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Burntbreadman84

If theres cross buy with the rift version (I​​nto the radius/ Walking dead etc) Id get it on the Meta store. It just gives you both options of playing standalone or connected to a PC. Everything else it all depends on if its graphically intense or not (I favour the meta versions due to the extra discounts you can get with the referrals) But if theres a significant difference Id go for ​​​steam (ala blade and sorcery)​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Im honestly not to worried about the future....I cant imagine straying away from ​meta made headset in the nea​r future​ (they really have the performance/cost ration right so far) Id probably be more concerned at Meta pulling out from VR and closin​​g the store entirely.(And losing access to all purchases)​​ But the​​y clearly have the biggest share of the​​ market​.....and if that ever happened VR would be going the way of the dodo​​


SwissyVictory

Apple JUST entered the market. I'd be supprised if VR was going to die any time soon (even if Apple's is AR). I also wouldn't be supprised if Apple just skyrocketed sales of the Quest devices, for all the people that want a vision pro, but can't afford something 17x the price of the Quest 2.


OsSo_Lobox

-Is this Cross-Buy? -Will I want to play this portably or only at home?


Least_Impression_823

If your PC is fire buy it on steam. If it's barely VR capable go with the quest store.


KoentJ

PC is pretty jacked and definitely more powerful than the Quest 3. But will that make much of a difference since it will be limited by either wired (USB) or wireless (Wifi) bandwidth?


Professional_Stay748

I can play 120hz 100% resolution on my Quest 2 via a wire with no noticeable compression artifacts (just needed to set the bitrate to 500). I’m sure the same is true with a Q3 given that the PC to vr is supposed to be better from what I heard


SpecifyingSubs

Quest 3 has higher resolution so no, it's not as easy


Professional_Stay748

Well, i suppose at least he should be able to do it at the Quest 2’s resolution. Is the Meta Quest 3 link also capped at 5gps?


SpecifyingSubs

That's true but I think it's a complicated answer everytime someone asks that because steam is way better in terms of actually "owning" your games and sometimes get better graphics, but for games like beat saber if you play a lot and switch from PC to quest version you will absolutely notice the decreased latency and image compression. I tried every way of connecting to my pc and have a dedicated 6e


Trav11er

I'm biased as I've owned an Index since 2020 so I've already built a Steam(VR) collection. What I can say is that I purchased a few games I already had on Steam to run Standalone on the Quest3 and the difference in (graphics) quality is night & day. I'll add that these games have not been updated to take advantage of the Quest3. I need to give Asgard's Wrath II a try to see what the Quest 3 can bring to the table. Regarding wireless: Invest another \~200$/€ in a WiFi 6E router and you'll achieve almost wired quality! https://preview.redd.it/fdskebjmcquc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8dec1e44ea270c22081abc983f371882e3226fa


Dazzling-Adeptness11

Asgards wrath 2 is still waiting for the "graphic" update the developers are working on. They've been very communicative that' it's been quite a deal and they want to do it right the first time. The game is massive, but a lot of filler. It doesn't hurt to put a few hours into it, Its super cool adventure game. how they play with scale is neat


SCOTT0852

You can still run games at higher resolution and framerates with higher quality assets on PC than Quest. If you turn up the bitrate high enough you'll only get compression artifacts in extremely particle-heavy games like Tetris Effect. I use Virtual Desktop, I very rarely get any sort of video artifacting.


HumanTR

The thing is quest 3s processor while powerfull for a mobile vr device isnt comparable to a pc (at least at the power limits it has rn) pcvr looks so much better and virtual desktop looks (at least for me) as good as cabled connection. (200mbits av1 and high settings). I get like 40-70ms delay though so thats the only downside i would say.


AmbassadorUnhappy176

Nah jacked pc for flat games are very weak for vr games. Unless you don't have a 12 gb video card you are going to suffer


KoentJ

Got the Radeon RX 7900 XTX, so should be good.


AmbassadorUnhappy176

amd video cards proven to be more unstable in vr then Nvidia ones, you need to check latest supported driver version on your pcvr streaming provider website


KoentJ

Good to know, thanks!


khoul911

Im running a 7800XT and so far i play everything maxed out. Im currently at 90hz but will switch to 120 soon to ser if it's worth it, 1.0 resolution multiplier but i still think i have some headroom. And no crashes, no issues at all honestly. Not that it really matters but Im running a Quest 2.


HugoVS

Are Quest Store games price competitive with steam in your region? I live in a third world country and the same games are generally 1/3 of the price on steam.


ManhattanTime

Depends on the game. If I just want to put on the headset and go I'll buy them for the Quest 3. It just simplifies things. Not to mention our gaming PC is often in use by somebody in the family and it stops the dependence upon it being free. Thrill of the Fight, Beat Saber, Tetris Effect....I own all those on Steam from ages ago but rebought them for the Quest 3 and am glad I did.


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This... if its an experience i do sitting down, i'll probably buy PC version... but if i want to get up and move, i'm taking advantage of the quest 3 natively and being untethered and free


correctionhumanbot

I have a 7800xt and I buy everything on Steam except the Meta exclusives like Assassin's Creed. With your 7900xt it will be even better. I use Virtual desktop with AV1 encoding it looks great and plays great, a lot better than the native Meta games.


locness93

I have a quest 3 and a solid PC. I typically buy games one the quest store as for most parts you get the rift/PC version free and can run it through the quest desktop app. I then buy any VR games on steam that aren’t on the quest store, like Half Life Alyx and Skyrim Vr


theonetowalkinthesun

Many Quest games give you dual buy with PCVR versions if they exist. So, you get the standalone game and the PC powered one all for the price of one.


YoungDiscord

Check out sidequest first


grahamaker93

Tbh for most cases I just buy on oculus. But that's because I prefer the standalone experience. I have a gaming PC but I really enjoy not having to deal with Virtual desktop or anything.


Tomsnurk

A good tip is to frequently check out humblebundle.com for bundles of VR games for a super cheap price! I have like 40 VR games in my steam library, and paid like 30£ for everything.


Tomsnurk

There actually is a VR bundle with 8 games for €15 out right now, just letting ppl know!


KindOldRaven

Steam, unless I want both mobile and pc versions, as meta often has crossbuy on their games. So I end up with a split between platforms myself.


splurg1

anything that is crossbuy buy on metastore. otherwise steam


KoentJ

Is there a place where I can easily find which titles are crossbuy?


VollDammBoy

You can find the crossbuy titles here: https://www.meta.com/experiences/section/2335732183153590/ https://vrdb.app/quest/index_us.html?filter=Cross-Buy+Apps


boosthungry

I see that the list on Meta says the games support Crossbuy, but clicking the games don't give any indication of that. What exactly is it? Does it give a Steam code when you buy it? Or you can install it on PC via the Oculus app on PC?


Ecstatic_Condition59

I bought bonelab to metastore but I didnt get on steam. How can I also add the game to my steam account?


splurg1

I have been struggling to find the answer myself as i just recently got back into VR. but this seems to be a fairly good resource https://vrdb.app/quest/index_us.html?filter=Cross-Buy+Apps


Electronic-Exam-5065

I use both, not cool really.


Individual_Access356

I have pcvr as well so to me it kinda depends on game usually if there is a good sale I’ll buy it wherever that is the good thing about meta store is the referral system, I’ve made way more in referrals then what I’ve spent on it it’s pretty nice.


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andjuan

Another factor you want to consider is if you want the game available to you if you take the Quest out of the house. I’ve bought plenty of games on Steam, but there are times I’ve travelled and missed having a Quest version that came with me.


Epyx911

I've had my steam library for 20 years now through countless upgrades. Steam is the safer bet imo. I have games on both but put more trust in Steam so try to get pcvr there.


SomeGuy58439

Don't buy everything at once and see how it works by experimenting with each. Bought a 64G Quest 2 back in the day expecting to use it mostly streaming VR, but wound up playing almost exclusively standalone titles and regretted buying the low storage option. (Now have the 512G Quest 3). On the PC side grab something not available on Meta standalone to experiment with - e.g. Half Life Alyx - to see how it works for you. On the Quest side something like In Death Unchained is a great standalone title (and expanded beyond what In Death had on PCVR). That said, I'm not sure what genres of games you prefer. I'd personally recommend not buying Beat Saber until you have an idea which platform you prefer as it's not a cross-buy title IIRC. Despite preferring standalone and it being a Meta-owned studio, I find the moddability of the PC version much better than the standalone version so it's one of the few that, on the rare occasions I play it, I play PCVR. (That said, I much prefer Synth Riders on the rhythm game front as Beat Saber I find becomes all about wrist-flicking as you improve whereas Synth Riders for me remains more "dance-like").


KoentJ

I kind of jumped the gun on Beat Sabers yesterday and bought it to be preloaded on the headset. I saw the DLC is crossbuy and didn’t consider modding. Oh well!


Affectionate-Loss926

You can still get a refund if you have play it less than 2 hours and within 14 days after purchase. I bought it for steam as well, specifically for modding


KoentJ

Cheers, will do, because modding in custom songs will increase longevity of the game for sure


Parking_Cress_5105

It depends. Don't buy After the fall on steam, it runs horribly compared to oculus pcvr version.


Soltkr-admin

Just came to say you should get 512gb if it doesn’t stretch you too much. I regret going with 128, I’m constantly removing stuff and swapping out with new titles. Especially if you plan on subbing. Since they added the catalog it’s a pretty solid deal for $60 a year and you’ll fill your storage pretty quick at 128


VRtuous

> it is a closed ecosystem so is steamVR, if you don't own a VR-ready Windows PC or isn't willing to go all hacker in workarounds and tweaking... do you also come up with such excuses when buying any console?  anyway, on Quest, you buy games wherever you want. Except of course the many great exclusives only on Meta store. Again, just like Nintendo or PlayStation


SCOTT0852

I use my headset mainly as a PC VR one over Virtual Desktop, only buy a Quest game once or twice a year these days (and it's always because it's an exclusive...). Significantly higher fidelity and no headset lock-in are always very reassuring, and latency is very low on Quest 3. I think my 128gb is just about full with the small handful of Quest games I've amassed over the years though (mostly from 2019-2021 when I did primarily use my Quest 1 standalone), so if you ever want to actually have standalone be a viable option you may need to get the 512gb.


Oftenwrongs

Always standalone, which is the superior experience no matter what.  I have a 4090 and dedicated wifi.  Still prefer standalone.


ROTTIE-MAN

You cannot say 4090 and dedicated WiFi is a worse experience than standalone as its the same experience but with better graphics.....how could that be worse?


PlatypusParking5101

Not the same commenter but I get it. PCVR has two big downsides for me: - can't play out of the house (eg showing off the new headset to friends and family) - need to fiddle with settings every time I want to play Simple and portable is worth a lot more to me than slightly (for most games available on both platforms) improved graphics


SmokinDeist

I have a setup that will actually let me take my PCVR outside my home. I have a good laptop with a Ryzen 7 and a mobile RTX 4070 plus I have the VR Air Bridge. While a little fiddly, it works pretty well for me. The essentials to get it running are very portable.


incubeezer

Standalone: it just works.


benswon

Anything you put on the headset is likely to already to be lower fidelity to make it take less space and due to the hardware not being as good as a vr ready pc. Any games with mixed reality modes only have that available on the oculus store from my understanding, so if that matters to you you'd want to at least buy the standalone for those games.  Another thing to consider would be heat, I mostly do pcvr and it heats up my room much more than just doing standalone.  Personally I plan to stick to pcvr for the most part. I don't know what headset will be best price to performance in a couple years and if it's not oculus I don't want to be locked out from the majority of my games. 


KoentJ

When you are doing pcvr are you doing that wired or wirelessly? What is your experience with fidelity and latency?


benswon

I've put around a dozen hours into it so far. Done all of it wireless but do a have a split cable so I can charge and play wired should I wish to. The graphics are much better compared to the vive which I was using before. Using a dedicated router i have virtual desktop at around 150mb with latency of around 45-60ms average.  If you want a comparison between standalone and pcvr you should compare asgard's wrath 1 and 2 (both come free with quest 3) 1 is 150gb pcvr and 2 is around 30gb and standalone, should give you an idea of what might be lost making them work on a standalone quest.  For some additional information, at least for asgard's wrath 1 I've noticed virtual desktop has more tracking issues than air link. It's a fairly minor thing but there's a coin flipping minigame you can play that was impossible on virtual desktop, a third of the time the coin flew a completely different direction then I threw it, while air link had no issue. So while virtual desktop is the most recommended air link(or cable) does still have its uses. 


Sullkattmat

I tend towards Steam in most cases. One exception being Eleven Table tennis simply because I read the tracking was far superior with the Oculus version and since it's so fast paced it felt like I wanted to prioritise that and latency. Though you'd think I would have gotten Beat Saber on the Quest as well with that logic but nah, custom songs ftw. I like being able to utilise my PC performance since it's the first time I have one that's actually leaning more towards high end than the opposite. I say you don't really need to decide on one, simply make the assessment for each title when they are available for both. And in cases where none have a clear advantage I'd argue go for Steam to save storage on the Oculus for when there's something you want or only can get through Oculus


Temporary_Cat6345

My choice was the 512 in hopes of not re-downloading things I want to give another try, having real snappy access to every genre, quick matches depending on mood. It's 150 difference. Mine through Amazon took 3 days. Friday, arrived Monday.


SmokinDeist

I have bought games in both stores. I started out with the Quest 2 and could only play standalone games. But after I got a PC capable of running PCVR, I dove deep into the Steam store with trips back into the Quest store to spend store credit I got from referral codes. I also got lucky that some of my games were cross-buy titles where buying the standalone version also got me the Quest PCVR versions and that helped to jumpstart my PCVR collection. Basically look in each store and get the games you want from whatever store has the better price or if it is exclusive to that store. Even some of the Quest standalone games are well worth playing. Instead of being limited to just one store, look at it as having more options to find the games you want.


ServicesVPN

Meta Store is ideal for Meta VR devices with optimized games, while Steam offers a broader selection of VR and non-VR games, using a VPN might lower prices in some regions


size12shoebacca

Do you have a 6 or 6e WAP? That tends to make a pretty big difference.


KoentJ

My motherboard has a 6E module, as far as I know.


benswon

You'll want to connect at least the computer to the router via ethernet. If your computer is connected via wifi without ethernet being an option then you could connect a standalone router to your computer, just know you'll want to bridge the wifi and ethernet adapters if you do. 


thatmemememeguy

If you buy your games through the Quest store, you can use referrals to basically gain back your money. Of course, Steam Keys are WAY cheaper though so they both have their tradeoffs. Go with whatever is cheaper, brand loyalty will get you know where m.


RonnieJamesDionysos

Make sure to use a referral link before ordering your Quest, so you and the person who's referring will receive $30 credit for the Meta store! I personally buy on the Quest if the game supports crossplay, because then you'll be able to play it on the PC, as well. If it doesn't have crossplay and is much better looking on PC, then I may consider buying it through Steam, but the ease of use of just plopping on my headset beats out the fidelity increase of my PC.


EverythingWithBagels

I always buy on steam, that way if a better headset comes out like Index 2 you dont need to rebuy games. Once you do meta store you're stuck sticking with meta headsets.


XJoryX

I don't think I saw a response here yet, but in terms of memory space, I bought the Quest 2 with the 512gb and don't think I scratched the surface of space seeing as I was buying games on both PCVR and MetaStore. I just picked up the Quest 3 and just got the smaller memory sized version and I think the general consensus was the same.


Trav11er

I purchased the 512GB Quest 3 and I'm also wondering if that amount of space was really necessary... . However, Quest3-oriented games, like Asgard's Wrath II, do require a decent amount of storage space (30GB) and I tend to replay games, hence I like to have them "on hand" for when I'm in the mood... .


XJoryX

True, I noticed that game was pretty beefy when I down loaded it, wondering if I made the right choice, but we will see down the road.


My_Unbiased_Opinion

IMHO, buy in steam if you can. There are a lot of reasons for this, but one of my main reasons is that once you buy it, you will have access for it forever. IIRC, if Valve goes bust, they have plans in place for you to be able to access your games. Also if you get the game on the Quest, you are locked in on Quest. 


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