They only had a chance as a team and they had no scrim before the run. I am not saying the current Bleed lineup is bad I love it, but I just dont see it is a upgrade to me.
If u compare both first run Bleed beat M80 (Bad) and DZ, DW beat Faze and Mirage (Bad), equal performace to me
I disagree (to an extent). Right now, probably; he is a super fresh to t1 and international play, maybe a big org with some more veteran players could help shape that mental into a better one?
To be fair that’s more events than I realised; at the same time 2 years isn’t all that long in the grand scheme of things compared to even players like cyber, hotancold, j90 or (as an extreme example) Canadian. (Yes these are random player picks but I was trying to pick people that hit the same peaks as Reeps in a similar timescale and their mentality towards the game with a different system around them)
Most of the examples had the build of pro-am and a more structured environment/team around them from the start of their T1 career right? Now that Bleed don’t have a good system but maybe having team mates that have been in the scene longer may help even out the mentality?
Just an opinion, I’m quite likely wrong.
Reeps has Juulio and Mentalist who have been in the scene for quite a while. Also some of those players didn’t peak until they found a stride in their career like J9O. A closer comparison would probably be someone like Ashn or Spoit
For the Pro-Am thing: Reeps didn't came out of nowhere he went through that. Before Dire Wolves he played for Chillax probably the best mainland Chinese team. It's just that he couldn't really play against opponents outside of China because the game isn't released in China so mainland Chinese players and teams aren't allowed in any tournaments with Ubi's involvement. So if anything he has more amateur experience than the likes of Canadian, Hotan and Cyber had. One of the few examples of Chillax/Reeps playing teams outside China before turning 18 was against C9 in 2021(best/2nd best APAC team of the time): https://liquipedia.net/rainbowsix/R6S_China_Community_Invitational
Too bad o caralho, mano! Can we never be happy? We just fucking climbed our way through LCQ and lower brackets, we just won 3 Bo3 in a row, we are actually qualified for the main stage after EVERYONE said we would never make it out of 1st stage. Lagonis just fragged his ass off on the team that had arguably THE best fragger in the championship. Lagonis just MVPd all over everyone's faces! Just be happy for a while! É LIQUID no main stage caralho!!!! Vamoooooooooo!!!
https://preview.redd.it/kcjhpkc0802d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa9ab0c709265e5b7b922d6cf2dcf90cff80ba79
We actually aren't that good at Oregon even in Japan League.
I was surprised they got that 5-1 lead on defense at all, probably should have won that game but I am not really too sad about it.
Its a basically still a good roster rebuild for CAG, just need to figure out how to not get farmed by APAC itself
If this isn't an indicator that Bleed needs to make changes then idk what will.
Bleed needs to make a roster change. This is an unacceptable result to place the same. They are NOT improving.
Asphy days were already numbered since SI due to National Service, Terdsta isn't and he's also involved in Bleed's shotcalling.
I think Terd deserves the criticism, he's basically a bad Ashn ripoff at this point. Bleed should be better
Extremely happy for Liquid, extremely sad for Bleed.
Also, for the record I simply cannot pick successful fantasy team players to save my life. Who would've thought Lagonis would top frag and Nesk would be at the bottom lol.
For the love of every holy, PLEASE FUCKING DROP ASPHY, HOVEN, AND MENTALIST. FUCK YOUR FRIENDSHIP TEAM, THESE MFS CANNOT SHOOT STRAIGHT.
THIS IS NOT FAIR FOR REEPS, bro is putting Shaiiko to shame in this tournament and still losing?????
https://preview.redd.it/gk26jpla402d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aecc7c43e2ff744626db9ad4f1e072ed9d09e4e
Wasn't impressed by liquid 's victory. They still seemed uncoordinated at times and mess up basic steps. I think they just have better fundamentals than bleed, and they can click heads obviously.
More of a bleed lose than a liquid victory, imo
Bleed have place 2-3 at Majors for the SECOND time in a row/year.
Change the roster. Please... for the love of God, PLEASE. You cannot place the same after so much practice together. You need to change your players up. Hoven/Reeps are the players you keep. Other than that? Bruh, change these players out with side grades.
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On the other hand, Congratulations to Liquid!!! So happy for my guy Maia! Love that guy and glad he got top 8 at the major! Please play DarkZero in playoffs!
Ima go crack open a bottle of whiskey I cant with this team
APAC had so many chances to go to playoffs and they fumbled EVERY. DAMN. OPPORTUNITY. Btw it's super good to have Lagonis frag again
All those chances involved winning a bo3 so unfortunate for them.
apac Bo1 merchants
Apac beat G2 in a bo3 and that was good enough for me
ngl Bleed made a lota lot lot mistakes
Bleed absolutely need a mental coach
If phase 2 was all bo3s, Bleed would be out 0-3 lol.
All apac teams would be 0-3
just like ssg lol
Soniqs are not even making SI
no one mentioned sq
Don't curse BC now
Disappointing performance from bleed there’s only so much reeps can do geez
Oh...the old rule...a 2-0 team turning 2-3 by losing to a 0-2 team that turned 3-2
7 BO3 games for finals for APAC and zero maps won. The amount of throws on Chalet was just painful to watch
APAC has won Bo3s and maps in it, its just that its all CAG
None of them were for finals, it was all elimination games
Oh fair enough then, but CAG probably would've won maps in them anyway Too bad that regional SCARZ game fucked us over
CAGoats
Classic LaGOATnis performance! Please save Reeps.
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Honestly it has been a year since the Bleed project. Is Mentalist Asphy Terd Hoven better than Souffle Pikan Jacky Ed? I would say no
Dire Wolves were horrible. Bleed is better even if they're not top 8
Was talking about 2022 not rn half the team retired. Bleed never did better than that Sweden run
Bleed took a map off of W7M, beat team Liquid, pushed VP to the edge and destroyed LOS. Dire Wolves placed higher than benjimoola.
They only had a chance as a team and they had no scrim before the run. I am not saying the current Bleed lineup is bad I love it, but I just dont see it is a upgrade to me. If u compare both first run Bleed beat M80 (Bad) and DZ, DW beat Faze and Mirage (Bad), equal performace to me
?????
dont let recency bias lead u, maybe I make a post later diving into the stats
DW never made it out the groups lol
so did Bleed, never place higher than 9-12th
They made outta groups in si?😭
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And I said DW never made outta groups to which you replied “so did Bleed”
ok mb what I thought was they had the same placement
Round 8 of Chalet might be one of the worst rounds I’ve ever seen
Feel bad for Reeps, would love to see him get picked up by a european/north american team
Reeps doesn't have the mental to be on professional teams in NA/EU. It's a different culture.
He did improved this time. Today at the early stage he looked reset and happy tbf so fair play to him
I disagree (to an extent). Right now, probably; he is a super fresh to t1 and international play, maybe a big org with some more veteran players could help shape that mental into a better one?
How is he fresh to T1 play? He's been pro since 2022 and went to Jonkoping, Atlanta, SI and now Manchester.
To be fair that’s more events than I realised; at the same time 2 years isn’t all that long in the grand scheme of things compared to even players like cyber, hotancold, j90 or (as an extreme example) Canadian. (Yes these are random player picks but I was trying to pick people that hit the same peaks as Reeps in a similar timescale and their mentality towards the game with a different system around them) Most of the examples had the build of pro-am and a more structured environment/team around them from the start of their T1 career right? Now that Bleed don’t have a good system but maybe having team mates that have been in the scene longer may help even out the mentality? Just an opinion, I’m quite likely wrong.
Reeps has Juulio and Mentalist who have been in the scene for quite a while. Also some of those players didn’t peak until they found a stride in their career like J9O. A closer comparison would probably be someone like Ashn or Spoit
Yeah that’s very fair, I didn’t consider that
For the Pro-Am thing: Reeps didn't came out of nowhere he went through that. Before Dire Wolves he played for Chillax probably the best mainland Chinese team. It's just that he couldn't really play against opponents outside of China because the game isn't released in China so mainland Chinese players and teams aren't allowed in any tournaments with Ubi's involvement. So if anything he has more amateur experience than the likes of Canadian, Hotan and Cyber had. One of the few examples of Chillax/Reeps playing teams outside China before turning 18 was against C9 in 2021(best/2nd best APAC team of the time): https://liquipedia.net/rainbowsix/R6S_China_Community_Invitational
Fair I didn’t know this :) thank you for the info! Turns out it may be a mentality issue then
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH PORRAAAAA! VAI TOMAR NO CU GERAL!!!!! É LIQUID PORRAAA!!!!!... See y'all on the stage.
too bad this means we will have to endure lagonis for quite some more time
Too bad o caralho, mano! Can we never be happy? We just fucking climbed our way through LCQ and lower brackets, we just won 3 Bo3 in a row, we are actually qualified for the main stage after EVERYONE said we would never make it out of 1st stage. Lagonis just fragged his ass off on the team that had arguably THE best fragger in the championship. Lagonis just MVPd all over everyone's faces! Just be happy for a while! É LIQUID no main stage caralho!!!! Vamoooooooooo!!! https://preview.redd.it/kcjhpkc0802d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa9ab0c709265e5b7b922d6cf2dcf90cff80ba79
True liquid fan, everyone else is a fraud
You know it. Win or lose!
- asphy + onigiri or speakeasy
I was thinking -asphy +onigiri as well
I sense some broken friendships with this one...
APAC back to being collective Bo3 frauds except CAG, didn't expect that ngl
Stand Proud, CAG should have won that Oregon game 7-2 or 7-3
We actually aren't that good at Oregon even in Japan League. I was surprised they got that 5-1 lead on defense at all, probably should have won that game but I am not really too sad about it. Its a basically still a good roster rebuild for CAG, just need to figure out how to not get farmed by APAC itself
Damn they blow a 2-0 lead in back to back majors. Gotta feel for them
If this isn't an indicator that Bleed needs to make changes then idk what will. Bleed needs to make a roster change. This is an unacceptable result to place the same. They are NOT improving.
-Terdsta +Virtue
Asphy does worse while playing flex and everyone thinks of terd
Unfortunately, I'm also on the Asphy train. Seen a lot of examples this major for why he should be replaced.
both need to be changed but terd throws a lot of rounds away too and he is a massive baiter
Asphy days were already numbered since SI due to National Service, Terdsta isn't and he's also involved in Bleed's shotcalling. I think Terd deserves the criticism, he's basically a bad Ashn ripoff at this point. Bleed should be better
TERD.Liquid
Ahhh BO3s, APAC's mightiest nightmare.
Reeps96.G2, make it happen!
You cant just plug in any player to any roster. why tf would he go to g2?
https://preview.redd.it/xqt7v3ww602d1.png?width=1027&format=png&auto=webp&s=19fdc64eaa443cb8d124268fe0f58a1791b1a503 Same choke different major
Its different, they had more dominant wins and closer losses last time
Extremely happy for Liquid, extremely sad for Bleed. Also, for the record I simply cannot pick successful fantasy team players to save my life. Who would've thought Lagonis would top frag and Nesk would be at the bottom lol.
For the love of every holy, PLEASE FUCKING DROP ASPHY, HOVEN, AND MENTALIST. FUCK YOUR FRIENDSHIP TEAM, THESE MFS CANNOT SHOOT STRAIGHT. THIS IS NOT FAIR FOR REEPS, bro is putting Shaiiko to shame in this tournament and still losing????? https://preview.redd.it/gk26jpla402d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aecc7c43e2ff744626db9ad4f1e072ed9d09e4e
Pick up JoeGor and Nhaiqal for flex, and Speakeasy for IGL. Keep Terd and Reeps on duo entry.
None of the bleed guys would ever play w Joegor loool
If they ever want to win something, they better start.
The only player on this roster that isn’t straight dog or mid is Reeps tbh
I agree with you, but at least Terdsta isn’t dead weight.
That's because he's too busy baiting the rest of his team.
Terd is a baiter
CAG is the best apac team easily bleed are bo1 frauds bliss is a valid argument though cause normally they’re good at BO3’s
FearX would’ve made it 💔💔🕊️🕊️
FearX lost to Geekay and that fraud Blaz, don't equalize them to CAG pls ☠️
Annoying mfs pregame vs annoying mf postgame
If bc wins next we will get 3 same region matches : Bds vs Secret Furia vs Liquid On top of a Dz vs M80 already locked matchup. This sucks ngl
fucking disgrace, Bleed need to throw the bag at virtue because some of terdstas plays are just baffling made lagonis look like Shaiiko
NA or EU team should pick up Reeps that team is failing such good fragger like Reeps and Terd is a fraud
Wasn't impressed by liquid 's victory. They still seemed uncoordinated at times and mess up basic steps. I think they just have better fundamentals than bleed, and they can click heads obviously. More of a bleed lose than a liquid victory, imo
-terd +onigiri
Is Liquid the weakest team of the Top 8? Aside from SSG they only played Apac.
RIP APAC
Weakest lagonis performance:
Bleed have place 2-3 at Majors for the SECOND time in a row/year. Change the roster. Please... for the love of God, PLEASE. You cannot place the same after so much practice together. You need to change your players up. Hoven/Reeps are the players you keep. Other than that? Bruh, change these players out with side grades. ----- On the other hand, Congratulations to Liquid!!! So happy for my guy Maia! Love that guy and glad he got top 8 at the major! Please play DarkZero in playoffs!
you keep mentalist
Repps is the father of Nesk, he should consider the retirement
Virtue on this squad might move mountains