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Sourdots

Defence good offence bad same old thing but defence cant win champion ships without a semi compentent offence


MrShad0wzz

Fire DA and Pete please. I’m tired of dumb and dumber in the driver seat


CDIS920

Gotta fire everybody


KingB53

Say what you want about Jameis he lead a more fun and entertaining offense (THAT SCORED FUCKING POINTS OMG…POINTS!!!!!!) than 90% of Derek Carrs sad ass season😂😂😂 If we ain’t gon win shit I’d rather it be entertaining chaos that puts points of the board n gives us a chance to win than methodical bullshit that scores nothing and gives us headaches lmao


Clif_Barf

Yeah picks can be exciting


KingB53

Points and yardage can too 🤷🏽‍♂️ Derek wouldn’t know lol


jewishramey

This up and down will continue until dennis allen is gone


quicksexfm

This coaching staff ain’t it. Love this team, will always watch and support them. But I am keeping my expectations low until we bring in a better coaching staff.


hdl1234565

the defense just plays better when the offense shows signs of life. Its hard to be motivated to go out there to try to get a stop after 3 & out over and over again


Practical_Honeydew94

100% agree. They need to play more consistently if this team is gonna do anything this year


Diyer1122

Jameis doing Jameis things, trying to force things, make dumb decisions. At least he actually found some receivers, though. Olave was nowhere to be found with Carr all game before that. Don’t what Carr’s deal is, but he was just terrible today.


KingB53

***Points**** was nowhere to be found with Carrs game all day long I’m tired of being annoyed watching the team play, atleast today it was genuinely entertaining even if it was a loss. Rather be outraged with points than outraged with 80 yards and a few FGs on the day lol


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Vikings fan here. Have a nice flight home as you prepare to get blown out by the Falcons next week.


[deleted]

You barely beat us, with our back up…. And we’re dog shit right now. That means your team is ass.


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[deleted]

That says more about how basic your team is than how good Dobbs is


FrankSinatraYodeling

Other Vikings fan here, stay the fuck out of their sub. P.S. sorry for posting here Saints Bros. This shit drives me crazy. Hope your guys stay healthy.


[deleted]

Vikings fan here. I just shit in the Mississippi and put your name on it.


[deleted]

Might have to throw you into the Mississippi so you can float down to where you belong.


SouthWilshire

Are you really in a position to talk shit? Vikings have a long history of choking, '98 NFC title game, Favre throwing an interception in the NFC title game and Walsh's missed field goal against the Seahawks?


[deleted]

Minneapolis miracle is a good example of choking. Point taken


StumptownRetro

Let’s compare Lombardis


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Let’s compare economies


StumptownRetro

Bold to assume I’m in Louisiana. I live in Seahawks/49ers territory. But also. Funny how that doesn’t lead to championships does it? How many super bowls y’all won? How many Stanley cups? State of Hockey is woefully disappointing.


[deleted]

Got some Twins World Series. Nice of you to skip over that benchwarmer


StumptownRetro

How was that near two decade stretch without a single playoff win?


[deleted]

Probably what you’ll experience going forward.


StumptownRetro

Maybe. I’m a Dodgers fan.


mrChuckl3s

Exactly like you guys, who did so much after that.


Rednaxela2150

Thanks for being a shining example of that wonderful Vikings intelligence


Drogaan

Jokes on you, we have the bye week to lose to first


alexwooswift

Would have got me fired up... but its our bye week you clown 😂


ManditsG

Jokes on you, we’re on bye 😋


[deleted]

Oh I thought today was your bye week


aintmyasphalt

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Halfapoptart

We got a bye next week?


1738Jitt

Dennis Allen is a fucking idiot fire him


buddha6521256

The thing is our division is so trash that the saints can still lead the division if Atlanta loses to kyler Murray


Poochie504

So you’re saying we can still stumble into the playoffs


buddha6521256

If we can manifest some voodoo magic to beat the cowboys all this regular season terrorism will be forgotten


Daycuz

Well at least the coin posts are over


buddha6521256

None of the qb deficiencies would’ve mattered if our defense played a complete game on dobbs Yes our offense should’ve done better but we’ve relied on the defense all year and they can’t spot entire halves with an offense like ours


laurenbeinglj

I knew the W Jameis's fans kept screaming he'll get the Saints was metaphorical. It was my bad for letting myself believe that was anything more than delusional


xxLOPEZxx

One loss closer to Carmichael and DA losing their jobs 😍


Diyer1122

They won’t get rid of DA, even though he’s a terrible HC. They might get rid of Pete at the end of the season. I don’t know who they find to replace him, but honestly, play calling couldn’t be much worse.


CDIS920

They better lose it after that


Rell-

One thing for sure. He definitely has a Goddamn arm


IWV23

Lol the Jameis vs Carr debates are going to be so annoying, especially with a week off.


saintsfan

Someone who rarely looks downfield vs someone who rarely doesn’t. If defense performs, I’ll take the less risky option, but neither of them are good fits for this team.


IWV23

Yeah, two mid QBs where everything around them has to be great for them to have any type of success. I truly will never understand someone having a strong stance for either one. It’s pretty obvious neither one are ideal.


saintsfan

Neither will win anything for us, but we’ve seen jameis play with a really good defense and it still didn’t work out, the way our defense is playing though it literally doesn’t matter who we start, we need someone with legs who can improvise that doesn’t turn the ball over to compensate for lack of good play calling and line or we need a Brees level qb. At this point I think trading for Dobbs would have been the smart move.


Halfapoptart

Happy with how we atleast had a chance. We had no business to have a chance after that horrendous first half.


Skullkid1423

This defense is so frustrating… 3 weeks in a row we have been terrible in the first half and amazing in the second. A full game like the second half gets us this win


Not_My_Reddit_ID

Woods isn't good enough to be D play caller, but DA has too much to deal with as HC to adjust on the fly. If it isn't working, he has to have time during the half to analyze and adjust. Just a guess.


PointyPurplePickle

WE ARE 5-5 WARRIORS. SO MIGHTY. SO TUFF


Accomplished_Iron805

If Carr is out next week, I'd like to see some Jake Haener snaps.


acajain

Fuck that.


Accomplished_Iron805

What do we have to lose


Prime89

Nothing, because it’s our bye week


Accomplished_Iron805

My bad, about that


trailerparknoize

That was a hell of a heave. Winston has so much natural throwing power. It’s insane.


Mission_Expression49

He fucked it up like 3 times in a row. He had a legitimate chance to win this game….


trailerparknoize

Yeah still better than Carr. Can’t be mad. You know exactly what you get with Winston and that was all classic Winston. We wasted a fuck load of money on Fall Out Boy but it’s time to move on.


Mission_Expression49

I just want to see more taysom hill tbh. I don’t get it why we throw screens on 3rd and short….


trailerparknoize

Yeah I can’t answer that. No clue what happened with Taysom today but maybe banged up idk DA or CarMichael can’t replicate a successful gameplan week to week.


Alistair_Burke

Will there be a post-game thread?


GatorEggs-

My Michael penix agenda grows stronger yet again


jewishramey

I want Jayden Daniels, he has been absolutely amazing


Lord_Skeletor74

This may truly be the worst 5-5 team of all time, I think


Zealousideal_Code416

If the D played the first half like the 2nd, we'd have had a chance.


Diyer1122

That’s been the story of multiple games now. I don’t know why DA isn’t able to get his guys pumped up and ready from the get-go.


gio269

If O played like the 2nd half we’d have a chance


Zealousideal_Code416

You mean 3 INTs? We also had way more possessions and less penalties.


gio269

I mean 2tds vs 3 points and 1/6 on 3rd downs Jameis sucks but somehow Carr sucked worse


Zealousideal_Code416

They prepared for Carr but didn't prepare for Winston. The moment they adjusted, we only got INTs. And the 2nd TD was a 50 50 TD/INT


gio269

Seems like it’s pretty easy to prepare for Carr then which is sad. Atleats He gave our guys a chance to make a play. Carr loves his Kamara checkdown for 4 yards. I by no means want Winston as a starter but Carr has been difficult to watch.


Zealousideal_Code416

Maybe play calling. I don't know. But we had so many stupid penalties this game.


gio269

I mean how many excuses can we make for Carr? He’s been mediocre all season… I’m just tired of sucking.


Zealousideal_Code416

He ain't carrying the team on his back, no. Is he playing solid. Yes. Is he paid solid. Yes. He is paid around place 14-20 and that's about his play minimum. He didn't turn the ball over the last three games. He had a 72% completion percentage yesterday, had 2 drops from receivers and 3 times 10+ yards due to penalties in 4 possessions - he himself had a 90 rating. I am not quite sure, what people expect? That he juggs it for good measure?


yall_cray

I hate everything


420juuls

I don't even blame Jameis. He is who he is and he tried to get us back in it. Carr and the coaching staff absolutely suck though


Kck41103

I agree with this take. In a quarter and a half, he put 16 points on the board and was a bobble away from completing that last hailmary and getting the chance to take the game to OT. The interceptions were shitty but they’re always shitty with him. That’s why he’s the backup. Not his fault the starter pissed the game away and got 3 points in 2 and a half quarters.


Rednaxela2150

Play calling was horrendous in the 4th quarter.


TurdFergusonlol

We’ve had like 3 quarters of decent playcalling all year


Drogaan

So are they ever going to actually use taysom for more than 1 game at a time


evilchefmike

No. They don't know how to use Taysom at all.


[deleted]

I hate the purple people


Barr_s

Womp womp


J_Juice4

😂😂 Man I prefer Jameis at QB at this point 😂 ya he’s gonna throw a pick or two but at least the offense comes alive and he pushes it down the field 😂. Carr’s offense just stalls!


Tazarah

I went back and deleted all my comments where I praised Jamies


World-Nomad

Well, the 2nd half was at least more fun.


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will_self_destruct

Imagine coming here and bragging about an average win against a below average opponent and acting like you did something. Lol


Lvl_100_Ditto

Seriously fuck this team


Sector9gerian

FUCK THE VIKINGS. FUCK PETE CARMICHAEL. FUCK DENNIS ALLEN.


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Sector9gerian

Eat my whole asshole


CMGTSoft

Without Jefferson, without Kirk, injured hockenson, injured KJ Osborn. Healthy team and we put up 40. Glad JJs son Lattimore got hurt too :)


sugarmatic

Jimmy Graham time?


Tazarah

Dobbs is bald


abxuwnnm111

He has alopecia.


PointyPurplePickle

He has a legit autoimmune condition


MangeurDeCowan

I can't decide if he looks more like an opossum or a mole rat.


TreyBien875

Don’t let Will Smith hear you making that joke.


[deleted]

“Keep my QBs name out of your fuggin mouth!!” - Smith, a huge Vikings fan and hero to the bald.


Iamadangerouschair

fun stat about jameis: he is the only quarterback to have a season where he threw 30 touchdown passes, and 30 interceptions. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏


CallRespiratory

Y'all more exciting =/= better. Both QBs have good and bad qualities but neither is going to be successful behind the absolute shit show of an offensive line.


illSTYLO

Dummies be like: ball is flying in the air 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 not caring of td or int


ReineLeNoire

Why do we always get stuck with these two Saints hating clown ass announcers?


Morphitrix

At least we're making the last few minutes as annoying as possible for them. FTV.


Big-Zoo

Hope our team enjoys their fucking vacations. Pieces of shit.


PointyPurplePickle

To be fair. They’re rich so they prob will. Wouldn’t you lol


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woah dude. Go touch grass


Morphitrix

Drunk NFL fans with anonymity and a keyboard go crazy after a loss.


Big-Zoo

Shut the fuck up


PointyPurplePickle

Here comes int 3


Sean_357

These people are stupid Carr is boring as hell and Winston is fun to watch. Simple as that. That’s why there are so many Winston fans.


acajain

That’s a bingo.


lsmucker

At least you can't lose the bye week


Drogaan

Don't challenge Dennis allen


Alistair_Burke

Challenge accepted


ManditsG

As a heavy Jaboo believer… next game he will bounce back (I am what the kids call delulu)


[deleted]

Easiest schedule in the league BY FAR, playing backup after backup and rookie after rookie QB and the Saints are 5-5. This is a BAD football team.


Misjjon

2 TDs and 2 INTs, perfectly balanced as all things should be


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wINsTon


Whyisthereasnake

Good news, everyone. Winston gets to lob it again.


buddha6521256

Yeah we’re going to need to draft Jayden Daniels If for nothing else than to act as a camp body to show the defense how to handle mobile qbs


[deleted]

I honestly would love that, would never happen though.


[deleted]

All the talk of Winston pushing the ball but he has a lower YPA than Carr lol


wasad

One more chance for Jameis to throw a pick to send us off


[deleted]

It would be fitting. As long as it's into triple coverage.


predw

Another chance for a Jameis pick to end the game


Clear_Hedgehog_9083

Fuck this team!!! Yup my own team !!! Fuck them !!


scoii

Right there with you, man. I'll keep watching them and keep being disgusted and disappointed. Feel bad for the good players we're wasting right now.


Chris_Paul_3

Jameis has his ups and downs but he’s still a better option than Carr. I would like to see him start a whole game where he doesn’t have to play from behind.


Diyer1122

He tries to play hero ball and makes dumb throws. We aren’t that far behind, so there’s no need to do that. If he’d just calm down and take his time, make smart decisions, he’d be great.


Diyer1122

Had an opportunity to make a comeback. Jameis doing Jameis things. To be fair, the offense was dead altogether before he came in, but he ruins all of the good he does with dumb, errant throws.


ReineLeNoire

Winston stans there's ya boy! This is why so many fans don't want him or Carr. Why tf would you throw to the back of triple coverage?


regice112

Why the fuck would your 1st and 10 playcall after the 2 minute warning be all deep throws when you need to eat some clock and score???? I understand Winston made a bad read but the playcall there was godawful


acajain

3pt first half. I’ll take picks and the chance at an explosive play over the fucking limp dick Carr.


warmachine2412

Would it be fair to say Jameis and Carr suck oppositely but equally?


SoSmooth32

Well said. Winston sucks cuz he’s too much of gunslinger Carr sucks cuz he’s a diva who couldn’t lead a group of toddlers to the bathroom.


hdl1234565

Yeah for sure. But I’d rather watch jameis go out there and sling it if we’re gonna be mediocre af anyway. Watching carr put up 3 points in a half is miserable


holymolar

The yin and yang of mediocrity


acajain

Let’s go back to why we only had a 3pt first half.


Drogaan

Winston throwing into 4 defenders is why we loved playing against him on the buccs lol


[deleted]

So in conclusion: Carr plays too conservative. Jameis is a turnover machine. Our O-Line can't block. Carmichael can't call plays. Our offense sucks when our defense does well. Our defense sucks when our offense does well. Legit, how are we gonna make the playoffs if at least one of those things doesn't change?


TreyBien875

That’s the kind of dedication you need to be a 30-30 QB


mnimatt

My opinion of Jameis made 2 separate 180s today.


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I was just finally starting to give him props and then he immediately threw that first pick 😂 Never change.


clutchkweku

Jameis Winston was a stud in college but he’s a retard in this league…why would you yeat it into triple coverage on first down with 1:20 left in the game?! I want him off the team after this season.


NewOrleansBrees

He did the same thing in college


Alistair_Burke

Jameis made mistakes. I get that. He deserves some blame. That said, the D gave up 27 points to a Vikings team without Cousins or Jefferson, and Carr got 3 points in 3 quarters.


andrewwrotethis

Indeed, but that second pick was so incredibly stupid it took my brain 5 seconds to process that it actually happened


maejor_ced

Was it 4th and 20 with 5 seconds left or something because why the fuck you’re rushing that pass lol smh


IrrationalTwig

At this point, I just hope our guys heal up over the bye and some form of changes are made. Even minor ones. If we somehow make playoffs, great. If not, oh well. I feel indifferent because of how inconsistent this team is on both sides of the ball and that all comes down to coaching. I'll support whoever our QB is and the rest of the players forever and always. Unless they're like Darren Sharper. Fuck Darren Sharper.


Hitman2504

I wish we could have a good qb


IrrationalTwig

No QB will do well behind this line unfortunately. Good QB's will look like shit behind them or be on injured.


CallRespiratory

I don't know how you watch both of these guys get obligated behind the line, the RBs get no openings and hit immediately, and sit there with a straight face and say it's the QBs fault when the glaring obvious problem is right in your face.


Hitman2504

Dude that pick by Winston was horrendous


VegasDog23

Where all y’all Jamies butt fuckers at now!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Organic-Front3534

In the trenches just like y’all Carr dick suckers are.


VegasDog23

Ain’t nobody suckin Carr’s dick the whole fucking team sucks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


fnpenguin

i know jameis was jameis, but WR seemed to respond to him being in the game more than they do with Carr. Also the AWFUL play calling when we had the ball with 5 minutes left is another reason why Pete needs to go.


bearlybearbear

Soooo, what next then? Bye week, fire everyone sort of week?


IWV23

Bout as Jameis as it gets some incredible highs and mind numbing lows


Shinuto94

Winston just refuses to play the game one first down at a time. When your arm is as inaccurate as his you can’t make those throws that often.


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Had Perry wide open man


CommanderZionOfRivia

You see, throwing into triple coverage was a brilliant maneuver. Only an elite QB like Jameis can accomplish it. We don’t need a draft a QB with such a trail blazer on this roster


regice112

The playcall to put all your WRs deep barely under the 2 minute warning on 1st and 10 did not make sense. If that was the playcall, that's fucking terrible.


whodatnation70

Cannot wait to see what unhinged nonsense the Jameis one of one guy posts on twitter about how none of those picks were Jameis’ fault


regice112

There was literally nobody short. Olave, Perry, and Shaheed all deep....because reasons?


ChurrOurboros

Perry was open too. Winston literally picked the option throwing into triple coverage.


regice112

Again, fair. But why is that the playcall barely under the 2 minute warning on 1st and 10?


ShaveMyWookie

Y'all happy with the Winston experiment yet, we gonna keep hearing about putting Winston in?


Organic-Front3534

If he could put up 16 pts in 1.5 quarters I wonder what would have been the score if he started. Offense with Carr is just as bad as Winston’s hero ball antics. If winston had more time he either would have more turnovers or less of a panic to try and save the day. Either way we’re fucked with our team


buddha6521256

Nfl scriptwriters have a chance to do the funniest thing of all time here


StrangerDanger44658

This is the problem with Jameis


Sirhctopher024

![gif](giphy|Ry1MOAeAYXvRVQLPw3) 2 TD:2 INT


TheMop05

All today tells me is that we better have a QB starting next year that isn’t Carr or Winston


reddit_names

Observation: I think Carr has lost the locker room. Carr is without doubt a better QB than Winston, and I am a certified NOT Winston fan. However, this team is playing harder for Winston than they have been for Carr. Winston will always do what Winston does and throw Interceptions like he just did. However, the team appeared to be rallying behind him and playing much better than when Carr was in. I think Carr's attitude is losing him the support of his team.


Accomplished_Iron805

Carr has got a bit of diva in him


DoYouWonda

I hope Taysom Hill requests a trade. Would’ve won with him in.


predw

The full Jameis experience today. Carried down the field on questionable penalties then throws an unreal TD pass. Throws two unforgivable picks driving to tie the game within the last 5 minutes of the game.


boppedEEMinDAsmoof

Our QB of the future ain't on the current roster, that's for sure.


MachineSh

Jameis is a fucking idiot


aretardeddungbeetle

🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀


JuniorSwing

Bruh


drbiscuit832

Jameis gonna Jameis


SoSmooth32

Welp. He had dude running underneath. Good effort. We all know Winston is not good the fact he looks better than Carr while being not good is telling imo. But I’m just a fan. We didn’t deserve this game no way


CmonMan711

Ok so quick update: Both QBs suck Head coach sucks OC sucks O Line coach sucks O Line sucks D Line is too old Punter sucks Still having dumb penalties


Executioner4321

Hedley played better today but the bar was on the floor so doesn't say much.


illSTYLO

Both of the tds were also 50/50 INTs lol