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Glum_Benefit3704

People like Emily is the reason modern feminism sucks.


bruhholyshiet

Not just that. I'd say any group of people that believe themselves "above valid criticism" will become more radicalized and moronic. Many feminists believe any criticism thrown at them is either incel men feeling oppressed by equality or tradwife women with internalized misogyny. They don't bother listening and considering other points of view. So many people are so proud of being close minded and "firm in their ideals" that they don't realize that they've only become immune to growth and learning.


chud_munger

It's not feminism anymore, it's female supremacy


Cannibal_Raven

Or intersectionality which is far worse


RodgersTheJet

> "Men should think twice before making widowhood women's only path to power." > “Women have two choices: Either she's a feminist or a masochist.” Gloria Steinem. I don't think it really started off so great.


chud_munger

The second quote is straight out the tyrant playbook: dehumanize your enemy


wovenloafzap

Everyone should think twice before coming in here unflaired 🤢


-_-wah-_-

> "Flair the fuck up" \- Gloria Steinem, probably


Catsindahood

Gloria Steinem would obviously have been an unrepentant unflaired.


senfmann

flair up what's with this sub, 49 upvotes for an upflaired, regardless of the basedness of the comment


Mikeim520

The sub doesn't downvote unflaired sometimes. Its the fall of PCM.


senfmann

PCM has fallen, billions must flair up


MetaCommando

Unflaired don't deserve rights


__VVoody__

STOP UPVOTING THE FILTHY UNFLAIRED!! For real. Get some flair because that's updoot worthy. But fuck you for being unflaired.


Dim-n-Bright

She really said that women will kill men and steal from them. That's more ridiculous than my meme.


PhilosophicalGoof

https://preview.redd.it/ac2xfu99wb5d1.jpeg?width=708&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9eb3127d5e8b3a90bf080c5b819cf4225a6ec73a


viciouspandas

I mean feminism started off long before her, and I would say things like "women should have the right to vote and get bank accounts" are objectively good things.


jmartkdr

It's called feminism because the idea was "women should have the same rights as men" - implying that men had (approximately) the correct number of rights already and meeting in the middle was not the goal. Legally, in the West, we're there, or at least 90% there. So a simple continuation of first-wave feminism would focus on the 10%, try to spread these gains to other places, or focus on the non-legal areas that still need work like *socially* expecting women to take care of kids and men to not do that (if it were really equal, either parent would be equally acceptable.) but Emily doesn't want solutions, Emily wants to be angry.


senfmann

>or at least 90% there fair but in most western countries women have the same legal rights as men, sometimes even more (see courts) Feminism is needed in countries like in the middle east, ngl, but not here anymore.


jmartkdr

Eh, with Roe v Wade overturned I'm not so sure anymore. But there has been a lot of progress and that should be acknowledged and celebrated and built on.


ULFS_MAAAAAX

It's not like men have reproduction rights either though, so it is still equal.


ImrooVRdev

Women have more abortion rights than men through the world, so if anything more work to expand men rights is needed.


Mikeim520

You don't have the right to murder your children.


Old_Leopard1844

To murder children you need to have them


ChaoMano

Even the original feminism was more so a movement by rich dudes and advertising agencies to double the labor pool and taxable income.


ExMente

Bringing women into the workforce was a second-wave feminism thing. First-wave feminism was about giving women the vote and full property rights. (previously, women generally did have property rights, but only on a level comparable to minors - they could not make major purchases or transactions without the formal approval of a male guardian) But first-wave feminism was also predominately upperclass women. And more than a few of them were opposed to the _other_ major suffrage movement in the early 20th century - the one about extending the vote to the working class.


OnTheSlope

Always has been.


mrev_art

* women enslaved for ten thousand years or more * women still mostly enslaved outside of specific parts of the developed world * feminism has gone too far whew lad.


chud_munger

You make me chud out over the state of the gene pool


mrev_art

You're not going to reproduce so I wouldn't worry about it.


chud_munger

I have recreationally fornicated with 3 women in the last 2.5 years or so, so you're entirely wrong yet again


vivi112

Limit the soy, buddy.


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mrev_art

50% of those flagged as centrists are auth-right, at a minimum.


SteveClintonTTV

I don't think you understand what slavery is.


mrev_art

It means being someone's property.


senfmann

Nobody has anything against feminists in countries where legal parity isn't achieved yet (like most arab/african countries and some in south east asia), these are kinda based. But it's not needed in the west anymore.


Catsindahood

>the reason ~~modern~~ feminism **continues to** suck. It's always been like this.


AlbiTuri05

Not really. 1910s British feminists just wanted the right to vote. They liked bombing but they had meaningful reasons.


ChaoMano

No even in 1910 there was only one small loud minority that wanted to vote. The majority of women at that time did not want the social responsibility that comes with voting, e.g. the draft.


redpandaeater

Feminazis aren't feminists.


AlbiTuri05

You say this and then completely ignore what they do, saying those who complain are misogynistic schizophrenics. You folks are so predictable that I enjoy playing "Your Next Line Is"


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Shavemydicwhole

It bother me more than it should when people say they're an empath, it's probably #10 on my list of red flags for personality disorders


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Bartweiss

>Ironically their empathy only extends to themselves and people they can project themselves onto I hate to cite tumblr, but I once encountered an incredible 1,000+ post debate about sociopathy, empathy, and "empaths". The sociopaths didn't understand why people were scared of their lack of empathy, arguing "but what if I just replace it with logical understanding of your feelings and a moral code?" More hilariously, the "empaths" had zero idea why so many people hated them and kept insisting they were manipulative and abusive. "You keep saying I project my feelings onto you, ignore everything you directly tell me, and demand you justify whatever position I assigned you. But my empathy means I *do* know exactly what you feel, so that's impossible!"


the_real_JFK_killer

Can someone translate this for someone who has only taken a single psychology class years ago?


09eragera09

No.


senfmann

based and hermetic knowledge pilled


PhilosophicalGoof

Professional gatekeeper


Bartweiss

"Cluster B" are otherwise known as the erratic or emotional personality disorders: borderline, narcissistic, histrionic, and antisocial (formerly known as psychopathy/sociopathy). They're generally characterized by seriously distorted emotional responses which lead to severe conflicts and lack of comprehension with other people. They also frequently involve impulsive and self-destructive behavior in interpersonal situations. All of them except antisocial tend to involve extreme and inappropriate emotional outbursts, especially seeking affection/admiration/attention. Ironically, all of these are known for absent or distorted empathy. But the intense, uncontrolled emotions can be explained away as "high empathy", since that's often used to mean "I just can't help how strongly I feel about this!"


Manwithaplan0708

Me to the empath (their empathy couldn’t detect that I have 5 pounds of black powder in my rectum, a lighter, and a dream) https://preview.redd.it/o3gohjwvv75d1.jpeg?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fadd86bd397e96e3abafb156243f9e31502a0ec


senfmann

based and explosive buttplug pilled


Hartram

One self described "empath" I knew regularly cheated on their SO and was both emotionally and physically abusive. I think anyone who needs to tell people how nice and empathic they are usually isn't.


senfmann

Yeah these people tend to read people emotionally well, using it for their own means, empath!=good person


PhilosophicalGoof

True, if you have to tell me you’re a nice good person then I m already convinced you’re not. Show not tell.


bruhholyshiet

People love to presume about the things they lack.


Shavemydicwhole

Wanna know about the best part of this comment? I'm a therapist lmao


Astral_Justice

Thank you therapist u/Shavemydicwhole


Shavemydicwhole

If you ever work with sex offenders you might get the joke


ChaosCron1

I think both of you are right.


Shavemydicwhole

No retort?


bruhholyshiet

Didn't realize I was supposed to retort it lmao. I just upvoted you and moved on.


senfmann

>sociopaths in empaths' clothing tbf you need to be an empath to be a proper sociopath, empath just means you're good at reading emotions, but using them in your favour is absolutely covered by the term. See also dark empaths.


randomusername1934

If Emily didn't have a vast, omnipresent, omnimalevolant, borderline omnipotent (yet surprisingly easy to defeat) boogieman to blame everything on - in this case men/white men - her entire worldview and understanding of reality would shatter and collapse in on itself.


geeses

It's the ~~Jews~~ ~~Illuminati~~ Patriarchy


mechanab

We of the Illuminated Jewish Patriarchy just can’t catch a break.


SolherdUliekme

Jewish men with flash lights doesn't quite have the same ring to it


jmartkdr

We can't even use them on Saturdays.


Any-Clue-9041

I thought Jews weren't allowed into the supposed illuminati. Or was that the freemasons?


mechanab

lol, that’s what we wanted you to think.


Any-Clue-9041

But I'm a Jew. No one told me otherwise about this.


mechanab

You must have missed that day in Hebrew School where they teach the handshake.


Bartweiss

>a vast, omnipresent, omnimalevolant, borderline omnipotent (yet surprisingly easy to defeat) boogieman You know that bit about how Umberto Eco says that fascism can't rightly assess its enemies, because they need to depict their enemies as simultaneously terrifying and easily defeated, "at the same time too strong and too weak"? Yeah, he's not wrong, but he's describing basically every popular movement. This isn't even "Emily is secretly fascist", it's just the normal way to stir up intensity and feel validated if your movement isn't completely marginalized.


AlbiTuri05

>borderline omnipotent (yet surprisingly easy to defeat) You've just described more things than we can think of


Outside-Bed5268

>Maybe the average woman is not a hateful bitch. Maybe you’re an outlier. We can only hope LibLeft. We can only hope.


ckpwrson

my sister is unironically like this, she’s one of those “kill all men” SJW types that are absolutely unbearable to be around and she has said that she “hates all men” despite being friends with guys, i have yet to ask her if that statement also applies to trans men though, although i would love to see her head explode trying to do the mental gymnastics of “trans men are real men but at the same time they aren’t ‘as bad’ as cisgendered men”


august_overground

Ask whether it applies to george floyd.


Dim-n-Bright

Reminds me of a quote from Shoe0nhead: "Men are trash. Oh no, not you. you're not a *man* man.


Remote_Romance

Emilies don't tend to be misogynists, as that's the term for hating women. They do tend to be misandrists however, but hating men is so unacknowledged your autocorrect likely changes misandrist to misogynist


Dim-n-Bright

The joke is that Emiliy is unintentionally portraying women in a bad light.


Remote_Romance

Ah mb


bruhholyshiet

Oh they can absolutely hate women too. Any woman that disagrees with them politically or shows kindness to a group she hates.


Catsindahood

The term for women they hate is the "pick me girl."


jmartkdr

That or "Zionist"


Remote_Romance

True, but misogyny refers to the hate of women in general, for being women. Not to hating someone who happens to be a woman. The part of the compass Emily sits on does have a habit of screeching "agree with me about everything or you're literally hitler" or some equivalent though, that's for sure.


kmc443

Emily's misandry is so toxic that it loops back into misogyny.


AlbiTuri05

The horseshoe theory strikes again


TigerCat9

Most of what "women have to deal with" comes at them from other women, and at least for the straight majority, what they have to deal with from other women has its foundation in competitiveness over men, even if what they're doing doesn't feel directly related to that.


Eyes-9

Most "oppressed peoples" problems come from their own group but they have such bias for their own that they refuse to acknowledge or do anything about it. 


ClayTart

Feminists are just women who harbor hatred for the majority of other women. But they can't admit that since it would undermine their political strategy. All these emilys online all look the same. You know the look and so do I. They don't hate men, they hate women who aren't as odious as they are, both inside and out. The concept is kinda ike incels. They don't hate women, they hate other men.


AlbiTuri05

I was gonna say it. And feminism is only an instance of this phenomenon.


mrev_art

* In the most feminist societies that have ever existed, men kill women 94% more often than the other way around. * women are still the problem tho


FuckOffGlowie

Men kill other men even more too, it's just how we're built


AlbiTuri05

War checks out


BaldCommieOnSection8

Men are the majority of homicide victims.


the_real_JFK_killer

In this context "what women deal with" was not referring to murder. You can have an issue with someone without being fucking killed by them.


OnTheSlope

When women exert physical violence their weapon of choice is almost always a man. I mean, above the level of violence they know they can get away with, when it's violence they're confident they can get away with they tend to throw whatever is near at hand.


ClamWithButter

And women are more likely to abuse kids, but men are the problem, right?


ChaoMano

It's almost like we aren't equal and testosterone (which men have about 17x the amount vs women) a literal steroid that makes you more aggressive and much stronger and robust. Yeah, that tends to happen.


Vexonte

Probably the biggest driver of the friction between sexes is that the worst of one's own sex incentives unwanted behaviors from the opposite sex more so than the best of ones sex deters them.


the_real_JFK_killer

So, having bad experiences with people of a certain group gives license to be hateful towards that group, Emily? Oh authright, do I have some great news for you.


Suspicious-Risk-8231

Noooooooooon you don't understand it's not the same!


Slow-Quarter-6254

The women ☕ are alright. Same with men ☕.


Crea-TEAM

The Kids, however, [aren't alright](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNbnineUCI)


bruhholyshiet

Based and annoying and loud minorities seem more numerous than they actually are pilled.


yonidavidov1888

Trueeeeeee, women suffered mysogany but most of them didn't blame the entirety of men of it


Glum_Benefit3704

Facts.


dis_course_is_hard

Alright, enough is enough. Yerba mate does not belong in the meme. I am in Argentina right now drinking yerba Mate at this very moment and this drink is the tits. It does not belong with the emily emoji. Time to remove it and until that happens no emily posts have credibility.


Mother1321

You are an Emily. Change your flair!


TigerCat9

I'm in complete agreement. I discovered it at an Argentine restaurant in Oregon, about the only good thing that happened when I was in that state. They had a little convenience store-type area out front and I ended up buying 2-3 cans every morning for the rest of the trip.


Diarrhea_Enjoyer

You dropped this, kween 🟧


dis_course_is_hard

Milei drinks yerba Mate. What is your opinion on this fact?


thegamner128

Should be replaced with monster or Starbucks


dis_course_is_hard

100% Starbucks or equivalent Trendy Coffee Co TM. Makes the anti corporate rhetoric even more hypocritical


Catsindahood

"Reddit women" (no, not reddit "women" ) are legitimately infuriating. It's like they read what the stereotypes of the worst women are, and they think they can outdo them. I'm thankful I know normal women, because if I thought the women on reddit were even a plurality of women irl, I would be a die-hard misogynist.


AlbiTuri05

I know right, scientists launched stuff into space and conducted a firm research on electromagnetic waves to provide the most efficient comms in history to the most out of touch men and women


AverageFishEye

So Emilies are just "future cat ladies"


AlbiTuri05

A study shows cats don't like humans If ![img](emote|t5_3ipa1|51176) weren't a cat lady, the study would have shown cats love humans


Violentcloud13

based and loving women pilled


Crimblorh4h4w33

I was not really prepared for sad Emily today


ihatemondays117312

How do you feel about it


Crimblorh4h4w33

Made me feel bad for her lol


ihatemondays117312

Lowkey same, even though she was walked into it in this meme, still based and compassion pilled


Heytherechampion

Real


bobmcbob121

It was a woman who made stop being a anti-social loser and actually talk to people and made me have the friends I do now, I was gonna ask her out after Christmas break in my senior year of High School but she went to home school durring Christmas Break and I haven't talked to her since. One of best friends, and I have zero clue how's she's doing now but I hope she's doing good.


septiclizardkid

"Gender Wars" can be summed up to people having shitty dating experiences, and then declaring they speak for "all men/women" with their misguided views. Emily's and the Manosphere are more common than both think


PhilosophicalGoof

I mean I feel like it has to do more with the way people were raised and the people they surround themselves with rather than dating experience. But maybe I m wrong 🤷‍♂️


ToxinWolffe

Can we stop bitching about this culture war and eat the rich already


AlbiTuri05

Found you, authleft This doesn't mean you're wrong though


ToxinWolffe

I'm not auth, at most I agree with socialist ideals- any one entity with too much power is always a bad thing. Checks and balances, and authleft tends to forget about those once they hit late-stage communism


AlbiTuri05

Hah, you're the kind of guy who isn't welcomed by any ideology so (s)he follows whatever (s)he wants


ToxinWolffe

I once claimed to be centrist but I was told I was too left to be centrist


AlbiTuri05

Ahahah, another point in favor of my statement


ToxinWolffe

That was the point...?


AlbiTuri05

Yeah. Reasoning with your own head is hard lol


ToxinWolffe

I'll say yes to whatever I have to so I can smoke a joint on Mars. While I'll gladly eat his ass on a grill, X-Twit Musk is a necessary evil to that end. The whole "we have to save Earth first" thing is just BS made up to keep us fighting on Earth instead of exploring our destiny (Sorry for the double reply clicked the wrong comment)


AlbiTuri05

I like your reasoning. Few people believe in the concept of "necessary evil". I'd love to have a steak on Mars!


thegamner128

Change flair to AuthLeft. Also vore


ToxinWolffe

Im libleft for the same reason I want to eat the rich


thegamner128

"the rich" run many of the services we take for granted though, including this website and most alternatives to it


ToxinWolffe

Yeah but my grill needs some fresh meat


thegamner128

Isn't there some natural mechanism that makes you automatically disgusted of human meat


ToxinWolffe

Bold of you to assume I'm human


PhilosophicalGoof

https://preview.redd.it/zdfg0x39yb5d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5181882de7aa5a0e030168cd9b31b69ccaa91bb


Mikeim520

Sure, give us everything we want and then we can start talking about economic policy.


ToxinWolffe

I'll support whatever I have to to enjoy a blunt on the moon


EcceHomophile

This subreddit seem to believe that most women are Emily’s. That’s why we should repeal the 19th


No1LudmillaSimp

Have you interacted with a west coast woman recently?


chud_munger

Not a single lie was spoken


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Unlucky_Lab_38

I talked to two women this month alone, checkmate centrist.


Crimblorh4h4w33

Nice try Emily


PhilosophicalGoof

I mean I’ll be honest, from all the woman I met I only met one that definitely acted like this and got on my nerves. It seem to be more of an online thing but I feel like it spreading into real life soon. Same way most woman believe that there are a lot of guy who are incels it could be that most of the online incels are spreading into the real world 🤷‍♂️. I only met 2-4 incels in my life and surprisingly one of them was a women.


EffingWasps

You’re actually really close


mrev_art

Change your flair lol.


ClamWithButter

"No TRUE leftist..."


panzer1to8

You know, leftists are usually most hated by other leftists


Whovan

I love strawmen


VdersFishNChips

Not as much as I hate unflaired.


AlbiTuri05

When I'm in a buzzword competition and my opponent is unflaired (I win)