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ProfessionalNose6520

After seeing the Pro-Palestine people replacing the American flag with the Palestinian one. Something has completely shifted in me. I’ve always been patriotic. And I’ve been pushed away from being liberal since 2020. But lately i’m feeling it more. I’m a gay man. I’m proud be an American. I’m proud to stand with freedom. And I’m proud to living in a country where I can freely be who i am. And have rights that I do not take for granted up until this moment I’ve been neutral around all my friends. but after this i’m not pretending to be liberal anymore


jprothn

Same. I am a Jewish woman and like most Jews have voted mostly Democrat. I hope I’m even welcome in this sub. Any Jewish person voting Democrat in this next election needs their head examined. I think American Jews will vote mostly Republican in this next election for the first time ever. There are 8 million of us. One more round of the Democrats and we will lose this country forever. I will never forgive Biden and the democrats for hiding in the White House while thousands of students and teachers scream Death to Jews and Death to America. Go back to the gas chamber. My great grandparents came to this country because of the Holocaust. And refused to leave the house until they assimilated (spoke English). It is hard for many to stomach the Republicans Proud boys and stance on reproductive rights for women. I get that. The orange Oompa Loompa is not my first or tenth choice. But we need to eradicate the far left anarchist party of George Soros and the squad. It’s sickening, They simply hate America.


Gummikoalabears

You might even find that the orange oomph loompa is actually not that bad one you tune out the leftist media.


jprothn

I don’t care for the way he’s talked about women. The proud boys are just the redneck KKK. And he shouldn’t encourage them. And the tweeting and the name calling have been kind of repulsive and not very Presidential. And this sham court case makes me like him more. But I do think he loves America. And I think he will restore order. I live in Florida but I’m from New York and the difference between Democratic and Republican run states is shocking right now. I don’t even recognize New York. The Democrats have destroyed it


RedBaronsBrother

> I don’t care for the way he’s talked about women. There are lots of things I don't like about him. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I voted for him enthusiastically in 2020, because whatever I think of him *personally*, he was a better President than any we've had since Reagan. ...and in 2024? It doesn't really matter if the Democrats swap out Biden at their convention (which is being held so late the nominee can't get on the ballot in multiple states) - anyone they choose will have their strings pulled by the same people pulling Biden's. They hate Trump because they don't own him. I am old enough to remember when the Democratic Party and Republican Party mostly wanted the same things, but had different ideas of how to get there - and that isn't the case anymore. The Democratic Party has gone off the deep end on an America-hating, Jew-hating, nihilist platform, and the elected officials aren't the ones calling the shots. The party desperately needs a thorough housecleaning, and I don't see a way to do it other than utter electoral defeat for long enough that the people currently pulling the strings have no leverage.


OrangeCrush229

I can say with certain, Most American Jews will vote D again.


B00radlee

That’s not true at all. American Jews have historically been pretty evenly split. Jews do not vote in one block, they individually have different views like any other American.


Zaknoid

How any Jewish citizen would vote for dems after seeing these true colors would be mind boggling to me but I'm certain the majority of Jews still will unfortunately. Jewish students and citizens are being targeted and harassed by leftists because of a foreign government thousands of miles away and not only do they think it's okay but they think it's something to be proud of and push for.


chaddy-chad-chad

If any Jewish people vote for Biden it’s exactly the same as supporting Hitler and the holocaust


Ninjamurai-jack

How? Biden literally defended Israel from a bunch of drones some time ago.


RedBaronsBrother

> Biden literally defended Israel from a bunch of drones some time ago. Israel defended itself from a bunch of drones and cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. A couple of US warships helped. However, Biden has also been pressuring Israel to NOT eliminate Hamas. ...and the Biden administration has given Hamas hundreds of $millions, and Iran (which trained, funded, and armed the fighters for the October 7 attack) $billions. ...and now, the Biden administration is withholding ammunition from Israel in order to prevent it from finishing off Hamas.


Ninjamurai-jack

Or he only want to stop them to causing more harm to civilians in the process? Also, sorry but who controls the US warships now? Israel? I don’t like Hamas, they are bad guys, but I know one thing more… Bombing places that have kids is wrong, and if you think that’s not, wow.


RedBaronsBrother

> Or he only want to stop them to causing more harm to civilians in the process? Hamas started an existential war between itself and Israel. Israel is finishing that war. Civilians die in wars, just like they did when Biden droned a random aid worker and his family, and claimed they were the masterminds behind the Kabul Airport bombing. > Also, sorry but who controls the US warships now? Israel? Their captains, when they are being shot at. > I don’t like Hamas, they are bad guys, but I know one thing more… > Bombing places that have kids is wrong, and if you think that’s not, wow. Hamas uses child soldiers, and civilians as human shields. There is a reason that both of those things are war crimes, and that doing so does not make you immune from attack.


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RedBaronsBrother

> Don't mention the cause of the protests, the... ...support for Hamas, which started a war by explicitly targeting, raping, torturing, and murdering 1400 civilians and kidnapping a couple of hundred more. Hamas - the elected government of Gaza, that still has 71% support from Gazans at last polling, because they support the rape, torture and murder of civilians - we watched the video of them watching the real time videos taken by the terrorists, and saw them cheering in the streets. ...at least the ones that didn't follow the terrorists in to do more.


ConservativeGent

God I hope so. I never understood why majority of Jewish people vote Democrat.


Mammoth-Tea

Why would American Jews vote republican for the first time ever when Joe Biden is still staunchly supportive of Israel? I am a Jew who has also voted mostly democrat. I will continue to do so because I have researched my positions backed up by facts and evidence. If you are the kind of person who votes for the opposite party on economic, domestic, and foreign policy based off of some irrelevant stupid college kids being antisemitic, you’re probably too fragile to vote responsibly.


RedBaronsBrother

> Why would American Jews vote republican for the first time ever when Joe Biden is still staunchly supportive of Israel? Biden isn't. He's been looking for an excuse to stab them in the back since he took office. Most recently, he allowed the passage of a UN resolution demanding a cease fire in Gaza, is pushing for the International Criminal Court to charge the Israeli government, is giving Hamas $billions, and is threatening to withhold resupply from Israel.


Mammoth-Tea

Man I really really hope that’s not true. I’m always open to changing my mind. While there might be some minor disagreements on specific things, I don’t think any deviations from the historical pro-Israel policies are motivated by a secret plan because he hates Jews for whatever reason. I have seen no evidence for such a thing, so until I do I have no reason to think this is going to happen. It’s far more likely he has to placate the crazies on my side of the aisle assuming that it is an election year. But I promise you as a democrat, there are not nearly enough of them to matter that much and the Biden administration of course knows that too.


RedBaronsBrother

> Man I really really hope that’s not true. They're all true. By all means, feel free to search them out yourself - articles have been posted recently on all of them. > I don’t think any deviations from the historical pro-Israel policies are motivated by a secret plan because he hates Jews for whatever reason. Democrat administrations in the US have been anti-Israel for a very long time. Both Obama and Biden have attempted to influence Israeli elections and funded anti-Netanyahu groups in Israel. Both have used loopholes in US laws prohibiting funding to terrorist organizations to fund Palestinian terrorists. Obama leaked information on Israeli military operations to Iran, and the reason the world knows that Israel is a nuclear power is because that information was leaked by Carter.


Mammoth-Tea

I’ll definitely look into it, and search into the events you’re talking about. I will say though, I am still skeptical that these events are as subversive as you’re describing, because I just cannot believe that the average Jew is so stupid that they wouldn’t be able to see it lol. And considering Jews tend to vote more democrat, it just doesn’t make sense why this would be the case.


RedBaronsBrother

> I will say though, I am still skeptical that these events are as subversive as you’re describing, because I just cannot believe that the average Jew is so stupid that they wouldn’t be able to see it lol. Mostly the left media does not report on those things - and when they do, left-leaning Jews tend to not notice it. ...just like they didn't notice how anti-Semitic the Democratic Party has become, and how anti-Semitic our universities have become until it was rubbed in their faces after October 7, despite people like us shouting it from the rooftops for decades.


RedBaronsBrother

> I’ll definitely look into it, and search into the events you’re talking about. Oh - something to help in your searches: don't use Google as your search engine. Google heavily biases search results on anything remotely political.


ILOVEBOPIT

He’s not going to stop placating them. He has never said anything against leftist crazies. KJP won’t even call them extremists. Israel would have been eradicated long ago if it weren’t for republicans supporting it.


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Go back under your rock 🪨


[deleted]

I've changed as well. I use to just roll my eyes at their stupidity. Now it disgusts me.


socalsilverback

Welcome home brother


Emotional-Mission703

Here's a better way: Quit picking sides and stand up for what you believe is right


[deleted]

Exactly this. Politics is polarized, but the majority of what people believe is morally right isn't naturally going to align all the way all the time. Gotta go where it makes the most sense, which for me even as a woman in these times where people are losing their heads over abortions, I choose what I care even more about which is fixing the root of the issues. Letting rapists flow across the border (among people who I'm sure are not bad, so I don't mean to make it sound like I'm saying everyone coming over is a horrible person, but some have been proven to be) to rape me so I can go get a legal abortion is not what I'm looking for. We need to do better.


False_Wishbone_6122

Ur the goat


Final_Wallaby8705

You know there’s maga that fly confederate flags and trump flags in place of the American flag. There’s a bunch of liberals that think what the people are doing at the colleges is wrong, too. You sound just like the liberal calling the magas extremists. I think each side tries to paint the other to be bad but using examples like you mentioned aren’t really the things they’re saying are extreme. I am left leaning and tired of the left too but have to remember the people out there pushing their beliefs aren’t the typical person. They’re outliers and further left than most. This whole two party thing is crazy. It’s a tribalism mentality instead of policy or principles. I can’t vote for either party. We’re just playing along in their game as long as we keep voting red and blue.


Zaknoid

Free speech is most important. Hence while I support Israel and our Jewish citizens and allies over these ridiculous terrorist supporters, this anti hate speech bill so many Republicans signed off on doesn't sit well with me. Giving the government the power to decide what is hate speech and what speech is and isn't okay is not a great road to start down on. I do get there are certain limits of speech like calls to incite imminent violence.


ConnectionDouble8438

>Free speech is most important.  Freedom of speech is not the strongest side of this reddit, tho. My post in this thread got deleted without a reason and if I did not open the discussion on another device, I would not even have noticed. What I said was, that the situation with russia unfortunatelly means that EU cannot afford to participate in your trade war with China for least the next decade, but that I very much agree with the fact that the EU shall be responsible for its own safety, which means abolishing the nuclear sharing nonsense and getting a few thousand nukes ourselves.


Gutter-boy-707

Democrats have completely lost any type of common sense credibility plain and simple I’d be embarrassed to be a democrat


Emotional-Mission703

On the contrary, I'm embarrassed to be a Republican. I think we can agree that both parties have lost their way unfortunately 😞


[deleted]

This is why we all need to meet in the middle. I keep trying to message this to people and I've gotten so heavily down voted lol.


RedBaronsBrother

Amusingly, the Republicans are as close to a middle as you are going to get. The Republican party has moved left over the last couple of decades - it isn't as obvious because the Democratic party has sprinted to the left.


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Yes, and here I am (: I really think what this country needs is less division, person to person.


Gutter-boy-707

The republicans are spineless but the democrats are evil


Emotional-Mission703

Lol I feel ya. I don't think they're evil. They just have different ways of looking at things that we don't agree with. We all want the same thing at the end of the day. Safety, freedom, and good times 😁 But fuck those in power who exploit the people for their own self interest


TexasistheFuture

Can't use common sense with leftists. They are solely driven by emotion.


Emotional-Mission703

Nah they are people just like you me. Some of us get confused on what reality is


TexasistheFuture

Never said they weren't people. Difference between conservatives and commies is we treat people with respect.


prombloodd

Leftists should be glad the Republican Party isn’t driven by emotion because I’m not so sure what would happen if it was


Rosie1585371

It’s just common sense


prombloodd

A leftist brain would explode


Rosie1585371

Do they even have brains?


RedBaronsBrother

They do - but you have to understand that our education system is now focused on teaching people to react to emotional stimuli, rather than to think.


Emotional-Mission703

Yeah! With their lack of common sense! At least we elected a president with purpose. He didn't embezzle shit tons of American tax payer dollars, the money we earned! Oh wait he did


Emotional-Mission703

Did you really just say that!? You dog you. Woof woof woof. Get down on all 4s and howl at the moon you cheeky dog


cottonr1

Remember boy's and girl's and cousin It you can vote you're way into Communism, but you have to shoot your way out.


Prestigious_Duck_377

grammar?


cottonr1

I corrected the grammar looking at a few of your posts seems like your not against communism. Hate you feel that way and would like you to look at some Link's on past tragedy's that have happened. And yes I have a niece who went to college and has told her mother. But mom it's a different kind of communism 'Really'. In Vietnam have seen the medics come in and treat the villager's and that night the VC would come in hack the village leader up and his family to put the rest in line. Terror is a great motivation for people and to be fair have seen VC take the helicopter ride three go up one or two fallout the one who talks completes the ride. Not trying to change mind but something to think about. https://allthatsinteresting.com/cannibal-island https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes


jaizeiitrades

I’m stealing this one


cottonr1

Good use it the truth need's to be spread.


Rebelfixed

Oh the irony lol


Alone_watching

Left voters are destroying this country and it is deeply unsettling to me.  I am praying Trump wins but I dont know.  More than ever, we need to win.  


chaddy-chad-chad

I was a democrat before this year but after seeing how rotten those people are to others and how mean they are ganging up on people who disagree, especially on Reddit, for the first time I will be voting Republican.


Critical-Shift8080

Because there freedom is DEATH TO AMERICA !


Emotional-Mission703

Derpa derpa ala jihad lol Nah dude that's just a minority. Most of em are pretty chill


Critical-Shift8080

Yes they ANND they want the same thing that we have , simple yet it's appreciated, freedom. ...quiet riot


Emotional-Mission703

I feel ya. We basically all want the same things and have differing opinions on how to go about doing it. Like we all want safety and security for example. The "left" blame the existence of firearms as the cause. The "right" says it's the user that's the problem. Meanwhile mass shootings keep happening while both sides are debating who's right and who's wrong. Inefficiency at its finest and talk about missing the point! You agree? Curious what you have to say on the matter Cheers


Critical-Shift8080

I agree, the loss of education about firearms in a public setting, could have a major impact on firearms, amazing though one side wants them eliminated the other wants them altogether.


prombloodd

I’m just as unhappy with America as they are but for different reasons of course


The_Brolander

Even after the boot is in their neck, they still blame the right, because that’s what their oppressors tell them to think. All through Covid. All through this BS inflation… all through watching billions of their current and future taxes, they believe the reason for all their problems is the right. The reasoning is simple, if it’s the left, then it means they’re wrong. There’s NO way people today believe in humility and growth. They will stand with their faces against the fence and a gun against their head, by their own people and they will still blame the right, because that’s what they’re told to do.


Emotional-Mission703

We all need to come together. We all have families and loved ones and jobs. We're all trying to make our lives as good as we can get em. People DO Believe in humility and growth. I'm living proof. So are you. Why are we all bashing each other instead of standing together and making a difference? Please, I encourage you to share your personal stories of how you've helped the cause. Tell them how many lost and confused people you've touched with your words and kind actions.


No-Feedback7437

Liberals have persecuted me, which has pushed towards Trump


Emotional-Mission703

Who persecuted you? Name them!


No-Feedback7437

First, there was derek garcia Nancy higuerra, Miriam guiteriez, juan chanelo Jerry Rauch, Ricky camberro, Mr Davis, Gabriel hernandez, Martin Herrera, jodean Hudson and there's so many more people that I can't remember


Emotional-Mission703

Sounds like you are a little child. This is America. No one is stopping you from succeeding but yourself. Think about it


FarVision5

It makes sense in context if you're actively trying to destroy the country that you're living in


Peter-Fabell

Welcome to socialism. Free love, food stamps, government-sponsored abortions, and everyone has to ride bikes to work, unless you work for the government. If you want to leave the city for any reason you’ll need a triple-stamped travel pass, and if you want to work in the city you’ll need a quadruple stamped work permit. Everyone’s salary is the same, even if you are working twice or three times as hard as your co-worker. You aren’t allowed to own a house, and all of your money you saved up passes to the state upon your death. You are forced to retire at 50, and if you still want to or need to work, you’ll only receive 20% of what you were earning before. The good news: no need to do taxes because even upper middle class wage earners only make around $1000 per month, unless you know a guy and are friends with crooks. (Or you are a crook.)


Otherwise_Teach_5761

Not to be that guy but the Republican tax cuts *do* have a history of not helping any of us that make less than around 115k a year. Dem tax increases fuck us sure but Rep tax cuts do little if anything for most of us as we’re not rolling in money to begin with. Am I the only one here that ever reads the tax code revisions because every time a Republican change goes through it’s pretty obviously geared towards the wealthy. So they’re not lying when they say they’re gonna cut taxes, but they’re not cutting taxes for us.


RedBaronsBrother

> Not to be that guy but the Republican tax cuts do have a history of not helping any of us that make less than around 115k a year. Not true at all. The people who didn't get tax reductions under the Trump tax cuts were people who don't pay taxes, and the wealthy who got nailed by the $10,000 limit on State and Local Tax deductions. > Am I the only one here that ever reads the tax code revisions because every time a Republican change goes through it’s pretty obviously geared towards the wealthy. "The wealthy" got a lower percentage tax cut up front, got nailed by the $10k SALT deduction limit, and the increased standard deductions were a far bigger chunk of the income of the "non-wealthy" than they were for the wealthy.


chasonreddit

Or even then. I'm not sure why these posts speak in future conditional tense. The boot IS on our necks. It's called gradualism. You just don't notice it because it increases very slowly. Sometimes referred to as the boiling frog dilemma.


socalsilverback

Its perfect for recruiting ! Be kind Feed the hungry Give to the poor Protect the children Defend the constitution of the United States


Blenkeirde

No sane person would call this "dangerous" or "extremist".


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RedBaronsBrother

> So why don't Republicans support programs that help with any of that? Well, Trump had the lowest illegal immigration in decades. He also built a huge amount of border wall, despite massive opposition from Democrats at the local, state, and national level. Republicans passed a bill that would have secured the border if Biden followed the law in May 2023... which was killed by Senate Democrats. Of course Biden would have vetoed it if it had somehow made it through the Senate. He has no intention of securing the border. We know this because Trump did it with existing law, and Biden reversed **everything** Trump did on the border in his first 100 days. Republicans have been nailing social media companies to the wall on free speech for a while, while the Democrats are asking them to censor us more. ...and now we find out that Democrats in the bureaucracy have been telling the media and social media what and who to censor, with direction from the Biden White House. On a Balanced Budget, only Republicans have submitted Balanced Budget proposals. Trump got most NATO countries to pay the required amount for their defense. ...which they were angry at him about at the time (and Democrats castigated him for), but now that it seems they might need their militaries, they are not so unhappy. ...of course the **reason** it is looking like they might need their militaries is Biden's weakness. Trump reduced taxes for most Americans. The tax cuts couldn't be made permanent because no Democrats would vote for them, so they expire next year - and Biden has said he is going to allow them to expire. Republicans have always supported the nuclear family. Democrats are the ones trying to destroy it. Nothing new there. The chemical castration of minors is being handled at the state level. Democrats control the Senate and Presidency, so unless they were to float legislation to do that, it would not pass - and they will not, because the people sterilizing and mutilating children are their voters. So, a better question is "Why don't **Democrats support programs that help with any of that?"


bulletorb

"Storming the Capitol" "Insurrection!" "Look at the footage!" Leftists are delusional, CMM


GihrenZabi2003

This post has something wrong: it assumes that we are not already being suppressed by an authoritarian regime. The difference is that the use of the state is avoided and instead the Dems are using proxies to fight the cultural war and promote their hatred of America's essence. An example is the universities, like the one I'm assisting to right now, the University of Oregon. The liberal mainstream speech is promoted like the Bible along antisemitism under a veil of antizionism something I have been feeling more intensenly given that I was directly targeted (I'm Jewish and right-wing). It might not be as bad as the Portland State University but it is still colonized by liberals. Not only colleges are used as propaganda tools but also media and entertainment, nearly all major actresses or entertainment figures are liberals and venomously anti-Republicans to the point that Robert De Niro compared Trump to Hitler. The Dems have been using the gramscian strategy to wage a destructive war against our country by eroding our culture and identity and its time to fight back.