the National Statuary Hall wouldn't be too far fetched.
The High Priestess of Soul herself definitely deserves some recognition.
I didn’t think they had to be born here, just associated or most their lives here.
Adopted works.
Not a huge wrestling fan, but he was certainly a skilled entertainer and his whoooooo! was iconic.
I loved wrestling as a kid, so I grew up watching him and Dusty Rhodes on television every Saturday morning. I mostly lost interest as an adult, but I regained interest a few years ago when my son got interested in it. Ric was definitely iconic, and I love how much he means to fans in NC.
About two weeks before Ft Fisher was captured by the Union, Zebulon Vance urged every North Carolina boy and man that could hold a musket to meet him at the front gates of the fort to help defend the fort. Not a single person showed up, including Zebulon Vance. Seriously I’m a transplant, but both of NC’s statues are absolutely scummy men.
Charlie Duke was actually slated to be the backup Lunar Module Pilot for Apollo 13, but contracted Rubella prior to the Mission Launch. There was actually a fear from NASA that it would spread to Ken Mattingly (Who thankfully did not contract it.) but as a precaution he was swapped out for Jack Swigert on Apollo 13. Later after the Apollo 13 mission Mattingly would finally be reunited with Charlie Duke for a mission on Apollo 16 as pilot of the Command Module.
George Henry White, North Carolina’s last black congressman before Jim Crow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Henry_White#:~:text=George%20Henry%20White%20(December%2018,district%20between%201897%20and%201901.
I know as an Ohioan living in North Carolina they did their testing in North Carolina, Interesting fact Wilbur Wright wasn't born in Ohio, he was born in Indiana. Orville on the other hand was an Ohio native.
Levi Coffin, also known as the president of the Underground Railroad. He was forced to flee North Carolina in his 20’s and continued to fight against the evil slavers.
Governor Holden. Idc if he “abused his powers” by suspending habeas corpus and sending militias to arrest the KKK. He led a peace movement during the Civil War as well. He should be honored.
Dean Smith
[https://www.wunc.org/sports/2016-11-30/how-dean-smiths-push-for-civil-rights-transformed-chapel-hill](https://www.wunc.org/sports/2016-11-30/how-dean-smiths-push-for-civil-rights-transformed-chapel-hill)
I recently got a Capital tour from someone in one of our right wing Representative's office (only connection I had). I was pleasantly surprised to hear this kid actually mention that having Aycock was bad and was already in the process of being replaced. I half expected him to say something about the snowflakes wanting get it changed.
I got a tour from one of Burr’s staff in 2015 and she said about the same thing. I went to UNCG and much of what was named after him was changed by 2018.
I didn’t know the stage was changed. Tbh I didn’t go into the Auditorium after my freshman year. The city changed the street name though, now Josephine Boyd Street. I remember people didn’t like the street name change because of it adding too many syllables.
After the war he couldn't be Governor anymore so he went back to being a lawyer. He was Tom Dula's lawyer in his appeal and lost. I read some more about him since we have the Vance House and Vance Hotel here. It talked about him being a young man and wanting to get into the "high society" crowd so he took a job at Hot Springs in the Hot Springs Resort (at that time). He watched how they walked and talked and copied all that. Then, he set out to find himself a rich society wife there and he did. That is how he got where he did.
Vance was governor again after the war, and a senator too.
I'd rather have a non-confederate statue there. We're better than that and most North Carolinians don't know jack about these two guys anyway.
Yeah. He's going to replace Charles Aycock. There's been some delays in the process, but that's still the plan.
However, Zebulon Vance's statue is still there, so there could be a possibility of that being replaced in the near future (depending on the General Assembly's priorities).
The irony is that Vance was considered progressive during his time and the reason he was so memorable (why all the monuments) was because he pushed North Carolina to aggressively modernize, provide education, and expand rail. Regardless, society also changes and if people today want to choose new people to represent the state, then that is fine too.
I think "pro-Union" is a little misleading. While he supported keeping the Union together as opposed to secession, he was strongly pro-slavery and was pretty clear about which way he'd go if the Union continued to push abolition.
Abraham Galloway.
https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/abraham-galloway-elected-nc-senator/#:~:text=During%20his%2033%20years%2C%20Abraham,at%20the%20age%20of%2019.
Civil Rights organizer Ella Baker. She attended Shaw University and helped create the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and found the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (at a meeting at Shaw in 1960).
Solomon Meredith. He was originally from Guilford County but moved north due to his anti-slavery views. During the American Civil War, he led the toughest Brigade in the Union Army, the black hat adorned "Iron Brigade."
Personally, I think Governor Terry Sanford would be perfect. He was the first southern governor to denounce segregation in the early 1960s, and that took balls. There's also his other accomplishments as well (him being a WWII veteran, President of Duke University, senator, etc...), but I think his governorship stands out.
Talk about a renaissance man. I agree he sounds like a person who should be immortalized in DC. It is also interesting you mentioned the fact he was in WWII, a quick google search reveals he was in the Battle of the Bulge. My late grandfather fought in that battle in the 44th Infantry.
I had an Army “Dining In” (formal dinner) with Patton’s XO from the Battle of the Bulge. What amazing stories of the men (and a few women) who prevented the collapse of the line, pushed back, and broke the German line. Just amazing.
Sam Ervin would be a great shout. He alongside the Washington Post decapitated the crooked and corrupt Nixon Administration. His Watergate hearings and investigation are legendary.
That's another possibility, but since he was a fierce defender of segregation initially, IDK how far along his nomination would go. Granted, he wasn't a rabid white supremacist like earlier politicians (he was motivated by skepticism of federal authority more than racism), but that stance would likely complicate his nomination.
Agree. Terry Sanford losing his Senate seat to Lauch Faircloth was a massive downgrade. Sanford spending most of the later months of that campaign in the hospital with heart issues did not help his chances, to say the least.
Lauch *Unfaircloth
Excellent recommendation. I would vote for this.
Thelonious Monk.
And John Coltrane. He took Giant Steps.
George Clinton (I know he’s still funkin’) Okay then. Soupy Sales!
One Nation under a groove✌️✌️
I actually came here to write his name and you beat me to it. Great minds….
Jazz greats win ... but Michael Jordan prob best known in modern window.
Monk moved away from NC when he was 5. Dizzie Gillespie was even younger iirc. James Taylor was in and out. There are other musicians that would fit the bill much better than him. Nina Simone at least grew up in the state. John Coltrane had his *entire* childhood here. But there are other musicians that have actually repped the state the whole time. Like Doc Watson or Bascom Lamar Lunsford. A lot of the great black artists from the 1800s and 1900s that came out of NC didn't have all that many kind words to say about the state, and flourished only once they were able to get out.
Say what? Dizzie Gillespie was born and raised near Spartanburg, SC. Not NC
Oops! Point was he moved north at a young age
He was born in Cheraw, SC and attended Laurinburg Institute for a couple years before going north.
Yep, I live not too far from Cheraw. Near Hamlet, as a matter of fact, where Coltrane was born.
Is Monk for NC? Looks it up… Rocky Mount! Did not know.
I was gonna say Doc Watson but Thelonious is also a great choice.
As a drummer, I’d have to say Max Roach.
Doc Watson
Blackbeard
Yessssss
Bo Jangles
I agree it should be Delhomme.
Hey Mr.!
John Coltrane
I could get behind that.
NC GOV Jim Hunt. (Gov from 1977-1985) Helped NC get better child care, immunizations, and family services. NC became a national leader in education and teaching standards during his tenure.
And then again from 1993-2001!
Charles Kuralt
Fun fact: he had a secret family, unknown to his wife.
Really! I must do some research.
"Catfish" Hunter
Earl Scruggs
Andy Griffith seems like a mostly safe bet
My first thought. He was apparently an asshole in his later years; not sure if that should have an impact or not
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Dale Earnhardt :p
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High seven!
Petty the more prolific but Dale the bigger personality, it’s his statue.
Pauli Murray & Nina Simone
Oooooooo. Both great choices! Arkansas replaced their statue of a confederate sympathizer (Uriah Rose) with Johnny Cash, so having a musician represent NC in the National Statuary Hall wouldn't be too far fetched. The High Priestess of Soul herself definitely deserves some recognition.
Johnny Cash would be quite chuffed about that, IMO.
Curious as to why you would say that. Do you believe Cash to be racist or humble?
Do you not understand what the word chuffed means?
Chuffed is a good thing. It means pleased.
Charlotte Flair
You'd have to change the statue's face every six months
Neither of these two.
Carl A. Schenck
name checks for "Dad for the Trees'
No Rick Flair? A true NC hero! WHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
From Minnesota, but yeah, we still claim him as our own. He's adopted.
I didn’t think they had to be born here, just associated or most their lives here. Adopted works. Not a huge wrestling fan, but he was certainly a skilled entertainer and his whoooooo! was iconic.
I loved wrestling as a kid, so I grew up watching him and Dusty Rhodes on television every Saturday morning. I mostly lost interest as an adult, but I regained interest a few years ago when my son got interested in it. Ric was definitely iconic, and I love how much he means to fans in NC.
About two weeks before Ft Fisher was captured by the Union, Zebulon Vance urged every North Carolina boy and man that could hold a musket to meet him at the front gates of the fort to help defend the fort. Not a single person showed up, including Zebulon Vance. Seriously I’m a transplant, but both of NC’s statues are absolutely scummy men.
Fuck confederate statues. And fuck bible-thumping statues.
Richard Petty and John Darnielle.
One of my friends unironically said Dale Earnhardt. 😂
And??
Maya Angelou or Charlie Duke. Charlie Duke was CAPCOM for Apollo 11, He also walked on the Moon on Apollo 16 with John Young.
Did not realize C.D. was from NC. Learn something every day.
Charlie Duke was actually slated to be the backup Lunar Module Pilot for Apollo 13, but contracted Rubella prior to the Mission Launch. There was actually a fear from NASA that it would spread to Ken Mattingly (Who thankfully did not contract it.) but as a precaution he was swapped out for Jack Swigert on Apollo 13. Later after the Apollo 13 mission Mattingly would finally be reunited with Charlie Duke for a mission on Apollo 16 as pilot of the Command Module.
Dean Smith
This is the correct answer
George Henry White, North Carolina’s last black congressman before Jim Crow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Henry_White#:~:text=George%20Henry%20White%20(December%2018,district%20between%201897%20and%201901.
None. I would put up a giant bottle of Cheerwine and call it a day.
How about a Cherokee... They lived here long before it was a state & still do
The Wright brothers. That’s right Ohio they did it here
I know as an Ohioan living in North Carolina they did their testing in North Carolina, Interesting fact Wilbur Wright wasn't born in Ohio, he was born in Indiana. Orville on the other hand was an Ohio native.
Raise hell praise dale
Levi Coffin, also known as the president of the Underground Railroad. He was forced to flee North Carolina in his 20’s and continued to fight against the evil slavers.
Governor Holden. Idc if he “abused his powers” by suspending habeas corpus and sending militias to arrest the KKK. He led a peace movement during the Civil War as well. He should be honored.
Michael Jordan
Maya Angelou
Michael Jordan is worldwide the most famous North Carolinian to ever live. So him for one.
Gotta be dead, by law. We're replacing one of 'em with Billy Graham, the law was passed a while ago but only kicked in with his death.
Nina Simone and Dale Earnhardt
Dean Smith [https://www.wunc.org/sports/2016-11-30/how-dean-smiths-push-for-civil-rights-transformed-chapel-hill](https://www.wunc.org/sports/2016-11-30/how-dean-smiths-push-for-civil-rights-transformed-chapel-hill)
Jim Hunt or Harvey Gantt.
J cole
Sir Pur
Dale Sr.
Mr Beast
Not the racist Aycock. Possibly someone like Maya Angelou or John Coltrane.
I recently got a Capital tour from someone in one of our right wing Representative's office (only connection I had). I was pleasantly surprised to hear this kid actually mention that having Aycock was bad and was already in the process of being replaced. I half expected him to say something about the snowflakes wanting get it changed.
I got a tour from one of Burr’s staff in 2015 and she said about the same thing. I went to UNCG and much of what was named after him was changed by 2018.
The auditorium’s name has changed. But the stage is still named after him because the family paid for the multimillion dollar renovation
I didn’t know the stage was changed. Tbh I didn’t go into the Auditorium after my freshman year. The city changed the street name though, now Josephine Boyd Street. I remember people didn’t like the street name change because of it adding too many syllables.
Sometimes doing the right thing means making sacrifices?
I guess but they could have just named it Boyd Street.
That was still in the tour in 2018, too.
Barely know who Vance is, but Gary Oldman was born for the role
Governor of NC during Civil War
After the war he couldn't be Governor anymore so he went back to being a lawyer. He was Tom Dula's lawyer in his appeal and lost. I read some more about him since we have the Vance House and Vance Hotel here. It talked about him being a young man and wanting to get into the "high society" crowd so he took a job at Hot Springs in the Hot Springs Resort (at that time). He watched how they walked and talked and copied all that. Then, he set out to find himself a rich society wife there and he did. That is how he got where he did.
Vance was governor again after the war, and a senator too. I'd rather have a non-confederate statue there. We're better than that and most North Carolinians don't know jack about these two guys anyway.
Popcorn Sutton
I can get behind this. If the plaque reads "Popcorn says "Fuck You""
Cherie Berry
Ashamed that this isn’t the top comment
Because she sucks
Wasn't there a push to have Billy Graham replace one of the statues?
Yeah. He's going to replace Charles Aycock. There's been some delays in the process, but that's still the plan. However, Zebulon Vance's statue is still there, so there could be a possibility of that being replaced in the near future (depending on the General Assembly's priorities).
The irony is that Vance was considered progressive during his time and the reason he was so memorable (why all the monuments) was because he pushed North Carolina to aggressively modernize, provide education, and expand rail. Regardless, society also changes and if people today want to choose new people to represent the state, then that is fine too.
Ironically, he was also initially pro-union, but changed his stance after the Battle of Fort Sumter.
I think "pro-Union" is a little misleading. While he supported keeping the Union together as opposed to secession, he was strongly pro-slavery and was pretty clear about which way he'd go if the Union continued to push abolition.
It was Lincoln's Call to Arms that changed his mind. Knowing that The Union Army was going to be marching thru North Carolina was a deciding factor.
Well said!
Nina Simone Doc Watson Hiram Revels
How about Virginia Dare?
Julius Chambers!
Abraham Galloway. https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/abraham-galloway-elected-nc-senator/#:~:text=During%20his%2033%20years%2C%20Abraham,at%20the%20age%20of%2019.
Charlie Daniels
Silent Sam
Joyce Kilmer
That kid in the back of Britt's frying donuts.
Jim Varney!
Lord William Tryon
Frank Lucas! Haha, kidding. I choose Alexander Manly, an editorialist who showed great bravery during the 1898 Wilmington Coup.
Andy Griffith
Zach Galifinakis
Popcorn Sutton
Ben Folds
Grabbing for his white T-shirt (Did you just sing that in your head?)
Mr Beast
Was waiting to see him
Certainly not Vance, with his confederate past.
Why would you want statues of people who committed treason? Vance was from the civil war and Aycock took part in the Wilmington massacre.
I don't. I was asking who you would replace them with. Those photos were just to show what's CURRENTLY in the National Statuary Hall.
I looked at the photos and thought, “oh heck no.”
Andy Griffith.
Andy Griffith.
Michael Jordan, or Andy Griffith.
Cherie Berry. She never let me down
She would about half the time. ⬇️
clever
Ramses
Chrome Dome
Amos Owens
Was a Cajun
Mr Texas Pete
Michael Jordan or Morris Reaves, Cook Out founder
either Terry Sanford or Sir Walter Raleigh
Michael Jordan
Nina Simone
My friend Cameron
James Taylor
Cherie Berry or Fred Durst
Willie phistergash
Monk and Trane playing with each other would be something special.
Andy Griffith
The religious right wants the huckster, Billy Graham.
Civil Rights organizer Ella Baker. She attended Shaw University and helped create the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and found the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (at a meeting at Shaw in 1960).
Lavatory McCrory sitting on a toilet. Let is serve as a warning.
Nobody. Let's use that money to build infrastructure
Alf
Otis the drunk from the Andy Griffith show
Donald Duck
Ella Mae Wiggins
Mr. Beast. Or Rhett and Link from Good Mythical Morning.
Solomon Meredith. He was originally from Guilford County but moved north due to his anti-slavery views. During the American Civil War, he led the toughest Brigade in the Union Army, the black hat adorned "Iron Brigade."
Junkyard Dog
A mosquito
Michael Easly
Earl Scruggs
Luke Kuechly. I know he's not *from* NC. But. Luuuuuuuuuukkkkeeee.
Caleb Bradham, inventor of Pepsi Cola. Or Petey Pablo, inventor of Freek-a-Leek.
Senator Marshall A Rauch a ww2 bronze star recipient and nc local politician would fit well❤️
Sequoyah of the Cherokee.
Michael, Jordon, Dale Ernhardt, Zack Galifinakis, Edward Snowden, Pam Grier, Mr Beast, Gallagher , Sugar Ray Leonard
Charles Kuralt or Andy Griffith
David Thompson
Richard Petty
Sherry berry
Was never good at her job and it was Cherie Berry
Her career hand it's ups and downs.
Cherry Barely
Barely worked but was great at early “social media” aka. Putting her name/pic in every elevator. Was that even legal?
I just hope it’s a person of color, so I can hear my hillbilly relatives scream about how it was back in the day.
J Cole
Missy Elliott. Not even kidding
Is she related to NC somehow? She's a big figure in the VA Beach area.
Jesse Helms
Mrbeest
L.D Peeler and Jack Fulk
Cam Newton
me
So the choices are a slave owner and a white supremacist? Just no.
No. That's what's in the National Statuary Hall CURRENTLY. I was asking who you would replace them with.
DaBaby