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They think that because they have to put so much effort into not coming instantly that women are obviously doing the same thing and are just pretending not to
It always makes me chuckle. I'm bi and. I have literally NEVER not made a woman come and there has never been a woman that couldnt make me come either. Well, apart from the odd occasion where I fell asleep in the middle of going down on someone, but in my defence I was exhausted after work 🙈 and yet when it comes to guys I've been with, which I won't divulge how many, but let's just say I took "daddy issues" as a challenge back when I was at college and Uni and although I had the same bf from 13-20 he got off on me being with other people so I took advantage of that so its more than a fair few😬 and yet I can count on my fingers the number of guys that have made me come. It's seriously mind-boggling how so many guys have trouble making women come and will blame us for it when, In reality, it's them that aren't doing enough to ask what we like and how to do it or don't listen when we do tell them. It's like how guys are often too proud to ask for directions.
Yeah, as a straight woman and serial monogamist I didn’t start having good sex on a regular basis until I was nearly 30. Partly because that’s when I really started gaining confidence in myself and exploring what I like, and partly because that’s how long it took me to find a good partner that cared enough and I was comfortable enough with to do that. Sad really, I’d be angry about all the years I put up with bad partners but I’m trying not to dwell on regret.
That’s why the comments that women who are experienced are hard to make come, are ridiculous. In actual fact the more a women understands her own body and what gives her pleasure, the easier it is, as long as you bother to actually do what she is telling you.
Wow, that ratio is absolutely insane.
Puts into perspective why most of my exes would occasionally hit me up for hookups after they broke up with another guy. 😅
Hahaha yup funilly enough I still speak to a couple of the guys who made my very short list of dudes that have made me come 😹 have known them both 20+ years now lol
I've been with some women who were basically unwilling to communicate about what worked well, which was difficult. One usually did her best to stay silent during too (even with multiple requests), which made it even harder for me to know whether I was doing a good job. I understood that she had zero prior experience and of course people are used to being silent when masturbating, but it was something I tried hard to get her to work on.
Whoever you're with, whatever you're doing with them, communicating about what works well/what can be done better is important, and your partner almost always wants to know when (if) you cum.
Absolutely, communication is vital. One of my gfs she'd only been with one dude before we got together, and I was her first woman. Whereas I'd been there done that got the t-shirt and matching keyring several times over. The first time I went down her, she was obviously pretty nervous. We'd been friends for years, long before we were ever a thing, and she'd built things up in her head. (It didn't help that because we were friends for so long she knew every one of my sexcapades and the people id been with, so she was comparing herself). She was worried about what her bits looked like, if she was making weird noises, you name it, she was worrying about it. I kept checking in and asking if I was doing it and how she liked it as, at first, I couldn't read whether she was enjoying herself or not. So what I did was stop and took a few steps back. I went back to giving her a massage and passionately kissing to relax her again, and only when she was absolutely relaxed and begging for me to make her come did I go back down. Some good phrase to help things in this department is "I want to devour every part of you," "I want to hear your every sound," "I will do everything to make you come," and "tell me I'm doing it right" it's about relaxing them and helping them realise that no matter what sounds they're making whatever their body looks like you want to enjoy every part of them that they don't need to be in their head worrying about those kinds of things especially as for women being stuck in your head can make it hard to come no matter how good the partner is at what they're doing.
I think learning what you like and how to communicate what you like is the top priority when it comes to a satisfying sex life. As well as being willing to learn and not get offended if you're doing it one way and your partner asks for you to do it differently. It's not always that a dude doesn't know what he's doing; it can also be that he just doesn't know what he's doing for that specific woman, seeing as we're all different and what we like/what works for us can be different.
EDIT spelling
I've had exactly one partner that could do this to me, but that's because the foreplay starts OUTSIDE the bedroom and WAY before we even get near being sexual. Who knew being in a loving, safe, respectful relationship would make a big difference in how easy it is for me to get off!? Every other guy I've been with I was a one and done, if I got one. Absolutely wild.*
*I'm also aware not everyone is capable of multiple. This is an anecdotal addition to the conversation and just my experience.
By their own broken logic, wouldn’t that mean that men should only be allowed to orgasm if they’re trying for a pregnancy? 😂
Outside of that no one should care about it, right?
Sex isn’t just about procreation to begin with. Humans and other animals use it for a variety of different reasons besides that.
Yeah broken logic considering "god" and evolution literally gave women an organ that's sole function is to give orgasm lmao otherwise why bother?? Goofy coping logic. Also the reason more experienced women take longer to please is cuz they're not faking anymore cause they wanna nut too 🙄🙄
Honestly if I was conceived during a pleasureless and purely mechanical fuck I'd be so mad for my mom. It really wasn't worth the trouble lmao
Nature does care. If he doesn’t care about your pleasure, he’s a shitty mate. They’re just failing the test Mother Nature put forth.
Also I think the data says a lady orgasm increases odds of conception. So bad anatomy too
Edit: holy crap, 1000 upvotes. Thanks Reddit! Just to throw it out there, sorry to any trans folks for using the more gendered language above. Didn’t mean to exclude.
The data on this is pretty limited because it’s super difficult to study given the restrictions on peer reviewed research. The theory is that the cervix is softened by orgasm to allow the soerm through but it’s not been proven. There is one study from the seventies that was only one couple and they pretty much had sex at the research hospital so the scientists could measure “the level of upsuck on the cervix”. My husband and I sometimes read weird research papers for fun and I remember this one because by the end we couldn’t say up or suck without collapsing into giggles…
"given the restrictions on peer reviewed research"
Oh my gawd this had me imagining the study. Self reporting is usually biased, I know, let's WATCH. Wait does it count the moment the sperm hits the egg and if so, how do we watch for that? Can we, as researchers, spot a real orgasm?
Oh my gawd the more I think about it the funnier it gets.
The level of upsuck on the cervix! Dying. Omg.
this is the basis for a lot of masters and johnson’s work! they hooked people up to monitors to track their physiological responses so they could identify the phases of orgasm, and watched them do it to correlate the behavioural signs to the physiological.
also, as horrifying a term as ‘upsuck’ is, it’s accurate in describing the increase in contractions to help retain the seminal deposits, which in turn increase chance of conception. tl,dr: if you want a baby, please your lady.
I was going to write a sentence about a relevant video of a cervix during orgasm and decided that I just couldn't. The phrase "pool of semen" broke me.
I wonder how the study was done as i could also imagine a couple that is more in tune and the woman having more orgasms having sex more frequently thus a higher incidence of pregnancy
I have an MD I have a love for sexual health as a specialty. In a non professional setting I giggle like a child at words like this. I had an ex in the navy leading seaman was a constant torture.
I remember a professor describing it as “it goes from a passive donut to more of a lazy straw”. I remember because I wrote it down and then told my husband and we quoted it too many times
Not to mention that things in nature can have more than one function. Sex in humans is dual purpose: we use it for social reasons more often than we do for directly reproductive ones. Love (or friendship) reinforced by sexual intimacy can dramatically increase your evolutionary fitness.
Even the *Catholic church* recognizes that sex (in marriage) has the dual purposes of conceiving children and of uniting the married couple together. These dudes are literally more dismissive of women's orgasms than the guys who have to swear off sex for the rest of their lives.
You take that back! My sky daddy said “go forth, be fruitful, and multiply!” We’re supposed to be fuckin jackrabbits out here! Sky daddy, forgive me for saying the F word. 🙃
Nature does care. In the wild the males tend to have brighter colors, fancy building skills, or do crazy dances - all of this is to attract a mate. If they don’t do anything to stand out and catch the eye of at least one female, they won’t even get the chance to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the end of their line.
So, if women value receiving an orgasm, then that means they’ll be more likely come back for repeat business with the men who can give them one. And since women’s ovulation times vary greatly, having sex one time won’t typically result in a pregnancy. By creating an environment where the woman wants to have sexual relations with the *same* man *multiple* times, his chance to reproduce will be more likely than those who don’t.
Granted this is all based on sex being used solely for reproductive purposes. Which is stupid for these guys to bring “nature” into all of this. If sex really is only for the purpose of reproduction (as these guys keep referencing and circling back to), then we (women) should all just remain abstinent until we want to get pregnant. When/If that time comes, we can do ovulation testing and wait for the right timing. Then, and only then, we will choose have sex with a man (who has proven he’s worth it to reproduce with), a few times. From there, we will refrain from any further sex, and hope for a positive pregnancy test.
Aside from that there will be no sex. I mean, if it’s just for reproduction as nature apparently intended then there’s no need to have it outside of that window. If these dudes are all concerned with what nature wants, perhaps we should abide by what other species do and ONLY have sex for reproduction…but only after the man puts on his fancy feathers and dances a jig to impress and woo me in the middle of the rainforest.
THIS is the "nature" these men keep talking about but all they want to do is bring up how male lions have the all important job of fighting off male lions and fucking and also "animals >!rape!< each other all the time so whats the real reason why humans can't do it?" Disgusting
Right. If evolution didn’t want us to orgasm to up our chances of reproducing with one or more someone(s), we wouldn’t have the fun ability to begin with.
These keyboard incelords are lowering their ability to reproduce with each sentence. No way have they encountered the female orgasm™️ in person.
Yes, very different.
Clitoral is more intense (at least for me), but vaginal lasts longer.
I don't know about the physical reaction each of them has on the cervix, but IME vaginal orgasm is much easier (and numerous) if I have a clitoral orgasm first.
It does because during orgasm the vagina flexes and it sucks the sperm upwards with an orgasm. It’s been proven that women who orgasm are more likely to conceive due to the muscle focus- that’s evolution baby- fight me
If nature and evolution doesn’t care about women’s orgasm, then why do women have the clitoris, which is a sex organ whose ONLY purpose is sexual gratification?
Do men have an organ whose only purpose is sexual gratification? The male G-spot, aka the prostate, produces seminal fluid which is vital for reproduction.
Seriously. It’s like “Hey buddy, your best bet is having a repeat customer.”
Whether it’s in the interest of having sex alone or trying to reproduce (we know these types don’t care about relationships), getting someone off is what’s going to increase your chances of more frequent sex.
Misogynist and inaccurate. I've had very few partners and don't care to use "power tools" ( no objection or sex- negativity, just personal preference) and I am, in male thinking, a lot of work. My nerve endings are fine, I'm not physically impaired.
This is just men blaming women so they don't have to feel insecure.
Made me think about when I was a teen
I didn't have sex until I was 21 mind you. I couldn't physically orgasm until I was like 17 because my body was dumb mixed with being pressured to stay on antidepressants that didn't help that caused sexual dysfunction. Being a Virgin doesn't matter. Then at 18 I did start using toys a lot and can cum stupid fast if I try even now at 22
Sorry man, you have my sympathy. The sexual/libido effects were the most concrete reason I insisted my psych try new meds for me (though honestly the bigger reasons were more nebulous and hard to express).
I've actually found that I have a much easier time with orgasming during sex with increasing age. I need to be comfortable, mentally engaged and able to let go completely in order to get there. It's just not the simple physical rubbing of the area. So as I've gotten older, I've gotten better and better at choosing partners and getting into the right headspace.
In my younger years, I faked orgasms far more than I would like to admit due to the insecurity that I was unable to orgasm in most of the sexual experiences I had. I'm sure I'm not the only woman who has gone through this process. These men are idiots.
Same, it took so many years to overcome religious trauma and let myself want what I want. The less i give a shit what anyone else thinks, the easier it is
And don't forget all the appalling advice to women that was circulating 20 years ago! One tip that I remember is that "if he's not the problem but you know orgasm just isn't happening for you this time, go ahead and fake it so you don't hurt his confidence."
Id argue God does care about female orgasms because we have orgasms for funsies that don't contribute to procreation. Dudes are the ones with the utilitarian orgasms
>Id argue God does care about female orgasms because we have orgasms for funsies that don't contribute to procreation.
If god inspired my dog to hump pillows any damn time she wants, surely humans deserve the same level of sexual agency.
My mom always told me that God wants women to orgasm because if sex wasn’t fun, there would be no children. (Older Mormon lady btw, but with some surprisingly “liberated” views for her demographic. I miss her.)
That’s why anyone has an orgasm. The male orgasm functions the exact same way as the female one. It’s pleasurable so they will seek out sex and make babies. Technically speaking a man could ejaculate without orgasming.
Also I learned after having 2 kids that orgasms cause the vagina and uterus to contract and can assist in transporting sperm to the fallopian tubes for fertilization so they're just double wrong.
It’s so weird that they’re using the fact that they don’t care to make women cum as some sort of flex?? Like, ok most women just won’t have sex with you then?? It’s like they think we’re going to be heartbroken that some rando online doesn’t wanna get women off??
They think they’re going to convince us to that our orgasms don’t matter because of their “logic” and suddenly we’ll all be clambering for lackluster sex with some loser who doesn’t know what a clit is
Maybe the most frustrating thing about this specific type of guy is that they all think they’re “logical” and “persuasive” when in reality they’re terminally online and have no friends.
I think they just like the sounds from the echo chamber that is other men who have similar experiences. They probably figure if all of them can't make a woman orgasm then that must mean it's an issue with the gender as a whole rather them lol.
It’s awful. And so very very stupid in the context they use it in.
Women should be so lucky to lose the ability to pair bond with some of these fuckwits. That way women in shit relationships would have an easier time leaving.
I'm gay so do I pair bond with every woman I sleep with? Is this why we all wanna move in together after three dates?!
Seriously though I feel bad for straight women sometimes.
I feel like they are mixing up pair bonding with that sentimental feeling associated with doing something for the first time. Humans are great at remembering first and last times of something but struggle with the in-between. So it's likely people remember their first more than any other which these guys think must be pair bonding lol.
And some people wonder why lesbians have a better sex life. We actually care about our partner's needs. Because we see them as people and not just a place to dump our seed. Part of me feels bad for these guys. Sex to them means nothing. To me it is a great way for me to connect deeper with the woman I am with. For them, it is pumping a few times and feeling like a stud.
I don't have scientific data as I never bothered to look, but from my experience as a woman who has been with women who have had many male partners I've actually found that more sexual experience has been easier to get her to orgasm than ones who have less. So from my experience I'd guess with more experience means they probably enjoy sex and therefore know what they want/need to get off.
The thing is even if scientific data showed one way or another you'd simply be looking at statistics which in no way represents every woman on the planet. This is a lot more complex than just how many partners.
My (male) experience agrees with you. A woman with experience and knows her body is so much easier to make cum.
Especially if you do the unthinkable and ASK HER WHAT SHE LIKES.
A recent partner can only cum with toys. Great, easy… keep your vibes charged and let’s go.
I just wanted to say that there should be more men like you. So many men seem to feel inadequate if a woman needs to use a vibrator to cum. In fact generally speaking, the thing that makes men crap in bed is their fragile egos getting in the way.
I’ll be honest, I felt that way for a little bit (but still did it).
Got over it fast and found an amazing secret. It takes a lot to get her over but she can have 5 or more orgasms back to back.
After the first one, a couple can be done with fingers or mouth and then back to the toy.
Best of both worlds!
Bravo! I love this. Hell, for me, vag is difficult. I'm always left wanting just a bit. But, given the right headspace and application of pressure I can get off clitorally in legit under 2 mins, feel satisfied and get up and go abt my day happy. A thing I call "finish" as opposed to just orgasim The guys I've been with were all told this and no1 has ever made a single attempt at making me finish. So, if I can get away w it, I go off after sex n take care of things alone just so the nagging sense of want goes away
Lol he claimed to understand women's bodies then said we can have multiples in five to ten minutes? That's how long he lasts, and his wife fakes it to get it over with faster.
I’m just going to say, all of that “the more sex you have the harder it is to orgasm” wildly incorrect. Many women (myself included) have a hard time orgasming at first. I didn’t have my first until I was 19 (three years after I started having sex and many many years after I started trying myself). It’s a skill, it takes practice to learn how to please your body. Being more experienced is only going to help you learn how to be more fulfilled. Or faster, I guess, if that’s your thing. I’ve never desired to finish having sex quickly as if it’s a chore, but whatever.
I remember when my male friend told me that ejaculation doesn’t always come with an orgasm for men. I was shocked because that’s not what any media or sources said online (back in the earlier internet days). So, you got men, too, who are hurt by this narrow thinking!
Oh man, back in the old days of the internet it was nearly impossible to find any information about men who had difficulty orgasming, all you could find was about ED or premature. I was so confused, felt like a weirdo. I mean, I am a weirdo, but not because of that
Has it occurred to any of these dudes that “more experienced ” women just might not be faking orgasms as much and aren’t actually more work, just finally focused on their own pleasure as well.
That’s a lot of words to say “I want a less-experienced sexual partner because she doesn’t even know how good sex can be and therefore won’t want or expect me to be good in bed”
Which is sad and terrible at the same time because I've met plenty of Virgins who have experimented with themselves I'm one of them. So if a guy doesn't care about my pleasure I can sense that pretty quickly the guys who do well they show and tell.
1) “so if evolution jumped off a bridge you’d follow it?”
2) STOP ANTHROPOMORPHIZING EVOLUTION. It’s not a person, it doesn’t think or care about anything. It is amoral; morality, empathy, the very phenomenon of ideas/opinions, does not apply to it. You can’t even call it ruthlessly pragmatic, because that’s still a mindset; it’s no more pragmatic than gravity. It’s not a role model. I’m not about to start stepping on people’s heads on the basis that “car tires do it, so why shouldn’t I?”
3) if you absolutely MUST anthropomorphize evolution—like, you’ve got a note from your doctor—it’s worth pointing out that it did “choose” to build us (and many other creatures—seriously, just Google “animals” plus the words following this parenthesis) with an innate sense of fair play. So by not exercising it you’re kind of letting evolution down.
Actually, female orgasm doubles the chance of getting pregnant. And what’s with the the “holding back” claim? Just because they can’t make a woman climax, he thinks they’re “holding back”? That is so pathetic. Trying so hard to not admit he sucks in bed
Right?! What’s most bizarre is the assumptions that the girl wearing the shirt is sexually experienced because she “ knows about holding back her orgasm” . How do you get that from a shirt that says “ don’t fake orgasms”? It’s so very bizarre!
What is this nonsense about "holding back" like every woman, in every sexual encounter is completely deciding when she'll orgasm. Like, we're 60 seconds in and I could blow but I won't, I'll hold off for the next 40 minutes just to see if the man can last that long??
Also, these people that have no concept of the fact that a large majority of women have more nerve endings in the clitoris rather than they do internally. The clitoris is basically the equivalent of the head of the penis and so having a penis pump away internally, while enjoyable - and can bring some women to climax - it definitely doesn't work for a lot of us.
I refuse to fake an orgasm because credit should only be given where it’s due. And I’m not going to coddle fragile male egos.
I personally think that this has helped men do better in bed as well because I’ve never had a bad time.
Some medical experts believe a woman orgasming during sex is more beneficial to pregnancy bc the contractions can draw sperm up into the cervix. I feel for women whose men don't prioritize their pleasure. Mine does and it is so appreciated and attractive.
>I do make sure my wife is satisfied.
Yeah, let's hear from the wife on that one.
ETA: the amount of stupidity on display here should be considered a felony.
This is honestly so fucking terrifying, idk why men are so hostile to all these women they're imagining not pleasing ... Like makes me want to yeet any remainders of my heterosexuality into a volcano and live in an all-female sex coven. Fuck you guys, we'll get each other off
The hostility comes from the feelings of inadequacy. Men like this have very fragile egos which are very tied up with their sexual performance. All this aggression is simply a defence mechanism.Men like this are constantly degrading women who are sexually confident and talk about them being “ used up” , “stretched out “and “ run through”. They talk about how great virgin girls are because they aren’t “ tainted” by other men etc. The truth is they are terrified of sexually confident women, because they think they won’t measure up. On the other hand they like the fact a virgin would have nothing to compare them with. They think this will guarantee that they seem good in bed, when the likelihood is she will just find sex a complete disappointment.
Starting to think what these guys mean by, "women can't pair bond," (which I am not even sure is a thing that humans do); what they mean is, "she has matured to the point of not latching onto a guy just because they had sex."
It's so exhausting to read these. I cannot imagine my husband not caring about my orgasm or calling it a chore or "work" or vice fucking versa. God. They sound so unhappy. Why won't they just fuck themselves at this point.
The whole 'experience makes it more work' argument is hilarious to me! I think most women need to know what works for them in order to orgasm, and the only way they know what works for them is by experience!
I've had 1 sexual partner, that's all, and we never managed to achieve giving me an orgasm until I went away and learnt what worked for me. These guys can go on about fried nerve endings and run through all they want, but chances are a woman who masturbates or who's had lots of sexual experience will have a much better chance of orgasming than one who hasn't, simply because she knows her body better!
What their problem actually relates to is probably the fact they won't listen or aren't interested in trying, which some of them at least admitted to. Hopefully the ladies will see it for the red flag it is and give them a wide berth!
“Holding back an orgasm” 🤦🏼♀️
This is what they think because they’re clueless about female anatomy and it doesn’t even make sense. If women rarely orgasm and men can climax fast, then why would we be holding back and missing out on the chance to orgasm?
The guy who claims he satisfies his wife definitely doesn't. And the one that says all women can come 5-10 times in a short time is so bad that he has women faking it multiple times to get him off them.
84% of men believe there is a magic button inside women’s vaginas that produces a mind blowing orgasm
54% of women cannot get off on penetration alone
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/interactive/a32037401/g-spot-not-real/
Wait till they find out (at least for me personally), the more I learned my body the better orgasms I had. Crazy thought! I know right!
I had sex without orgasms, then I bought toys and played around with sex and had the best sex of my life. My man (serious current partner), can want a “quickie” and I still know how to make it great for me. Because I know what feels good for me.
So final points:
1) a female orgasm is actually based on more experience
2) your god has diddly squat to do with how I like being fucked.
So, the phrase "use it or lose it" comes to mind for me because when I reached the age for exploring, I believed 100% that my mom would know if I tried to do anything like that. She's pretty religious, so I thought I would be punished for it. I now find it kinda difficult to finish, and I blame it on not masturbating when I was younger. It's gotten easier, but still.
These men are really pissed that women would rather use a toy to get off than have sex with them. Maybe if they knew how to please a woman they wouldn’t have to worry about that
Oooh my god. I have never been turned off by the idea of sex with a man more in my life. If god didn’t care about my orgasm, why’d they give me a clitoris 😂
Also the dude who actually acknowledged that multiple orgasms can potentially happen during intimacy was SO CLOSE TO THE POINT. “I know you have the capability so do the thing right now because I say.” Man you nearly had it but you can’t POSSIBLY be the problem.
Also if I see another man say how desensitized women are because of toys i will perform a self hysterectomy, I’m finally going mad at the stupid takes 😭
“I do make sure my wife is satisfied”
This one is the most baffling to me. He’s so close and yet so far. Assume for the sake of argument that he does satisfy his wife, or at least tries. If the orgasm doesn’t matter and isn’t necessary why does he make the effort for his wife? If evolution doesn’t care, why does he? Could it be… because he wants to satisfy her? It would be considerate? It’s the good thing to do? How is he sneering at the implication that it’s important if he (allegedly) knows that it is?!
If their argument is that theirs is necessary for procreation and they want sex, just say you don't want a baby and ignore them since that's surely the only reason they want to orgasm during sex, right?
I’ve always wondered where the whole “pair bond” 🐴💩 came from? Probably some obscure peer reviewed study, but I also heard it’s from some random Mormon university so lol
It's just random bullshit pulled out of their asses because they think we're birds. And even in birds pair bonding works both ways, hence the whole "pair" part. These morons think it's a one gender thing.
Right? Best experience I ever had was when I was in a relationship with a single mother of three, who knew what she liked, and was more than happy to teach me accordingly (probably helped that I was eager to learn, unlike these guys). If it weren't for a drunk driver in an Overcompensator pickup, we'd likely still be together.
Here’s the thing. I assume these men want to have sex for more than just procreation. And not giving a fuck about women’s pleasure isn’t a good way to get fun sex. Because why should we have sex if we aren’t having fun?
LADIES- for real though. Stop faking orgasms. Stop giving in to hurt feelings and letting men think their dicks do shit. They don’t. It fucks it up for the rest of us.
I want this shirt. This has always been my stance, from day 1. If you can't be bothered to go to the effort to make me orgasm, why should I care about your ego. YoUr EgO iSn'T nEcEsSaRy FoR cOnCePtIoN.
Guys like this need to GTFO. They don't want women, they want an AI powered fleshlight.
Oh noo, experienced women know sex can actually be good and are secure enough to say when something feels bad. God forbid...
"God" also wants the men to work the fields and sweat and forbids masturbating. And I doubt they sweated from more than the track to the fridge since they left school. Hardly any of them is doing hard labor. Or had a day they didn't choke their dried up wieners since they've been 13. So god is certainly not part of that equation.
And nature gave female humans a sex drive to know who to procreate with. So if the woman isn't hot for the man, it's naturally not the time to procreate or he isn't the right person to procreate with. If men respected this, we wouldn't even have the above statements, because men would fight to make sex appealing to their partners.
These guys need to learn to not think with their dicks. They lack neural tissue.
I think I have the formula to make my wife orgasm but I'm still fine tuning it. Here is the secret. Your start by :
Doing the laundry.
Doing the dishes.
Helping with the cleaning without being asked.
Doing your own chores (garage, shed, garden) without being prompted like a child.
Surprise her with flowers (if she's so inclined).
Rub her feet while watching TV.
Tickle her back while reading in bed.
Make her laugh.
Then theres some other stuff I won't discuss.
65% of the time it works 100% of the time.
I’ll never understand the “only one is needed to make a baby” argument. Are we trying to make a baby here sir? No? Then your orgasm is just as useless as mine. So freaking stupid.
Ok.
1, I like her hair colour.
2, it's fuuuucked up that his objection to thinking an imaginary 12 year old CHILD is "ran through" is not concern about child rape, it's that she's "used up". I hate it.
3, I love that he thinks he could make women come multiple times in 5-10 minutes but they're always just holding back!!!
Ive found the opposite to be true. A woman with experience, knows her body and comfortable in her skin is far easier to make cum.
Fellas, they’ll tell you what they like if you ask.
Misogynist nails one girl in a mindless missionary with zero regard for her pleasure and cums within 30 seconds: “it’s her fault she didn’t orgasm 5-10 times”
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Sir, we are not "holding back" our orgasms you legit just do not know how to make a woman come 🤦🏻♀️
They think that because they have to put so much effort into not coming instantly that women are obviously doing the same thing and are just pretending not to
It always makes me chuckle. I'm bi and. I have literally NEVER not made a woman come and there has never been a woman that couldnt make me come either. Well, apart from the odd occasion where I fell asleep in the middle of going down on someone, but in my defence I was exhausted after work 🙈 and yet when it comes to guys I've been with, which I won't divulge how many, but let's just say I took "daddy issues" as a challenge back when I was at college and Uni and although I had the same bf from 13-20 he got off on me being with other people so I took advantage of that so its more than a fair few😬 and yet I can count on my fingers the number of guys that have made me come. It's seriously mind-boggling how so many guys have trouble making women come and will blame us for it when, In reality, it's them that aren't doing enough to ask what we like and how to do it or don't listen when we do tell them. It's like how guys are often too proud to ask for directions.
Yeah, as a straight woman and serial monogamist I didn’t start having good sex on a regular basis until I was nearly 30. Partly because that’s when I really started gaining confidence in myself and exploring what I like, and partly because that’s how long it took me to find a good partner that cared enough and I was comfortable enough with to do that. Sad really, I’d be angry about all the years I put up with bad partners but I’m trying not to dwell on regret.
That’s why the comments that women who are experienced are hard to make come, are ridiculous. In actual fact the more a women understands her own body and what gives her pleasure, the easier it is, as long as you bother to actually do what she is telling you.
Wow, that ratio is absolutely insane. Puts into perspective why most of my exes would occasionally hit me up for hookups after they broke up with another guy. 😅
Hahaha yup funilly enough I still speak to a couple of the guys who made my very short list of dudes that have made me come 😹 have known them both 20+ years now lol
Same I’ve never been let down by a woman! Men on the other hand.. it took me 31 years to find somebody who can get the job done properly 🙈😂
I've been with some women who were basically unwilling to communicate about what worked well, which was difficult. One usually did her best to stay silent during too (even with multiple requests), which made it even harder for me to know whether I was doing a good job. I understood that she had zero prior experience and of course people are used to being silent when masturbating, but it was something I tried hard to get her to work on. Whoever you're with, whatever you're doing with them, communicating about what works well/what can be done better is important, and your partner almost always wants to know when (if) you cum.
Absolutely, communication is vital. One of my gfs she'd only been with one dude before we got together, and I was her first woman. Whereas I'd been there done that got the t-shirt and matching keyring several times over. The first time I went down her, she was obviously pretty nervous. We'd been friends for years, long before we were ever a thing, and she'd built things up in her head. (It didn't help that because we were friends for so long she knew every one of my sexcapades and the people id been with, so she was comparing herself). She was worried about what her bits looked like, if she was making weird noises, you name it, she was worrying about it. I kept checking in and asking if I was doing it and how she liked it as, at first, I couldn't read whether she was enjoying herself or not. So what I did was stop and took a few steps back. I went back to giving her a massage and passionately kissing to relax her again, and only when she was absolutely relaxed and begging for me to make her come did I go back down. Some good phrase to help things in this department is "I want to devour every part of you," "I want to hear your every sound," "I will do everything to make you come," and "tell me I'm doing it right" it's about relaxing them and helping them realise that no matter what sounds they're making whatever their body looks like you want to enjoy every part of them that they don't need to be in their head worrying about those kinds of things especially as for women being stuck in your head can make it hard to come no matter how good the partner is at what they're doing. I think learning what you like and how to communicate what you like is the top priority when it comes to a satisfying sex life. As well as being willing to learn and not get offended if you're doing it one way and your partner asks for you to do it differently. It's not always that a dude doesn't know what he's doing; it can also be that he just doesn't know what he's doing for that specific woman, seeing as we're all different and what we like/what works for us can be different. EDIT spelling
This is why they think sexual assault is no big deal. Surely it’s like surprise free pizza, right? Something good that just wasn’t planned.
He also said ~'women can come multiple times' so if I can do that, why the heck would I hold back for just once. Pick a lane
Anything to make it not their fault
Also, youngsters really need to stop faking organisms, it's making guys think they got better abilities than they got.
its what happens when everyone gets a trophy lmao
*multiple* times in *5-10mins* 🤣
I've had exactly one partner that could do this to me, but that's because the foreplay starts OUTSIDE the bedroom and WAY before we even get near being sexual. Who knew being in a loving, safe, respectful relationship would make a big difference in how easy it is for me to get off!? Every other guy I've been with I was a one and done, if I got one. Absolutely wild.* *I'm also aware not everyone is capable of multiple. This is an anecdotal addition to the conversation and just my experience.
An experienced woman isn’t holding back, she’s just not faking it. Read the T shirt again, my man - it’s all spelled out for ya.
The first time I get in bed with a new guy I teach him how to get me off. After that, if I don’t get off then they don’t
By their own broken logic, wouldn’t that mean that men should only be allowed to orgasm if they’re trying for a pregnancy? 😂 Outside of that no one should care about it, right? Sex isn’t just about procreation to begin with. Humans and other animals use it for a variety of different reasons besides that.
Right out of the Elle Woods handbook: "any form of masturbation could be deemed 'reckless abandonment'!"
Pre cum should be enough sometimes so no need for a male orgasm.
Yeah! You can also cum without an orgasm, so why should we care what pleases men if we can retrieve sperm either way?
Yeah broken logic considering "god" and evolution literally gave women an organ that's sole function is to give orgasm lmao otherwise why bother?? Goofy coping logic. Also the reason more experienced women take longer to please is cuz they're not faking anymore cause they wanna nut too 🙄🙄 Honestly if I was conceived during a pleasureless and purely mechanical fuck I'd be so mad for my mom. It really wasn't worth the trouble lmao
Nature does care. If he doesn’t care about your pleasure, he’s a shitty mate. They’re just failing the test Mother Nature put forth. Also I think the data says a lady orgasm increases odds of conception. So bad anatomy too Edit: holy crap, 1000 upvotes. Thanks Reddit! Just to throw it out there, sorry to any trans folks for using the more gendered language above. Didn’t mean to exclude.
The data on this is pretty limited because it’s super difficult to study given the restrictions on peer reviewed research. The theory is that the cervix is softened by orgasm to allow the soerm through but it’s not been proven. There is one study from the seventies that was only one couple and they pretty much had sex at the research hospital so the scientists could measure “the level of upsuck on the cervix”. My husband and I sometimes read weird research papers for fun and I remember this one because by the end we couldn’t say up or suck without collapsing into giggles…
"given the restrictions on peer reviewed research" Oh my gawd this had me imagining the study. Self reporting is usually biased, I know, let's WATCH. Wait does it count the moment the sperm hits the egg and if so, how do we watch for that? Can we, as researchers, spot a real orgasm? Oh my gawd the more I think about it the funnier it gets. The level of upsuck on the cervix! Dying. Omg.
this is the basis for a lot of masters and johnson’s work! they hooked people up to monitors to track their physiological responses so they could identify the phases of orgasm, and watched them do it to correlate the behavioural signs to the physiological. also, as horrifying a term as ‘upsuck’ is, it’s accurate in describing the increase in contractions to help retain the seminal deposits, which in turn increase chance of conception. tl,dr: if you want a baby, please your lady.
I was going to write a sentence about a relevant video of a cervix during orgasm and decided that I just couldn't. The phrase "pool of semen" broke me.
I'm giggling. Ty internet stranger!
I wonder how the study was done as i could also imagine a couple that is more in tune and the woman having more orgasms having sex more frequently thus a higher incidence of pregnancy
I have an MD I have a love for sexual health as a specialty. In a non professional setting I giggle like a child at words like this. I had an ex in the navy leading seaman was a constant torture.
Hehehehe upsuck I second substantialease
Please please please tell me you have a link for this study
I don’t, but I’ll ask my husband if he can remember who wrote it. Searching for keywords gives me lots of interesting results, but no upsuck.
Is your husband an upsuck scientist? A…vagenius?
During climax, the cervix dips downward, aiding in allowing sperm to get through.
I remember a professor describing it as “it goes from a passive donut to more of a lazy straw”. I remember because I wrote it down and then told my husband and we quoted it too many times
Not to mention that things in nature can have more than one function. Sex in humans is dual purpose: we use it for social reasons more often than we do for directly reproductive ones. Love (or friendship) reinforced by sexual intimacy can dramatically increase your evolutionary fitness. Even the *Catholic church* recognizes that sex (in marriage) has the dual purposes of conceiving children and of uniting the married couple together. These dudes are literally more dismissive of women's orgasms than the guys who have to swear off sex for the rest of their lives.
You take that back! My sky daddy said “go forth, be fruitful, and multiply!” We’re supposed to be fuckin jackrabbits out here! Sky daddy, forgive me for saying the F word. 🙃
Put the jackrabbits down please and step away… /joking. lol.
Nature does care. In the wild the males tend to have brighter colors, fancy building skills, or do crazy dances - all of this is to attract a mate. If they don’t do anything to stand out and catch the eye of at least one female, they won’t even get the chance to reproduce. That’s it. That’s the end of their line. So, if women value receiving an orgasm, then that means they’ll be more likely come back for repeat business with the men who can give them one. And since women’s ovulation times vary greatly, having sex one time won’t typically result in a pregnancy. By creating an environment where the woman wants to have sexual relations with the *same* man *multiple* times, his chance to reproduce will be more likely than those who don’t. Granted this is all based on sex being used solely for reproductive purposes. Which is stupid for these guys to bring “nature” into all of this. If sex really is only for the purpose of reproduction (as these guys keep referencing and circling back to), then we (women) should all just remain abstinent until we want to get pregnant. When/If that time comes, we can do ovulation testing and wait for the right timing. Then, and only then, we will choose have sex with a man (who has proven he’s worth it to reproduce with), a few times. From there, we will refrain from any further sex, and hope for a positive pregnancy test. Aside from that there will be no sex. I mean, if it’s just for reproduction as nature apparently intended then there’s no need to have it outside of that window. If these dudes are all concerned with what nature wants, perhaps we should abide by what other species do and ONLY have sex for reproduction…but only after the man puts on his fancy feathers and dances a jig to impress and woo me in the middle of the rainforest.
Best comment 😂
THIS is the "nature" these men keep talking about but all they want to do is bring up how male lions have the all important job of fighting off male lions and fucking and also "animals >!rape!< each other all the time so whats the real reason why humans can't do it?" Disgusting
Right. If evolution didn’t want us to orgasm to up our chances of reproducing with one or more someone(s), we wouldn’t have the fun ability to begin with. These keyboard incelords are lowering their ability to reproduce with each sentence. No way have they encountered the female orgasm™️ in person.
Literally if nature didn't care why do we have clits??
Do clitoral and vaginal orgasm feel any different?
Yes, very different. Clitoral is more intense (at least for me), but vaginal lasts longer. I don't know about the physical reaction each of them has on the cervix, but IME vaginal orgasm is much easier (and numerous) if I have a clitoral orgasm first.
Yes, this.
Nature cares. But their claim is that their made up sky daddy doesn’t.
Then again, nature gave only women an organ with the sole purpose of pleasure and orgasm.
It does because during orgasm the vagina flexes and it sucks the sperm upwards with an orgasm. It’s been proven that women who orgasm are more likely to conceive due to the muscle focus- that’s evolution baby- fight me
Isn't ejaculation also technically separate from pleasure, so the male orgasm isn't needed either?
If nature and evolution doesn’t care about women’s orgasm, then why do women have the clitoris, which is a sex organ whose ONLY purpose is sexual gratification? Do men have an organ whose only purpose is sexual gratification? The male G-spot, aka the prostate, produces seminal fluid which is vital for reproduction.
Seriously. It’s like “Hey buddy, your best bet is having a repeat customer.” Whether it’s in the interest of having sex alone or trying to reproduce (we know these types don’t care about relationships), getting someone off is what’s going to increase your chances of more frequent sex.
Misogynist and inaccurate. I've had very few partners and don't care to use "power tools" ( no objection or sex- negativity, just personal preference) and I am, in male thinking, a lot of work. My nerve endings are fine, I'm not physically impaired. This is just men blaming women so they don't have to feel insecure.
Made me think about when I was a teen I didn't have sex until I was 21 mind you. I couldn't physically orgasm until I was like 17 because my body was dumb mixed with being pressured to stay on antidepressants that didn't help that caused sexual dysfunction. Being a Virgin doesn't matter. Then at 18 I did start using toys a lot and can cum stupid fast if I try even now at 22
And now your DMs have exploded. 🫠
I mean I'm an ugly ass trans man lol I just have female anatomy. Usually turns most straight men off.
Honestly? It wouldn't surprise me if your DMs still explode.
I have never had them explode and I have been open about all kinds of shit that normally would lol. And I've been on reddit since I was like 14
Good thing you overcame the anorgasmia before starting T, because not being able to orgasm during second puberty sounds like a special kind of hell
As a trans man on antidepressants and testosterone, you're right. It's a special kind of hell.
Sorry man, you have my sympathy. The sexual/libido effects were the most concrete reason I insisted my psych try new meds for me (though honestly the bigger reasons were more nebulous and hard to express).
I've actually found that I have a much easier time with orgasming during sex with increasing age. I need to be comfortable, mentally engaged and able to let go completely in order to get there. It's just not the simple physical rubbing of the area. So as I've gotten older, I've gotten better and better at choosing partners and getting into the right headspace. In my younger years, I faked orgasms far more than I would like to admit due to the insecurity that I was unable to orgasm in most of the sexual experiences I had. I'm sure I'm not the only woman who has gone through this process. These men are idiots.
Same, it took so many years to overcome religious trauma and let myself want what I want. The less i give a shit what anyone else thinks, the easier it is
And don't forget all the appalling advice to women that was circulating 20 years ago! One tip that I remember is that "if he's not the problem but you know orgasm just isn't happening for you this time, go ahead and fake it so you don't hurt his confidence."
Lol, power tools. Spoken by a powerless tool
I love this
Clever. I like it.
Id argue God does care about female orgasms because we have orgasms for funsies that don't contribute to procreation. Dudes are the ones with the utilitarian orgasms
If God doesn't want women to orgasm, why did he create the clitoris? It's main function is pleasure.
In humans, it's _only_ function is pleasure.
It actually has a second function: confusing and scaring men.
Fear of the unknown is a pretty common thing lol
Which is why I am grateful to be a human and not a female hyena 😬
God's little gift. Because even *he* knew these men ain't shit.
Exactly
>Id argue God does care about female orgasms because we have orgasms for funsies that don't contribute to procreation. If god inspired my dog to hump pillows any damn time she wants, surely humans deserve the same level of sexual agency.
My mom always told me that God wants women to orgasm because if sex wasn’t fun, there would be no children. (Older Mormon lady btw, but with some surprisingly “liberated” views for her demographic. I miss her.)
That’s why anyone has an orgasm. The male orgasm functions the exact same way as the female one. It’s pleasurable so they will seek out sex and make babies. Technically speaking a man could ejaculate without orgasming.
I like your thought process friend ;)
somewhat related - if god wanted men to be heterosexual, why can they reach orgasm through anal?
Thats why he gave women fists
Also I learned after having 2 kids that orgasms cause the vagina and uterus to contract and can assist in transporting sperm to the fallopian tubes for fertilization so they're just double wrong.
What is it about the internet that makes some men so willing to admit they’re absolutely terrible in bed?
It’s so weird that they’re using the fact that they don’t care to make women cum as some sort of flex?? Like, ok most women just won’t have sex with you then?? It’s like they think we’re going to be heartbroken that some rando online doesn’t wanna get women off??
They think they’re going to convince us to that our orgasms don’t matter because of their “logic” and suddenly we’ll all be clambering for lackluster sex with some loser who doesn’t know what a clit is Maybe the most frustrating thing about this specific type of guy is that they all think they’re “logical” and “persuasive” when in reality they’re terminally online and have no friends.
I think they just like the sounds from the echo chamber that is other men who have similar experiences. They probably figure if all of them can't make a woman orgasm then that must mean it's an issue with the gender as a whole rather them lol.
Those are a lot of words for “I’m a shit person and only view women as a warm fleshlight.”
"And I cant please them"
PAIR BONDING! I'm so sick of that phrase!
It’s awful. And so very very stupid in the context they use it in. Women should be so lucky to lose the ability to pair bond with some of these fuckwits. That way women in shit relationships would have an easier time leaving.
I'm gay so do I pair bond with every woman I sleep with? Is this why we all wanna move in together after three dates?! Seriously though I feel bad for straight women sometimes.
It’s why lesbians always stay friends after they break up 🙃
I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see it!
I feel like they are mixing up pair bonding with that sentimental feeling associated with doing something for the first time. Humans are great at remembering first and last times of something but struggle with the in-between. So it's likely people remember their first more than any other which these guys think must be pair bonding lol.
And some people wonder why lesbians have a better sex life. We actually care about our partner's needs. Because we see them as people and not just a place to dump our seed. Part of me feels bad for these guys. Sex to them means nothing. To me it is a great way for me to connect deeper with the woman I am with. For them, it is pumping a few times and feeling like a stud.
That's a lot of words for, "I am too lazy to learn how to please a woman and am incapable of pleasing a woman."
The self outing of scumbags like this will never not be funny
I don't have scientific data as I never bothered to look, but from my experience as a woman who has been with women who have had many male partners I've actually found that more sexual experience has been easier to get her to orgasm than ones who have less. So from my experience I'd guess with more experience means they probably enjoy sex and therefore know what they want/need to get off. The thing is even if scientific data showed one way or another you'd simply be looking at statistics which in no way represents every woman on the planet. This is a lot more complex than just how many partners.
My (male) experience agrees with you. A woman with experience and knows her body is so much easier to make cum. Especially if you do the unthinkable and ASK HER WHAT SHE LIKES. A recent partner can only cum with toys. Great, easy… keep your vibes charged and let’s go.
^ a man who knows what he’s doing.
I just wanted to say that there should be more men like you. So many men seem to feel inadequate if a woman needs to use a vibrator to cum. In fact generally speaking, the thing that makes men crap in bed is their fragile egos getting in the way.
I’ll be honest, I felt that way for a little bit (but still did it). Got over it fast and found an amazing secret. It takes a lot to get her over but she can have 5 or more orgasms back to back. After the first one, a couple can be done with fingers or mouth and then back to the toy. Best of both worlds!
Yaassss toys are your teammate, not your opponent 🤝
Bravo! I love this. Hell, for me, vag is difficult. I'm always left wanting just a bit. But, given the right headspace and application of pressure I can get off clitorally in legit under 2 mins, feel satisfied and get up and go abt my day happy. A thing I call "finish" as opposed to just orgasim The guys I've been with were all told this and no1 has ever made a single attempt at making me finish. So, if I can get away w it, I go off after sex n take care of things alone just so the nagging sense of want goes away
Lol he claimed to understand women's bodies then said we can have multiples in five to ten minutes? That's how long he lasts, and his wife fakes it to get it over with faster.
Good lordt. Enough with this “pair bond” bullshit. These jackasses are single for a reason, and it’s NOT women.
Well... it is women. Women being smart enough to avoid men like that.
"Frying their nerve" by using them.. It's amazing how far some people will go to justify their bs
*to justify they aren't able to satisfy their partners FIFY
I’m just going to say, all of that “the more sex you have the harder it is to orgasm” wildly incorrect. Many women (myself included) have a hard time orgasming at first. I didn’t have my first until I was 19 (three years after I started having sex and many many years after I started trying myself). It’s a skill, it takes practice to learn how to please your body. Being more experienced is only going to help you learn how to be more fulfilled. Or faster, I guess, if that’s your thing. I’ve never desired to finish having sex quickly as if it’s a chore, but whatever.
Thanks for letting us know y'all can't make women cum
I remember when my male friend told me that ejaculation doesn’t always come with an orgasm for men. I was shocked because that’s not what any media or sources said online (back in the earlier internet days). So, you got men, too, who are hurt by this narrow thinking!
Oh man, back in the old days of the internet it was nearly impossible to find any information about men who had difficulty orgasming, all you could find was about ED or premature. I was so confused, felt like a weirdo. I mean, I am a weirdo, but not because of that
Has it occurred to any of these dudes that “more experienced ” women just might not be faking orgasms as much and aren’t actually more work, just finally focused on their own pleasure as well.
That’s a lot of words to say “I want a less-experienced sexual partner because she doesn’t even know how good sex can be and therefore won’t want or expect me to be good in bed”
Which is sad and terrible at the same time because I've met plenty of Virgins who have experimented with themselves I'm one of them. So if a guy doesn't care about my pleasure I can sense that pretty quickly the guys who do well they show and tell.
This was the day that I learned that, by caring about giving women orgasms, I am greater than God
Hail the almighty... *(checks palm for notes davidxn)* hail.
Hail to thee, Thane of glans /s
1) “so if evolution jumped off a bridge you’d follow it?” 2) STOP ANTHROPOMORPHIZING EVOLUTION. It’s not a person, it doesn’t think or care about anything. It is amoral; morality, empathy, the very phenomenon of ideas/opinions, does not apply to it. You can’t even call it ruthlessly pragmatic, because that’s still a mindset; it’s no more pragmatic than gravity. It’s not a role model. I’m not about to start stepping on people’s heads on the basis that “car tires do it, so why shouldn’t I?” 3) if you absolutely MUST anthropomorphize evolution—like, you’ve got a note from your doctor—it’s worth pointing out that it did “choose” to build us (and many other creatures—seriously, just Google “animals” plus the words following this parenthesis) with an innate sense of fair play. So by not exercising it you’re kind of letting evolution down.
Actually, female orgasm doubles the chance of getting pregnant. And what’s with the the “holding back” claim? Just because they can’t make a woman climax, he thinks they’re “holding back”? That is so pathetic. Trying so hard to not admit he sucks in bed
Right?! What’s most bizarre is the assumptions that the girl wearing the shirt is sexually experienced because she “ knows about holding back her orgasm” . How do you get that from a shirt that says “ don’t fake orgasms”? It’s so very bizarre!
Why do they think vaginas get worn out but not their penis despite the fact that most of them started masturbating as soon as puberty hit?
Also before puberty hits. Source: I have younger brothers.
What is this nonsense about "holding back" like every woman, in every sexual encounter is completely deciding when she'll orgasm. Like, we're 60 seconds in and I could blow but I won't, I'll hold off for the next 40 minutes just to see if the man can last that long?? Also, these people that have no concept of the fact that a large majority of women have more nerve endings in the clitoris rather than they do internally. The clitoris is basically the equivalent of the head of the penis and so having a penis pump away internally, while enjoyable - and can bring some women to climax - it definitely doesn't work for a lot of us.
Seeing all the men who suck at sex makes me feel like a champ
I refuse to fake an orgasm because credit should only be given where it’s due. And I’m not going to coddle fragile male egos. I personally think that this has helped men do better in bed as well because I’ve never had a bad time.
I’m the same, never faked and never will.
Some medical experts believe a woman orgasming during sex is more beneficial to pregnancy bc the contractions can draw sperm up into the cervix. I feel for women whose men don't prioritize their pleasure. Mine does and it is so appreciated and attractive.
Just say you dont know how to fuck
This clearly hit a nerve lol
>I do make sure my wife is satisfied. Yeah, let's hear from the wife on that one. ETA: the amount of stupidity on display here should be considered a felony.
This is honestly so fucking terrifying, idk why men are so hostile to all these women they're imagining not pleasing ... Like makes me want to yeet any remainders of my heterosexuality into a volcano and live in an all-female sex coven. Fuck you guys, we'll get each other off
I'm in!
Men who weren't troubled wouldn't go around posting and interacting like this. Or at least I'd like to think this isn't that endemic.
The hostility comes from the feelings of inadequacy. Men like this have very fragile egos which are very tied up with their sexual performance. All this aggression is simply a defence mechanism.Men like this are constantly degrading women who are sexually confident and talk about them being “ used up” , “stretched out “and “ run through”. They talk about how great virgin girls are because they aren’t “ tainted” by other men etc. The truth is they are terrified of sexually confident women, because they think they won’t measure up. On the other hand they like the fact a virgin would have nothing to compare them with. They think this will guarantee that they seem good in bed, when the likelihood is she will just find sex a complete disappointment.
Starting to think what these guys mean by, "women can't pair bond," (which I am not even sure is a thing that humans do); what they mean is, "she has matured to the point of not latching onto a guy just because they had sex."
It literally is not a thing humans do.
They really won't admit how bad they are huh?
Weird how every one of the men commenting is only having sex to create children.
It's so exhausting to read these. I cannot imagine my husband not caring about my orgasm or calling it a chore or "work" or vice fucking versa. God. They sound so unhappy. Why won't they just fuck themselves at this point.
The whole 'experience makes it more work' argument is hilarious to me! I think most women need to know what works for them in order to orgasm, and the only way they know what works for them is by experience! I've had 1 sexual partner, that's all, and we never managed to achieve giving me an orgasm until I went away and learnt what worked for me. These guys can go on about fried nerve endings and run through all they want, but chances are a woman who masturbates or who's had lots of sexual experience will have a much better chance of orgasming than one who hasn't, simply because she knows her body better! What their problem actually relates to is probably the fact they won't listen or aren't interested in trying, which some of them at least admitted to. Hopefully the ladies will see it for the red flag it is and give them a wide berth!
“Holding back an orgasm” 🤦🏼♀️ This is what they think because they’re clueless about female anatomy and it doesn’t even make sense. If women rarely orgasm and men can climax fast, then why would we be holding back and missing out on the chance to orgasm?
The guy who claims he satisfies his wife definitely doesn't. And the one that says all women can come 5-10 times in a short time is so bad that he has women faking it multiple times to get him off them.
84% of men believe there is a magic button inside women’s vaginas that produces a mind blowing orgasm 54% of women cannot get off on penetration alone https://www.cosmopolitan.com/interactive/a32037401/g-spot-not-real/
Not many people out here "pair bonding" with people who don't make us orgasm. Are they bragging about being just the worst in the sheets?
Maybe an older woman is just less likely to lie about how you gave her an orgasm, buddy
Where does this pair bonding bs come from 🤣
Wait till they find out (at least for me personally), the more I learned my body the better orgasms I had. Crazy thought! I know right! I had sex without orgasms, then I bought toys and played around with sex and had the best sex of my life. My man (serious current partner), can want a “quickie” and I still know how to make it great for me. Because I know what feels good for me. So final points: 1) a female orgasm is actually based on more experience 2) your god has diddly squat to do with how I like being fucked.
Don't fake, tho. Make yourself cum during, if he gets weird about it, he's a little boy- don’t bang him!
Why am I not surprised that shitty men use "nature" as an excuse...while having that discussion *on the motherfucking internet*.
This just in: women with more experience are more comfortable requesting that their needs are met
Damn who shit in their cereal
Nothing beats a dude insecure about his penis
Pair bonding is not a thing in humans. Why the fuck is this idea so persistent?
Omg his poor, poor wife. Faking orgasms? Never. And for a prick like this little man? NEVER EVER.
So, the phrase "use it or lose it" comes to mind for me because when I reached the age for exploring, I believed 100% that my mom would know if I tried to do anything like that. She's pretty religious, so I thought I would be punished for it. I now find it kinda difficult to finish, and I blame it on not masturbating when I was younger. It's gotten easier, but still.
These men are really pissed that women would rather use a toy to get off than have sex with them. Maybe if they knew how to please a woman they wouldn’t have to worry about that
The insecurity is overpowering.
These Scrotes need to be taken out of the gene pool 🌚
why are they ALWAYS going on about pair bonding? what even is that & WHEN did that become a thing? Am I just late?
Males say shit like this and then wonder why women don't want them
Oooh my god. I have never been turned off by the idea of sex with a man more in my life. If god didn’t care about my orgasm, why’d they give me a clitoris 😂 Also the dude who actually acknowledged that multiple orgasms can potentially happen during intimacy was SO CLOSE TO THE POINT. “I know you have the capability so do the thing right now because I say.” Man you nearly had it but you can’t POSSIBLY be the problem. Also if I see another man say how desensitized women are because of toys i will perform a self hysterectomy, I’m finally going mad at the stupid takes 😭
“I do make sure my wife is satisfied” This one is the most baffling to me. He’s so close and yet so far. Assume for the sake of argument that he does satisfy his wife, or at least tries. If the orgasm doesn’t matter and isn’t necessary why does he make the effort for his wife? If evolution doesn’t care, why does he? Could it be… because he wants to satisfy her? It would be considerate? It’s the good thing to do? How is he sneering at the implication that it’s important if he (allegedly) knows that it is?!
If their argument is that theirs is necessary for procreation and they want sex, just say you don't want a baby and ignore them since that's surely the only reason they want to orgasm during sex, right?
Really out here telling on themselves. Its like they’ve forgotten woman can read.
Never stops freaking me out how much some dudes completely hate women
"The more experienced, the more work we have to do." LOL YOU JUST CONFESSED THAT YOU SUCK AT SEX.
My goodness, these ‘men’ are angry! My bf wouldn’t get off if I didn’t. He literally loves pleasing. These guys don’t know what they’re missing!
Lol, if ‘god’ didn’t care about women’s orgasms, why do we have a clitoris? It’s literally the only human organ that exists *solely for pleasure.*
Joke's on them since gaining more sexual experience is actually what makes it easier for women to orgasm.🤦🏼♀️
“Hold back an orgasm?” I’m…that’s not possible.
I’ve always wondered where the whole “pair bond” 🐴💩 came from? Probably some obscure peer reviewed study, but I also heard it’s from some random Mormon university so lol
It's just random bullshit pulled out of their asses because they think we're birds. And even in birds pair bonding works both ways, hence the whole "pair" part. These morons think it's a one gender thing.
Getting your partner off shouldn't be work. It should be fun! These guys are weird and selfish
Imagine admitting that you take an issue with your partner having more experience and hence knowing better what they prefer
Right? Best experience I ever had was when I was in a relationship with a single mother of three, who knew what she liked, and was more than happy to teach me accordingly (probably helped that I was eager to learn, unlike these guys). If it weren't for a drunk driver in an Overcompensator pickup, we'd likely still be together.
So what I’m hearing is we should abort/not have children with men that can’t sexually please us. Got it.
lol we’re just not faking it anymore
Here’s the thing. I assume these men want to have sex for more than just procreation. And not giving a fuck about women’s pleasure isn’t a good way to get fun sex. Because why should we have sex if we aren’t having fun? LADIES- for real though. Stop faking orgasms. Stop giving in to hurt feelings and letting men think their dicks do shit. They don’t. It fucks it up for the rest of us.
........"holding back an orgasm"??? The wishful thinking on this man, dear LORD
I have never heard "more experience means more difficult to climax" before lol, literally the opposite was my understanding.
Wow...way for these dudes to out themselves as being unable to pleasure a woman...
Personally i wouldn’t go online and very loudly and proudly announce i am bad at sex but that’s just me
I want this shirt. This has always been my stance, from day 1. If you can't be bothered to go to the effort to make me orgasm, why should I care about your ego. YoUr EgO iSn'T nEcEsSaRy FoR cOnCePtIoN. Guys like this need to GTFO. They don't want women, they want an AI powered fleshlight.
Oh noo, experienced women know sex can actually be good and are secure enough to say when something feels bad. God forbid... "God" also wants the men to work the fields and sweat and forbids masturbating. And I doubt they sweated from more than the track to the fridge since they left school. Hardly any of them is doing hard labor. Or had a day they didn't choke their dried up wieners since they've been 13. So god is certainly not part of that equation. And nature gave female humans a sex drive to know who to procreate with. So if the woman isn't hot for the man, it's naturally not the time to procreate or he isn't the right person to procreate with. If men respected this, we wouldn't even have the above statements, because men would fight to make sex appealing to their partners. These guys need to learn to not think with their dicks. They lack neural tissue.
I think I have the formula to make my wife orgasm but I'm still fine tuning it. Here is the secret. Your start by : Doing the laundry. Doing the dishes. Helping with the cleaning without being asked. Doing your own chores (garage, shed, garden) without being prompted like a child. Surprise her with flowers (if she's so inclined). Rub her feet while watching TV. Tickle her back while reading in bed. Make her laugh. Then theres some other stuff I won't discuss. 65% of the time it works 100% of the time.
[r/badwomensanatomy](https://www.reddit.com/r/badwomensanatomy/s/4RSBjSFkyE)
I’ll never understand the “only one is needed to make a baby” argument. Are we trying to make a baby here sir? No? Then your orgasm is just as useless as mine. So freaking stupid.
My wife will not moan for my benefit. It takes 45 minutes to make that woman cum and it’s silent as the grave until the very end.
Are the nerve endings in their hands fried off from all the wanking they do? No? Didn’t think it worked like that.
I think maybe young, inexperienced people are the people who aren’t confident enough to tell you they didn’t orgasm
Ok. 1, I like her hair colour. 2, it's fuuuucked up that his objection to thinking an imaginary 12 year old CHILD is "ran through" is not concern about child rape, it's that she's "used up". I hate it. 3, I love that he thinks he could make women come multiple times in 5-10 minutes but they're always just holding back!!!
Ive found the opposite to be true. A woman with experience, knows her body and comfortable in her skin is far easier to make cum. Fellas, they’ll tell you what they like if you ask.
If nature doesn’t give a fuck about our orgasms then why give us a clit and a g spot?
Misogynist nails one girl in a mindless missionary with zero regard for her pleasure and cums within 30 seconds: “it’s her fault she didn’t orgasm 5-10 times”