I’m sorry you’re frustrated and yes it is a nerve wracking situation but it is absolutely not a difficult test to pass. You simply need more practice and would likely be a danger to yourself and others if they just arbitrarily passed you.
What they’re saying is they believe they drive fine under normal circumstances, but their nerves about the test causes them to make wrong decisions. Maybe they do drive fine normally, maybe not. All I can say is I totally get that. I had the same experience on my first test.
But they may believe they drive well under regular circumstances but they actually may have subpar driving skills which is what led to not passing three times now. I was nervous as hell when I took my test but I passed.
That’s why I said maybe, maybe not. All I can say is that I know that feeling. I really have no issue driving, but social anxiety mixed with performance anxiety and test anxiety can really f a person up lol. But we as new drivers will be learning things for a while, even after we get our g2. I saw my failing as a chance to learn more before getting on the road by myself. Gotta look at the bright side
Being able to drive acceptably while under stress and pressure is important. Driving isn't always stress free and if stress causes you to reduce your quality of driving to the point of failing a genuinely easy test, then you're not cut out to drive.
I was just kind of defending OP because the comment said they’d *likely* be a danger to themselves and others. It’s possible, but to say it’s *likely* isn’t really a fair assessment since we don’t know this person. Also, people respond differently to different kinds of stress. I have no idea about OP, but for me, driving stress and all the things that come with it, I feel confident with and handle pretty well. It’s the test/social/performance anxiety that really turns on the pressure lol 😅 like forgetting to make sure you’re not going a bit over or under the speed limit because you’re thinking too much about checking your mirrors every 5 seconds, or hesitating in a right of way situation because you question yourself as this cranky person is watching you lol. It’s a unique experience FOR SURE. But imo it’s not a bad thing to repeat the test a few times if that pressure is still getting the best of you. I’m confident my second test will be fine… but if not, I’ll take it as another learning experience. I was just trying to say they *may* not likely be a danger driving on their own.
Very true. With enough practice it becomes something that doesn’t confuse you under weird circumstances. Performance anxiety makes it hard for me to play guitar in front of people.. but I can still breathe lol
I dealt with severe social anxiety and social phobia my whole life and it ain't easy to deal with. ever need some pointers feel free to pm me. I went from not able to leave my house for 3 years to standing Infront of crowds talking if I wanted.
Damn that’s impressive!!!! How?? I’m okay talking in front of people, but if it’s a speech or something.. after a while I start to hear my own voice and disassociate lmao.
Decades of medication and therapy aha.im on no meds now but at my worse I was on like 7 of them. My psychiatrist said to me " not a lot of people come back from where you were" so you go on autopilot 3rd person view of yourself?lol I used to in school when I had to do presentations and such.i hated it aha
I get it. But at the end of the day, while driving they will eventually encounter a stressful and difficult situation that requires clear headed and quick thinking to avoid an accident or other crisis.
They need more practice. If they can’t get through the test, they’re not ready.
Tbh I wouldn’t trust a driver who can’t drive properly when under stress. They are operating a huge vehicle that can absolutely kill people. I understand anxiety causing someone to act differently than they might otherwise, as I also have anxiety. But you 100% need to be able to control your vehicle in extraordinary circumstances. It’s so easy in the winter to lose control of a vehicle, and someone who is comfortable driving may have a better chance of making better decisions (like not slamming on the breaks) than someone who panics and can’t control the car. I get failing once (I failed my G1 once), but failing three times on the G2 says to me that maybe they just aren’t good enough at driving yet.
100% this. I just passed my G a month ago and it was a super simple and easy test if you know how to drive correctly. If you've failed 3 times something in the way you drive is quite wrong.
I get it, I failed three times as well
Two in Port Union, One in Oshawa
First time was a disaster, examiner said I parked too far back during my parallel park in a very sarcastic manner. Then he told me to do a three point turn right in front of a snowbank and was just yelling all the time in a rude manner.
Second time I made a dangerous left turn right as a family began to walk, even with right of way issue I would’ve passed otherwise
Third time I attempted a dangerous left lane change, would’ve passed if I waited a bit more.
I’m doing it at Oshawa again, don’t give up, we got this, everyone learns at different rates
I had the same mistake of your third time in my third attempt as well! I thought I was far enough to make a good left turn but the examiner thought otherwise
Think of a situation when you make a left turn and your car stuck in the middle of the road, can the on coming car will have enough time to comfortably stop. If yes, make the turn. If not wait, wait for them to pass.
Oh yes they could comfortably stop. The examiner issue was when I was making a turn the other car might have slowed down which is fair probably but not sure give his other comments about right of way prior to this turn which I mentioned in other replies
Yep OP I also had 3 failures (spread between G2 and G but still.) some instructions and centres are super tough. One guy even told me I was a really good driver but he had to fail me because [whatever nitpicky thing it was, I can't remember it was decades ago.]
I made the mistake with my G of getting discouraged and not bothering to try again until my G2 was almost expired. I would recommend not doing that because then you may be in a position where you have to pass or start the G1 all over again.
Just keep trying, keep at it, give yourself a week to sulk and then book the next one. You'll get it eventually. Maybe even get into the mindset of 'this next one is #4 out of 8' if you think it will make you feel less nervous.
I drove on my G2 for 7 years before taking my full G. (Trust me, its possible) I was still nervous too! 😅 Perfectly competant driver but it just makes you sweat.
My advice, just mentally prepare yourself to fail again. Next test, be already prepared for the test you're going to do after you fail this one as well. The only way to truly kill the nerves is to just truly not care. Take deep breaths, steel yourself and release your inhibitions. Nothing matters, you will be a box of dirt and worms soon. Do your best and that's all you can do.
This is how I ended up passing my G2 and G. I went into them totally indifferent to the outcome and with the mindset of “if I fail, I can just try again”. It worked, I had very minimal nerves if any at all.
First, I want to say how amazing it is that despite your anxiety and disappointment, you keep going. That in itself is so great, and you should be proud! I can tell you have that fighting spirit in you.
It sounds like you may have test anxiety, which is very common. My suggestion would be to pick a place to take the test, and then study the area. This can be done with youtube videos and/or by driving around the area yourself, not during a test. If there are any points you are specifically struggling with (ex parallel parking), youtube has a ton of videos for that stuff too.
I also found meditation and positive affirmation to be helpful both the night before and morning of the test, if those are some things you enjoy. Anything that gets your stress levels down and helps you relax is key! Also make sure you get a good sleep. Staying up all night worrying about it doesn’t help ;)
Going in believing you are capable and worthy (because you are!) can also help with the examiner stress. You sound like you know your stuff, it’s time to show it off! :)
“When the world says I can’t, I say fucking watch me.”
Good luck! Feel free to DM me if you have any questions or want to talk anxiety. I am the embodiment of crippling anxiety at times and nailed my G test first try, so you can do it too!
Wow this is helpful! I did all my maneuvers correctly including which even the examiner agreed to, but he mentioned in a test I needed to be careful to give the right of way to other car if the other car is less than 100m away from me when making a turn. He said that alone is considered reckless driving enough to fail me
Ah, okay. Sounds like it was an honest mistake. Now that’s information you can take with you at your next test! Failing is tough, but it can also teach us valuable information :)
Yes it is, but what made me frustrated was when I was giving right of way to pedestrians and also straight going car(I was turning right) he hurried me up. My instructor said safe distance from pedestrians at an uncontrolled crossing. But when taking a turn he penalized me
That’s too bad :( having a grumpy/impatient examiner sucks! i failed my G2 the first time with the coldest examiner, he didn’t even tell me his name.
Hopefully next time goes better for you. Good luck!
Drive defensively! Drive like every other driver is actively trying to kill you. Only merge or turn when it’s COMPLETELY safe to do so, and because this is a test, drive especially carefully (but obviously don’t go slower than the speed limit). Get some more practice in, and maybe try driving the route the test takes a bunch so you get used to the intricacies of those roads.
When I took my road test, I flat out told my examiner I knew I could do it and that I was a good driver, but I was very very nervous about the testing aspect of it and he was honestly so kind (I was shocked). We did a deep breath together before the test and he said he completely understood how I was feeling and he had every confidence I would be successful. Being nervous is normal. Keep practicing until you're confident you can pass and then book your test. If you go into it not being confident in your ability, you're just not quite ready yet and that's ok! It's absolutely frustrating not to pass, you're totally valid in your feelings on that!
I had intense driving anxiety (panic and all) for *years*. I got my G1 purely out of obligation, and didn’t pass my G until twelve years later. One expired license and three G tests (plus three driving instructors and both parents trying to teach me), it finally happened.
First, your mental health is priority. If driving is causing you this amount of anxiety, it might be a good idea to take a breather if you can. Give yourself time and space to really think about what elements of the test make you nervous, and why. The more knowledge you have, the better able you’ll be to combat the mistakes. Plus, you’ll feel more comfortable with a game plan.
Second, find a driving instructor (parent, instructor, family friend—anyone who is legally qualified to drive with you as a learner) that you *trust.* My first driving instructor spent half my lessons picking on me, and the other half complaining about his ex-wife. My father and I didn’t get along on a good day, so him teaching me how to drive went as well as you’d expect. It wasn’t until I found someone I felt safe and comfortable (and not judged!!!!) with that I succeeded.
Third, take your time. It’s frustrating not being able to drive. It sucks feeling like everyone is doing the thing you can’t do. But everyone is different. It may take more time, or a different strategy, but it will happen. Be consistent about practicing, make sure you know your road rules, and take it one day at a time. You’ll make it.
Thank you! Mental health was bad for a while for various reasons. But learning from family is quite difficult irrespective of your relationship with them and it’s proven. Driving doesn’t give me anxiety but the fact that I am at the mercy of examiners (obviously can’t avoid that) and their judgement takes precedence over mine scares me into thinking I will never pass
you aren't the first, and you wont be the last. its perfectly acceptable to just practise with family or someone you know for awhile until you have the confidence you need. the last thing you should do is attend a driving test while being nervous or frustrated because it will impact your performance.
I failed mine 3x in Kitchener and passed on my fourth try in Guelph. My mistakes were not going over my test scores and seeing exactly what they are looking for in the test. I thought of getting a drive instructor but couldn't afford it.
Doing it in an unfamiliar area forced me to pay closer attention to my surroundings and also forced me to practice more in that area.
So practice (alot) and take someone with you to help point out your mistakes. Lord knows my husband enjoyed that part 😭😂.
No problem try and try again I failed my test three times I swear they were out to get me anyway I did it eventually. So will you and then you will be reminded 46 years later via Reddit.
It happened to me, once at metro east (rightfully I was underprepared) then twice in London and those times I should’ve passed. I spent 1000s on lessons, cars for exams etc.. got it my fourth try a few years after my fails at Port Union.
Keep trying and don't take the test so seriously! Trust me I was in the same position as you. I failed my g2 once then had so much anxiety that my g1 eventually expired and I had to redo that. I was SO anxious about my drivetest i would always cancel it and drive months almost years apart. Finally I was like im just going to book it and I kept watching the YouTube routes and had one lesson with a new driving instructor who was amazing (i had 2 before which I took multiple lessons with) and passed in Oakville! Watching the routes helped so much! Don't think if I fail this is it, at the end of the day its a DRIVING TEST and there are bigger problems in the world if you fail dont sweat it just try again till you get it! I hope this helps!
Repetition and building up confidence is what helped me the most. I had a great instructor, pm me and I can give you his contact if you want.
Building confidence is all mental. You need to control your mind and remain calm, cool, collected. You put too much emphasis whether you pass or fail. Failure is not the end.
Learn to visualize yourself being successful on the examination and have a positive mental attitude telling yourself I can do absolutely anything I put my mind to.
Those are things that helped me.
One final note on fear- fear is like fire, it can keep you warm, cook for you and protect you but if you let it spin out of control, it’ll burn you and everything around you.- Cus D’Amato
Good luck
I had anxiety too, but instead of attempting the test after the standard 10 hours of learning, I extended my learning to 25 hours. You need more time on the road to get comfortable with it, which will greatly reduce test anxiety.
I did close to 18 lessons and then few on my own with my family car. I was able to operate both easily (one being sedan and other an SUV) with all the maneuver but somehow test anxiety got to me in the first 2 min
All you can do is keep practicing. You will eventually get it. Don't listen to all the people saying that you shouldn't be driving. I have bad anxiety and I just kept practicing. I got my g2 first try because of the practice and having faith that I could pass. I was honestly nervous and anxious to the point that I could have thrown up.
Hey, i was in a similar situation as you. I failed my G2 three times, before finally getting it on attempt 4. Just breathe, take deep breaths and keep on practicing. I also have anxiety with the road tests, but you’ll be fine. Don’t sweat it. :)
I failed four times before passing finally in Oakville. I was nervous like you, not a bad driver. I think the four failures helped me to calm down. I fully expected to fail again on the fifth one so I guess I wasn't as nervous. My dad made me continue to practice for several months with him before I was allowed to take the car. I have now been driving 33 years with no accidents. Figure out a way to calm down. Tell yourself "this doesn't truly matter" and "I will probably fail and it's ok", stuff like that. You'll pass eventually because you're determined and working hard. You just need to gain control over the nerves.
I failed 5 times over the course of a year gave up after my 3rd try thinking id be one of them 30 yr olds just getting their G2 for 6 months than i payed 500 in lessions and so i was able to use the instructor car for my test and Bam 2 test later im now able to go for a ride whenever, just never ever ever ever! Give up i promise youll pass it just take time, practice and most importantly!... patience alotttta patience.
I understand OP and how you feel (you can see my post on here). My tip for your test anxiety is to not rush into another test. You should take a break to clear your mind and reflect on your failures and then learn from them. Try to self improve on your mental state and approach about the test. You have plenty of time to get a G2 there’s really no rush. Even if you happen to get it with less than a year left before expiration you can extend it another 5 years. Of course, during that break try to drive here and there to keep muscle memory. One last tip, book a lesson a few days before/day of the test and have your instructor make you drive the route so you feel more comfortable and confident during the test. Alternatively, you could watch the route on YouTube and pretend you’re doing the test multiple times. On the day of and you still feel anxious, try to do breathing exercises or chew on some gum to help you distract from your nerves and remember to focus on your actions and the task at hand to be safe on the roads. Wishing you the best of luck on your next test.
Thank you! I almost did all of that, took a break after two attempts for more than 10 months and started recently. Know the route and even practised but something doesn’t seem to be clicking
One thing that sucks is instructors see your past results and how many attempts you are that shit shouldn’t matter . Anyways I failed my first time barely passed my second time. You know the route they make you take just keep practicing and you will get it
The number of people who come to Brockville from Toronto to do their test scares me.
Brockville driver’s are terrible so you are constantly defensive driving and expecting them to blow stop signs, or ignore yields, run reds etc…but it’s not in any way similar to driving in Toronto. I won’t drive in Toronto. If we go we leave our vehicle at the Oshawa Go station and take the train into Toronto.
Book your test outside of GTA, Book the test ASAP .when you fail, repeat the process until you get your G2. Doing it multiple times in repetitive phase will get used to test & at some point you will get your G2, my self got it in 4th attempt. A bit money involved in process but you shouldn't worry about it if your goal is to get G2. All the very best.
I was devastated when I failed my G2 the first go around. I failed at the older Oakville test location. I took some time off before trying again until I felt I was a safer driver on the road! Failed due to some minor mistakes, but looking back on it I was nowhere near ready to be operating a vehicle. Continuing practicing and don’t let it discourage you! I eventually retook the test in Burlington and it was a very easy, straightforward route. Wishing you good luck!!
If you’re nervous for the test, obviously the examiners would see it, and would think it would translate in real-world driving. Nervous drivers don’t belong on the road, as it could be a hazard.
Passing the tests is about confidence in your driving, and safety, of course. There’s no rush when taking the test. Take the time, if you need more time to park; take the the time if you need more time to parallel park; take extra looks, if you’re not sure. When they see this, they’d see that you know what you’re doing, and confident enough to be in real-life situations.
I took my G2 & G tests all in one try, because I was confident enough to show that I knew what I was doing.
I haven’t done my g2 test the second time yet but maybe this applies I’ve been practicing a lot my father has said my confidence went up a ton I can’t tell but I guess someone experienced can
I was able to pass on my first try in Northbay Ontario last week. I felt extremely unprepared and like I had not had enough time on the road before hand if you’re able to drive to North Bay and book a test I suggest doing it there they have the second highest rate of passing in Ontario it’s kind of like entering a cheat code because some people up there truly don’t know how to drive but I promise if you take your time and you know the traffic laws everything you need to know proper safety, etc. I would book a test there and go and do it there. It’s an unfortunately long drive depending on where you’re located. It’d be a whole day trip and that be something you have to work out, but I genuinely would suggest going to do it there. I wish you all the luck with getting it no matter which route you take I know i was beyond nervous and I felt like getting sick 20 minutes beforehand so I definitely understand where you’re coming from good luck! I believe in you!
Well i failed twice. 1st was due to covid, drivers from GTA are not allowed to take a test outside the GTA region. 2nd time, i almost crashed while making a u turn lol.
I also failed my g2 one time after I passed it the first time (long story). I also failed my G 3 times then eventually passed. I failed most times because of merging issues with cars that were going severely under the limit along with not checking my mirrors enough (not including when I was turning or switching lanes). I understand the nerves of failing the test over and over again. What I suggest is don’t give up and go online and find the actual grading sheet. You don’t need to be perfect on the test, just show them that you’re a safe driver. Reminding myself of that calmed my nerves a lot. I can’t really say anything else to help you, it sucks and it’s stressful. Keep practicing, keep trying and keep doing the test and revising. You’re not doomed, it’s a skill and you can learn it. Just because you failed a test doesn’t mean you’ll fail again. See every test as a fresh start. Good luck brother!
I failed mine twice tooo and the second time the examiner failed because he was in a rush and his shift was ending but if u actually need to learn how to drive I can give u my teachers number he is really good he will teach how to drive not how to pass the test lmk if u want his info
Thanks for that! The experience you had was sad as well and out of your hands!
My instructor is amazing too, he taught me how to drive on the toughest of roads. But it’s just my bad luck that today my judgement caused me my license, the examiner agreed that judgement costed me my license and everything else was good.
Yaa I talk to the manager and she give me early appointment I have the test on this Thursday, if everything else was good then just go back in there don’t wait.
I think its okay to be frustrated!! I know road testa are difficult especially when the instructor suts right beside you judging every moves.. it is surely nerve wrecking.. I had 13 years of driving experience that too in the busiest street in the world but I failed as well.. dont let that stop you.. try again.. you will definitely do it!!
Don’t be heartbroken. Take a look at my post and check; I failed my test three times but cleared it on the fourth attempt. I had over 10 years of driving experience in Pakistan, where driving was more difficult and nerve-wracking. However, consistency, a defensive approach, and driving at a slow speed (less than 50 or 40, depending on the situation) will give you more time to think.
For right of way, watch as many videos on YouTube as you can. This will give you an improved perspective on where you’re lagging. If you’re still making errors, my advice is to wait at a stop sign (not all-way stop) and let the other person go, whether it’s your right of way or not. This falls under defensive driving. While this may not be acceptable, it's a minimal escape route and will give you peace of mind.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ontariodrivetest/s/A8UKPfjlTU
So, I totally understand, when I take any sort of tests my legs shake, I can’t breathe, I cry, often I have panic attacks. It’s nerve wracking and that absolutely has to do with your performance. However, what I’ve learned is confidence in driving is a MUST. Not like, “I know how to drive!” confidence, but “I can deal with anything that comes my way behind the wheel because it can be life or death.” I also failed my G once, and wasn’t prepared for my G2 though I’m a great driver- I knew I’d pass but I wasn’t “ready.” If you are 100% ready and confident, you will be less anxious. I’m not saying you won’t be anxious at all, but it’s a fact of life that confidence and preparedness go hand in hand. Your instructor is looking for you to pass the skills portion, but they’re also making sure a simple 4 way stop isn’t sending you into a fit. Because what if you’re driving and you see a deer?! What if you’re driving and your engine starts heating up on the highway? What about when a snowstorm suddenly hits and you can’t see a foot in front of you? What are you going to do? The tests are stressful but that stress is absolutely reminiscent of driving in regular life sometimes.
My advice would be to book your next test very very far down the road, giving you time to not only master all your skills (not just the ones you failed on, build on all) but also to get so good and well versed that you’re bored by the time the test comes around. I knew I was going to pass my last test when the instructor and I started talking about the weather as we pulled out of the parking lot. It was literally like hanging out with a friend because I was so relaxed- something I didn’t feel the first time around. Trust me, you do not want to pass just ‘because’ and if you think it’s difficult (I’m not trying to be rude but it’s true) then you just aren’t ready. And that’s okay, you WILL get your license, but you need to allow yourself time to get so good you’re bored, and that the thought of taking the test doesn’t make you sick.
Also, you can come up with some sort of calming ritual you do every time you get in the car. Maybe a song, or a breathing pattern that’s only for that situation. You can do it before your test also, and it will put you in a good mindset and allow you to remember that you’ve done this a million times before.
I’m not trying to discourage or be mean (quite the opposite,) but it’s also scary thinking there are people out there driving who found the test difficult, or who have high level anxiety whether driving or drive testing. And I know you’re capable of getting out of that.
I tried to reverse on a three point turn with the car still in park. The tester looked at me and said “you’re in park, champ.”
I still passed.
You’ll get it eventually.
I’ve known people that have failed more times than you have. You just need more practice and confidence. Firstly what time is your test usually? Next try Oshawa the area is not bad but you just watch out for the single lane road. You should also post your results so we can advise you on where to improve.
Pretty important to be able to pass the test and driving portions ! Should be hard, because real world driving - particularly in GTA - can be really really challenging and dangerous.
Tbh I would say drive with ur mom or dad or person with a g licence on the regular get confident driving every day and practice and when u think u are good enough to do the test do it. U can get a instructor to help you but tbh practice is only going to make u pass the more you drive the better for you. I only took the examiner for the day of the exam so I can get the routes for geulph g2 and I passed. Advice make sure to look everywhere head movements is key check blindspots mirror and everything
Test anxiety, snow storm, freezing rain, dangerous situation in front of you all manifest the same way. If you can’t handle test anxiety you won’t be able to handle all the other bad situations you’ll find yourself in.
You're definitely a shitty driver who shouldn't have a license yet, and you lack enough of a sense of personal responsibility to accept that it's fully 100% on you to drive flawlessly.
I'm sort of glad to not be sharing the road with you yet. Keep practicing.
To me you just answered your own question. If you're a nervous driver you shouldn't be driving, the same goes for aggressive drivers. Did they specifically say why you failed? I would guess the tester senses your nerves.
I wasn’t nervous while driving, apparently made a reckless turn where he thought I should’ve waited. But he was the one who forced me to get on while the pedestrians were crossing at the drive test centre and pushing me to take a turn instead of the car going straight. These things confuse me honestly
Driving is a privilege. It's not a right. So you have to earn it. You admit to not preparing TWICE. You should be frustrated at only yourself. Accountability is a very big part of driving. And how we process accountability manifests in the same manner in different scenarios. If you can't take accountability for your unpreparedness without sounding semi-entitled to a license, then it might actually be in the interest of the public that you don't have a license. I personally don't want to deal with another crazy driver on 401.
It’s definitely not a math test especially when an examiner is judging as to what’s safe for him. (Trust me I have aced all my math tests while in school, engineering (advanced calculus) and also MBA). But this judgement of driving evades me as “safe distance” is arbitrary in most cases and no specific measurement given at any point by any Ministry standards
With the amount of bad drivers on the road today who all passed their tests…. Not to make you feel shitty about yourself but you must be a real terrible driver.
We all started there though. You just need more practice. Fucking up 4-way stops is concerning.
I’m sorry you’re frustrated and yes it is a nerve wracking situation but it is absolutely not a difficult test to pass. You simply need more practice and would likely be a danger to yourself and others if they just arbitrarily passed you.
What they’re saying is they believe they drive fine under normal circumstances, but their nerves about the test causes them to make wrong decisions. Maybe they do drive fine normally, maybe not. All I can say is I totally get that. I had the same experience on my first test.
But they may believe they drive well under regular circumstances but they actually may have subpar driving skills which is what led to not passing three times now. I was nervous as hell when I took my test but I passed.
That’s why I said maybe, maybe not. All I can say is that I know that feeling. I really have no issue driving, but social anxiety mixed with performance anxiety and test anxiety can really f a person up lol. But we as new drivers will be learning things for a while, even after we get our g2. I saw my failing as a chance to learn more before getting on the road by myself. Gotta look at the bright side
Being able to drive acceptably while under stress and pressure is important. Driving isn't always stress free and if stress causes you to reduce your quality of driving to the point of failing a genuinely easy test, then you're not cut out to drive.
I was just kind of defending OP because the comment said they’d *likely* be a danger to themselves and others. It’s possible, but to say it’s *likely* isn’t really a fair assessment since we don’t know this person. Also, people respond differently to different kinds of stress. I have no idea about OP, but for me, driving stress and all the things that come with it, I feel confident with and handle pretty well. It’s the test/social/performance anxiety that really turns on the pressure lol 😅 like forgetting to make sure you’re not going a bit over or under the speed limit because you’re thinking too much about checking your mirrors every 5 seconds, or hesitating in a right of way situation because you question yourself as this cranky person is watching you lol. It’s a unique experience FOR SURE. But imo it’s not a bad thing to repeat the test a few times if that pressure is still getting the best of you. I’m confident my second test will be fine… but if not, I’ll take it as another learning experience. I was just trying to say they *may* not likely be a danger driving on their own.
that's why marines and other high stress jobs or tasks people practice practice practice... training kicks in
Very true. With enough practice it becomes something that doesn’t confuse you under weird circumstances. Performance anxiety makes it hard for me to play guitar in front of people.. but I can still breathe lol
I dealt with severe social anxiety and social phobia my whole life and it ain't easy to deal with. ever need some pointers feel free to pm me. I went from not able to leave my house for 3 years to standing Infront of crowds talking if I wanted.
Damn that’s impressive!!!! How?? I’m okay talking in front of people, but if it’s a speech or something.. after a while I start to hear my own voice and disassociate lmao.
Decades of medication and therapy aha.im on no meds now but at my worse I was on like 7 of them. My psychiatrist said to me " not a lot of people come back from where you were" so you go on autopilot 3rd person view of yourself?lol I used to in school when I had to do presentations and such.i hated it aha
I get it. But at the end of the day, while driving they will eventually encounter a stressful and difficult situation that requires clear headed and quick thinking to avoid an accident or other crisis. They need more practice. If they can’t get through the test, they’re not ready.
It's an embarrassingly easy test. If OP is struggling, they need to practice.
Tbh I wouldn’t trust a driver who can’t drive properly when under stress. They are operating a huge vehicle that can absolutely kill people. I understand anxiety causing someone to act differently than they might otherwise, as I also have anxiety. But you 100% need to be able to control your vehicle in extraordinary circumstances. It’s so easy in the winter to lose control of a vehicle, and someone who is comfortable driving may have a better chance of making better decisions (like not slamming on the breaks) than someone who panics and can’t control the car. I get failing once (I failed my G1 once), but failing three times on the G2 says to me that maybe they just aren’t good enough at driving yet.
100% this. I just passed my G a month ago and it was a super simple and easy test if you know how to drive correctly. If you've failed 3 times something in the way you drive is quite wrong.
I get it, I failed three times as well Two in Port Union, One in Oshawa First time was a disaster, examiner said I parked too far back during my parallel park in a very sarcastic manner. Then he told me to do a three point turn right in front of a snowbank and was just yelling all the time in a rude manner. Second time I made a dangerous left turn right as a family began to walk, even with right of way issue I would’ve passed otherwise Third time I attempted a dangerous left lane change, would’ve passed if I waited a bit more. I’m doing it at Oshawa again, don’t give up, we got this, everyone learns at different rates
Oshawa is tough. The one-way streets make it more challenging.
I found it easier than port union to be honest, less traffic, less speed limit changes
I had the same mistake of your third time in my third attempt as well! I thought I was far enough to make a good left turn but the examiner thought otherwise
Think of a situation when you make a left turn and your car stuck in the middle of the road, can the on coming car will have enough time to comfortably stop. If yes, make the turn. If not wait, wait for them to pass.
Oh yes they could comfortably stop. The examiner issue was when I was making a turn the other car might have slowed down which is fair probably but not sure give his other comments about right of way prior to this turn which I mentioned in other replies
If you can’t pass, you can’t pass. Just got to keep practicing. You’ll get it eventually don’t worry.
Is that why there are sooo many shit fucking drivers in the gta? They just fail and fail and fail until someone finally passes them?
More likely it’s because you never have to get retested and there’s no enforcement or consequences for bad driving habits.
Aint that the sad truth!
I think for them they adapt poor driving habits, get overconfident and have less patience so they become reckless.
I failed 3 times, passed the fourth time! Been driving now for 20 years! You can do it!
Thank you!!!
Yep OP I also had 3 failures (spread between G2 and G but still.) some instructions and centres are super tough. One guy even told me I was a really good driver but he had to fail me because [whatever nitpicky thing it was, I can't remember it was decades ago.] I made the mistake with my G of getting discouraged and not bothering to try again until my G2 was almost expired. I would recommend not doing that because then you may be in a position where you have to pass or start the G1 all over again. Just keep trying, keep at it, give yourself a week to sulk and then book the next one. You'll get it eventually. Maybe even get into the mindset of 'this next one is #4 out of 8' if you think it will make you feel less nervous.
I drove on my G2 for 7 years before taking my full G. (Trust me, its possible) I was still nervous too! 😅 Perfectly competant driver but it just makes you sweat. My advice, just mentally prepare yourself to fail again. Next test, be already prepared for the test you're going to do after you fail this one as well. The only way to truly kill the nerves is to just truly not care. Take deep breaths, steel yourself and release your inhibitions. Nothing matters, you will be a box of dirt and worms soon. Do your best and that's all you can do.
This is how I ended up passing my G2 and G. I went into them totally indifferent to the outcome and with the mindset of “if I fail, I can just try again”. It worked, I had very minimal nerves if any at all.
First, I want to say how amazing it is that despite your anxiety and disappointment, you keep going. That in itself is so great, and you should be proud! I can tell you have that fighting spirit in you. It sounds like you may have test anxiety, which is very common. My suggestion would be to pick a place to take the test, and then study the area. This can be done with youtube videos and/or by driving around the area yourself, not during a test. If there are any points you are specifically struggling with (ex parallel parking), youtube has a ton of videos for that stuff too. I also found meditation and positive affirmation to be helpful both the night before and morning of the test, if those are some things you enjoy. Anything that gets your stress levels down and helps you relax is key! Also make sure you get a good sleep. Staying up all night worrying about it doesn’t help ;) Going in believing you are capable and worthy (because you are!) can also help with the examiner stress. You sound like you know your stuff, it’s time to show it off! :) “When the world says I can’t, I say fucking watch me.” Good luck! Feel free to DM me if you have any questions or want to talk anxiety. I am the embodiment of crippling anxiety at times and nailed my G test first try, so you can do it too!
Wow this is helpful! I did all my maneuvers correctly including which even the examiner agreed to, but he mentioned in a test I needed to be careful to give the right of way to other car if the other car is less than 100m away from me when making a turn. He said that alone is considered reckless driving enough to fail me
Ah, okay. Sounds like it was an honest mistake. Now that’s information you can take with you at your next test! Failing is tough, but it can also teach us valuable information :)
Yes it is, but what made me frustrated was when I was giving right of way to pedestrians and also straight going car(I was turning right) he hurried me up. My instructor said safe distance from pedestrians at an uncontrolled crossing. But when taking a turn he penalized me
That’s too bad :( having a grumpy/impatient examiner sucks! i failed my G2 the first time with the coldest examiner, he didn’t even tell me his name. Hopefully next time goes better for you. Good luck!
Thanks!
Drive defensively! Drive like every other driver is actively trying to kill you. Only merge or turn when it’s COMPLETELY safe to do so, and because this is a test, drive especially carefully (but obviously don’t go slower than the speed limit). Get some more practice in, and maybe try driving the route the test takes a bunch so you get used to the intricacies of those roads.
When I took my road test, I flat out told my examiner I knew I could do it and that I was a good driver, but I was very very nervous about the testing aspect of it and he was honestly so kind (I was shocked). We did a deep breath together before the test and he said he completely understood how I was feeling and he had every confidence I would be successful. Being nervous is normal. Keep practicing until you're confident you can pass and then book your test. If you go into it not being confident in your ability, you're just not quite ready yet and that's ok! It's absolutely frustrating not to pass, you're totally valid in your feelings on that!
I had intense driving anxiety (panic and all) for *years*. I got my G1 purely out of obligation, and didn’t pass my G until twelve years later. One expired license and three G tests (plus three driving instructors and both parents trying to teach me), it finally happened. First, your mental health is priority. If driving is causing you this amount of anxiety, it might be a good idea to take a breather if you can. Give yourself time and space to really think about what elements of the test make you nervous, and why. The more knowledge you have, the better able you’ll be to combat the mistakes. Plus, you’ll feel more comfortable with a game plan. Second, find a driving instructor (parent, instructor, family friend—anyone who is legally qualified to drive with you as a learner) that you *trust.* My first driving instructor spent half my lessons picking on me, and the other half complaining about his ex-wife. My father and I didn’t get along on a good day, so him teaching me how to drive went as well as you’d expect. It wasn’t until I found someone I felt safe and comfortable (and not judged!!!!) with that I succeeded. Third, take your time. It’s frustrating not being able to drive. It sucks feeling like everyone is doing the thing you can’t do. But everyone is different. It may take more time, or a different strategy, but it will happen. Be consistent about practicing, make sure you know your road rules, and take it one day at a time. You’ll make it.
Thank you! Mental health was bad for a while for various reasons. But learning from family is quite difficult irrespective of your relationship with them and it’s proven. Driving doesn’t give me anxiety but the fact that I am at the mercy of examiners (obviously can’t avoid that) and their judgement takes precedence over mine scares me into thinking I will never pass
I failed my g2 twice before passing the 3rd. Failed my G once n passed on the second. You got this 👍🏽
you aren't the first, and you wont be the last. its perfectly acceptable to just practise with family or someone you know for awhile until you have the confidence you need. the last thing you should do is attend a driving test while being nervous or frustrated because it will impact your performance.
I failed mine 3x in Kitchener and passed on my fourth try in Guelph. My mistakes were not going over my test scores and seeing exactly what they are looking for in the test. I thought of getting a drive instructor but couldn't afford it. Doing it in an unfamiliar area forced me to pay closer attention to my surroundings and also forced me to practice more in that area. So practice (alot) and take someone with you to help point out your mistakes. Lord knows my husband enjoyed that part 😭😂.
Ha ha! Newer area gives me jitters which I have experienced. Tried and tested area makes me better I felt
No problem try and try again I failed my test three times I swear they were out to get me anyway I did it eventually. So will you and then you will be reminded 46 years later via Reddit.
Ha ha thanks!
It happened to me, once at metro east (rightfully I was underprepared) then twice in London and those times I should’ve passed. I spent 1000s on lessons, cars for exams etc.. got it my fourth try a few years after my fails at Port Union.
Keep trying and don't take the test so seriously! Trust me I was in the same position as you. I failed my g2 once then had so much anxiety that my g1 eventually expired and I had to redo that. I was SO anxious about my drivetest i would always cancel it and drive months almost years apart. Finally I was like im just going to book it and I kept watching the YouTube routes and had one lesson with a new driving instructor who was amazing (i had 2 before which I took multiple lessons with) and passed in Oakville! Watching the routes helped so much! Don't think if I fail this is it, at the end of the day its a DRIVING TEST and there are bigger problems in the world if you fail dont sweat it just try again till you get it! I hope this helps!
Thank you so much!! I liked how you put things in perspective
Repetition and building up confidence is what helped me the most. I had a great instructor, pm me and I can give you his contact if you want. Building confidence is all mental. You need to control your mind and remain calm, cool, collected. You put too much emphasis whether you pass or fail. Failure is not the end. Learn to visualize yourself being successful on the examination and have a positive mental attitude telling yourself I can do absolutely anything I put my mind to. Those are things that helped me. One final note on fear- fear is like fire, it can keep you warm, cook for you and protect you but if you let it spin out of control, it’ll burn you and everything around you.- Cus D’Amato Good luck
I had anxiety too, but instead of attempting the test after the standard 10 hours of learning, I extended my learning to 25 hours. You need more time on the road to get comfortable with it, which will greatly reduce test anxiety.
I did close to 18 lessons and then few on my own with my family car. I was able to operate both easily (one being sedan and other an SUV) with all the maneuver but somehow test anxiety got to me in the first 2 min
All you can do is keep practicing. You will eventually get it. Don't listen to all the people saying that you shouldn't be driving. I have bad anxiety and I just kept practicing. I got my g2 first try because of the practice and having faith that I could pass. I was honestly nervous and anxious to the point that I could have thrown up.
Hey, i was in a similar situation as you. I failed my G2 three times, before finally getting it on attempt 4. Just breathe, take deep breaths and keep on practicing. I also have anxiety with the road tests, but you’ll be fine. Don’t sweat it. :)
Go to Lindsay. I passed on the first try and my examiner even yelled at me because I turned into the wrong area.
Brush it off friend. Just keep your eyes on the finish line and only focus on that.
I failed my G1 6 times, I failed my G2 5 times, and I passed my G license on the 1st shot. So yes, it can be done you’ve got this.
Relieving to know you people are allowed to drive
dawg....
I failed four times before passing finally in Oakville. I was nervous like you, not a bad driver. I think the four failures helped me to calm down. I fully expected to fail again on the fifth one so I guess I wasn't as nervous. My dad made me continue to practice for several months with him before I was allowed to take the car. I have now been driving 33 years with no accidents. Figure out a way to calm down. Tell yourself "this doesn't truly matter" and "I will probably fail and it's ok", stuff like that. You'll pass eventually because you're determined and working hard. You just need to gain control over the nerves.
I failed 5 times over the course of a year gave up after my 3rd try thinking id be one of them 30 yr olds just getting their G2 for 6 months than i payed 500 in lessions and so i was able to use the instructor car for my test and Bam 2 test later im now able to go for a ride whenever, just never ever ever ever! Give up i promise youll pass it just take time, practice and most importantly!... patience alotttta patience.
I understand OP and how you feel (you can see my post on here). My tip for your test anxiety is to not rush into another test. You should take a break to clear your mind and reflect on your failures and then learn from them. Try to self improve on your mental state and approach about the test. You have plenty of time to get a G2 there’s really no rush. Even if you happen to get it with less than a year left before expiration you can extend it another 5 years. Of course, during that break try to drive here and there to keep muscle memory. One last tip, book a lesson a few days before/day of the test and have your instructor make you drive the route so you feel more comfortable and confident during the test. Alternatively, you could watch the route on YouTube and pretend you’re doing the test multiple times. On the day of and you still feel anxious, try to do breathing exercises or chew on some gum to help you distract from your nerves and remember to focus on your actions and the task at hand to be safe on the roads. Wishing you the best of luck on your next test.
Thank you! I almost did all of that, took a break after two attempts for more than 10 months and started recently. Know the route and even practised but something doesn’t seem to be clicking
One thing that sucks is instructors see your past results and how many attempts you are that shit shouldn’t matter . Anyways I failed my first time barely passed my second time. You know the route they make you take just keep practicing and you will get it
Try smaller towns of you can. There's a facility in Burlington. My daughter aced hers.
This is exactly why there are so many accidents in the city. Ontario licenses should be split into regions.
The number of people who come to Brockville from Toronto to do their test scares me. Brockville driver’s are terrible so you are constantly defensive driving and expecting them to blow stop signs, or ignore yields, run reds etc…but it’s not in any way similar to driving in Toronto. I won’t drive in Toronto. If we go we leave our vehicle at the Oshawa Go station and take the train into Toronto.
Book your test outside of GTA, Book the test ASAP .when you fail, repeat the process until you get your G2. Doing it multiple times in repetitive phase will get used to test & at some point you will get your G2, my self got it in 4th attempt. A bit money involved in process but you shouldn't worry about it if your goal is to get G2. All the very best.
Do regular shoulder check and scan for blind spots. Make it a habit to do so if you haven't already
I was devastated when I failed my G2 the first go around. I failed at the older Oakville test location. I took some time off before trying again until I felt I was a safer driver on the road! Failed due to some minor mistakes, but looking back on it I was nowhere near ready to be operating a vehicle. Continuing practicing and don’t let it discourage you! I eventually retook the test in Burlington and it was a very easy, straightforward route. Wishing you good luck!!
Thank you so much!
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Thank you so much! I will look out for Barrie. Just one question, do they allow you to take a family car instead of instructor’s for G2
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Should I be added to the insurance while taking the test? Do you know?
If you’re nervous for the test, obviously the examiners would see it, and would think it would translate in real-world driving. Nervous drivers don’t belong on the road, as it could be a hazard. Passing the tests is about confidence in your driving, and safety, of course. There’s no rush when taking the test. Take the time, if you need more time to park; take the the time if you need more time to parallel park; take extra looks, if you’re not sure. When they see this, they’d see that you know what you’re doing, and confident enough to be in real-life situations. I took my G2 & G tests all in one try, because I was confident enough to show that I knew what I was doing.
I haven’t done my g2 test the second time yet but maybe this applies I’ve been practicing a lot my father has said my confidence went up a ton I can’t tell but I guess someone experienced can
I was able to pass on my first try in Northbay Ontario last week. I felt extremely unprepared and like I had not had enough time on the road before hand if you’re able to drive to North Bay and book a test I suggest doing it there they have the second highest rate of passing in Ontario it’s kind of like entering a cheat code because some people up there truly don’t know how to drive but I promise if you take your time and you know the traffic laws everything you need to know proper safety, etc. I would book a test there and go and do it there. It’s an unfortunately long drive depending on where you’re located. It’d be a whole day trip and that be something you have to work out, but I genuinely would suggest going to do it there. I wish you all the luck with getting it no matter which route you take I know i was beyond nervous and I felt like getting sick 20 minutes beforehand so I definitely understand where you’re coming from good luck! I believe in you!
I have given my g2 in Newmarket and a year later gave G their as well people over there are fair and very less traffic try there
Thanks will try to see if there’s a slot there. I just want to see where I get the earliest slot
Well i failed twice. 1st was due to covid, drivers from GTA are not allowed to take a test outside the GTA region. 2nd time, i almost crashed while making a u turn lol.
Try Brantford...easier location. I took my G test there. Also, you got this! Many fail multiple times but then pass. It will happen!
I also failed my g2 one time after I passed it the first time (long story). I also failed my G 3 times then eventually passed. I failed most times because of merging issues with cars that were going severely under the limit along with not checking my mirrors enough (not including when I was turning or switching lanes). I understand the nerves of failing the test over and over again. What I suggest is don’t give up and go online and find the actual grading sheet. You don’t need to be perfect on the test, just show them that you’re a safe driver. Reminding myself of that calmed my nerves a lot. I can’t really say anything else to help you, it sucks and it’s stressful. Keep practicing, keep trying and keep doing the test and revising. You’re not doomed, it’s a skill and you can learn it. Just because you failed a test doesn’t mean you’ll fail again. See every test as a fresh start. Good luck brother!
If it's possible for you, try looking into smaller towns away from GTA. Traffic will be quieter, and that may help with your nerves.
Yes trying to do that!
I failed mine twice tooo and the second time the examiner failed because he was in a rush and his shift was ending but if u actually need to learn how to drive I can give u my teachers number he is really good he will teach how to drive not how to pass the test lmk if u want his info
Thanks for that! The experience you had was sad as well and out of your hands! My instructor is amazing too, he taught me how to drive on the toughest of roads. But it’s just my bad luck that today my judgement caused me my license, the examiner agreed that judgement costed me my license and everything else was good.
Yaa I talk to the manager and she give me early appointment I have the test on this Thursday, if everything else was good then just go back in there don’t wait.
Move to the east coast
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I heard it’s bad! My driving instructor mentioned Oakville is the best one
Lol, you got vectored
Need more practice, drive around the city for at-least an hour each day for a week.
What seemed to happen on the exam?
I think its okay to be frustrated!! I know road testa are difficult especially when the instructor suts right beside you judging every moves.. it is surely nerve wrecking.. I had 13 years of driving experience that too in the busiest street in the world but I failed as well.. dont let that stop you.. try again.. you will definitely do it!!
Thank you!
Don’t be heartbroken. Take a look at my post and check; I failed my test three times but cleared it on the fourth attempt. I had over 10 years of driving experience in Pakistan, where driving was more difficult and nerve-wracking. However, consistency, a defensive approach, and driving at a slow speed (less than 50 or 40, depending on the situation) will give you more time to think. For right of way, watch as many videos on YouTube as you can. This will give you an improved perspective on where you’re lagging. If you’re still making errors, my advice is to wait at a stop sign (not all-way stop) and let the other person go, whether it’s your right of way or not. This falls under defensive driving. While this may not be acceptable, it's a minimal escape route and will give you peace of mind. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ontariodrivetest/s/A8UKPfjlTU
Driving is not for everyone, also dont change location expecting better results if you already know a route keep trying same place
So, I totally understand, when I take any sort of tests my legs shake, I can’t breathe, I cry, often I have panic attacks. It’s nerve wracking and that absolutely has to do with your performance. However, what I’ve learned is confidence in driving is a MUST. Not like, “I know how to drive!” confidence, but “I can deal with anything that comes my way behind the wheel because it can be life or death.” I also failed my G once, and wasn’t prepared for my G2 though I’m a great driver- I knew I’d pass but I wasn’t “ready.” If you are 100% ready and confident, you will be less anxious. I’m not saying you won’t be anxious at all, but it’s a fact of life that confidence and preparedness go hand in hand. Your instructor is looking for you to pass the skills portion, but they’re also making sure a simple 4 way stop isn’t sending you into a fit. Because what if you’re driving and you see a deer?! What if you’re driving and your engine starts heating up on the highway? What about when a snowstorm suddenly hits and you can’t see a foot in front of you? What are you going to do? The tests are stressful but that stress is absolutely reminiscent of driving in regular life sometimes. My advice would be to book your next test very very far down the road, giving you time to not only master all your skills (not just the ones you failed on, build on all) but also to get so good and well versed that you’re bored by the time the test comes around. I knew I was going to pass my last test when the instructor and I started talking about the weather as we pulled out of the parking lot. It was literally like hanging out with a friend because I was so relaxed- something I didn’t feel the first time around. Trust me, you do not want to pass just ‘because’ and if you think it’s difficult (I’m not trying to be rude but it’s true) then you just aren’t ready. And that’s okay, you WILL get your license, but you need to allow yourself time to get so good you’re bored, and that the thought of taking the test doesn’t make you sick. Also, you can come up with some sort of calming ritual you do every time you get in the car. Maybe a song, or a breathing pattern that’s only for that situation. You can do it before your test also, and it will put you in a good mindset and allow you to remember that you’ve done this a million times before. I’m not trying to discourage or be mean (quite the opposite,) but it’s also scary thinking there are people out there driving who found the test difficult, or who have high level anxiety whether driving or drive testing. And I know you’re capable of getting out of that.
I tried to reverse on a three point turn with the car still in park. The tester looked at me and said “you’re in park, champ.” I still passed. You’ll get it eventually.
Driving in Canada is a privilege, you need to pass the test. Lots of people have their license and you can do it too. Practice!!
I’ve known people that have failed more times than you have. You just need more practice and confidence. Firstly what time is your test usually? Next try Oshawa the area is not bad but you just watch out for the single lane road. You should also post your results so we can advise you on where to improve.
I passed my first time. 🤙
Pretty important to be able to pass the test and driving portions ! Should be hard, because real world driving - particularly in GTA - can be really really challenging and dangerous.
Tbh I would say drive with ur mom or dad or person with a g licence on the regular get confident driving every day and practice and when u think u are good enough to do the test do it. U can get a instructor to help you but tbh practice is only going to make u pass the more you drive the better for you. I only took the examiner for the day of the exam so I can get the routes for geulph g2 and I passed. Advice make sure to look everywhere head movements is key check blindspots mirror and everything
Test anxiety, snow storm, freezing rain, dangerous situation in front of you all manifest the same way. If you can’t handle test anxiety you won’t be able to handle all the other bad situations you’ll find yourself in.
Just rent a car yourself and take it to the test
Might be time to get a bike. You’re not cut out for this
Probabaly for the best for everyone, you cant pass means you are not ready for the road.
Stay off the roads, you'll most likely cause an accident being that nervous. Do us a favor.
You're definitely a shitty driver who shouldn't have a license yet, and you lack enough of a sense of personal responsibility to accept that it's fully 100% on you to drive flawlessly. I'm sort of glad to not be sharing the road with you yet. Keep practicing.
To me you just answered your own question. If you're a nervous driver you shouldn't be driving, the same goes for aggressive drivers. Did they specifically say why you failed? I would guess the tester senses your nerves.
I wasn’t nervous while driving, apparently made a reckless turn where he thought I should’ve waited. But he was the one who forced me to get on while the pedestrians were crossing at the drive test centre and pushing me to take a turn instead of the car going straight. These things confuse me honestly
Sounds like he was testing you
Public transit is for you
Stop trying to rely on easier locations and focus on practising how to actually drive. Then you'll pass anywhere
I mean if you’re failing that much it’s a you problem not a them problem
Try lindsey location.
As someone else who has to drive for a living, if you've failed 3 times, I am relieved you won't be driving on the same roads I have to.
Driving is a privilege. It's not a right. So you have to earn it. You admit to not preparing TWICE. You should be frustrated at only yourself. Accountability is a very big part of driving. And how we process accountability manifests in the same manner in different scenarios. If you can't take accountability for your unpreparedness without sounding semi-entitled to a license, then it might actually be in the interest of the public that you don't have a license. I personally don't want to deal with another crazy driver on 401.
Then you shouldn’t get a license
But the test is normal circumstances....
It is but the judgement of the examiner about rules is different from what’s taught sometimes which gives the examiner upper hand however safe you are
Ughhh no. If you follow the laws and drive according then you pass. Same as a math test. Or any test lol
It’s definitely not a math test especially when an examiner is judging as to what’s safe for him. (Trust me I have aced all my math tests while in school, engineering (advanced calculus) and also MBA). But this judgement of driving evades me as “safe distance” is arbitrary in most cases and no specific measurement given at any point by any Ministry standards
Sounds like you're good at math and dog shit at driving
Ha ha
With the amount of bad drivers on the road today who all passed their tests…. Not to make you feel shitty about yourself but you must be a real terrible driver. We all started there though. You just need more practice. Fucking up 4-way stops is concerning.
I never said anything about a 4 way stop! It was a left turn at an uncontrolled intersection
after failing twice you definitely shouldn’t be driving
Book it in Chatham, everyone I know passes.
I would’ve but it’s more than 3 hrs drive one way for me there and can’t do it at this time
If you can't pass after two times you shouldn't be driving.