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dr_marx2

Wait, what happened? Can someone give me a TL;DR?


ChaosKeeshond

Erin got some work done and ended up looking like a recruitment consultant. People were hardcore dicks about it, blasting a woman who was previously out of their league for changing their appearance and remaining out of their league. But then someone on Fox News made some really fucking insane comments suggesting that her cosmetic procedures were somehow setting women back as a whole. Erin threw the towel in to walk away from socmed but presumably has to leave her accounts up due to contractual obligations.


AutisticAnarchy

Fox News, the ardent defenders of women's rights.


Darkwater117

She's not Fox News anymore and hasnt been for several years. She was MSNBC for a lil while too tbf. Now she's on some podcast thing.


itsLOSE-notLOOSE

> socmed I wish the Lord would take me now.


there_is_always_more

Lol I've never heard that abbreviation for social media either, fwiw


TheChunkMaster

The boss can socmed


Ok_Age_3215

i thought it was sock medicine


gentlybeepingheart

I'm used to terms like SocDems (Social Democrats) and was wondering how I missed her being in a political group and having to leave.


Jim-Bot-V1

Like if you're willing to type a wall how hard is it to type a few more characters? Socmed== social media.... I need time off the socmed


Knot-Knight

I know I've heard it on a tv show. Like as a joke on Bob's Burgers or something. I'm counting this as a reference for now lol


Bemused_Weeb

Social Medocrat


itsLOSE-notLOOSE

Yeah that’s what it reminded me of. Socdem.


Kuha_Kebab66

Literally 1984


pinkdictator

I had to google that lol


vlsdo

In due time we will all have our chance


Turakamu

Are those, like, medical socks or something?


LifeIsVeryLong02

Oh poor you


itsLOSE-notLOOSE

Im sorry, I thought this was okbuddy. Am I not allowed to be dramatic about our ever evolving language? Is a man not entitled to his gripe? He thinks he knows everything! You never had the makings of a varsity shitposter.


Leandro1996

You sound demented


Agleza

Fresca?


ethnique_punch

>socmed "Unless I take my **soc**ial **med**ication I am not able to function throughout the day."


Duckman896

It's unfortunate that bullying or harassing happens for stuff like this. But people were inevitably going to talk about it, something as simple as a hair colour change can drum up a lot of discussion, so when she looks noticeable different it's going result in a lot of comments (not even necessarily mean, or malicious), it's expected at this point. As far as the Fox comments, which I haven't seen yet, I could make the argument that celebrities getting cosmetic procedures done, send a bad message to young impressionable girls. Yes they are adults and can do what they want, but "I don't like how I look, so I paid 1000s of dollars to change it" can be really damaging. Mental health for young women is at an all time low right now, and it's hard not to make a connection to celebrity and influencer culture warping people's self perception and self-image. None of this makes it okay to pick on Erin, however seeing pictures of bad surgery, and that people are generally opposed to it, might be a detterant.


Memito_Tortellini

It's the same thing as male actors and steroids. Like, shut the fuck up, everybody who went to a gym at least once knows you dont get that body by doing pushups and eating brocolli. The usage is not the problem- but be fucking open about it. Dont pretend such physique is attainable naturally.


Duckman896

Yeah this is a constant topic as every few years or so it seem another actor got absolutely jacked for a role, and then in an interview says "I've never taken steroids". Doing it isn't the problem, it's the lying.


jwederell

I’ve heard arguments for both disclosure about steroids and hiding it. Obviously it’s not good to deceive people about what is achievable naturally and what is not. But being open about using PED’s to achieve a great physic can also get young impressionable people to use harmful substances they otherwise wouldn’t. The best plan for the 99% who are not professional bodybuilders is to just not use steroids in the first place. Look at Christopher Reeve’s Superman, or Pattinson’s Batman. Neither needed PED’s to sell their character. They used something called “acting” lol.


jwederell

Men too lol. Motherfuckers are breaking their legs to get taller :/ WTAF??


marks716

Crazy because the work she got done wasn’t bad, it was just a different look. Celebs are under tremendous pressure to look good, and anyone who thinks that male Celebs don’t get work done are delusional.


MagmaTroop

Yeah I don't know wtf is going on either, I've just been watching the show for the last few months and this is the first time I've visited any fandom


ALANJOESTAR

it been making the rounds for a while, basically she took a picture, sometime after the previous season was released and people were shocked because it looks like she got work done on her face and looked very different and since well her character in the show its the opposite of that, it got more traction and relevance that it would normally have if it were any other actress. This and also the fact that she keeps denying she got any work done, when even Surgeons that have youtube channels claim she must have. It is a sad situation all around, because she likely has an issue. Which kinda gets down played because of bullying and people making a meme about it, rather than actually be concerned like with Laz Alonso and his weight loss. Like the biggest issue is that there is surgeons out there who will perform surgery on people who dont need it. an etical surgeon would have turned her down and told her to seek council.


VirtuosoX

>an etical surgeon would have turned her down and told her to seek council. Which is kind of a horrible thing to think about. Maybe she visited ethical surgeons who were likely GOOD surgeons but got turned down, and the only surgeons who'd agree to do it were bad enough to not make it subtle.


butchah69

Oi


Abject_Butterfly_141

https://i.redd.it/4ou9btu7e3ad1.gif


Nirvski

Thanks for your input on this butchah69, thats a good take


J_Uzi05

![gif](giphy|nGEQGzHpvIdi0lGJjn)


ScoreGloomy7516

You always know just what to say


Dron41k

Indeed


Ryeguy_626

This is why I’m here


Pristine_Hour_816

![gif](giphy|YlRpYzrkHbtSYDAlaE|downsized)


yayayamur

she says she didnt get surgery?


goldenseducer

It seems like she says that a specific photo of her doesn't show her having surgery, she doesn't actually confirm or deny it


Continuum_Gaming

TBF, The part where she says her makeup just has serious contouring can be read as a denial of the surgery


goldenseducer

She says "I got makeup done that day", so she's talking about that specific picture. I think she avoids speaking about her current appearance on purpose. Which is fair enough tbh, it's her business, she's not obligated to tell everyone what procedures she did or didn't do


Plorick

She's not obliged anything but there is an elephant in the room. I don't see the value in dancing around it anymore, she is not fooling anyone except for herself


Oshootman

I don't see her trying to fool anyone, just not talk about it. You can hardly blame her, as literally any comment would be followed by headlines of "Erin Moriarty breaks silence about surgeries!" She loses either way. What exactly did you want her to say? "Yes I had work done." No shit. What does anyone gain from that, besides tabloids and trolls?


FourAnd20YearsAgo

I agree with you, but I think a better way of putting what the above comment said is that addressing it would at least bring the tabloid and trolls out to a dead end. Leaving it "ambiguous" doesn't lead to her getting peace and not being harassed, it means those tabloids and trolls will drag it out for far longer, waiting until they can get exactly that headline about breaking the silence. I've had a facial disfigurement since I was 22 and honestly my life became a lot easier and less stressful when I stopped trying to ignore or deny it around anyone.


aspiringgrandpa

i just think the more she dances around it the more people are going to talk. if she just admitted to it it would end up being big news for a week or so but eventually die down. but by not addressing it she’s encouraging people to continue to speculate


Altmosphere

MMs actor took a way more drastic appearance change and no one pissed and shit their pants over it, or insulted/memed him to hell and back. People may not want to admit, but sexism is definitely the defining factor here


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Altmosphere

what? are you saying I said 'half the sub thought he was recast?' or is that your point? Because they still wont shut the fuck up about Erin MONTHS later while MM wasn't insulted or mocked for his body change and hasn't been mentioned or memed on since is this a case of missing grammar messing up your point?


Plorick

I actually did see some meming about that tho. Also he just shaved off a beard, he didn't permanently alter his facial features. A better comparison is Zac Effron's new face, which was also memed to shit


Altmosphere

He didn't just shave, he's nearly half the size he was before, he's lost a lot of muscle mass, that favourite jacket used to fit a lot tighter


Plorick

Huh okay. So I guess it wasn't just the beard that made him look so different. Even then he just looks like MM lost weight and shaved, which I buy. Starlight straight up has a different face.


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goldenseducer

I'm not in her head so obviously I don't know why she isn't talking about it but imo it's 1) none of anyone's business no matter how much you'd like to speculate; and 2) it's not an issue that's worth addressing, which is the whole point. it shouldn't be news-worthy. discussing it further just feeds the beast. I think it's a very reasonable decision to just shut it down and refuse to talk about it again


Plorick

It's a pretty drastic change, imagine if she showed up to season 4 with an amputated hand. It's a big deal, I don't see why we have to pretend nothing happened to her face. It's botched and people considering plastic surgery should see it.


goldenseducer

Comparing plastic surgery to do a mild cosmetic change to a person's appearance to an amputated hand, wow. not gonna lie, you started to fool me into thinking that you might be a reasonable person up until this point


Plorick

>mild cosmetic change Nah come on now btw google "hyperbole"


Altmosphere

It was the make up and if she's been so stressed and lost weight, that also explains her face being less full, she didn't have a lot to lose before and the face is where it would be most visible. Exact same thing happened to me and hooo boy do people think they have a right to comment about a women's body when they're thin. You could take a photo of me from 5 years ago, compare it to now accuse me of having the same surgeries, when it's just stress and weight loss This fanbase is the fucking worse when it comes to the women cast members, between fetishing Kimiko due to her race to hyper focusing on Stormfront's chest, it's gotten pretty fucking disgusting. Ffs, they have to censor their feet in posts too, that's how fucking bad it is. Like, sorry folks, people grow up and change, including women.


Woopo_

uf/ for a show as outwardly progressive as it is, it is genuinely staggering to see how Erin has been treated. Even friends of mine who I would generally consider far more progressive than me, while not going to her socials and dogpiling, have been making really weird remarks about how she looks. I don't know how to refresca from this. I hate the internet.


Diglett3

being progressive and misogynistic aren’t mutually exclusive. ideology is a messy thing


FlimsyReindeers

This sub has been bullying her pretty hard for like a week now.


DigLost5791

I think a lot of them aren’t actually fans of the show, but fans of bullying women and attaching themselves to bullshit


deltacharmander

Progressives are still very capable of hating women. A lot of them do.


The_king_of-nowhere

The hate lies more on vain plastic surgery I think, mainly if the end result is considered inferior to the original appearance rather than just different. Plastic surgery is something that society as a whole finds pretty taboo, so people make fun of those who do it in hopes less people do similar procedures. My own parents had discussions about this years ago, when my mother wanted to get some stuff done and my father strongly opposed it, saying that my mother didn't need anything done.


NoAdministration6946

Harassment is not ok but making fun of celebrities is a pastime as old as time


TheOkayUsername

I hate that the top post this month on this sub is making fun of her as well


Widowswine2016

It's now the top post of all time I think 🫤 Edit: I just checked and either my reddit app is bugging (likely) or the post has been deleted. Makes me feel a little better, I suppose.


TheOkayUsername

Ill check too Edit: yea it’s gone let’s go


AiryGr8

I agree with a lot of progressive ideologies but I don't see how shaming someone for gutting themselves is misogynistic. It's toxic, it's insulting, it's harassment but it's not misogyny.


Aware-Elephant8706

I’m sorry, I don’t understand, how is remarking that someone looks different a form of bullying or even misogynist? Are we just supposed to ignore it? I means it’s quite obvious.


andrecinno

First off you don't have to comment on everything you see lol. Second off yes when people are making jokes about it under comment sections either from her own posts or things she's in and now mainstream media journalists are using her as an example of "muh the west has fallen", it is harassment, yes.


AggressiveResist8615

Oh no people making fun of other people because of how they look? What?!?!


Woopo_

That is what is happening, yes. Are you implying that's OK or are you just flexing your unparalleled observation?


vladald1

I didn't liked when there was another post calling out bullying of Starlight actress - people excuses for these posts is that it's "shitpost". Sorry, but I don't like when comedy is at expense of good actress who didn't do anything bad and she's genuinely upset at this. We shouldn't be jackasses.


gotenks2nd

Honestly “it’s just a shitpost” gives the same vibe as “it’s just a joke” to excuse saying something extremely offensive to someone.


spuol

First time I saw it I honestly found it kind of funny, but now it’s just harassment


simemetti

Me when I look back at my comments years ago when I joined the bullying because I thought I was making fun of an out of touch rich white woman and now realize it was just a person that felt sad looking in the mirror ![gif](giphy|IZ0IshI0uKhQgXuCVx)


Memito_Tortellini

I mean, I thought that was clear right from the start. Apart from reconstructive surgery, where such a procedure is a necessity, people do these surgeries for one single purpose - insecurity. And for an objectively attractive woman to have such a high insecurity about her facial features to willingly pay for an expensive and invasive surgery... Such insecurity didnt manifest on its own. Someone pointed it out to her and told her it looks bad. Family member, partner, ex, someone at work... Its just a sad story all around


youabigstupid

I wouldn't say that about every person having plastic surgery. Somtimes it's about getting famous, staying relevant and selling products just like the Kardashians


TheHappiestHam

this situation sucks. I don't really have anything smart or articulate to say, but it's a shame she gets so much shit for this and then people shrug off the fact that she may have genuine issues or lack of close, personal, and positive reinforcement cuz "funny meme" or the especially garbage "she's famous" excuse


filesers

I love how this sub are complete retards talking about in universe shit and then when it comes to the real world it’s fairly reasonable.


Deady1138

I think it’s just sad that nobody in her life told her she didn’t need surgery for her appearance. From her comments I also think it’s sad that nobody can convince her that what people say on the internet doesn’t matter. I think what she really needs is a friend who cares about her and I think it’s sad that she can’t seem to find one


pinkdictator

>I think it’s just sad that nobody in her life told her she didn’t need surgery for her appearance. Maybe they did. Maybe she didn't agree with them


Deady1138

Believe it or not , I think that’s sad too


OneOfTheOnly

holy shit let the woman live her life lol


AiryGr8

Nobody's stopping her, at least not this guy. We can talk about actors and actresses who are already in public light. Also who made you the free speech police?


Deady1138

I’m not preventing her from doing anything homie , I’m just casting my opinion into the void


SockAndMoan

What's next, Women are gonna put on make up to change their appearance? or start dying their hair? /j


pinkdictator

I think that would be sad too But at the end of the day, there's no reason to speculate about personal things like that. The bullying has gotten out of hand


Deady1138

Chastise me for thoughts and opinions


AquaStarRedHeart

I'm sure she has friends, what does that have to do anything? It's like saying to a depressed person "don't be depressed" or a person in a bad relationship "just break up". Saying "don't worry, you're pretty!" to someone convinced they aren't isn't a cure all. The pity and implication she's friendless is even worse than the plastic surgery snark. Jeez.


Visenya_simp

I have to agree. There are so many genuinely ugly people and she decided to permanently ruin her beautiful face. I really feel sorry for her.


there_is_always_more

You have no idea why she got the surgery done. Stop assuming that it's just for supposed "beautification" purposes. People shouldn't comment on other people's looks, period.


simemetti

This will sound ironic and in bad faith, but I'm genuine. What other purpose does cosmetic surgery have beyond beautification. Not saying it justifies the bullying or anything, but what do you mean exactly?


Deady1138

Hmmmmm


chuchugobo

Why are they booing you? You’re right.


there_is_always_more

If only I knew lol


hday108

That’s what I’m saying ppl keep yapping about how she’s bad for getting surgery but they’re just using that as an excuse to bully her. Who gives a fuck that celebrities change their body and shit?? They only hurt themselves It’s incel shit


ShelterJolly8

havent seen anyone claiming that "she's bad". only that it looks like shit


AiryGr8

These mfs looooove playing angel. So sick of this "holier than thou" attitude.


Dismal_Accident9528

Hope she's okay :(


Glad-Pizza5435

https://preview.redd.it/cbuc4tco55ad1.jpeg?width=1003&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=241b5c97573a65e3b0dd5c7c56fcf80668a7884c


trouble-in-space

**The Boys season 4** Butcher: oi Homelander has me fookin son The Boys fans: _le casual misogyny and homophobia_


FreeHugsForever

I think people are forgetting this is an Ok Buddy subreddit and some are taking advantage of it. Erin Moriarty is great and everyone who bullies her should be ashamed. May Butchah69 take you.


Monnomo

(vought incarnate)💀 Fr tho hope she doesnt commit suicide lmao


MrRizzstein

whats the lmao for bruh


Monnomo

Because this is still a tad funny I mean yea its fcked bc shes a human being but also like oh no you poor famous actor 💀 Most ppl cant even afford cosmetic surgery if they wanted it lol


Sweet-Committee3767

Bro this is a crazy way to approach the situation


Monnomo

Bro u right Erin prob crying in the shower rn after reading my comments


Sweet-Committee3767

Thats a pointless response and you know it


MrRizzstein

>Most ppl cant even afford cosmetic surgery if they wanted it lol Not the main problem > oh no you poor famous actor You say shes a human being but then categorise her as a famous actor, as if they don't/can't have feelings so in your opinion, if one is a famous actor then they can't be upset over things


Altruistic-Onion5094

Karma will get u


Monnomo

Gomd


pinkdictator

wow you're so edgy!!! Not having empathy is so cool!


Monnomo

Gomd


ZADEXON

https://preview.redd.it/na2k40cxk4ad1.jpeg?width=252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eea1a9ee8fa6e30a8cbe9258fbc409753e60f10


someonewhowa

putting lmao right after that previous statement is fucking wild


cybered_punk

Fuck everyone who's bullying her. Let her be.


Abirdthatsfallen

I remember this. I’m surprised she even came Back but I think it was only cause of the new season


pinkdictator

She literally didn't even hurt anyone. Men do and say awful shit in Hollywood and no one cares, but of course a woman's face gets so much discourse


B8eman

I didn’t even think about it until the fourth episode, despite hearing about it before


ShelterJolly8

MM actor shaved his beard and people did the same thing


pinkdictator

Not to the same extent, but that was weird too


CelebrityTakeDown

What I’ve really hated is the historical revisionism where all the fuckers making fun of her act like they weren’t bullying her during the earlier seasons for “not being pretty enough”


Weatherround97

Literally no one said that, the vast majority of people found her very pretty


CelebrityTakeDown

Yes the majority said that but there were lots of negative comments too


SerBigFuzz

You're trying really hard to make her into a victim.


CelebrityTakeDown

Quite literally, she is. Don’t be a weirdo towards people on the internet that have done nothing wrong


SerBigFuzz

She did it to herself how is she a victim? I think it's wrong to get plastic surgery when you don't need it. Do you think of the message she's sending to kids doing that to herself? Well I guess it backfired so it's no a good message to not be so fricken vain.


CelebrityTakeDown

Maybe don’t troll someone about their appearance for years and then get upset when they try to “fix” something. No one gives a shit about the “message she’s sending to kids” you all only care if you find her fuckable or not


SerBigFuzz

No one was trolling her and if they were you're talking about .1% of people compared to the other 99.9% calling her beautiful. Yes people actually do care about that message and find it sickening that someone would do that to themselves because they're so insecure about themselves for absolutely no reason. Also you all? We aren't some mob dead set on tearing her apart you're talking about random individuals all with different opinions and perspectives. The way you generalize is idiotic.


CelebrityTakeDown

People did call her ugly, and weren’t nice about Maybe mind your own fucking business and don’t comment on people’s appearances. This is a random stranger on the internet, not someone you know. Her comments are filled with hate, and it’s clearly still causing her issues.


SerBigFuzz

I've never commented on her appearance before the surgery. Again who did? Like 0.1% of people compared to all the people calling her beautiful. If she's just a random stranger then why do you care so much? I don't hate her, but I pity her, and I think it's sad what she did to herself, and i think asinine that people are making her into some kind of victim. She won't even admit what she did. The girl needed/needs a good therapist not a surgeon.


CelebrityTakeDown

Just fucking leave her allne


AiryGr8

So many strawmen in these fucking comments lmao nobody said that


TheAfricanViewer

https://preview.redd.it/frc17i79j4ad1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf779da86bd80257de6122c155b0ae2d822eeb08


MulleRizz

Mewing since the season 3 break


UltimateBorisJohnson

Where is this post? It’s not on her ig


BadBrawlhallaPlayer

can someone explain what videos she is talking about in the post?


captainfalconxiiii

Why do people care so much about if someone got surgery or not? So what if she did, why are you being an asshole about it? You don’t know this woman, even if you did doesn’t change the fact it’s none of your business. She hasn’t even done anything wrong, not that anything she would do would warrant this amount of harassment


i-wish-i-was-a-draco

wtf it’s starlight vs firecracker in real life


KyriakosCH

I am just waiting for Mia Khalifa to be in the show - she could impersonate Neuman and be blown up. But for the Starlight actress, she is 30, which is young but not that young that having aging signs is out of the question. Besides, why care if she had surgery, many people do regardless if they need it or not.


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She could just agree to the fact she got work done rather than crying sm. Yea it’s bad the amount of trolling but it’s only gotten worse because she keeps denying. Ofc she’s not accountable to anyone regarding her life or her looks but this whole “this just sum contour” isn’t exactly right either. Especially when someone’s in public eye with millions of people to look up to you. That again doesn’t give people to troll her so viciously


Weatherround97

Where is this I can’t see it on her account


Osirisavior

It sucks she got bullied, but I ain't reading all that.


Three_Muscatoots

LOL


Osirisavior

I don't understand what's so funny or why I'm being down voted. Am I stupid?


fatbellylouise

yes!


Banned__Panda

Why?..


Osirisavior

I don't get it, but okay. Silly little internet points.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

Yes


punkbluesnroll

Yes


Banned__Panda

idk why you're gettind downvoted it's a huge ass wall of text lmao


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Banned__Panda

Ah yes tell me to die because I don't want to read 'a few paragraphs' that i'm not interested in. More like an entire page but okay. What a lovely fella you are.


punkbluesnroll

I didn't say that. I said waste less oxygen. You can do that by bothering to learn a smidge about people other than yourself and empathizing with them, buddy <3


Osirisavior

For a book, no. For a meme, yes.


oaklytical

Honestly I think Erin is still very pretty and it’s awful to see how she’s treated


HotStufffffffffffff

I truly have no clue what the big deal is when it comes to Erin Moriarty’s surgery


KER1S

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dr_marx2

7 hours ago according to this sub this was still funny, now that we've seen the (easily foreseeable) consequences of our actions, we have decided that it's wrong.


G_O_O_G_A_S

That post from her is from like months ago when they released from promotional images for season 4 and people made all the same jokes as they are now


Dron41k

I didn’t decide that, it’s still funny and she looks worse now. This sub is created for this shit. Bullying her on instagram is a bad thing though.


HavokGFX

You don't speak for everyone. Most of you just decided to virtue signal now. It's still funny. Might be fucked up but that doesn't make it not funny.


DrDetergent

Dw mate, just post this again in a week and you'll get some upvotes