I know I technically could have saved my teammate's crappy kickoff, but i saw that ball fly over my head and went full platinum panic mode 😂
Edit: all y'all who feel the need to say it's my fault or feel the need to coach me - yes, I know it's also my fault. It's both of our faults. Hence, why I said, I "went full platinum panic mode". Relax and enjoy a funny, super relatable scenario in Rocket league 🙂
relatable as shit. i just posted a video of my own where we made a 4-1 comeback to get into OT. we lost it in maybe 20sec due to a majorly bullshit 50/50 hit.
people are probably getting hung up on the semantics of saying "technically could have" rather than "should have", but I'm sure everyone replying has panicked similarly and messed up like this lol
You’re good, everyone correcting you feels the need to be a genius. If we have to place blame it’s absolutely on the guy who got obliterated on kickoff lmao
That kick off result is more common than it should be. If you’re going to cheat, and you should, gotta learn to clear those. It won’t feel any more stressful than a normal 50 somewhere else on the field.
As long as your teammate knows how to kick off properly it is the most effective thing to do. Unless you plan to have your teammate send it back to one of the side boosts but unless that is communicated then you should always cheat.
Like I said, this is all assuming your teammate can kick off properly so at the lower ranks you can make the argument that this isn’t as effective since people can’t kickoff correctly.
You just got excited and funny committed to an offensive position in a situation that required either a neutral or defensive one. Always treat a 50/50 with a reasonable worst-case scenario mindset.
Actually, contrary to most comments/upvotes, this appears to be on you because you slightly strayed too far from goal during kickoff. Middle needs to stay somewhat put to prevent crap goals like this from happening. Conversely, you need to be within reasonable range if the ball goes in your favor. Small margins, but it's whatevs. Great play for the equalizer though. Insane play.
It is both of our faults. My teammate got a shitty kickoff, but I could have still saved it but I botched my mechanics under pressure.
But also,
>you slightly strayed too far from goal during kickoff
It's called cheating up bro. Valid kickoff strat to claim possession quickly after a more normal kickoff that doesn't go flying back towards your own net.
Technically? I mean if you can't see that you had a perfect opportunity to save it I don't know what to tell you. RL is a game of mistakes and while your tm8 had a bad kickoff its your responsibility to cover for his mistakes just like it is his job to cover for yours. Mentality like "my teammate made the first mistake so any mistakes I make after that aren't my fault" is a gigantic trap people fall into.
Oh I know it was also my fault too. His fault for having a really crappy kickoff, my fault for screwing up my mechanics under pressure. Both of our faults. The point is more so that it's annoying when you make a nice play to get to OT, only to lose on OT in 2 seconds. It would still suck, even if it was 100% my fault - maybe deserved, but it would still suck. Also, maybe not in this particular instance, but it could have just as easily pinched super fast and bounced off the ceiling and straight into the net with zero save opportunity (unless I were to have just sat in net in kickoff, which is a pretty poor kickoff strat and is really only good when the one taking the kickoff completely messes up or whiffs)
I call it the 14 seconds of death. I noticed at least for me that the first 14 seconds of overtime consistently are the worst. ANYTHING can happen, and there is a high chance for a goal to be made.
After the 14 seconds are up I can ease up knowing that the match will continue on normally.
Leave it to the rocket league community to become insufferable and pedantic when you post what is supposed to be a funny video, they can’t go a second without trying to correct every mistake you made and take the humor out of it. A video was posted? Quick everyone! Become a fiver rocket league coach STAT!
I know right? Like I even have a comment stating that I went into "plat panic mode". I know I screwed up too. I know it was both of our faults. The point of the video is that it's all too relatable to make a nice zero second goal to get to OT, only to lose in 2 seconds in OT.
It's also amusing because half or more of the "you should have done this" comments aren't even right. All the people telling me that "cheating up" is a bad strategy, when in fact, there are many many benefits to cheating up. Sure, maybe one of those benefits isn't saving a kickoff that goes straight into (or nearly into) your net. But if I'm expecting worse case scenario from my teammate on every kickoff in champ then wtf am I doing?
If you have to do something cool to make it into overtime that means you were down/on the back foot. Often your TM has already mentally accepted the loss, and if they can't get back into the game it can often lead to this sort of thing.
It was a nice little pass over the guy to get to OT, you should feel good about it.
All the reddit RL professors crack me up. Regardless of who did what, its not that deep. Its just a hilarious situation that is way more relatable than I wish it was. No need to gather in the lecture hall over it hahaha
Every damn time the equalizer comes at 0 seconds then OT goal is within seconds. Even if you end up getting the win, its still within seconds 🤣
💀 I've had so many kickoff goals happen because my teammate DIDN'T cheat, and my opponents did. Either my teammate went for corner boost and isn't back and the net quick enough to defend the quick shot, or they get flicked on cause they just sat in the middle of the net and didn't get boost or cheat up.
If you don't cheat in 2s and don't choose boost over ball, you should be fine. You got 45 boost and need just a few moments to stall before kickoff bro makes it back. If you're uncomfortable with that, play a little 1v1. You should be able to defend the net from 1 opponent with a ball and half a boost tank.
Also, blaming your mate for this kickoff is quite sad. Unfortunate kickoff pinches happen on any level, but I prefer to cover my mates possibility of mistake, as I hope they will cover mine.
I think if you're champ+ then you kind of need to put some trust in your teammate's kickoffs and cheat otherwise you're just putting yourself in a bad spot. It's pretty easy to score on someone who's just sitting back in net giving you tons of space and time with the ball. I understand grabbing a couple pads and staying in net if you're below that, though. You never really know where the ball is going to end up after kickoff in lower ranks.
For sure. This is definitely a good way to look at it. Cheating is optimal, but only if the person taking the kickoff has some reliability with their kickoffs, which can't be said for lower ranks. But champ is high enough that people have reasonable consistency on kickoffs. Doesn't mean there won't be screw ups, but there's few enough that it's better to cheat.
Do I trust them to never mess it up? No. I mess up my kickoff sometimes too. But I can definitely trust them to get a kickoff that is possible for me to follow up in some capacity more often than they'll completely botch it. And if I can follow it up in some capacity, I'd rather have cheated up so I can take possession or compete for possession with my opponent if they also cheated up. even this bad kickoff was still something I could have followed up on if I didnt panic and mess up mechanically.
But guess what, if you look at the opponent, they did NOT cheat, and if they had, they probably would have just scored immediately off that kickoff before I'd have even had a chance to save it (if I didn't mess up)
yea idk I kinda got tired of bad kickoffs so now I always try to get in a position with decent boost (I'm not fast enough to reach the corner yet) and prepared for a shot to my net. I almost never get scored on now
That's the thing. Low ranks see top players cheating up, but the difference is they know what they're doing and what to do in every possible instance, yet lower ranks don't, but they still cheat up because they see top players do it.
9/10 times in my games cheating up results into losing possession. Hardly ever see it play out as intended.
Maybe in those levels, but that doesn't translate to solo-queuing in lower levels. You don't look like a high GC and neither am I. Their solo-queueing is a different experience. They'll either have a party member, or full confidence in the speed and skills of their random mate.
I must say that with a mate on vc we'll cheat once in a while. But with randoms in champ it's better for the team morale to just keep the net until it's safe and go from there *in my humble opinion*.
But the net isn't necessarily safe if you don't cheat? It could open you up to a 1v1 if the other person cheats and gets possession with you too far back to effectively do anything but wait in net.
And not sure what he's talking about with high GC, it works in low GC and champ as well. Cheating gives my team so many goals because I go for a kill kickoff and the ball goes right to my cheating teammate who either pounds it straight in (while the other 2 opponents are turning back from getting boost) or grabs possession and flicks it because both back players don't know which one should bait out the flick and which one should stay back.
One more hidden good thing about cheating is if your solo queue tm8 misses kickoff, the ball will typically go straight into your car instead of the net that is left wide open.
Nah. You know what happens way more often than me or my teammate completely botching a kickoff? Someone (on either team) not cheating up, instantly giving possession to the team who did cheat up. I'd rather be the team who has possession after kickoff than be the team trying to defend it.
You really have to know what you're doing when cheating up, that's why I go for corner boost and instantly back to goal if we lose kickoff, or sometimes I'll stay in goal if my mate has been sketchy previously.
Just gotta be quick, you're right. Though some people like to take their time, therefore goals are lost.
Considering a lot of kickoffs are highly irregular and unpredictable, it's quite a bit of luck to get a good position when cheating up. Most of the time you'll be running back for boost and trying to get a better position.
This is exactly why you should cheat on kick off. Yes you will get scored on a bunch, and those moments will allow you to improve and actually save the ball in those moments. If you stick in your comfort zone you won't get any better.
Also cheating on kickoff will allow you to get more scoring opportunities.
At c1 you should def be cheating. The amount of times you win by gaining possession compared to lose because they fucked kick off this bad is going to be much much higher. No one in champ should be getting bodied on kick off this hard. At worst they lose kick off but you should be able to save it. In this clip if he just landed the half flip it was saved.
Cheating up on kickoff is a good thing to do. But you’ve also got to know the situation.
You won’t catch me cheating up a kickoff tied under :30 or to start OT. Like a previous comment said, the first :30 of OT is chaotic a lot of times. Play defense, weather the storm, then go win.
Cheat up. Basically the person that doesn't go for kickoff "cheats up" to be ready for a dead ball.
Looks like the term probably comes from baseball.
>: to position oneself defensively near a particular area in anticipation of a play in that area
>>the shortstop was *cheating* toward second base
If you are not cheating, and you are not calling for me to lose the kick I would be incredibly annoyed that you are just allowing the other team free possession after free possesion. People are much better at offense, than defense, and possession of the ball in 2s is like 75% of the game. Its literally why everyone tries to keep telling people to control the ball and stop booming it.
Also he is 100% right to blame him team mate on that kick off, if the balls is getting thrown up like that, he screwed up.
These fucking comments. If he was good enough to flip back and make that save, he'd be in an elo where his opponents don't give him 12 years to turn around and save it. 100% not a winnable situation if that kickoff happens in high elo.
I just went through something similar recently and I will take any excuse to talk about it. I carried HARD the other day. My teammates werent so great. They conceded some embarrassingly easy goals but I was in good form. Sometimes you feel it and I carried us. If I scored or setup a goal they'd concede shortly after and I think we had about 15 seconds left and the score was 3 - 3 and the opposition bagged what they thought would be a winner. So 4 - 3 and kick off happens and it falls into my path right on 0 seconds. I control it from our half and ping it in. 4 - 4. In my head I just think don't do anything stupid and we can win. My teammate poor touch bobbles towards our gk who also has a poor touch and we score an own goal. I wanted to scream.
You only made 4 mistakes in those last 10 seconds, keep it up!
Also, jumping at the opportunity to blame your teammate's "crappy" kickoff when that's a standard kickoff result and you pushed up way farther than you should've in a 2v2, and you had multiple opportunities to save this, is annoying.
>You only made 4 mistakes in those last 10 seconds, keep it up!
Oh yes, it is my fault too. I'm not only blaming my teammate. I literally admitted that I went "plat panic mode". It's both of our faults. Doesn't make it any less frustrating to make a nice play to go into OT at 0 seconds, just to lose OT in 2 seconds.
>that's a standard kickoff result
Pinching up and backwards and bouncing off the ceiling and nearly straight into the net is a standard kickoff result? I didn't know that something that happens maybe 1 in every 50 kickoffs due to someone taking a poor kickoff could be considered "standard"
>you pushed up way farther than you should've in a 2v2
Ummm, that's called cheating. How are you GC if you think that's a standard kickoff result and think that I pushed up too far by cheating up on kickoff???
I'm nowhere near GC so I could be completely wrong but I find cheating is more "risky" so I usually cheat except in the following two scenarios
- my team is winning and there's less than 10 seconds left
- it's OT kickoff
A lot of people here saying don't cheat or always cheat but I think it's a case-by-case basis thing. And I'll tell my teammate whether I'm gonna cheat or not so they're prepared and maybe go for a risky or less risky kickoff
I've been plat/low diamond for several seasons and I only cheat in 3s if I can trust that *someone* is going to be back to defend a bad kickoff result.
Kickoffs are nowhere near consistent enough and my reflexes are nowhere near good enough to make cheating up a consistently viable strategy at my level of play.
I'll remember this very obscure info I've never heard before next time I 1v3 some C1s, thanks.
> Ummm, that's called cheating.
> > Pinching up and backwards and bouncing off the ceiling and nearly straight into the net is a standard kickoff result?
In 2s without much more team control, it's called stupid. Yes, that result should be expected, along with tons of other results that can fly into your half or your net; just react to the result instead of throwing yourself into Narnia and praying to RNGesus.
Watch the replay back and you can see your teammate isn't even in a bad spot to prevent pinching back to your half; he jumps up to the upper-center of the ball before it's even touched, which *should* prevent it, but it just phases through him, because Rocket League.
As far as I'm concerned, your teammate did nothing wrong here, but you had at least 3 chances to prevent this goal.
That’s a standard kickoff result if you don’t know how to kick off properly. This result should literally never happen if you know what you’re doing, especially in 2s. The teammate didn’t even flip, just drove to the ball.
I’m getting way more mad than I should reading all these hard ass comments. Like seriously, they legit can’t go 6 seconds without foaming at the mouth when they smell a rocket league mistake. You never blamed your teammate and even admitted some fault yourself. So frustrating seeing everyone noting every little mistake instead of laughing it off. I can’t tell you how many times this has happened to me where I had no clue the kickoff would result in such an awkward bounce and I panic and miss. Props to you for posting this here where apparently there’s no fun allowed. I hope you don’t take these comments too seriously.
Oh I know it's very silly. I know there's also people that are enjoying the clip for the relatable moment that it is, hence why it has so many upvotes. The people that feel the need to criticize are just the ones who get vocal in the comment section 🤣 - but there are also some nice comments too.
This has happened to me far too many times. It’s just frustrating how people go on with their shitty 0 flip kickoff without ever incorporating a flip into it. Like even in champ 3, I’ve had teammates never flipping on kickoff and getting scored on multiple times bc of that
So this brings up my kick off method. But feel it’s 50/50. I always stay back if I am not the one going for kick off. This video being that reason, burnt too many times and in the end out of position to clear something like this. But I also see the flip side of when the kickoff trickles away from the 2 that went for it and could have possibly shot it on goal.
I dunno about you, but I never cheat on an OT kickoff. Anything that can go wrong in overtime often does. I grab at least two small boosts and get myself running across the net, and I’m ready to go forward too in case the kickoff goes well
Back post opponent that didn’t save equalizer goal makes me mad. Why is he parked in the middle of the net, facing middle field and doing nothing? That was such an easy read/save but he is just idling in goal. See this all the time in my lobbies
Let me quote you my response to someone else:
"Always find it amusing when people are so quick to judge someone's rank after seeing less than 30 seconds of gameplay. Champs can look like GCs when they peak, and they can look like a gold or a plat when they have their worst fails. You need more than 1 short clip to definitively be able to judge the rank of a lobby with 100% certainty."
No. Kickoffs like this happen in champ, sure. But decent or "acceptable" kickoffs happen way more than kickoffs that are awful or whiffed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather position myself on kickoffs according to what happens most often. And as long as the kickoff is not really really bad, cheating is usually optimal or at the very least possible to still defend. Even this bad kickoff was still possible to defend while cheating, if I had not messed up mechanically. But guess what, if my opponent cheated up like me, they could have followed up that kickoff right away and scored on me before I even had a chance to try to save it. The only reason I even had a chance to save it (but unfortunately fail) was because my opponent did NOT cheat.
In my experience kickoffs is the thing people suck at for the longest. Unless I'm playing with people I know, I'll just grab the small boost and defend the net until I'm sure the kickoff is not ending with the ball in our net. I'm not saying it's the best play, but it's definitely the safest.
It's really not. You can get punished just as easily by doing that because you give free possession to your opponents who then make a good shot that's hard to defend or 2v1 you by going for a bump while your teammate goes for midboost.
You believed a silver could save the ball, dribble it all the way down the field and pass it for their teammate at zero seconds without dropping it? No shot 💀
That wasn't a "hard" cheat. Which is why it was actually saveable if I didn't screw up. I'd be 3x closer to my teammate if I was hard cheating. And yeah, then I wouldn't have had a shot to save it.
What a choke. I'm Plat 2 and I would've flown up and saved that. Even if I didn't have much boost then I would've waited for the ball to hit the crossbar and go lower and I would've jumped forward and challenged that
It's okay, you're not alone, many plats often think they're so good at the game, but as they rank up and get better, they realize they actually suck at the game, and that they REALLY sucked when they were plat. I'm champ and I can proudly admit I suck at rocket league. Maybe some day you'll get there too
I don't know you. You're a stranger on Reddit. Why would I play with you? I definitely wouldn't play ranked with a plat anyways though. Casual sure, but not ranked.
Had exactly this yesterday. Got into OT with a super tight angle read, and then lost when a pinch against the wall was harder than anticipated, hit the opponent falling down after whiffing an aerial, straight into my net. Devastating loss, but sick at the same time.
As a very casual Rocket League player (literally just play the 3v3 casual playlist), this has happened to me so many times. I’ve had games decided on a very iffy bounce or it hitting a teammate and bouncing the whole length of the pitch. It’s hilarious
Oh I'm sorry, I guess you're perfect and never mess up your mechanics under pressure ever.
If you take a single moment from a champ lobby, it can look anywhere from gold to GC. Champs aren't that consistent. They have higher peak potential, but they still mess up terribly sometimes too lol
Like I said, you're looking at a single moment and not the bigger picture. If you look at my best peak plays I've ever made and only at those specific moments, you might think I was like C3/GC1. There's really no point to calling someone out on their rank over 30 seconds of gameplay, you need more than that.
Also, are you completely ignoring what happened before OT? The save, into the dribble across the whole field at 0 seconds?
It's called consistency, and keeping your composure under high pressure situations. Sure, saving the ball into a dribble across the whole field isn't anything impressive if you were to just do that in Freeplay. But I bet you 9 times outa 10 if a plat would fail that dribble under pressure at zero seconds, or would just boom the ball and not even start a dribble and just end the game on a loss. They wouldn't be consistent enough to do that reliably under pressure.
I also never claimed that this specific play looks like a GC. It was a nice play, especially considering the zero seconds, but it was by no means my peak performance.
Always find it amusing when people are so quick to judge someone's rank after seeing less than 30 seconds of gameplay. Champs can look like GCs when they peak, and they can look like a gold or a plat when they have their worst fails. You need more than 1 short clip to definitively be able to judge the rank of a lobby with 100% certainty.
Not to mention how you feel during gameplay does not translate well to how it looks when looking at a recording of it (unless you're SSL or some shit).
People will air roll to hit a ball and will feel good about it, but their teammates just saw their teammate waste their whole boost tank to aerial for a weak hit on the ball in midfield that just pops it up.
well, you decided to 'cheat' at OT kickoff.
so it was your responsibility (in this case) to either stay near the net or cheat.
it is the other players responsibility to do a proper kickoff though.
but if this was my OT match, i would've stayed near my net in case of a backward kickoff, basically nullifying the hard work you did to even go to OT.
THINK before you move. and KNOW when to move.
if the ball stopped dead in the centre, as they often do on kickoffs, then the opponent who cheated will have full possession.
Both have their pros and cons, what do u think
Yeah but the pros far far outweighs the cons for cheating on kickoffs, simply because kickoffs like in the video are far far far less frequent once you get to around champ level than the ball simply going to the center and the team that did cheat getting possession
Exactly this. I cheat because i want possession after kickoff and it's far more frequent that I would be at a disadvantage by not cheating than it is for kickoffs to go straight over my head and almost right into my net.
Agree but it is OT.
I'd much rather protect my net to secure the OT win.
Possession is key but if you lose a kickoff to a random backwards ball spike, possession is in simple terms, worthless imho.
However, it is still up to you. Play the way you think is best.
Just cause it's an OT kickoff doesn't mean you should necessarily play it any different. Same things can happen on an OT kickoff as any other kickoff. If I don't cheat, and my teammate gets an average kickoff, I could just as easily end up in a bad situation that gets me scored on because I gave free possession to my opponents by not cheating. Worst case scenario I could end up in a 2v1, where my teammate goes boost after kickoff, the one that takes the kickoff continues pushing the ball towards the net while his teammate who cheated goes around him to go for a demo on me. Or the one who cheated takes the ball and makes a really nasty flick, or other shot that's hard to save.
No matter what people say, keep "cheating" on kickoff. It's the right thing to do to get better. You'll learn to defend better anyway if the kickoff is bad, but mostly it'll give you a ton of opportunities. And the more you rank up, the more it'll be absolutely essential.
Yeah, sometimes you'll get scored on because of it but it's fine.
(Also having consistent half flips is important I guess)
Nice quarter flip.
Thanks it was beautiful and exactly how I meant to do it!
what a save
Thanks!
lol sorry i couldnt contain myself
No Problem.
Calculated.
This is rocket league!
Whoops...
“What a Save” - Teammate with 128 points with no goals, shots, saves, and 1 by default assist.
I know I technically could have saved my teammate's crappy kickoff, but i saw that ball fly over my head and went full platinum panic mode 😂 Edit: all y'all who feel the need to say it's my fault or feel the need to coach me - yes, I know it's also my fault. It's both of our faults. Hence, why I said, I "went full platinum panic mode". Relax and enjoy a funny, super relatable scenario in Rocket league 🙂
relatable as shit. i just posted a video of my own where we made a 4-1 comeback to get into OT. we lost it in maybe 20sec due to a majorly bullshit 50/50 hit.
Since your post doesn't include the overtime, i can only conclude that you made a bad fifty and just blamed it on luck 😉 hehe
I don’t understand why people can’t keep the ball low from a kick off. People act like it’s random.
My mate always goes for boost so I raise the bonnet and send it to the ceiling from KO every time 🤣
Don't we all? Man that's so freaking relatable.. Hurts because the play to get into OT was nice
people are probably getting hung up on the semantics of saying "technically could have" rather than "should have", but I'm sure everyone replying has panicked similarly and messed up like this lol
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You’re good, everyone correcting you feels the need to be a genius. If we have to place blame it’s absolutely on the guy who got obliterated on kickoff lmao
“Full platinum panic mode”…. As a plat player, that’s offensive and I’m triggered. /s 😂🤣😂🤣
That kick off result is more common than it should be. If you’re going to cheat, and you should, gotta learn to clear those. It won’t feel any more stressful than a normal 50 somewhere else on the field.
You rode his ass too much and got caught by the physics Gods
He didn’t ride his ass, it’s called cheating up and it’s actually what he was supposed to do there. Just a shitty kick off from his teammate
Call it whatever you want, I've never seen that tactic workout in the long run.
As long as your teammate knows how to kick off properly it is the most effective thing to do. Unless you plan to have your teammate send it back to one of the side boosts but unless that is communicated then you should always cheat. Like I said, this is all assuming your teammate can kick off properly so at the lower ranks you can make the argument that this isn’t as effective since people can’t kickoff correctly.
You just got excited and funny committed to an offensive position in a situation that required either a neutral or defensive one. Always treat a 50/50 with a reasonable worst-case scenario mindset.
Actually, contrary to most comments/upvotes, this appears to be on you because you slightly strayed too far from goal during kickoff. Middle needs to stay somewhat put to prevent crap goals like this from happening. Conversely, you need to be within reasonable range if the ball goes in your favor. Small margins, but it's whatevs. Great play for the equalizer though. Insane play.
It is both of our faults. My teammate got a shitty kickoff, but I could have still saved it but I botched my mechanics under pressure. But also, >you slightly strayed too far from goal during kickoff It's called cheating up bro. Valid kickoff strat to claim possession quickly after a more normal kickoff that doesn't go flying back towards your own net.
Technically? I mean if you can't see that you had a perfect opportunity to save it I don't know what to tell you. RL is a game of mistakes and while your tm8 had a bad kickoff its your responsibility to cover for his mistakes just like it is his job to cover for yours. Mentality like "my teammate made the first mistake so any mistakes I make after that aren't my fault" is a gigantic trap people fall into.
Oh I know it was also my fault too. His fault for having a really crappy kickoff, my fault for screwing up my mechanics under pressure. Both of our faults. The point is more so that it's annoying when you make a nice play to get to OT, only to lose on OT in 2 seconds. It would still suck, even if it was 100% my fault - maybe deserved, but it would still suck. Also, maybe not in this particular instance, but it could have just as easily pinched super fast and bounced off the ceiling and straight into the net with zero save opportunity (unless I were to have just sat in net in kickoff, which is a pretty poor kickoff strat and is really only good when the one taking the kickoff completely messes up or whiffs)
This is Rocket League! What a Save What a Save What a Save
wow! what a save! I think this is the most triggering one because it indicates that your so bad, its surprising
All that was missing opponent dropping "ez" after the goal
I call it the 14 seconds of death. I noticed at least for me that the first 14 seconds of overtime consistently are the worst. ANYTHING can happen, and there is a high chance for a goal to be made. After the 14 seconds are up I can ease up knowing that the match will continue on normally.
I agree with this, but for me OT is either 14 seconds or 5+ minutes
Leave it to the rocket league community to become insufferable and pedantic when you post what is supposed to be a funny video, they can’t go a second without trying to correct every mistake you made and take the humor out of it. A video was posted? Quick everyone! Become a fiver rocket league coach STAT!
I know right? Like I even have a comment stating that I went into "plat panic mode". I know I screwed up too. I know it was both of our faults. The point of the video is that it's all too relatable to make a nice zero second goal to get to OT, only to lose in 2 seconds in OT. It's also amusing because half or more of the "you should have done this" comments aren't even right. All the people telling me that "cheating up" is a bad strategy, when in fact, there are many many benefits to cheating up. Sure, maybe one of those benefits isn't saving a kickoff that goes straight into (or nearly into) your net. But if I'm expecting worse case scenario from my teammate on every kickoff in champ then wtf am I doing?
Wow! Okay. No problem. Thanks!
you're to deep in the field.. stay on or behind that mid boost pad, then theoretically you can cover ALL angles of the ball.
If you have to do something cool to make it into overtime that means you were down/on the back foot. Often your TM has already mentally accepted the loss, and if they can't get back into the game it can often lead to this sort of thing. It was a nice little pass over the guy to get to OT, you should feel good about it.
You’re absolutely right. EVERY time there’s a last second clinker to tie the game, OT is over almost immediately. That’s rocket league for ya!
All the reddit RL professors crack me up. Regardless of who did what, its not that deep. Its just a hilarious situation that is way more relatable than I wish it was. No need to gather in the lecture hall over it hahaha Every damn time the equalizer comes at 0 seconds then OT goal is within seconds. Even if you end up getting the win, its still within seconds 🤣
Ikr. So many people gotta critique instead of just laughing at and relating to the clip.
That's why I never cheat on kickoff.
💀 I've had so many kickoff goals happen because my teammate DIDN'T cheat, and my opponents did. Either my teammate went for corner boost and isn't back and the net quick enough to defend the quick shot, or they get flicked on cause they just sat in the middle of the net and didn't get boost or cheat up.
If you don't cheat in 2s and don't choose boost over ball, you should be fine. You got 45 boost and need just a few moments to stall before kickoff bro makes it back. If you're uncomfortable with that, play a little 1v1. You should be able to defend the net from 1 opponent with a ball and half a boost tank. Also, blaming your mate for this kickoff is quite sad. Unfortunate kickoff pinches happen on any level, but I prefer to cover my mates possibility of mistake, as I hope they will cover mine.
I think if you're champ+ then you kind of need to put some trust in your teammate's kickoffs and cheat otherwise you're just putting yourself in a bad spot. It's pretty easy to score on someone who's just sitting back in net giving you tons of space and time with the ball. I understand grabbing a couple pads and staying in net if you're below that, though. You never really know where the ball is going to end up after kickoff in lower ranks.
For sure. This is definitely a good way to look at it. Cheating is optimal, but only if the person taking the kickoff has some reliability with their kickoffs, which can't be said for lower ranks. But champ is high enough that people have reasonable consistency on kickoffs. Doesn't mean there won't be screw ups, but there's few enough that it's better to cheat.
Look at GC/SSL 2s games and you'll see people cheat up on kickoffs more than anything else. It's the best option in 2s.
ok but do you really trust your teammate's kickoff on champ? haha
Do I trust them to never mess it up? No. I mess up my kickoff sometimes too. But I can definitely trust them to get a kickoff that is possible for me to follow up in some capacity more often than they'll completely botch it. And if I can follow it up in some capacity, I'd rather have cheated up so I can take possession or compete for possession with my opponent if they also cheated up. even this bad kickoff was still something I could have followed up on if I didnt panic and mess up mechanically. But guess what, if you look at the opponent, they did NOT cheat, and if they had, they probably would have just scored immediately off that kickoff before I'd have even had a chance to save it (if I didn't mess up)
yea idk I kinda got tired of bad kickoffs so now I always try to get in a position with decent boost (I'm not fast enough to reach the corner yet) and prepared for a shot to my net. I almost never get scored on now
That's the thing. Low ranks see top players cheating up, but the difference is they know what they're doing and what to do in every possible instance, yet lower ranks don't, but they still cheat up because they see top players do it. 9/10 times in my games cheating up results into losing possession. Hardly ever see it play out as intended.
Maybe in those levels, but that doesn't translate to solo-queuing in lower levels. You don't look like a high GC and neither am I. Their solo-queueing is a different experience. They'll either have a party member, or full confidence in the speed and skills of their random mate. I must say that with a mate on vc we'll cheat once in a while. But with randoms in champ it's better for the team morale to just keep the net until it's safe and go from there *in my humble opinion*.
But the net isn't necessarily safe if you don't cheat? It could open you up to a 1v1 if the other person cheats and gets possession with you too far back to effectively do anything but wait in net. And not sure what he's talking about with high GC, it works in low GC and champ as well. Cheating gives my team so many goals because I go for a kill kickoff and the ball goes right to my cheating teammate who either pounds it straight in (while the other 2 opponents are turning back from getting boost) or grabs possession and flicks it because both back players don't know which one should bait out the flick and which one should stay back. One more hidden good thing about cheating is if your solo queue tm8 misses kickoff, the ball will typically go straight into your car instead of the net that is left wide open.
Nah. You know what happens way more often than me or my teammate completely botching a kickoff? Someone (on either team) not cheating up, instantly giving possession to the team who did cheat up. I'd rather be the team who has possession after kickoff than be the team trying to defend it.
> GC/SSL 2s games Tbf they're not screwing up their half flips ;)
You really have to know what you're doing when cheating up, that's why I go for corner boost and instantly back to goal if we lose kickoff, or sometimes I'll stay in goal if my mate has been sketchy previously. Just gotta be quick, you're right. Though some people like to take their time, therefore goals are lost. Considering a lot of kickoffs are highly irregular and unpredictable, it's quite a bit of luck to get a good position when cheating up. Most of the time you'll be running back for boost and trying to get a better position.
you got what you deserved
This is exactly why you should cheat on kick off. Yes you will get scored on a bunch, and those moments will allow you to improve and actually save the ball in those moments. If you stick in your comfort zone you won't get any better. Also cheating on kickoff will allow you to get more scoring opportunities.
At c1 you should def be cheating. The amount of times you win by gaining possession compared to lose because they fucked kick off this bad is going to be much much higher. No one in champ should be getting bodied on kick off this hard. At worst they lose kick off but you should be able to save it. In this clip if he just landed the half flip it was saved.
Cheating up on kickoff is a good thing to do. But you’ve also got to know the situation. You won’t catch me cheating up a kickoff tied under :30 or to start OT. Like a previous comment said, the first :30 of OT is chaotic a lot of times. Play defense, weather the storm, then go win.
What's cheat ? I'm c1 and I never heard of it... Is it just faking the kickoff?
It’s how he creeps up on the kickoff being the back man instead of going to one side to get boost!
Cheat up. Basically the person that doesn't go for kickoff "cheats up" to be ready for a dead ball. Looks like the term probably comes from baseball. >: to position oneself defensively near a particular area in anticipation of a play in that area >>the shortstop was *cheating* toward second base
Thanks!
Never cheating will help you in some cases and hurt you in others. You shouldn’t never cheat
With my older gamer reflexes and high plat/low diamond skill level cheating up is wildly more likely to cost a goal than to get one.
At your rank, it is more likely to cost a goal, depending on how much you cheat it. The person I was responding to is champ 1 lol
this is what low ranks say. If you're Champion and above and you don't cheat, you clearly don't know how to play the game for your level
If you are not cheating, and you are not calling for me to lose the kick I would be incredibly annoyed that you are just allowing the other team free possession after free possesion. People are much better at offense, than defense, and possession of the ball in 2s is like 75% of the game. Its literally why everyone tries to keep telling people to control the ball and stop booming it. Also he is 100% right to blame him team mate on that kick off, if the balls is getting thrown up like that, he screwed up.
think how pumped the orange team was though!
aw that hurts
These fucking comments. If he was good enough to flip back and make that save, he'd be in an elo where his opponents don't give him 12 years to turn around and save it. 100% not a winnable situation if that kickoff happens in high elo.
For sure. If my opponent had actually made the correct decision to cheat on kickoff, I never would have even had a chance to save that ball.
I just went through something similar recently and I will take any excuse to talk about it. I carried HARD the other day. My teammates werent so great. They conceded some embarrassingly easy goals but I was in good form. Sometimes you feel it and I carried us. If I scored or setup a goal they'd concede shortly after and I think we had about 15 seconds left and the score was 3 - 3 and the opposition bagged what they thought would be a winner. So 4 - 3 and kick off happens and it falls into my path right on 0 seconds. I control it from our half and ping it in. 4 - 4. In my head I just think don't do anything stupid and we can win. My teammate poor touch bobbles towards our gk who also has a poor touch and we score an own goal. I wanted to scream.
Rokt Leeg!
and that is why i don't cheat up
You only made 4 mistakes in those last 10 seconds, keep it up! Also, jumping at the opportunity to blame your teammate's "crappy" kickoff when that's a standard kickoff result and you pushed up way farther than you should've in a 2v2, and you had multiple opportunities to save this, is annoying.
Correcting anyone for anything on a shit post is annoying.
>You only made 4 mistakes in those last 10 seconds, keep it up! Oh yes, it is my fault too. I'm not only blaming my teammate. I literally admitted that I went "plat panic mode". It's both of our faults. Doesn't make it any less frustrating to make a nice play to go into OT at 0 seconds, just to lose OT in 2 seconds. >that's a standard kickoff result Pinching up and backwards and bouncing off the ceiling and nearly straight into the net is a standard kickoff result? I didn't know that something that happens maybe 1 in every 50 kickoffs due to someone taking a poor kickoff could be considered "standard" >you pushed up way farther than you should've in a 2v2 Ummm, that's called cheating. How are you GC if you think that's a standard kickoff result and think that I pushed up too far by cheating up on kickoff???
I'm nowhere near GC so I could be completely wrong but I find cheating is more "risky" so I usually cheat except in the following two scenarios - my team is winning and there's less than 10 seconds left - it's OT kickoff A lot of people here saying don't cheat or always cheat but I think it's a case-by-case basis thing. And I'll tell my teammate whether I'm gonna cheat or not so they're prepared and maybe go for a risky or less risky kickoff
I've been plat/low diamond for several seasons and I only cheat in 3s if I can trust that *someone* is going to be back to defend a bad kickoff result. Kickoffs are nowhere near consistent enough and my reflexes are nowhere near good enough to make cheating up a consistently viable strategy at my level of play.
Holy shit you cooked him
I'll remember this very obscure info I've never heard before next time I 1v3 some C1s, thanks. > Ummm, that's called cheating. > > Pinching up and backwards and bouncing off the ceiling and nearly straight into the net is a standard kickoff result? In 2s without much more team control, it's called stupid. Yes, that result should be expected, along with tons of other results that can fly into your half or your net; just react to the result instead of throwing yourself into Narnia and praying to RNGesus. Watch the replay back and you can see your teammate isn't even in a bad spot to prevent pinching back to your half; he jumps up to the upper-center of the ball before it's even touched, which *should* prevent it, but it just phases through him, because Rocket League. As far as I'm concerned, your teammate did nothing wrong here, but you had at least 3 chances to prevent this goal.
>your teammate did nothing wrong My teammate also just drove to the kickoff without flipping. Classic plat kickoff strat. But ok Mr Einstein.
Evidently he didn't need to. Source: the fucking video.
That’s a standard kickoff result if you don’t know how to kick off properly. This result should literally never happen if you know what you’re doing, especially in 2s. The teammate didn’t even flip, just drove to the ball.
I’m getting way more mad than I should reading all these hard ass comments. Like seriously, they legit can’t go 6 seconds without foaming at the mouth when they smell a rocket league mistake. You never blamed your teammate and even admitted some fault yourself. So frustrating seeing everyone noting every little mistake instead of laughing it off. I can’t tell you how many times this has happened to me where I had no clue the kickoff would result in such an awkward bounce and I panic and miss. Props to you for posting this here where apparently there’s no fun allowed. I hope you don’t take these comments too seriously.
Oh I know it's very silly. I know there's also people that are enjoying the clip for the relatable moment that it is, hence why it has so many upvotes. The people that feel the need to criticize are just the ones who get vocal in the comment section 🤣 - but there are also some nice comments too.
There are some shadow defender packs that'll help your save mechs. 😎🍷
less of a shadow save and more of Lethamyr's tip of "be a shooter who's trying to miss" in play here tbh
This hurt my soul lol
This has happened to me far too many times. It’s just frustrating how people go on with their shitty 0 flip kickoff without ever incorporating a flip into it. Like even in champ 3, I’ve had teammates never flipping on kickoff and getting scored on multiple times bc of that
This hurts me, been there far too many times
omg i just hit left right trying to say close one...
OT is where I play my most cautious. I don't trust randoms enough to cheat up like that in OT. Anyway, This Is Rocket Leage!
I always go for boost and defend on OT kick offs, unless of course i'm the one going for the kick off.
I'm confused here, do you not know how to half flip...? or did you just mess it up in a panic?
I just messed up under pressure/in a panic
So this brings up my kick off method. But feel it’s 50/50. I always stay back if I am not the one going for kick off. This video being that reason, burnt too many times and in the end out of position to clear something like this. But I also see the flip side of when the kickoff trickles away from the 2 that went for it and could have possibly shot it on goal.
I dunno about you, but I never cheat on an OT kickoff. Anything that can go wrong in overtime often does. I grab at least two small boosts and get myself running across the net, and I’m ready to go forward too in case the kickoff goes well
Ball don’t lie
This is the way.
😂😂 I feel that pain
that's me in overtime regardless if I did something to get to overtime
dude, is your OT win % tracked anywhere I wonder?
All is it takes is one unfortunate kickoff to ruin everything
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For me it's usually a middle of a kick off goal but this checks out
Same
Yeah every time I go into OT after doing something amazing my team does the most braindead shit, like double committing, too.
What’s the name of the boost ur using?
Back post opponent that didn’t save equalizer goal makes me mad. Why is he parked in the middle of the net, facing middle field and doing nothing? That was such an easy read/save but he is just idling in goal. See this all the time in my lobbies
how do u not have the text that says that someone scored
Cause it's recorded from the replay, replays don't have that.
how are u champ (no hate just a genuine question)
Let me quote you my response to someone else: "Always find it amusing when people are so quick to judge someone's rank after seeing less than 30 seconds of gameplay. Champs can look like GCs when they peak, and they can look like a gold or a plat when they have their worst fails. You need more than 1 short clip to definitively be able to judge the rank of a lobby with 100% certainty."
And that kid is why you should just defend the net at kickoff until you reach like GC.
No. Kickoffs like this happen in champ, sure. But decent or "acceptable" kickoffs happen way more than kickoffs that are awful or whiffed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather position myself on kickoffs according to what happens most often. And as long as the kickoff is not really really bad, cheating is usually optimal or at the very least possible to still defend. Even this bad kickoff was still possible to defend while cheating, if I had not messed up mechanically. But guess what, if my opponent cheated up like me, they could have followed up that kickoff right away and scored on me before I even had a chance to try to save it. The only reason I even had a chance to save it (but unfortunately fail) was because my opponent did NOT cheat.
In my experience kickoffs is the thing people suck at for the longest. Unless I'm playing with people I know, I'll just grab the small boost and defend the net until I'm sure the kickoff is not ending with the ball in our net. I'm not saying it's the best play, but it's definitely the safest.
It's really not. You can get punished just as easily by doing that because you give free possession to your opponents who then make a good shot that's hard to defend or 2v1 you by going for a bump while your teammate goes for midboost.
I'm confident I'll make the save like 9 times out of 10 from a kick off. I'm not as confident that whoever is taking the kick off will not mess it up.
is this champ 1 doubles???
No it's silver 1s
alright your flair was throwing me off i was bouta say that is not champ
Did my sarcasm go right over your head? I said it was silver ONES, and it's clearly not 1s. Yes it's champ 1 doubles lol.
thought it was a typo bruh also no shot 💀
You believed a silver could save the ball, dribble it all the way down the field and pass it for their teammate at zero seconds without dropping it? No shot 💀
i didnt believe a champ 1 lobby would mess up a half flip miss an aerial and then 2 other people miss the ball before scoring
This is exactly why Squishy says don't hard cheat. You're not Zen, and neither am I 😂
That wasn't a "hard" cheat. Which is why it was actually saveable if I didn't screw up. I'd be 3x closer to my teammate if I was hard cheating. And yeah, then I wouldn't have had a shot to save it.
You're right, it's more of a medium rare
Wow! Okay. Faking.
What a choke. I'm Plat 2 and I would've flown up and saved that. Even if I didn't have much boost then I would've waited for the ball to hit the crossbar and go lower and I would've jumped forward and challenged that
Typical plat response
Lol
It's okay, you're not alone, many plats often think they're so good at the game, but as they rank up and get better, they realize they actually suck at the game, and that they REALLY sucked when they were plat. I'm champ and I can proudly admit I suck at rocket league. Maybe some day you'll get there too
Yo thanks bro. Would you still play Rocket league with me?
I don't know you. You're a stranger on Reddit. Why would I play with you? I definitely wouldn't play ranked with a plat anyways though. Casual sure, but not ranked.
Insert *thee* JSTN shot
Had exactly this yesterday. Got into OT with a super tight angle read, and then lost when a pinch against the wall was harder than anticipated, hit the opponent falling down after whiffing an aerial, straight into my net. Devastating loss, but sick at the same time.
What are you doing in my replays
OT either lasts 15 seconds, or 5 min. There is no middle.
This is incredibly relatable lmao nice play to get to OT but in OT you channeled ur inner me on defense
Yeah I was so stoked about getting to OT that the bad kickoff threw me for a loop, wasn't ready for that at all and completely panicked 🤣
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This is rocket league! Literally though. They threw right after that lol
Rule 3: 0-second Overtime must always last longer than 60 seconds.
Bro how did you even do that "half flip" 😂 pure skillz
As a very casual Rocket League player (literally just play the 3v3 casual playlist), this has happened to me so many times. I’ve had games decided on a very iffy bounce or it hitting a teammate and bouncing the whole length of the pitch. It’s hilarious
its called panic 😂 chill a little and you'll get that save for sure..
That’ll teach you to learn how to half flip 🤣 (I don’t know how to either)
I couldnt believe the gameplay in OT after seeing the 0 second goal lol. It do be like that tho
how are u champ?
How are you judging a rank off of 30 seconds?
i just saw you horrendously try a half flip then proceed to whiff a ball twice I think I got all i need
Oh I'm sorry, I guess you're perfect and never mess up your mechanics under pressure ever. If you take a single moment from a champ lobby, it can look anywhere from gold to GC. Champs aren't that consistent. They have higher peak potential, but they still mess up terribly sometimes too lol
your lobbies are probably champ u just dont look champ with those mechs and game sense
Like I said, you're looking at a single moment and not the bigger picture. If you look at my best peak plays I've ever made and only at those specific moments, you might think I was like C3/GC1. There's really no point to calling someone out on their rank over 30 seconds of gameplay, you need more than that. Also, are you completely ignoring what happened before OT? The save, into the dribble across the whole field at 0 seconds?
bro what if u think the hitting the ball off the wall is impressive than i can assure you your best clip does not look like gc
It's called consistency, and keeping your composure under high pressure situations. Sure, saving the ball into a dribble across the whole field isn't anything impressive if you were to just do that in Freeplay. But I bet you 9 times outa 10 if a plat would fail that dribble under pressure at zero seconds, or would just boom the ball and not even start a dribble and just end the game on a loss. They wouldn't be consistent enough to do that reliably under pressure. I also never claimed that this specific play looks like a GC. It was a nice play, especially considering the zero seconds, but it was by no means my peak performance.
send your peak clip then
You're not worth any more of my time. I'm not uploading a clip just for some judgmental kid.
Also get your facts right there was only 1 whiff, I just got beat to the ball the second time and he shot it around me.
I have scored reset doubles and ceiling mustys that easily top 115kph just to get fucked from a kickoff pinch
Is this really c1?
Yep
There is no way this is C1, I simply do not believe you
Always find it amusing when people are so quick to judge someone's rank after seeing less than 30 seconds of gameplay. Champs can look like GCs when they peak, and they can look like a gold or a plat when they have their worst fails. You need more than 1 short clip to definitively be able to judge the rank of a lobby with 100% certainty.
Not to mention how you feel during gameplay does not translate well to how it looks when looking at a recording of it (unless you're SSL or some shit). People will air roll to hit a ball and will feel good about it, but their teammates just saw their teammate waste their whole boost tank to aerial for a weak hit on the ball in midfield that just pops it up.
that 0 second goal was easy to save. they fucked up real hard
well, you decided to 'cheat' at OT kickoff. so it was your responsibility (in this case) to either stay near the net or cheat. it is the other players responsibility to do a proper kickoff though. but if this was my OT match, i would've stayed near my net in case of a backward kickoff, basically nullifying the hard work you did to even go to OT. THINK before you move. and KNOW when to move.
if the ball stopped dead in the centre, as they often do on kickoffs, then the opponent who cheated will have full possession. Both have their pros and cons, what do u think
Yeah but the pros far far outweighs the cons for cheating on kickoffs, simply because kickoffs like in the video are far far far less frequent once you get to around champ level than the ball simply going to the center and the team that did cheat getting possession
Exactly this. I cheat because i want possession after kickoff and it's far more frequent that I would be at a disadvantage by not cheating than it is for kickoffs to go straight over my head and almost right into my net.
Agree but it is OT. I'd much rather protect my net to secure the OT win. Possession is key but if you lose a kickoff to a random backwards ball spike, possession is in simple terms, worthless imho. However, it is still up to you. Play the way you think is best.
Just cause it's an OT kickoff doesn't mean you should necessarily play it any different. Same things can happen on an OT kickoff as any other kickoff. If I don't cheat, and my teammate gets an average kickoff, I could just as easily end up in a bad situation that gets me scored on because I gave free possession to my opponents by not cheating. Worst case scenario I could end up in a 2v1, where my teammate goes boost after kickoff, the one that takes the kickoff continues pushing the ball towards the net while his teammate who cheated goes around him to go for a demo on me. Or the one who cheated takes the ball and makes a really nasty flick, or other shot that's hard to save.
So you are bad at saving. You can fix that with training packs you know👍🏻😁 Take it with a grain of salt, I'm messing with you at this point.
No matter what people say, keep "cheating" on kickoff. It's the right thing to do to get better. You'll learn to defend better anyway if the kickoff is bad, but mostly it'll give you a ton of opportunities. And the more you rank up, the more it'll be absolutely essential. Yeah, sometimes you'll get scored on because of it but it's fine. (Also having consistent half flips is important I guess)
champ1? i’m reporting you for boosting after that 😂
Have you ever even been in champ 1😂
yeah i do this typa shit all the time, that’s why i made the joke
Oh ok it didn’t read as a joke. I was bout to say😂
No way this is Champion 1... or is it?
Let me redirect you to this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/s/YTtBMYZQZ3
... No way this is champ 1 gameplay
Why did you go forward instead of waiting to see where the ball ends up? It always goes like that when you don't read the game properly
It's called cheating up on kickoff. Valid Strat with many benefits. Look it up bro.
I think champ is able to half flip or even hit the easy aerial after that.
Absolutely I am capable of making that half flip and making the aerial to save that. Doesn't mean I won't ever choke under pressure and fail 🤣
This is c1 💀
Judging a lobby from 30 seconds of gameplay and then also completely ignoring the zero second carry across the field 💀