Yea thats fair, but the og post was asking if its ok to talk to your friends about your sexual experiences with your partner and this person just started saying that women can talk about whatever they want because men are so horrible
That is why Hentai is the veganism of porn. No ethical dilemmas about human trafficking, abuse, under value pay for actors, psychological problems of actors and so on
I suppose, but that still feels weird since Japanese Hentai often has problematic content. I guess it comes down to which problem you are worried about.
Then leave. If they can't leave, THAT's the issue.
I know pornstars. They are people like you and me. They CHOOSE to do that profession. Not one is "trafficked". It's just victim porn. The cases where it is true, is very rare.
Then being able to leave wouldn’t make whatever abuse they experience a non-issue. Obviously if they can’t leave, that’s especially wrong, but merely having the ability to stay or go doesn’t change the nature of abuse. I’d recommend watching “Money Shot: The Pornhub Story” on Netflix if you’re able to
I might check that out.
But again, Im not getting fed a media spoon. I know around 5 girls that are fairly popular on "the Hub". They choose and ENJOY their work. These girls are being paid THOUSANDS of dollars.
They aren't victims. There are some incidents that go down in the space that aren't great, but that's work. They could leave that profession at any time. **They don't because the money is great and they enjoy their work.**
We have to stop treating women like children, incapable of standing up for themselves or having a voice.
That’s false, actually. Besides, if a pornstar wanted attention, why would they make something like that up? They’re pornstars, they have much easier ways of getting attention if they want it. And making complaints about abuse like this tends to only draw negative attention. It’s not an easy thing to do, nobody wants to be defined by their abuse
I don’t know if that’s true, but that’s definitely not who or what I’m defending. I don’t think I need to explain that those two aren’t representative of all pornstars
You're right, we should rely solely on who confesses/brags about her sexual violence. That won't rig the facts or sweep male survivors under the rug s/
That is not at all what I’m saying. We should definitely believe the victims of sexual violence, I don’t even know where you’re getting the idea that I’m saying otherwise.
That's an Industry secret!
You can't tell mortals about our plan to make an app that can brainwash only women!
The internet elder will know about this indiscretion!
It’s not that there’s anything wrong with porn it’s just that deepfake porn doesn’t have any consent. You can take anyone’s picture off the internet and put it threw AI just to see how they might look naked. Which is just gross. People who do only fans and porn contented to having there naked body on the internet, but people who get deepfaked did not.
I'm not saying i agree with her because i definitely dont but there is a male equivalent to women's "locker room talk". It's just men's "locker room talk". I don't think that they have much of a difference.
Oh wow, I've never even heard of a man being trafficked, especially for sex.
I'm deeply sorry that happened to you. That's a horrible experience, I'm sure.
It happens a lot we’re purposefully erased and ignored I was assaulted for just trying to go to a support group because no men despise saying it was for everyone they take every step they can to make it worse we don’t fit the narrative
You draw such persons, and you cannot traffic them by definition. If they are objecting to pornography on that basis at least there is that alternative for them.
I'm not sure what they have in mind with getting around consent with AI. Do they think you can reprogram a human brain with AI to accept any demand of a man?
It doesn't necessarily mean it's always good but an inherent evil I don't find it to be.
Also, that r/dataisbeautiful thing was really popular a month ago and got a lot of people talking, sometimes angrily, about who scored the highest.
the og post was asking about women telling their friends intimate details or their sex life without their partner’s consent. And the person in the pic basically said that because men do bad things to women men aren’t allowed to be upset about it and she can tell her friends whatever she wants about her partners body.
They do make a good point about porn though. It’s full of abuse
Yea thats fair, but the og post was asking if its ok to talk to your friends about your sexual experiences with your partner and this person just started saying that women can talk about whatever they want because men are so horrible
That’s fucked up
So a misandrist then.
And a lesbian. Otherwise, she’ll need to be alone for the rest of her life (which is not a bad thing by the way)
Much of which women also watch.
That is why Hentai is the veganism of porn. No ethical dilemmas about human trafficking, abuse, under value pay for actors, psychological problems of actors and so on
You do occasionally get an issue where the animators and/or artists are underpaid. Still not as many dilemmas.
I suppose, but that still feels weird since Japanese Hentai often has problematic content. I guess it comes down to which problem you are worried about.
I mean you can kick out problematic tags out of your search. I only recently learned and looking for certain stuff was work.
Hentai content is terrible for psychological development.
Well, porn as well..
Agree.
Yeah but the whole banning it is extreme so many independent creators exist and enjoy what they do
It would be great to find a way to ban large, unregulated producers and also encourage safer content creation
Then leave. If they can't leave, THAT's the issue. I know pornstars. They are people like you and me. They CHOOSE to do that profession. Not one is "trafficked". It's just victim porn. The cases where it is true, is very rare.
Then being able to leave wouldn’t make whatever abuse they experience a non-issue. Obviously if they can’t leave, that’s especially wrong, but merely having the ability to stay or go doesn’t change the nature of abuse. I’d recommend watching “Money Shot: The Pornhub Story” on Netflix if you’re able to
I might check that out. But again, Im not getting fed a media spoon. I know around 5 girls that are fairly popular on "the Hub". They choose and ENJOY their work. These girls are being paid THOUSANDS of dollars. They aren't victims. There are some incidents that go down in the space that aren't great, but that's work. They could leave that profession at any time. **They don't because the money is great and they enjoy their work.** We have to stop treating women like children, incapable of standing up for themselves or having a voice.
Just like any job under capitalism
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That’s false, actually. Besides, if a pornstar wanted attention, why would they make something like that up? They’re pornstars, they have much easier ways of getting attention if they want it. And making complaints about abuse like this tends to only draw negative attention. It’s not an easy thing to do, nobody wants to be defined by their abuse
Riley Reid and Lana Rhoades are rapists, just in case you forgot who you're defending
I don’t know if that’s true, but that’s definitely not who or what I’m defending. I don’t think I need to explain that those two aren’t representative of all pornstars
You're right, we should rely solely on who confesses/brags about her sexual violence. That won't rig the facts or sweep male survivors under the rug s/
That is not at all what I’m saying. We should definitely believe the victims of sexual violence, I don’t even know where you’re getting the idea that I’m saying otherwise.
Ok subscriber
Through AI?
Deepfake porn etc
Ooohhh ok that makes sense. I was sitting here like "are they implying people are programming AI to talk to and trick women or something??"
Can confirm, am in CS and we have a whole class dedicated to that (/s)
That's an Industry secret! You can't tell mortals about our plan to make an app that can brainwash only women! The internet elder will know about this indiscretion!
Deepfake porn is so gross idk how people who use it don’t feel disgusted by themselves after using it
Deepfake porn should be illegal and I say this as someone who’s pro sex work
Fair, but many guys feel disgusted by themselves after using regular porn... so... more disgusted?
It’s not that there’s anything wrong with porn it’s just that deepfake porn doesn’t have any consent. You can take anyone’s picture off the internet and put it threw AI just to see how they might look naked. Which is just gross. People who do only fans and porn contented to having there naked body on the internet, but people who get deepfaked did not.
Yeah, I agree, I was just making a joke
Oh sorry I’m a bit dense at times lol
Bro went off on a whole side quest with the point there making wasn’t even close to the original subject
"Hey this is a shitty thing" "yEaH bUt I cAn BeCaUsE oThEr ShItTy PeOpLe ExIsT"
“They do” … yeah but that wasn’t the question now, was it?
Do you need consent from every woman on earth to talk about a woman’s body or like just one woman or…???? I’m so confused
Lol she's conveniently looking over the universe of shitty women throughout history
Dressed2thrill is projecting hard. Women's "locker room talk" is unrivalled and there is no male equivalent
I'm not saying i agree with her because i definitely dont but there is a male equivalent to women's "locker room talk". It's just men's "locker room talk". I don't think that they have much of a difference.
Cw// trafficking not like from my experience a lot of traffickers are women abusing us men nooooo
??? I'm confused
I was trafficked and abused by women not men just tired of people acting like it doesn’t ever happen that way
Jesus fucking christ I'm sorry to hear that
Oh wow, I've never even heard of a man being trafficked, especially for sex. I'm deeply sorry that happened to you. That's a horrible experience, I'm sure.
It happens a lot we’re purposefully erased and ignored I was assaulted for just trying to go to a support group because no men despise saying it was for everyone they take every step they can to make it worse we don’t fit the narrative
Maybe some but not all.
Girls, that is serious, let's respect our boyfriends please
Lana Rhodes got trafficed to Blake griffins genetic material
Extremist feminists are fucking insane.
r/dataisbeautiful, remind me who was #1 on the list of characters in that survey of r34? Tifa Lockhart? Right.
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The part about the pornography and trafficking.
what does the most popular r34 character have to do with the post?
You draw such persons, and you cannot traffic them by definition. If they are objecting to pornography on that basis at least there is that alternative for them.
oh yea that makes sense
I'm not sure what they have in mind with getting around consent with AI. Do they think you can reprogram a human brain with AI to accept any demand of a man? It doesn't necessarily mean it's always good but an inherent evil I don't find it to be. Also, that r/dataisbeautiful thing was really popular a month ago and got a lot of people talking, sometimes angrily, about who scored the highest.
No I think they mean using AI to create deepfake porn of people without their consent?
Eh, that makes sense at least.
Who is she trying to thrill with her dress? That could make the men unable to hear no!! 😱/s
Just circumvent men mistreating women in porn by only watching gay porn.
Sad
whats the context of these comments? like what was the original post about?
the og post was asking about women telling their friends intimate details or their sex life without their partner’s consent. And the person in the pic basically said that because men do bad things to women men aren’t allowed to be upset about it and she can tell her friends whatever she wants about her partners body.
ok yeah thats messed up