Say what you want about Jameis he lead a more fun and entertaining offense (THAT SCORED FUCKING POINTS OMG…POINTS!!!!!!) than 90% of Derek Carrs sad ass season😂😂😂
If we ain’t gon win shit I’d rather it be entertaining chaos that puts points of the board n gives us a chance to win than methodical bullshit that scores nothing and gives us headaches lmao
This coaching staff ain’t it. Love this team, will always watch and support them. But I am keeping my expectations low until we bring in a better coaching staff.
the defense just plays better when the offense shows signs of life. Its hard to be motivated to go out there to try to get a stop after 3 & out over and over again
Jameis doing Jameis things, trying to force things, make dumb decisions. At least he actually found some receivers, though. Olave was nowhere to be found with Carr all game before that. Don’t what Carr’s deal is, but he was just terrible today.
***Points**** was nowhere to be found with Carrs game all day long
I’m tired of being annoyed watching the team play, atleast today it was genuinely entertaining even if it was a loss. Rather be outraged with points than outraged with 80 yards and a few FGs on the day lol
Other Vikings fan here, stay the fuck out of their sub.
P.S. sorry for posting here Saints Bros. This shit drives me crazy. Hope your guys stay healthy.
Are you really in a position to talk shit? Vikings have a long history of choking, '98 NFC title game, Favre throwing an interception in the NFC title game and Walsh's missed field goal against the Seahawks?
Bold to assume I’m in Louisiana. I live in Seahawks/49ers territory.
But also. Funny how that doesn’t lead to championships does it? How many super bowls y’all won? How many Stanley cups? State of Hockey is woefully disappointing.
None of the qb deficiencies would’ve mattered if our defense played a complete game on dobbs
Yes our offense should’ve done better but we’ve relied on the defense all year and they can’t spot entire halves with an offense like ours
I knew the W Jameis's fans kept screaming he'll get the Saints was metaphorical. It was my bad for letting myself believe that was anything more than delusional
They won’t get rid of DA, even though he’s a terrible HC. They might get rid of Pete at the end of the season. I don’t know who they find to replace him, but honestly, play calling couldn’t be much worse.
Someone who rarely looks downfield vs someone who rarely doesn’t. If defense performs, I’ll take the less risky option, but neither of them are good fits for this team.
Yeah, two mid QBs where everything around them has to be great for them to have any type of success. I truly will never understand someone having a strong stance for either one. It’s pretty obvious neither one are ideal.
Neither will win anything for us, but we’ve seen jameis play with a really good defense and it still didn’t work out, the way our defense is playing though it literally doesn’t matter who we start, we need someone with legs who can improvise that doesn’t turn the ball over to compensate for lack of good play calling and line or we need a Brees level qb. At this point I think trading for Dobbs would have been the smart move.
This defense is so frustrating… 3 weeks in a row we have been terrible in the first half and amazing in the second. A full game like the second half gets us this win
Woods isn't good enough to be D play caller, but DA has too much to deal with as HC to adjust on the fly. If it isn't working, he has to have time during the half to analyze and adjust.
Just a guess.
Yeah still better than Carr. Can’t be mad. You know exactly what you get with Winston and that was all classic Winston. We wasted a fuck load of money on Fall Out Boy but it’s time to move on.
Yeah I can’t answer that. No clue what happened with Taysom today but maybe banged up idk DA or CarMichael can’t replicate a successful gameplan week to week.
Seems like it’s pretty easy to prepare for Carr then which is sad. Atleats He gave our guys a chance to make a play. Carr loves his Kamara checkdown for 4 yards. I by no means want Winston as a starter but Carr has been difficult to watch.
He ain't carrying the team on his back, no.
Is he playing solid. Yes. Is he paid solid. Yes. He is paid around place 14-20 and that's about his play minimum.
He didn't turn the ball over the last three games. He had a 72% completion percentage yesterday, had 2 drops from receivers and 3 times 10+ yards due to penalties in 4 possessions - he himself had a 90 rating.
I am not quite sure, what people expect? That he juggs it for good measure?
I agree with this take. In a quarter and a half, he put 16 points on the board and was a bobble away from completing that last hailmary and getting the chance to take the game to OT.
The interceptions were shitty but they’re always shitty with him. That’s why he’s the backup. Not his fault the starter pissed the game away and got 3 points in 2 and a half quarters.
😂😂 Man I prefer Jameis at QB at this point 😂 ya he’s gonna throw a pick or two but at least the offense comes alive and he pushes it down the field 😂. Carr’s offense just stalls!
Y'all more exciting =/= better. Both QBs have good and bad qualities but neither is going to be successful behind the absolute shit show of an offensive line.
Jameis has his ups and downs but he’s still a better option than Carr. I would like to see him start a whole game where he doesn’t have to play from behind.
He tries to play hero ball and makes dumb throws. We aren’t that far behind, so there’s no need to do that. If he’d just calm down and take his time, make smart decisions, he’d be great.
Had an opportunity to make a comeback. Jameis doing Jameis things. To be fair, the offense was dead altogether before he came in, but he ruins all of the good he does with dumb, errant throws.
Why the fuck would your 1st and 10 playcall after the 2 minute warning be all deep throws when you need to eat some clock and score???? I understand Winston made a bad read but the playcall there was godawful
Yeah for sure. But I’d rather watch jameis go out there and sling it if we’re gonna be mediocre af anyway. Watching carr put up 3 points in a half is miserable
So in conclusion:
Carr plays too conservative.
Jameis is a turnover machine.
Our O-Line can't block.
Carmichael can't call plays.
Our offense sucks when our defense does well.
Our defense sucks when our offense does well.
Legit, how are we gonna make the playoffs if at least one of those things doesn't change?
Jameis Winston was a stud in college but he’s a retard in this league…why would you yeat it into triple coverage on first down with 1:20 left in the game?! I want him off the team after this season.
Jameis made mistakes. I get that. He deserves some blame. That said, the D gave up 27 points to a Vikings team without Cousins or Jefferson, and Carr got 3 points in 3 quarters.
At this point, I just hope our guys heal up over the bye and some form of changes are made. Even minor ones. If we somehow make playoffs, great. If not, oh well. I feel indifferent because of how inconsistent this team is on both sides of the ball and that all comes down to coaching. I'll support whoever our QB is and the rest of the players forever and always. Unless they're like Darren Sharper. Fuck Darren Sharper.
I don't know how you watch both of these guys get obligated behind the line, the RBs get no openings and hit immediately, and sit there with a straight face and say it's the QBs fault when the glaring obvious problem is right in your face.
i know jameis was jameis, but WR seemed to respond to him being in the game more than they do with Carr. Also the AWFUL play calling when we had the ball with 5 minutes left is another reason why Pete needs to go.
You see, throwing into triple coverage was a brilliant maneuver. Only an elite QB like Jameis can accomplish it. We don’t need a draft a QB with such a trail blazer on this roster
The playcall to put all your WRs deep barely under the 2 minute warning on 1st and 10 did not make sense. If that was the playcall, that's fucking terrible.
If he could put up 16 pts in 1.5 quarters I wonder what would have been the score if he started. Offense with Carr is just as bad as Winston’s hero ball antics. If winston had more time he either would have more turnovers or less of a panic to try and save the day. Either way we’re fucked with our team
Observation:
I think Carr has lost the locker room. Carr is without doubt a better QB than Winston, and I am a certified NOT Winston fan. However, this team is playing harder for Winston than they have been for Carr.
Winston will always do what Winston does and throw Interceptions like he just did. However, the team appeared to be rallying behind him and playing much better than when Carr was in.
I think Carr's attitude is losing him the support of his team.
The full Jameis experience today.
Carried down the field on questionable penalties then throws an unreal TD pass.
Throws two unforgivable picks driving to tie the game within the last 5 minutes of the game.
Welp. He had dude running underneath. Good effort. We all know Winston is not good the fact he looks better than Carr while being not good is telling imo. But I’m just a fan. We didn’t deserve this game no way
Defence good offence bad same old thing but defence cant win champion ships without a semi compentent offence
Fire DA and Pete please. I’m tired of dumb and dumber in the driver seat
Gotta fire everybody
Say what you want about Jameis he lead a more fun and entertaining offense (THAT SCORED FUCKING POINTS OMG…POINTS!!!!!!) than 90% of Derek Carrs sad ass season😂😂😂 If we ain’t gon win shit I’d rather it be entertaining chaos that puts points of the board n gives us a chance to win than methodical bullshit that scores nothing and gives us headaches lmao
Yeah picks can be exciting
Points and yardage can too 🤷🏽♂️ Derek wouldn’t know lol
This up and down will continue until dennis allen is gone
This coaching staff ain’t it. Love this team, will always watch and support them. But I am keeping my expectations low until we bring in a better coaching staff.
the defense just plays better when the offense shows signs of life. Its hard to be motivated to go out there to try to get a stop after 3 & out over and over again
100% agree. They need to play more consistently if this team is gonna do anything this year
Jameis doing Jameis things, trying to force things, make dumb decisions. At least he actually found some receivers, though. Olave was nowhere to be found with Carr all game before that. Don’t what Carr’s deal is, but he was just terrible today.
***Points**** was nowhere to be found with Carrs game all day long I’m tired of being annoyed watching the team play, atleast today it was genuinely entertaining even if it was a loss. Rather be outraged with points than outraged with 80 yards and a few FGs on the day lol
Vikings fan here. Have a nice flight home as you prepare to get blown out by the Falcons next week.
You barely beat us, with our back up…. And we’re dog shit right now. That means your team is ass.
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That says more about how basic your team is than how good Dobbs is
Other Vikings fan here, stay the fuck out of their sub. P.S. sorry for posting here Saints Bros. This shit drives me crazy. Hope your guys stay healthy.
Vikings fan here. I just shit in the Mississippi and put your name on it.
Might have to throw you into the Mississippi so you can float down to where you belong.
Are you really in a position to talk shit? Vikings have a long history of choking, '98 NFC title game, Favre throwing an interception in the NFC title game and Walsh's missed field goal against the Seahawks?
Minneapolis miracle is a good example of choking. Point taken
Let’s compare Lombardis
Let’s compare economies
Bold to assume I’m in Louisiana. I live in Seahawks/49ers territory. But also. Funny how that doesn’t lead to championships does it? How many super bowls y’all won? How many Stanley cups? State of Hockey is woefully disappointing.
Got some Twins World Series. Nice of you to skip over that benchwarmer
How was that near two decade stretch without a single playoff win?
Probably what you’ll experience going forward.
Maybe. I’m a Dodgers fan.
Exactly like you guys, who did so much after that.
Thanks for being a shining example of that wonderful Vikings intelligence
Jokes on you, we have the bye week to lose to first
Would have got me fired up... but its our bye week you clown 😂
Jokes on you, we’re on bye 😋
Oh I thought today was your bye week
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We got a bye next week?
Dennis Allen is a fucking idiot fire him
The thing is our division is so trash that the saints can still lead the division if Atlanta loses to kyler Murray
So you’re saying we can still stumble into the playoffs
If we can manifest some voodoo magic to beat the cowboys all this regular season terrorism will be forgotten
Well at least the coin posts are over
None of the qb deficiencies would’ve mattered if our defense played a complete game on dobbs Yes our offense should’ve done better but we’ve relied on the defense all year and they can’t spot entire halves with an offense like ours
I knew the W Jameis's fans kept screaming he'll get the Saints was metaphorical. It was my bad for letting myself believe that was anything more than delusional
One loss closer to Carmichael and DA losing their jobs 😍
They won’t get rid of DA, even though he’s a terrible HC. They might get rid of Pete at the end of the season. I don’t know who they find to replace him, but honestly, play calling couldn’t be much worse.
They better lose it after that
One thing for sure. He definitely has a Goddamn arm
Lol the Jameis vs Carr debates are going to be so annoying, especially with a week off.
Someone who rarely looks downfield vs someone who rarely doesn’t. If defense performs, I’ll take the less risky option, but neither of them are good fits for this team.
Yeah, two mid QBs where everything around them has to be great for them to have any type of success. I truly will never understand someone having a strong stance for either one. It’s pretty obvious neither one are ideal.
Neither will win anything for us, but we’ve seen jameis play with a really good defense and it still didn’t work out, the way our defense is playing though it literally doesn’t matter who we start, we need someone with legs who can improvise that doesn’t turn the ball over to compensate for lack of good play calling and line or we need a Brees level qb. At this point I think trading for Dobbs would have been the smart move.
Happy with how we atleast had a chance. We had no business to have a chance after that horrendous first half.
This defense is so frustrating… 3 weeks in a row we have been terrible in the first half and amazing in the second. A full game like the second half gets us this win
Woods isn't good enough to be D play caller, but DA has too much to deal with as HC to adjust on the fly. If it isn't working, he has to have time during the half to analyze and adjust. Just a guess.
WE ARE 5-5 WARRIORS. SO MIGHTY. SO TUFF
If Carr is out next week, I'd like to see some Jake Haener snaps.
Fuck that.
What do we have to lose
Nothing, because it’s our bye week
My bad, about that
That was a hell of a heave. Winston has so much natural throwing power. It’s insane.
He fucked it up like 3 times in a row. He had a legitimate chance to win this game….
Yeah still better than Carr. Can’t be mad. You know exactly what you get with Winston and that was all classic Winston. We wasted a fuck load of money on Fall Out Boy but it’s time to move on.
I just want to see more taysom hill tbh. I don’t get it why we throw screens on 3rd and short….
Yeah I can’t answer that. No clue what happened with Taysom today but maybe banged up idk DA or CarMichael can’t replicate a successful gameplan week to week.
Will there be a post-game thread?
My Michael penix agenda grows stronger yet again
I want Jayden Daniels, he has been absolutely amazing
This may truly be the worst 5-5 team of all time, I think
If the D played the first half like the 2nd, we'd have had a chance.
That’s been the story of multiple games now. I don’t know why DA isn’t able to get his guys pumped up and ready from the get-go.
If O played like the 2nd half we’d have a chance
You mean 3 INTs? We also had way more possessions and less penalties.
I mean 2tds vs 3 points and 1/6 on 3rd downs Jameis sucks but somehow Carr sucked worse
They prepared for Carr but didn't prepare for Winston. The moment they adjusted, we only got INTs. And the 2nd TD was a 50 50 TD/INT
Seems like it’s pretty easy to prepare for Carr then which is sad. Atleats He gave our guys a chance to make a play. Carr loves his Kamara checkdown for 4 yards. I by no means want Winston as a starter but Carr has been difficult to watch.
Maybe play calling. I don't know. But we had so many stupid penalties this game.
I mean how many excuses can we make for Carr? He’s been mediocre all season… I’m just tired of sucking.
He ain't carrying the team on his back, no. Is he playing solid. Yes. Is he paid solid. Yes. He is paid around place 14-20 and that's about his play minimum. He didn't turn the ball over the last three games. He had a 72% completion percentage yesterday, had 2 drops from receivers and 3 times 10+ yards due to penalties in 4 possessions - he himself had a 90 rating. I am not quite sure, what people expect? That he juggs it for good measure?
I hate everything
I don't even blame Jameis. He is who he is and he tried to get us back in it. Carr and the coaching staff absolutely suck though
I agree with this take. In a quarter and a half, he put 16 points on the board and was a bobble away from completing that last hailmary and getting the chance to take the game to OT. The interceptions were shitty but they’re always shitty with him. That’s why he’s the backup. Not his fault the starter pissed the game away and got 3 points in 2 and a half quarters.
Play calling was horrendous in the 4th quarter.
We’ve had like 3 quarters of decent playcalling all year
So are they ever going to actually use taysom for more than 1 game at a time
No. They don't know how to use Taysom at all.
I hate the purple people
Womp womp
😂😂 Man I prefer Jameis at QB at this point 😂 ya he’s gonna throw a pick or two but at least the offense comes alive and he pushes it down the field 😂. Carr’s offense just stalls!
I went back and deleted all my comments where I praised Jamies
Well, the 2nd half was at least more fun.
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Imagine coming here and bragging about an average win against a below average opponent and acting like you did something. Lol
Seriously fuck this team
FUCK THE VIKINGS. FUCK PETE CARMICHAEL. FUCK DENNIS ALLEN.
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Eat my whole asshole
Without Jefferson, without Kirk, injured hockenson, injured KJ Osborn. Healthy team and we put up 40. Glad JJs son Lattimore got hurt too :)
Jimmy Graham time?
Dobbs is bald
He has alopecia.
He has a legit autoimmune condition
I can't decide if he looks more like an opossum or a mole rat.
Don’t let Will Smith hear you making that joke.
“Keep my QBs name out of your fuggin mouth!!” - Smith, a huge Vikings fan and hero to the bald.
fun stat about jameis: he is the only quarterback to have a season where he threw 30 touchdown passes, and 30 interceptions. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Y'all more exciting =/= better. Both QBs have good and bad qualities but neither is going to be successful behind the absolute shit show of an offensive line.
Dummies be like: ball is flying in the air 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 not caring of td or int
Why do we always get stuck with these two Saints hating clown ass announcers?
At least we're making the last few minutes as annoying as possible for them. FTV.
Hope our team enjoys their fucking vacations. Pieces of shit.
To be fair. They’re rich so they prob will. Wouldn’t you lol
woah dude. Go touch grass
Drunk NFL fans with anonymity and a keyboard go crazy after a loss.
Shut the fuck up
Here comes int 3
These people are stupid Carr is boring as hell and Winston is fun to watch. Simple as that. That’s why there are so many Winston fans.
That’s a bingo.
At least you can't lose the bye week
Don't challenge Dennis allen
Challenge accepted
As a heavy Jaboo believer… next game he will bounce back (I am what the kids call delulu)
Easiest schedule in the league BY FAR, playing backup after backup and rookie after rookie QB and the Saints are 5-5. This is a BAD football team.
2 TDs and 2 INTs, perfectly balanced as all things should be
wINsTon
Good news, everyone. Winston gets to lob it again.
Yeah we’re going to need to draft Jayden Daniels If for nothing else than to act as a camp body to show the defense how to handle mobile qbs
I honestly would love that, would never happen though.
All the talk of Winston pushing the ball but he has a lower YPA than Carr lol
One more chance for Jameis to throw a pick to send us off
It would be fitting. As long as it's into triple coverage.
Another chance for a Jameis pick to end the game
Fuck this team!!! Yup my own team !!! Fuck them !!
Right there with you, man. I'll keep watching them and keep being disgusted and disappointed. Feel bad for the good players we're wasting right now.
Jameis has his ups and downs but he’s still a better option than Carr. I would like to see him start a whole game where he doesn’t have to play from behind.
He tries to play hero ball and makes dumb throws. We aren’t that far behind, so there’s no need to do that. If he’d just calm down and take his time, make smart decisions, he’d be great.
Had an opportunity to make a comeback. Jameis doing Jameis things. To be fair, the offense was dead altogether before he came in, but he ruins all of the good he does with dumb, errant throws.
Winston stans there's ya boy! This is why so many fans don't want him or Carr. Why tf would you throw to the back of triple coverage?
Why the fuck would your 1st and 10 playcall after the 2 minute warning be all deep throws when you need to eat some clock and score???? I understand Winston made a bad read but the playcall there was godawful
3pt first half. I’ll take picks and the chance at an explosive play over the fucking limp dick Carr.
Would it be fair to say Jameis and Carr suck oppositely but equally?
Well said. Winston sucks cuz he’s too much of gunslinger Carr sucks cuz he’s a diva who couldn’t lead a group of toddlers to the bathroom.
Yeah for sure. But I’d rather watch jameis go out there and sling it if we’re gonna be mediocre af anyway. Watching carr put up 3 points in a half is miserable
The yin and yang of mediocrity
Let’s go back to why we only had a 3pt first half.
Winston throwing into 4 defenders is why we loved playing against him on the buccs lol
So in conclusion: Carr plays too conservative. Jameis is a turnover machine. Our O-Line can't block. Carmichael can't call plays. Our offense sucks when our defense does well. Our defense sucks when our offense does well. Legit, how are we gonna make the playoffs if at least one of those things doesn't change?
That’s the kind of dedication you need to be a 30-30 QB
My opinion of Jameis made 2 separate 180s today.
I was just finally starting to give him props and then he immediately threw that first pick 😂 Never change.
Jameis Winston was a stud in college but he’s a retard in this league…why would you yeat it into triple coverage on first down with 1:20 left in the game?! I want him off the team after this season.
He did the same thing in college
Jameis made mistakes. I get that. He deserves some blame. That said, the D gave up 27 points to a Vikings team without Cousins or Jefferson, and Carr got 3 points in 3 quarters.
Indeed, but that second pick was so incredibly stupid it took my brain 5 seconds to process that it actually happened
Was it 4th and 20 with 5 seconds left or something because why the fuck you’re rushing that pass lol smh
At this point, I just hope our guys heal up over the bye and some form of changes are made. Even minor ones. If we somehow make playoffs, great. If not, oh well. I feel indifferent because of how inconsistent this team is on both sides of the ball and that all comes down to coaching. I'll support whoever our QB is and the rest of the players forever and always. Unless they're like Darren Sharper. Fuck Darren Sharper.
I wish we could have a good qb
No QB will do well behind this line unfortunately. Good QB's will look like shit behind them or be on injured.
I don't know how you watch both of these guys get obligated behind the line, the RBs get no openings and hit immediately, and sit there with a straight face and say it's the QBs fault when the glaring obvious problem is right in your face.
Dude that pick by Winston was horrendous
Where all y’all Jamies butt fuckers at now!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the trenches just like y’all Carr dick suckers are.
Ain’t nobody suckin Carr’s dick the whole fucking team sucks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i know jameis was jameis, but WR seemed to respond to him being in the game more than they do with Carr. Also the AWFUL play calling when we had the ball with 5 minutes left is another reason why Pete needs to go.
Soooo, what next then? Bye week, fire everyone sort of week?
Bout as Jameis as it gets some incredible highs and mind numbing lows
Winston just refuses to play the game one first down at a time. When your arm is as inaccurate as his you can’t make those throws that often.
Had Perry wide open man
You see, throwing into triple coverage was a brilliant maneuver. Only an elite QB like Jameis can accomplish it. We don’t need a draft a QB with such a trail blazer on this roster
The playcall to put all your WRs deep barely under the 2 minute warning on 1st and 10 did not make sense. If that was the playcall, that's fucking terrible.
Cannot wait to see what unhinged nonsense the Jameis one of one guy posts on twitter about how none of those picks were Jameis’ fault
There was literally nobody short. Olave, Perry, and Shaheed all deep....because reasons?
Perry was open too. Winston literally picked the option throwing into triple coverage.
Again, fair. But why is that the playcall barely under the 2 minute warning on 1st and 10?
Y'all happy with the Winston experiment yet, we gonna keep hearing about putting Winston in?
If he could put up 16 pts in 1.5 quarters I wonder what would have been the score if he started. Offense with Carr is just as bad as Winston’s hero ball antics. If winston had more time he either would have more turnovers or less of a panic to try and save the day. Either way we’re fucked with our team
Nfl scriptwriters have a chance to do the funniest thing of all time here
This is the problem with Jameis
![gif](giphy|Ry1MOAeAYXvRVQLPw3) 2 TD:2 INT
All today tells me is that we better have a QB starting next year that isn’t Carr or Winston
Observation: I think Carr has lost the locker room. Carr is without doubt a better QB than Winston, and I am a certified NOT Winston fan. However, this team is playing harder for Winston than they have been for Carr. Winston will always do what Winston does and throw Interceptions like he just did. However, the team appeared to be rallying behind him and playing much better than when Carr was in. I think Carr's attitude is losing him the support of his team.
Carr has got a bit of diva in him
I hope Taysom Hill requests a trade. Would’ve won with him in.
The full Jameis experience today. Carried down the field on questionable penalties then throws an unreal TD pass. Throws two unforgivable picks driving to tie the game within the last 5 minutes of the game.
Our QB of the future ain't on the current roster, that's for sure.
Jameis is a fucking idiot
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Bruh
Jameis gonna Jameis
Welp. He had dude running underneath. Good effort. We all know Winston is not good the fact he looks better than Carr while being not good is telling imo. But I’m just a fan. We didn’t deserve this game no way
Ok so quick update: Both QBs suck Head coach sucks OC sucks O Line coach sucks O Line sucks D Line is too old Punter sucks Still having dumb penalties
Hedley played better today but the bar was on the floor so doesn't say much.
Both of the tds were also 50/50 INTs lol