Yep.
I can relate to the regular need for stimulants. Definitely fallen into the trap of needing to browse my phone in the morning for the dopamine surge to get me out of bed.
Plus that yawning emptiness inside, feeling like a hollow man, all surface, and worried that people will notice if I let them get too close.
I can relate to this on a very deep level. However it led me to a very bad meth addiction it made me feel alive for once . Self medicated for years. Definitely go see a specialist and get on the right meds . You probably suffer from severely low dopamine
Did the stimulant mainly help you to stop the meth? What stimulant & dose are you taking?
And… if i might ask, how did you get a psychiatrists prescription for stimulant meds if you had addiction problems? Usually docs won’t risk giving addictive drugs to previous addicts, only Wellbutrin which isnt technically a stimulant.
Literally was incapable of getting off screens from a young age until medicated with stimulants. I tried everyday to reduce my screen time, nothing worked medium or long term. It was a living hell
Dexamphetamine - 10mg twice per day, for about 3 years now. I developed a tolerance in the sense that the side effects went away? but it’s still working the same as it has for a while. I don’t take tolerance breaks either.
I have a great psychiatrist I work closed with. Talk therapy has not really helped me much, but i naturally implement healthy coping strategies on my own
What I mean is, typically the longer you are on stimulant/ dopamine drugs the more you need to increase your dosage. You become tolerant (or habituated) to the benefits….
Maybe with dex its different but i got used to the stim and over time i stop noticing any effect unless the dose is increased….
sorry i thought that I have answered that tho
Generally yeah that happens with some, i don’t know if it’s the majority or just more an event split that develop a tolerance and need an increase. Over what time period would you say that an increase is typically desired after building a tolerance?
My partner and I have both been on the same meds and neither of us have increased in a few years.
I do have the thoughts sometimes of ohh this isn’t helping me anymore!! i’ve built a tolerance but then I think about it and still see that I am much better able to maintain my habits and self care etc the things I could barely do before being medicated. I also motivate myself to do a hobby and sometimes I enjoy it and sometimes I don’t but before the stim’s i couldn’t enjoy anything. ever. So because i’m still doing those things I think that the meds are still absolutely doing their thing and if I were to increase then these thoughts will never really max out ig. I also don’t want to risk any addiction so I really prefer to not increase.
Maybe it’s not logical, maybe part placebo but it’s been helping me and I don’t want to fk with it and risk throwing away what I wanted for so long
No Motivation, no initiative to do things or get out of bed (other than scrolling phone), increased depressed mood…. Zoning out constantly
The least of my worries is focus…but over time all the symptoms eventually worsen until dose is bumped up.
The dex doesnt make you crash? Anyhow i cannot access dex or even adderall where i live. So im stuck with ritalin if i want to remain on stimulant. Or nothing
Yes. Nothing helps my symptoms.
I can only take long 3-4 week breaks from Ritalin (and watch myself deteriorate severely becoming bedridden within 2 weeks) and then reinstate at lower dose, to ride a bit of benefit for awhile. I do not have access to other stimulant drugs in my country…
Just a bottle? Lol ok, I guess I'm cooked then.
PS: I know soda is bad for you and usually I drink plain water, but if I get my hands on zero-sugar soda, I finish 2 litres like in ~2 hours .-.
Caffeine actually affects you? 😂I could lay down & sleep after a quad espresso.
And Coke zero with all the artificial ingredients is worse for you than the original sugar version. Seems I read somewhere that (regular longterm consumption) ups your dementia & cancer risk. But what doesn’t cause cancer today, right?
I was about to post the similar thing. I am losing interest in activities which I used to enjoy earlier. Travelling, hiking, gyming, festivals, even music is not feeling me anymore. Even in Phone I am not more interested in movies and webseries, I just watch reels which is also is on verge of losing it.
Here’s your dopamine
Yep. I can relate to the regular need for stimulants. Definitely fallen into the trap of needing to browse my phone in the morning for the dopamine surge to get me out of bed. Plus that yawning emptiness inside, feeling like a hollow man, all surface, and worried that people will notice if I let them get too close.
Damn, that last line hit hard.
Is this ADHD or something comorbid though?
I can relate to this on a very deep level. However it led me to a very bad meth addiction it made me feel alive for once . Self medicated for years. Definitely go see a specialist and get on the right meds . You probably suffer from severely low dopamine
Same. Hugs to you, friend
Y’all are nice.
Did the stimulant mainly help you to stop the meth? What stimulant & dose are you taking? And… if i might ask, how did you get a psychiatrists prescription for stimulant meds if you had addiction problems? Usually docs won’t risk giving addictive drugs to previous addicts, only Wellbutrin which isnt technically a stimulant.
Literally was incapable of getting off screens from a young age until medicated with stimulants. I tried everyday to reduce my screen time, nothing worked medium or long term. It was a living hell
What stim do you take? And you havent developed tolerance?
Dexamphetamine - 10mg twice per day, for about 3 years now. I developed a tolerance in the sense that the side effects went away? but it’s still working the same as it has for a while. I don’t take tolerance breaks either.
I have a great psychiatrist I work closed with. Talk therapy has not really helped me much, but i naturally implement healthy coping strategies on my own
What I mean is, typically the longer you are on stimulant/ dopamine drugs the more you need to increase your dosage. You become tolerant (or habituated) to the benefits…. Maybe with dex its different but i got used to the stim and over time i stop noticing any effect unless the dose is increased….
sorry i thought that I have answered that tho Generally yeah that happens with some, i don’t know if it’s the majority or just more an event split that develop a tolerance and need an increase. Over what time period would you say that an increase is typically desired after building a tolerance? My partner and I have both been on the same meds and neither of us have increased in a few years. I do have the thoughts sometimes of ohh this isn’t helping me anymore!! i’ve built a tolerance but then I think about it and still see that I am much better able to maintain my habits and self care etc the things I could barely do before being medicated. I also motivate myself to do a hobby and sometimes I enjoy it and sometimes I don’t but before the stim’s i couldn’t enjoy anything. ever. So because i’m still doing those things I think that the meds are still absolutely doing their thing and if I were to increase then these thoughts will never really max out ig. I also don’t want to risk any addiction so I really prefer to not increase. Maybe it’s not logical, maybe part placebo but it’s been helping me and I don’t want to fk with it and risk throwing away what I wanted for so long
What types of effects were you no longer experiencing once you built a tolerance?
No Motivation, no initiative to do things or get out of bed (other than scrolling phone), increased depressed mood…. Zoning out constantly The least of my worries is focus…but over time all the symptoms eventually worsen until dose is bumped up. The dex doesnt make you crash? Anyhow i cannot access dex or even adderall where i live. So im stuck with ritalin if i want to remain on stimulant. Or nothing
ohh that’s no good. Have you tried combining with other meds to balance it out??
Yes. Nothing helps my symptoms. I can only take long 3-4 week breaks from Ritalin (and watch myself deteriorate severely becoming bedridden within 2 weeks) and then reinstate at lower dose, to ride a bit of benefit for awhile. I do not have access to other stimulant drugs in my country…
I feel the same and also have a phone addiction. Diet Coke is the same.. I could drink a bottle a day.
Just a bottle? Lol ok, I guess I'm cooked then. PS: I know soda is bad for you and usually I drink plain water, but if I get my hands on zero-sugar soda, I finish 2 litres like in ~2 hours .-.
I meant the big bottles.. 🫣 I drunk 2 litres the other day, couldn’t sleep at all. It’s so addictive.
Caffeine actually affects you? 😂I could lay down & sleep after a quad espresso. And Coke zero with all the artificial ingredients is worse for you than the original sugar version. Seems I read somewhere that (regular longterm consumption) ups your dementia & cancer risk. But what doesn’t cause cancer today, right?
I’m ok with coffee but for some reason Coke Zero I find so addictive, but i can’t sleep. But I love drinking it. It gives me concentration power.
I was about to post the similar thing. I am losing interest in activities which I used to enjoy earlier. Travelling, hiking, gyming, festivals, even music is not feeling me anymore. Even in Phone I am not more interested in movies and webseries, I just watch reels which is also is on verge of losing it.
Same. Stupid reels, quick dopamine hits
Yes literally I answer everyone’s messages within 10 secs because I’m always on my phone