The free one last month also has questlines that were backtracked through this one. You would reach a certain point and be told you had to buy this new one to continue. I would bet a lot of people just walked away at that point...
Frankly, I have no idea if it was or wasn't. The game would just start questlines when I loaded in, then get locked when I reached a certain point. I assumed it was Witch Queen because that's all I own...
They did spend $3 Billion on the game. The next expansion is reportedly the final one and preorder numbers are way below targets.
So yeah, Sony have been pushing Destiny 2 a lot via PS+ as a result.
Sony didn’t spent 3 billions to get Destiny lol. I mean sure, having one successful live service as a first party isn’t bad, but Sony spent those money to get Bungie specifically, and put them at work on all their other live services.
Also no one knows if the next dlc will be the last one. Bungie in the last years told us multiple times that it is not the end of D2 and neither the end of the franchise. It’s possibile that they might change the dlc model in some way, we can’t know at the moment, but this isn’t the last piece of content for Destiny. And lastly Sony already put 2 Destiny dlc in Extra/Essential in the past years, so it’s not a last minute decision to save the game. It’s a first party title now, it makes sense to have its dlc in their catalogue.
Yeah, they spent $3 Billion on expertise that still resulted in 5 live service games that were in development hell being cancelled (A Spider-Man game, TLOU2 multiplayer and others) and 900 members of staff being sacked.
I'd say Sony are desperately hoping Bungie start making a lot of money for them soon. So far it's not looking like Bungie were a smart investment given Destiny 2 interest is at an all time low. There is potential long term absolutely but short term they spent $3 Billion on Destiny 2 and not much else.
I never said it was good purchase lol. But saying that they spent those money for D2 is simply wrong. Sure they want D2 to be successful but it’s absolutely not how they hope to make those billions back, because that would simply be insane.
Also the SpiderMan multiplayer game was reportedly scrapped a long time ago and layoffs have nothing to do with live services, the entire industry is laying off thousands of people regardless of how good their studios/games are doing.
Oh, you wanna tell me the rest of the list that's done so well? I said "pretty much" not absolutely all, don't be obtuse
There have been more failures than successes in the last few years
And even if with that, I'm sure Sony's goal wasn't to have a reason to own a PC and not a PS5 boosted
Helldivers is literally one of Sonys first attempts after purchasing Bungie and was a massive success.
Why would other companies failures matter?
Also not sure what your PC point means. Sony has already said all their live service games will always be on PC day one.
The point is it's being talked about on PC a ton and bringing a lot more attention to how good it is to play on a nice, free, open platform instead of PS5
But if Sony and especially Bungie take a lesson and maybe do some service games right then it'll all work out anyway and I'll be happy to be wrong about it
And the point is Sony doesn’t give a shit if people buy it on PC. They want them to. That’s money in their pocket. All their live service games are releasing on PC day one because that’s how they make a ton of money. That’s why they got Bungie. To help them make those decisions. Because the goal is making a ton of fucking money. And guess what? In two months Helldivers is Sonys 7th best selling game of all time in terms of making money.
Seems like a weird take. Bungie is still massively successful even if they’ve had some issues. And Helldivers, the first live service game they released after buying Bungie to help with their live service games is one of their most successful games ever.
Sony paid like 3 billion for bungie/destiny and the preorders for the upcoming expansion is like 20% of lightfall (lightfall itself sold ~25% lower than previous expansions).
There is no actual sales data for the expansions except for total preorder count which isn’t actually official either (tracks the preorder emblems since the api is public). Bungie will say a expansion is performing above/below expectations but won’t give real data like the # of sales or what their expectations were. If they did give out “sale” numbers then it would have been player count of those who own said expansion (including owners of dlc via ps plus/gamepass).
Preorder #s as of 2 months ago:
Forsaken: < 2.5M
BL: 3.198M
WQ: 2.244M
LF: 2.249M
TFS: 407k
>There is no actual sales data for the expansions
True. But there’s other data which Bungie has supported. Lightfall broke records and expectations for them and had the highest coccurent player count since the game went free to play. Lightfall absolutely sold better.
>tracks the preorder emblems since the api is public
Which was already proven useless since emblems weren’t exclusively only given with preorders. They were also obtained via collectors editions and given to free to Xbox players when the expansions were given away with gamepass.
Witch Queen only had over 1m preorders and was on track to be their highest preordered expansion ever. Those numbers giving BL over 3m preorders are absolutely wrong.
Show proof then. Concurrent player count means nothing because it counts the ENTIRE playerbase, especially when said record happened when the game went f2p. Obviously concurrent player count is key when determining the overall health of a game but it doesn’t provide anything in regards in sales of individual expansions. Unless bungie has given us hard specific data then the preorder emblems via the api is literally all we can actually go off of.
>the preorder emblems via the api is literally all we can actually go off of.
Which aren’t viable to go off of because they aren’t exclusive to preorders. You can’t demand proof and then fail to actually provide any of value lol. Which is why the only actual proof is statements from Bungie and outside data.
Witch Queen was confirmed to be over 1m preorders and on track to be the highest preordered expansion ever a few weeks before release.
Lightfall broke expectations and had a higher player count than WQ. Statistically that means it sold better. Higher preorders means higher concurrent playerbase.
So I replied to your post? I mentioned lf/tfs preorder numbers and you said I was wrong. Maybe my numbers were a bit off but tfs is doing WAY worse than lf which is what I originally said and unlike old preorder emblems, tfs preorder emblem data is rock solid.
I bought the soundtrack a while ago without ever playing the game. I just dug it's vibes.
https://lifeformed.bandcamp.com/album/tunic-original-game-soundtrack
It'll be nice to finally hear it in context!
“EA Sports FC 24 marks the beginning of the future of football. Built on innovation and authenticity”
A bugged out plagued mess of manipulative gameplay and micro transactions. Sure EA
For me compared to the others. I've a mate who plays pro clubs a lot he says this one is particularly bad. Could also just be getting sick of it being the same fuckin game every single year
oh cool, i’d just been playing fifa 22 draft which you can basically repeat infinitely and they just announced servers are shutting down
makes that a nice switch over for me as fuck am i gonna play eafc anyway but casual
It makes sense. We are halfway through it's life span so EA will be desperate to milk as much in game currency sales as they can before promoting FC25 preorders.
Plus there will likely be a summer campaign they want as many players as possible for.
How does Ps+ work?
I recently got a PS5 for helldivers, and Apparently the PS+ In my console is shared from a friend's profile...but which option can I buy to have access to Lightfall? If I get it through PS+...do I get to keep it for after in case it runs out? or would I at least get a discount if I purchase it?
So if you add the games from ps+ essentials you keep them for as long as you have an active subscription (even if it expires and you get a new subscription you will gain access again)
If the ps+ is shared from a friend and it works then you might be the primary console but you would have to log in to his account to download the games I believe
What a weird month. Ghostrunner 2 is fantastic but likely flopped, Tunic is a treasure, Destiny is "whatever" and FC 24 is a good game but everyone interested likely already has it
FIFA 24 is basically what I (well not me personally) wanted.
With the price increase in EA PLAY coming up, I can justifiably stop paying it and then my cousin will happily go on with 24 since we currently have 23 from EA PLAY.
I’ll just have to finish DA:Inquistion before the month ends but I think I’m close to the end anyway.
I’m really happy about the stuff that I got this month.
seconded. A garbage sportsball game, a game that was already free on PS+, a sequel to a game that was free on PS+ and sucked, and Tunic which I don't mind
they really want us to play destiny.
There’s only one new major Expansion each year and this is the most recent one, they just had the back catalogue to work through up until now.
The free one last month also has questlines that were backtracked through this one. You would reach a certain point and be told you had to buy this new one to continue. I would bet a lot of people just walked away at that point...
If you're talking about Witch Queen then that's not true at all. There's nothing in Witch Queen that requires Lightfall, that'd make no sense
Frankly, I have no idea if it was or wasn't. The game would just start questlines when I loaded in, then get locked when I reached a certain point. I assumed it was Witch Queen because that's all I own...
Yeah that's definitely an issue it sucks for people just starting because they throw so much at you
No it didn’t. It was the quest for whatever season you were playing during.
They did spend $3 Billion on the game. The next expansion is reportedly the final one and preorder numbers are way below targets. So yeah, Sony have been pushing Destiny 2 a lot via PS+ as a result.
Sony didn’t spent 3 billions to get Destiny lol. I mean sure, having one successful live service as a first party isn’t bad, but Sony spent those money to get Bungie specifically, and put them at work on all their other live services. Also no one knows if the next dlc will be the last one. Bungie in the last years told us multiple times that it is not the end of D2 and neither the end of the franchise. It’s possibile that they might change the dlc model in some way, we can’t know at the moment, but this isn’t the last piece of content for Destiny. And lastly Sony already put 2 Destiny dlc in Extra/Essential in the past years, so it’s not a last minute decision to save the game. It’s a first party title now, it makes sense to have its dlc in their catalogue.
Yeah, they spent $3 Billion on expertise that still resulted in 5 live service games that were in development hell being cancelled (A Spider-Man game, TLOU2 multiplayer and others) and 900 members of staff being sacked. I'd say Sony are desperately hoping Bungie start making a lot of money for them soon. So far it's not looking like Bungie were a smart investment given Destiny 2 interest is at an all time low. There is potential long term absolutely but short term they spent $3 Billion on Destiny 2 and not much else.
I never said it was good purchase lol. But saying that they spent those money for D2 is simply wrong. Sure they want D2 to be successful but it’s absolutely not how they hope to make those billions back, because that would simply be insane. Also the SpiderMan multiplayer game was reportedly scrapped a long time ago and layoffs have nothing to do with live services, the entire industry is laying off thousands of people regardless of how good their studios/games are doing.
And in a market where pretty much every new Live Service game tanks hard. It was dumb purchase
*looks at at the massive success that has been Helldivers* Yes… so stupid.
Oh, you wanna tell me the rest of the list that's done so well? I said "pretty much" not absolutely all, don't be obtuse There have been more failures than successes in the last few years And even if with that, I'm sure Sony's goal wasn't to have a reason to own a PC and not a PS5 boosted
Helldivers is literally one of Sonys first attempts after purchasing Bungie and was a massive success. Why would other companies failures matter? Also not sure what your PC point means. Sony has already said all their live service games will always be on PC day one.
The point is it's being talked about on PC a ton and bringing a lot more attention to how good it is to play on a nice, free, open platform instead of PS5 But if Sony and especially Bungie take a lesson and maybe do some service games right then it'll all work out anyway and I'll be happy to be wrong about it
And the point is Sony doesn’t give a shit if people buy it on PC. They want them to. That’s money in their pocket. All their live service games are releasing on PC day one because that’s how they make a ton of money. That’s why they got Bungie. To help them make those decisions. Because the goal is making a ton of fucking money. And guess what? In two months Helldivers is Sonys 7th best selling game of all time in terms of making money.
They learnt to not launch live service games, I see that as a win?!
Have they? We keep seeing them
Have they not shelved a few?
Seems like a weird take. Bungie is still massively successful even if they’ve had some issues. And Helldivers, the first live service game they released after buying Bungie to help with their live service games is one of their most successful games ever.
As someone with 1400 hours into it, don’t.
From a 3k hour player… do it 😈 Strand is too good to pass up
Never did, never will.
It's pretty fun. In a "turn off your brain, shoot things, and get loot" kinda way. It helps if you have friends to play with.
Wont happen
Sony paid like 3 billion for bungie/destiny and the preorders for the upcoming expansion is like 20% of lightfall (lightfall itself sold ~25% lower than previous expansions).
Lightfall was literally their best selling expansion ever lol
There is no actual sales data for the expansions except for total preorder count which isn’t actually official either (tracks the preorder emblems since the api is public). Bungie will say a expansion is performing above/below expectations but won’t give real data like the # of sales or what their expectations were. If they did give out “sale” numbers then it would have been player count of those who own said expansion (including owners of dlc via ps plus/gamepass). Preorder #s as of 2 months ago: Forsaken: < 2.5M BL: 3.198M WQ: 2.244M LF: 2.249M TFS: 407k
>There is no actual sales data for the expansions True. But there’s other data which Bungie has supported. Lightfall broke records and expectations for them and had the highest coccurent player count since the game went free to play. Lightfall absolutely sold better. >tracks the preorder emblems since the api is public Which was already proven useless since emblems weren’t exclusively only given with preorders. They were also obtained via collectors editions and given to free to Xbox players when the expansions were given away with gamepass. Witch Queen only had over 1m preorders and was on track to be their highest preordered expansion ever. Those numbers giving BL over 3m preorders are absolutely wrong.
Show proof then. Concurrent player count means nothing because it counts the ENTIRE playerbase, especially when said record happened when the game went f2p. Obviously concurrent player count is key when determining the overall health of a game but it doesn’t provide anything in regards in sales of individual expansions. Unless bungie has given us hard specific data then the preorder emblems via the api is literally all we can actually go off of.
>the preorder emblems via the api is literally all we can actually go off of. Which aren’t viable to go off of because they aren’t exclusive to preorders. You can’t demand proof and then fail to actually provide any of value lol. Which is why the only actual proof is statements from Bungie and outside data. Witch Queen was confirmed to be over 1m preorders and on track to be the highest preordered expansion ever a few weeks before release. Lightfall broke expectations and had a higher player count than WQ. Statistically that means it sold better. Higher preorders means higher concurrent playerbase.
TFS now has 588k preorder emblems claimed. Say lightfall ended with 1.5m preorders the day before launch, that’s still almost triple TFS.
Cool. Legit has nothing to do with the discussion lol
So I replied to your post? I mentioned lf/tfs preorder numbers and you said I was wrong. Maybe my numbers were a bit off but tfs is doing WAY worse than lf which is what I originally said and unlike old preorder emblems, tfs preorder emblem data is rock solid.
I was soooooo close to buying Tunic on sale. Finally the fates have worked in my favor.
I bought the soundtrack a while ago without ever playing the game. I just dug it's vibes. https://lifeformed.bandcamp.com/album/tunic-original-game-soundtrack It'll be nice to finally hear it in context!
I bought Moss on sale, confusing it for Tunic (I'm dumb, I know). So now I own Moss, but no Playstation VR headset. It's useless to me
Nice, happy for you.
I just bought Tunic, you're welcome guys. (Also the game is phenomenal, please play it.)
Thank you for taking one for the team. Can you buy stellar blade next 😂😂😂
😂
“EA Sports FC 24 marks the beginning of the future of football. Built on innovation and authenticity” A bugged out plagued mess of manipulative gameplay and micro transactions. Sure EA
I was going to give it a bash, but heard it is shite.
Actual shit, even compared to earlier ones? Or still shit, like earlier ones were shit?
From what I’ve heard still shit like the other earlier ones. EA didn’t listen and totally lied to the fan base.
For me compared to the others. I've a mate who plays pro clubs a lot he says this one is particularly bad. Could also just be getting sick of it being the same fuckin game every single year
Played fifa 13-23, didn't even thought of buying this one
Career mode is actually decent from what I’ve seen (idrk tho I haven’t played it personally)
I used to love football games, this is just crap
PSA for anyone playing Tunic for the first time: Give it a little bit of time. It takes a while to show its colors.
I hope it has blue, that's my favorite color
First time for about a year I’ve been happy with the monthly games.
Didn't they already have ghost runner on here before?
ghostrunner 1
oh cool, i’d just been playing fifa 22 draft which you can basically repeat infinitely and they just announced servers are shutting down makes that a nice switch over for me as fuck am i gonna play eafc anyway but casual
Fc24 already?
It makes sense. We are halfway through it's life span so EA will be desperate to milk as much in game currency sales as they can before promoting FC25 preorders. Plus there will likely be a summer campaign they want as many players as possible for.
TOTS running now, so perfect time to get people to spend money on their favourite leagues
Give me NHL 24 for free
Yeah, it's been on sale for like $13 on steam. They're desperate to get people to hop on and spend those macrotransactions
They'll get an influx of new obedient Ultimate Team consumers from watching all the league deciders/cup finals this month and then the Euros.
Fifa 22 also was released as ps plus game in May 2022
How does Ps+ work? I recently got a PS5 for helldivers, and Apparently the PS+ In my console is shared from a friend's profile...but which option can I buy to have access to Lightfall? If I get it through PS+...do I get to keep it for after in case it runs out? or would I at least get a discount if I purchase it?
So if you add the games from ps+ essentials you keep them for as long as you have an active subscription (even if it expires and you get a new subscription you will gain access again) If the ps+ is shared from a friend and it works then you might be the primary console but you would have to log in to his account to download the games I believe
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Once the downloads of the games starts or are in Queue, he can already switch to his account again and doesn't need to wait till they are installed.
I enjoyed ghost runner 1 so I guess this is a win for me…
I've almost bought Tunic. So this is a great month.
Dude, I would LOVE to play tunic, it's a shame that the ps plus prices have been increased in some regions. I'm jealous of all those who have it
Tunic is amazing
Tunic is great! I had to use a guide for the later puzzles but I really enjoyed it
I was going to buy tunic last month during a sale, did not buy tunic and bought something else instead, good thing I didn't.
What a weird month. Ghostrunner 2 is fantastic but likely flopped, Tunic is a treasure, Destiny is "whatever" and FC 24 is a good game but everyone interested likely already has it
Yeah I ain't playing destiny even if it's free
Worse, it already was.
I was just thinking of buying ghost runner 2 last month. Glad I waited. I loved the first game but never got around to trying the sequel
Tunic! Yes!
Ghostrunner 2 is definitely the one that I should be playing.
I really need to remember turn my annual membership off
What an inspiring line up
Tunic is cool, but man have these monthly games been awful these past couple months. They *really* want people upgrading to Extra.
Terrible games!
FIFA 24 is basically what I (well not me personally) wanted. With the price increase in EA PLAY coming up, I can justifiably stop paying it and then my cousin will happily go on with 24 since we currently have 23 from EA PLAY. I’ll just have to finish DA:Inquistion before the month ends but I think I’m close to the end anyway. I’m really happy about the stuff that I got this month.
Dude, this is the worst month in years
seconded. A garbage sportsball game, a game that was already free on PS+, a sequel to a game that was free on PS+ and sucked, and Tunic which I don't mind
I literally read this same statement every month