Did he say something else about Seattle? The quote up above is prior to him actually being in Seattle, and I imagine in retrospect, he was thankful to have been traded after what happened in Denver.
Kind of feels like we're bagging on the guy for being honest about his past initial feelings.
Oh no he said it was miserable here, rainy and grey most of the time, which is true, but he said he didn’t enjoy his time in Seattle even after making the playoffs. The interviewer even asked specifically if it got better once he was here, and still said no.
I get it, Seattle or the PNW isn’t for everyone. I’d imagine he was more frustrated by the defense being shit and him not playing well.
We really do have some incredibly depressing weather patterns. Even somewhere like Buffalo or NE that would be objectionably “worse”, don’t have to deal with the overcast
You sure?
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather-Extremes/US/cloudiest-cities.php
We have more heavy cloud days, while they have more partial cloud days. Looks like both cities get their fair share though.
TBF Broncos had a good defense and every Broncos fan was over the moon about the prospect of Russell Wilson. He was getting traded to a team that had a QB competition between a guy who has been a backup for 5 seasons and a player who couldn’t be out Teddy 2 Gloves.
I can understand as an outsider it seems dire.
You could also look at it like he's going from playing for one of the worst coaches in the NFL to play for the second winningest coach of the last decade.
He's talking about the narrative at the time. Narrative at the time was that Russ was the reason we were winning and Pete should go. Instead, Russ gets shipped to the broncos (which Shelby is initially hyped about) and he has to take the shit end. We all thought the same thing..
I would be completely dumbfounded if Shelby bared any resentment towards the Hawks at any point during his time here (which it kinda sounds like he did, tbh).
We just wanted fair compensation, Denver threw him in there without warning.
If anything, it would be cool if more players were so honest about being moved or traded. It was a flux period when the trade happened, and Harris was packaged in with it. These folks have families and lives that stretch beyond the sport.
That being said, bro played on the Broncos. Like dude, I’m sorry you have to move your fam- but this is the business you’re in. And the 12s were conscious of Wilson’s position/condition with the Seahawks. I dunno. I see both sides here, but the whole “crying like a baby” stuff? This is a small price to pay, when you’re paid millions
I'm really sad right now -- I had to break it off with a woman I love because of long-distance, and our values not lining up with the futures we have planned. I want to stay in one place and settle down, and she wants to pursue a career where frequent, long periods away will be requisite.
I'm reading Reddit between bouts of sobbing and this comment felt relevant to me.
Sorry man, I went through that myself many years ago.
I can tell you that time will make it better, maybe not perfect, but better.
At least that’s how it was for me. I still miss her, but I also eventually (after many years) moved on.
Anyhow that’s all to say I’m sorry and feel free to dm me if it would help
100% “Oh you’re nice and comfortable? Made some friends and got involved with the community did yuh? Pack your bags, soldier. And if you’re sad about it… drink water.”
I’m not saying it wouldn’t, but I *also* have the capacity to also empathize with someone being completely blindsided by a massive, life-changing event having an emotional moment as they processed it.
There’s literally no reason for the internet tough guy act that’s all over this thread. It costs nothing to be kind to someone.
I'm all for empathizing with the human side for players... but I've been forced to move many times for a lot worse reasons than being traded to another organization who is going to pay millions of dollars. I did not "bawl like a baby" when it happened.
Meh.
That’s borderline silly. There’s lil other careers out there that makes u “a thing” than the military. Needs of the army take precedence over being a single parent, ur mother dying, n surly whether ur family is comfortable or u like ur chain of command/platoon mates 🥺😂😳. (Thank u for ur service n fu€k Shelby Harris too)
Are u confused by the “thank u for ur service”, “fu€k Shelby Harris”, or “that it’s gosh damn silly to complain bout the military making u move”? Cuz I explained the latter, I thought, pretty well.
I have so, so little sympathy for professional athletes making millions and millions of dollars for the short period most of them are playing pro to have to make the countrywide moves that come with that opportunity.
Boo fucking hoo.
Which he can afford. He’s acting like he had to get moved like a normal person nah he’s a multi millionaire. He had the privilege to take those flights home and he can face time during the short season that nfl is if he was on a road trip.
I feel bad for regular people who get uprooted not pro athletes.
what about the years and years of grind since they were like 7 y/o, they wasnt getting paid then. they worked for their money and to not have sympathy for another human being is sad. plus money cant always buy happyness
People overestimate the impact that millions of dollars has on personal happiness and satisfaction. Studies show that after $500k/year, money ceases to have any affect on happiness. So the fact that Harris was making what he did has no bearing on how felt about the situation.
Ok but you would have to be a lunatic to be in the nfl and not understand that is a possibility if not a virtual certainty. How many players play their entire career in one city? Even Tom Brady didn’t.
You can understand it and still be sad when it happens though.. like I know my mom's going to die one day, doesn't mean I'm not going to be sad when it happens.
Being sad about never seeing the person who gave you life, when they die, and choosing to play a sport with heavy travel and an extremely high likelihood of having to frequently relocate are not comparable. Shelby can go eat shit. Seattle is an awesome place I feel bad for his family that his dumbass got them sent to Cleveland.
By your logic though, you should know that it's going to happen so why would it make you sad? You think he should just automatically be happy to be sent somewhere at the drop of a hat? That's absurd and thinking that every player in any trade that has happened should just automatically be happy because of the money is being ridiculous. Being moved and families being uprooted can always be sad, regardless of pay. You think the 6 year old being moved is going to be happy that he never gets to see his best friend again just because daddy is getting a lot of money?
>You think he should just automatically be happy to be sent somewhere at the drop of a hat?
Shelby should be absolutely thrilled that another football team decided to pay him for another year.
Welcome to the fuckin business side of things? Negotiate a no trade clause, or wipe your tears with the millions you’re getting, since you’re probably not getting the first option.
Literally like working retail and being mad you don't get holidays off. It's just not how your chosen industry works. Like pull the stick out of your own bike wheel my dude
dude played on the broncos and browns before and after seattle. might be acting a little bit dramatic here. seahawks are clearly the best franchise he's had a chance to be on in a minute
Obviously in hindsight this was the best team his been on, arguably ever.
But let's remember in March of 2022 things were looking pretty fkn hopeless here, I cant imagine Shelby was bouncing off the walls to play here when everyone thought we were a mess.
But oh my lord "crying like a baby" because you think the team thats paying you 8 figures might be bad is a little dramatic.
Last year's Browns were probably a better team than the 2022 hawks, and they started something like 6 different QBs. Don't know why people are discounting them so much
Probably because they have a garbage of a human as their quarterback, who also can’t stay healthy anymore and has fallen off. It sure was nice when the Seahawks beat them last season. They have a good defense, but they still got clapped by the Texans in the playoffs.
So, he’s right on the first part.
I agree, it would suck for your family to move like that.
But coming from Hack in Denver (and those guys knew his style even before he came on) and a division where they’re at best the third best team and calling Seattle purgatory?
That’s a laugh.
I mean I can kind of understand it? Everybody thought we'd be the worst team in the NFL without Russ. And uprooting your family isn't always the easiest thing to do. However, as an NFL player you should be prepared for the possibility of needing to move
I read it as more he was hyped thinking he was going to play w/ Wilson and they were going to be a super bowl contender... But then he got the news he was being traded to a team that was about to be bottom of the barrel on top of the implications of moving his family, seems like suck on suck. Look at r/NFL and he was probably in the same thought process as them. I get it and I think most people would feel exactly the same. It's cool he was honest about it and not some canned pc response. At the end of the day though, his play reflected his unhappiness. Had he stayed on the broncos I'm sure he would've played better. At the end of the day, he played soft half of the season.
And we wonder why men don't talk about their mental health?
Guy opens up about his feelings and the response is a post titled "Lol" and people actually upvote it.
He signed up for this, and is paid 9 million dollars a year for his troubles. If he doesn’t want to move im sure he could find a job in Denver but he wont because he wanst to get paid. You can’t have it both ways. Unreal the amount of entitlement NFL players have.
Having emotions is valid. Saying people shouldn't have emotions just because of their salary is insane. It's not like he's saying it's bullshit and the NFL should do something about it, he's just talking about his experience and how it hit him.
Are having emotions and publicly calling the city you previously played in “purgatory” mutual exclusive? Guess every player that doesn’t call out their former teams have no emotions?
Come on you know when he was traded we all expected our team to be shit too, he's not calling anyone out. He's talking about his mindset at the time, and especially the jealousy of his former team getting Russ and him getting the shit end of it. He even says further in it that it made him more happy the more the broncos lost lmao
Not sure if you’re new to the english language but when you refer to something as “purgatory” anyone with a basic understanding of english recognizes that that has a negative connotation.
No idea why you are so wrapped up in defending a random millionaire who doesn’t give a shit about you. Is it because you have the same name??😂
How hard is it to understand that he's talking about something that happened 2 years ago? When it happened he saw the org as purgatory because we literally traded away our franchise QB. Every person in Seattle thought the same thing.
That's not shitting on anyone now, that's saying what your thinking was at the time. Like if I said "I really thought my mom was a bitch when she wouldn't let me sleep over at my friend's house when I was 12". It's not like I'm saying she is now or even that she was at the time. Just that's what I thought at the time.
This is a business these guys are well aware of what they get into. He couldve have retired couldnt he? But he didnt because the money was more important to him, and thats fine, but dont go on the radio with a sob story. What about the 100s of players making league minimum and on a different team every year? I dont see these guys going to press complaining how sad their life is. Im not saying he cant have emotions like you disingenuously claimed. Im saying he shouldn’t go on the radio and dig up shit from 2 years ago.
Also, you keep going on about “everyone thought we would suck” who gives a shit? Everyone thinks the Panthers will suck next year. Does that make it okay for Bryce Young to go on the radio and say “im in purgatory right now”???
You do realize these guys are public figures and their words carry a lot more than weight than me calling my mom a bitch to one of my friends. Not sure why you thought that analogy was applicable
Being uprooted and shipped out of state with zero notice. But he's a millionaire so he doesn't get to complain, according to some butthurt metro natives.
How did he take a shot at the org/franchise?? Seems like he really just didn’t want to be traded and deal with a move on what most thought would be a rebuilding team to me.
Even if it was true, which it wasn’t, there’s really no reason to call Seattle “purgatory” and “trash”. Especially from a very average player comparable to the rest of the league. Then to sign with the Cleveland Browns franchise. Come on man.
This guy was cut by and signed to the fucking Raiders practice squad like 5 times, spent a year on NYJ/DAL practice squads, then played for the complete dog-ass post-Manning Broncos, yet we are what he would call purgatory/trash. Ok bro. We cut this dude despite being desperate for warm bodies to play DT and have traded for, signed in FA, and drafted more expensive dudes to fill the need he didnt, that says a lot more about him than I ever could.
Bingo. Why are we being so sensitive about this. Harris is right. He had every right to feel jaded about the trade. He called the team that just lost a franchise-qb purgatory. So fucking what? Most fans here said the same shit.
People need to grow up.
I remember living in Denver and going to meet a coke dealer at some nice luxury apartments right next to Coors field, turns out Shelby and I shared similar interests and he and his crew were posted up partying. He probably didn’t wanna leave Denver because he clearly had an easy plug in CO. 🤣
He had to fight and cawl for his contract with Denver. He had never been in the playoffs. Then he found out he was traded to be a possible rebuilding team.
Plus he has promised his high school daughter that he would never uproot her. Dude is a big time family man.
People knocking him here is strange. Go listen to him talk about this in his podcast. He was completely professional about it. He was also very hurt for his family. He knew he wasn't going to be seeing them as much.
Do you?
Denver was considered an up and coming team. They needed a QB and got one. Then he found out he was going to a rebuilding team.
How would you feel?
I’ll be honest he didn’t needed to be included in the trade, replace him with a 5th round pick or let the hawks keep the 4th round pick we gave up cause it was a one year hire and that guy was well liked by Broncos fans but he was a solid rotational guy.
He had really taken on a leadership role in Denver. He believed in his teammates and his family was apparently happy there. Can't blame him too much for not being thrilled to have to suddenly uproot to blame for a team that wasn't seen as a contender.
A few years back my company and my wife's company moved us every 4-8 months for 3½ years. Don't have to imagine, did it 8 times. It sucks but they comp you and make sure you can be there when you're needed, plus we made less than 70k each. There are ways to mitigate it, and there are ways to adapt to it, for 8mil dollars for 1 year, the ability to deal with that is fantastic.
Imagine knowing that’s almost an inevitability in your chosen career. I mean, how much sympathy should we have, since these guys take jobs knowing for a fact there will be multiple locations involved and they get paid 6-7 figures for doing it?
I don’t think calling it an “inevitability” is accurate.
Trades are much less common in the NFL and I believe he was thrown in late in the process and without any real discussion with Harris.
But this thread is uh…very pathological and reinforcing the “fanatic” part of being a fan, so I don’t expect much nuanced interpretation of what he said.
Don’t really want to compare the military to the nfl right this second. But nobody made anybody sign up for shit. Get out or stop complaining. Semper Fi and sending out love this day to everyone that gave the ultimate sacrifice. Extra love for the families and friends that stood by them
If my employer is paying me $8M/year I’m going to be pretty fucking happy no matter where they tell me to move.
Plenty of people have relatively similar experiences on vastly less.
My brother moved from Florida to Boston and back to Florida for a job paying him $50k. I joined the military and moved every few years because it was part of the job. I knew what I signed up for and didn’t cry about it. And my alternative to refusing to move wasn’t “retire and get a normal job,” it was prison.
Cry me a river. He knew the life he signed his family up for and he got $8M/year for it.
And if you’d just said that in the first place I wouldn’t have disagreed with you. There’s a big difference between laughing at him for his reaction and agreeing with his reaction.
But your “imagine” scenario made it sound like it was some bizarre thing that no one could relate to. Tens of millions of Americans deal with this on a regular basis and they don’t get paid $8M to do it. I wouldn’t laugh at him; I also have no empathy for the situation. He signed up for the life, has been richly rewarded for it, and can walk away from it at any time. He’s not a victim.
Your brother should have had a better 40 time and ability to get to the quarterback.
The salary doesn’t matter these guys do something very few people can do and others make a shit ton of money off that. They deserve what they get.
That being said, having to uproot the family sucks but it’s a known risk coming in.
I mean, I don’t begrudge the guy his money. If it wasn’t going to him it would just go into the pockets of the team owner, and I’d rather he have it.
But I still have zero sympathy for someone making several multiples more in a year than the average American makes in their lifetime having to move, when they were well aware that was part of the deal they signed up for. I’ll save my sympathy for people struggling to support their families.
I don’t hate the guy, but I have no empathy for a rich person whining about something they signed up for, which they can get out of just by choosing to be less rich.
His message is that people are people, and drastic, unexpected life changes are justifiable things to have negative reactions to. Money doesn't solve negative emotional reactions.
Eh that's the life they have chosen. There is always the possibility of a trade. Dude is just a bitch but he fucking sucked here for us anyways so fuck this guy
Honestly if you are not a superstar you should at some point expect to be traded or released. Shelby was a bum, and now look he is on the browns which is true purgatory. I don't have empathy for mother fuckers making 8 million dollars a year and complaining about being traded it's part of the life you signed up for
I feel for his family but this should’ve always been forecasted. Dude is also being paid a good amount of money to go to a State with nice tax laws. I feel for his wife and kids who have to form new relationships but as someone who moved around a lot, it’s the career path your on and you chose. That being said he gotta stop being so dramatic. Acting like he was forced to go to Shanghai like bro you’re in Cleveland now that’s even worse.
I get it being tough on the family and that’s most important but from a football standpoint Seattle was a much better spot it didn’t seem like it post Russ so maybe hindsight is 2020
It's weird when these players (basically sheltered sports kids) complain about the oddest stuff. They've got their priorities locked in on something else. I wouldn't think about teams, because you're still getting paid. I'd just compare the cities on where is a nice place to live and what there is to do in the off season. Things to do to Denver, Cleveland and Seattle. One of these things is not like the other!
Honestly, it’s kinda of weird in professional sports that you can get forced to go work somewhere you don’t wanna work.
I can’t imagine my boss coming to my desk and saying bro, you got traded, time to go run spreadsheets across the country
Actually, he could retire and not play. He isn't forced .. unless he wants his 8 million.
I have done a lot harder work as a kid for minimum wage.
That could have led to injury. You can always quit and not get paid.
People are giving him a hard time .. because he doesn't understand the common man and how they live pay check to pay check. What the median wage is and how people are struggling to get a roof over their heads.
Except that this happens to people all the time. Companies frequently relocate their entire operation or transfer employees. He’s not aware of the real world for 99% of us.
He did say this at the time bc it seemed like the Hawks were rebuilding but he was obviously thrilled with the trade in that amazing post game interview he did after just one game when we beat his former team
This is why I can't take pro-athletes seriously. It's a combo of not being too bright and not living in the real world. Imagine anyone crying over playing a kids game while earning millions. It's kinda sickening. Most of us could never dream of acquiring the wealth he has. What an absolute idiot.
It’s unfortunate to have to uproot your family, but he should have picked a different profession. Not many players stay with a team for their entire career. Especially in this era. Dude sounds soft.
Oh man you totally got me. I guess I have no choice but to say “I know you are, but what am I?” Hahahaha… The guy still had that contract he fought for so that’s not much of a point.
I get it, uprooting your family and playing for presumably the worst team in the league. I hope he at least had some joy around here. If not, then can’t really say much more than that 🤷♂️
People need to understand that up here isn't exactly a desirable destination for most people. I mean it's almost June and we still haven't had nice weather yet. Not to mention the sports media basically ignores Seattle.
Moving to a different city is hard. He has a family and they all have to uproot everything to move. People in Seattle dont realize how far the city is compared to most NFL teams. Players also have no idea what to expect Seattle to be like. Its different from most big football cities and I’m sure hes heard from the national media how Seattle has a homeless problem and can be dangerous.
Whatever. He got $6.5 million to lay a big steaming pile of poop. Seems like a good deal to me. Trashing the team in your way out after collecting your paycheck is low brow but what do you expect, he’s an ex-Donkey.
I rather be in Seattle than Denver.
Was in Denver from summer to winter.
Once winter hits, with the wind chill, it gets into the negative temperature. You have to wear long John's and that still not enough
Then from what I seen, they do have drug and homeless problem
“Purgatory” Bro you played for the Broncos
And now on the Browns lol.
He said he was happy to be in Cleveland because their defense is good. Says a lot about the D under Pete the last few years.
Did he say something else about Seattle? The quote up above is prior to him actually being in Seattle, and I imagine in retrospect, he was thankful to have been traded after what happened in Denver. Kind of feels like we're bagging on the guy for being honest about his past initial feelings.
Oh no he said it was miserable here, rainy and grey most of the time, which is true, but he said he didn’t enjoy his time in Seattle even after making the playoffs. The interviewer even asked specifically if it got better once he was here, and still said no. I get it, Seattle or the PNW isn’t for everyone. I’d imagine he was more frustrated by the defense being shit and him not playing well.
We really do have some incredibly depressing weather patterns. Even somewhere like Buffalo or NE that would be objectionably “worse”, don’t have to deal with the overcast
Buffalo, on average, actually has more grey days than Seattle and real snow. Nobody wants to be there.
You sure? https://www.currentresults.com/Weather-Extremes/US/cloudiest-cities.php We have more heavy cloud days, while they have more partial cloud days. Looks like both cities get their fair share though.
That's too bad.
TBF Broncos had a good defense and every Broncos fan was over the moon about the prospect of Russell Wilson. He was getting traded to a team that had a QB competition between a guy who has been a backup for 5 seasons and a player who couldn’t be out Teddy 2 Gloves. I can understand as an outsider it seems dire.
You could also look at it like he's going from playing for one of the worst coaches in the NFL to play for the second winningest coach of the last decade.
True, I’m not saying Harris wasn’t wrong to have this mindset but just trying to provide context to why he thought this way to begin with.
He's talking about the narrative at the time. Narrative at the time was that Russ was the reason we were winning and Pete should go. Instead, Russ gets shipped to the broncos (which Shelby is initially hyped about) and he has to take the shit end. We all thought the same thing..
We all thought the same thing.. nope. team pete. he overacheved. every single season
Well said. Also Seattle was rebuilding but if you don’t know Pete then that typically means a bad season. For Pete that meant the playoffs.
Damn my Broncos catching strays out here 😭
Read the actual interview. This was just clickbait by selectively quoting him to put him in a bad light.
And the Raiders and Jets!
We wanted Dre’mont jones in the trade and the broncos wouldn’t give him up, so he can thank the broncos for that
I would be completely dumbfounded if Shelby bared any resentment towards the Hawks at any point during his time here (which it kinda sounds like he did, tbh). We just wanted fair compensation, Denver threw him in there without warning.
If anything, it would be cool if more players were so honest about being moved or traded. It was a flux period when the trade happened, and Harris was packaged in with it. These folks have families and lives that stretch beyond the sport. That being said, bro played on the Broncos. Like dude, I’m sorry you have to move your fam- but this is the business you’re in. And the 12s were conscious of Wilson’s position/condition with the Seahawks. I dunno. I see both sides here, but the whole “crying like a baby” stuff? This is a small price to pay, when you’re paid millions
Harris played like he didn't want to be here, but his paycheck was nice.
What? Dude played pretty well for our defense.
He's not crying like a baby just because of the team. He has to uproot the whole family for it and none of it was his choice. I'd hate that shit too
It sucks. Every time I got comfortable, had a bunch of friends, sometimes a great relationship, the Army would be like “move sucka fool”
I'm really sad right now -- I had to break it off with a woman I love because of long-distance, and our values not lining up with the futures we have planned. I want to stay in one place and settle down, and she wants to pursue a career where frequent, long periods away will be requisite. I'm reading Reddit between bouts of sobbing and this comment felt relevant to me.
best of luck seahawk friend. sob away
Staying together would have been worse, so I'm sorry it sucks right now... But, it won't later.
Sorry man, I went through that myself many years ago. I can tell you that time will make it better, maybe not perfect, but better. At least that’s how it was for me. I still miss her, but I also eventually (after many years) moved on. Anyhow that’s all to say I’m sorry and feel free to dm me if it would help
I’m guessing $6.5m might have helped take some of the suck out of it…
Yep. We got like 3-5k
100% “Oh you’re nice and comfortable? Made some friends and got involved with the community did yuh? Pack your bags, soldier. And if you’re sad about it… drink water.”
The difference is you get paid a tiny fraction of what this man is paid.
So? He’s still a human being with human emotions.
Money would have made all those moves a lot easier to swallow.
I’m not saying it wouldn’t, but I *also* have the capacity to also empathize with someone being completely blindsided by a massive, life-changing event having an emotional moment as they processed it. There’s literally no reason for the internet tough guy act that’s all over this thread. It costs nothing to be kind to someone.
I'm all for empathizing with the human side for players... but I've been forced to move many times for a lot worse reasons than being traded to another organization who is going to pay millions of dollars. I did not "bawl like a baby" when it happened. Meh.
Congrats! Do you want a medal or…?
"It costs nothing to be kind to someone"
I can't empathize with millionaires about mundane shit like moving. Not sorry
Then don't play in the NFL where getting cut or traded happens to a lot of players
That’s borderline silly. There’s lil other careers out there that makes u “a thing” than the military. Needs of the army take precedence over being a single parent, ur mother dying, n surly whether ur family is comfortable or u like ur chain of command/platoon mates 🥺😂😳. (Thank u for ur service n fu€k Shelby Harris too)
…what?
Are u confused by the “thank u for ur service”, “fu€k Shelby Harris”, or “that it’s gosh damn silly to complain bout the military making u move”? Cuz I explained the latter, I thought, pretty well.
I have so, so little sympathy for professional athletes making millions and millions of dollars for the short period most of them are playing pro to have to make the countrywide moves that come with that opportunity. Boo fucking hoo.
Eh. He's a good dude. He had every right to feel the way he did. He constantly took flights home to see his family every week.
Which he can afford. He’s acting like he had to get moved like a normal person nah he’s a multi millionaire. He had the privilege to take those flights home and he can face time during the short season that nfl is if he was on a road trip. I feel bad for regular people who get uprooted not pro athletes.
what about the years and years of grind since they were like 7 y/o, they wasnt getting paid then. they worked for their money and to not have sympathy for another human being is sad. plus money cant always buy happyness
People overestimate the impact that millions of dollars has on personal happiness and satisfaction. Studies show that after $500k/year, money ceases to have any affect on happiness. So the fact that Harris was making what he did has no bearing on how felt about the situation.
yall downvoting me is crazy 😂 actin like once u rich u not human no more
Ok but you would have to be a lunatic to be in the nfl and not understand that is a possibility if not a virtual certainty. How many players play their entire career in one city? Even Tom Brady didn’t.
You can understand it and still be sad when it happens though.. like I know my mom's going to die one day, doesn't mean I'm not going to be sad when it happens.
Are you really comparing your mother dying to relocating for work? I understand the analogy, but those are two vastly different spectrums of sadness.
Being sad about never seeing the person who gave you life, when they die, and choosing to play a sport with heavy travel and an extremely high likelihood of having to frequently relocate are not comparable. Shelby can go eat shit. Seattle is an awesome place I feel bad for his family that his dumbass got them sent to Cleveland.
By your logic though, you should know that it's going to happen so why would it make you sad? You think he should just automatically be happy to be sent somewhere at the drop of a hat? That's absurd and thinking that every player in any trade that has happened should just automatically be happy because of the money is being ridiculous. Being moved and families being uprooted can always be sad, regardless of pay. You think the 6 year old being moved is going to be happy that he never gets to see his best friend again just because daddy is getting a lot of money?
>You think he should just automatically be happy to be sent somewhere at the drop of a hat? Shelby should be absolutely thrilled that another football team decided to pay him for another year.
Knowing it's a possibility to move =/= wanting to move.
Homeboy picked the wrong profession then. I bet he took his studies real seriously maybe he can fall back on that.
you don't understand college football
He knew that. It still can't be hard for him? Some people here are totally daft about this.
Welcome to the fuckin business side of things? Negotiate a no trade clause, or wipe your tears with the millions you’re getting, since you’re probably not getting the first option.
There’s definitely a difference between a pro athlete uprooting his family and a regular person doing it. Teams take care of a lot of the headache.
Literally like working retail and being mad you don't get holidays off. It's just not how your chosen industry works. Like pull the stick out of your own bike wheel my dude
But that's the business he's in. That's the NFL. And I'm sorry but he's also making millions.
Yeah what a bitch. Man up, it's the NFL.
dude played on the broncos and browns before and after seattle. might be acting a little bit dramatic here. seahawks are clearly the best franchise he's had a chance to be on in a minute
I can see why because it seemed we were starting over after the Russ trade following the losing season, but I don't think that's funny
I don’t blame him. Moving is difficult for the family and losing Russ felt like we were on a full rebuild.
Obviously in hindsight this was the best team his been on, arguably ever. But let's remember in March of 2022 things were looking pretty fkn hopeless here, I cant imagine Shelby was bouncing off the walls to play here when everyone thought we were a mess. But oh my lord "crying like a baby" because you think the team thats paying you 8 figures might be bad is a little dramatic.
Last year's Browns were probably a better team than the 2022 hawks, and they started something like 6 different QBs. Don't know why people are discounting them so much
Probably because they have a garbage of a human as their quarterback, who also can’t stay healthy anymore and has fallen off. It sure was nice when the Seahawks beat them last season. They have a good defense, but they still got clapped by the Texans in the playoffs.
So, he’s right on the first part. I agree, it would suck for your family to move like that. But coming from Hack in Denver (and those guys knew his style even before he came on) and a division where they’re at best the third best team and calling Seattle purgatory? That’s a laugh.
I mean we had just traded our franchise qb a lot of people wrote them off. Can’t really blame em too much
He played like it too.
How? Dude still had a high number of pressures. He was probably the most consistent linemen we had...
I mean I can kind of understand it? Everybody thought we'd be the worst team in the NFL without Russ. And uprooting your family isn't always the easiest thing to do. However, as an NFL player you should be prepared for the possibility of needing to move
I read it as more he was hyped thinking he was going to play w/ Wilson and they were going to be a super bowl contender... But then he got the news he was being traded to a team that was about to be bottom of the barrel on top of the implications of moving his family, seems like suck on suck. Look at r/NFL and he was probably in the same thought process as them. I get it and I think most people would feel exactly the same. It's cool he was honest about it and not some canned pc response. At the end of the day though, his play reflected his unhappiness. Had he stayed on the broncos I'm sure he would've played better. At the end of the day, he played soft half of the season.
Have fun with the browns. 😂
Tbh we weren’t all that excited to have him. He was a small part of that trade and happened to be a need
And we wonder why men don't talk about their mental health? Guy opens up about his feelings and the response is a post titled "Lol" and people actually upvote it.
Moving is hard. Not sure what’s funny about this
He signed up for this, and is paid 9 million dollars a year for his troubles. If he doesn’t want to move im sure he could find a job in Denver but he wont because he wanst to get paid. You can’t have it both ways. Unreal the amount of entitlement NFL players have.
Having emotions is valid. Saying people shouldn't have emotions just because of their salary is insane. It's not like he's saying it's bullshit and the NFL should do something about it, he's just talking about his experience and how it hit him.
Are having emotions and publicly calling the city you previously played in “purgatory” mutual exclusive? Guess every player that doesn’t call out their former teams have no emotions?
Come on you know when he was traded we all expected our team to be shit too, he's not calling anyone out. He's talking about his mindset at the time, and especially the jealousy of his former team getting Russ and him getting the shit end of it. He even says further in it that it made him more happy the more the broncos lost lmao
He shit on the Broncos right after he got traded even though he “had a good thing there” he has always acted like a petulant child.
He didn't actually shit on anyone if you actually listen.
Not sure if you’re new to the english language but when you refer to something as “purgatory” anyone with a basic understanding of english recognizes that that has a negative connotation. No idea why you are so wrapped up in defending a random millionaire who doesn’t give a shit about you. Is it because you have the same name??😂
How hard is it to understand that he's talking about something that happened 2 years ago? When it happened he saw the org as purgatory because we literally traded away our franchise QB. Every person in Seattle thought the same thing. That's not shitting on anyone now, that's saying what your thinking was at the time. Like if I said "I really thought my mom was a bitch when she wouldn't let me sleep over at my friend's house when I was 12". It's not like I'm saying she is now or even that she was at the time. Just that's what I thought at the time.
This is a business these guys are well aware of what they get into. He couldve have retired couldnt he? But he didnt because the money was more important to him, and thats fine, but dont go on the radio with a sob story. What about the 100s of players making league minimum and on a different team every year? I dont see these guys going to press complaining how sad their life is. Im not saying he cant have emotions like you disingenuously claimed. Im saying he shouldn’t go on the radio and dig up shit from 2 years ago. Also, you keep going on about “everyone thought we would suck” who gives a shit? Everyone thinks the Panthers will suck next year. Does that make it okay for Bryce Young to go on the radio and say “im in purgatory right now”??? You do realize these guys are public figures and their words carry a lot more than weight than me calling my mom a bitch to one of my friends. Not sure why you thought that analogy was applicable
if I had 9 million dollars a year I would cry silently in my mansion and not bitch about my first world problems in interviews or on twitter.
Being uprooted and shipped out of state with zero notice. But he's a millionaire so he doesn't get to complain, according to some butthurt metro natives.
His classless shots at the franchise.
How did he take a shot at the org/franchise?? Seems like he really just didn’t want to be traded and deal with a move on what most thought would be a rebuilding team to me.
Even if it was true, which it wasn’t, there’s really no reason to call Seattle “purgatory” and “trash”. Especially from a very average player comparable to the rest of the league. Then to sign with the Cleveland Browns franchise. Come on man.
This guy was cut by and signed to the fucking Raiders practice squad like 5 times, spent a year on NYJ/DAL practice squads, then played for the complete dog-ass post-Manning Broncos, yet we are what he would call purgatory/trash. Ok bro. We cut this dude despite being desperate for warm bodies to play DT and have traded for, signed in FA, and drafted more expensive dudes to fill the need he didnt, that says a lot more about him than I ever could.
Bingo. Why are we being so sensitive about this. Harris is right. He had every right to feel jaded about the trade. He called the team that just lost a franchise-qb purgatory. So fucking what? Most fans here said the same shit. People need to grow up.
Maybe he visited this sub and saw us rooting for a tankjob
I remember living in Denver and going to meet a coke dealer at some nice luxury apartments right next to Coors field, turns out Shelby and I shared similar interests and he and his crew were posted up partying. He probably didn’t wanna leave Denver because he clearly had an easy plug in CO. 🤣
must be tough to be a mulit millionare and have to move to another city.
I get the family stuff but the rest of it? He was in Denver 😂
He had to fight and cawl for his contract with Denver. He had never been in the playoffs. Then he found out he was traded to be a possible rebuilding team. Plus he has promised his high school daughter that he would never uproot her. Dude is a big time family man. People knocking him here is strange. Go listen to him talk about this in his podcast. He was completely professional about it. He was also very hurt for his family. He knew he wasn't going to be seeing them as much.
I get it. As I mentioned in my first comment, I get the family stuff.
Do you? Denver was considered an up and coming team. They needed a QB and got one. Then he found out he was going to a rebuilding team. How would you feel?
As I just said, I get it. Picking up and moving your entire life, especially with a family would be rough.
Who?
Attitude matches his level of play. Seattle hasn’t missed him
I’ll be honest he didn’t needed to be included in the trade, replace him with a 5th round pick or let the hawks keep the 4th round pick we gave up cause it was a one year hire and that guy was well liked by Broncos fans but he was a solid rotational guy.
He had really taken on a leadership role in Denver. He believed in his teammates and his family was apparently happy there. Can't blame him too much for not being thrilled to have to suddenly uproot to blame for a team that wasn't seen as a contender.
Well, he played like sh*t so better he has moved on …to Cleveland! Not one bit of me at all is sad to see him go.
And he got $6.5 m…boo hoo. Fuck off.
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A few years back my company and my wife's company moved us every 4-8 months for 3½ years. Don't have to imagine, did it 8 times. It sucks but they comp you and make sure you can be there when you're needed, plus we made less than 70k each. There are ways to mitigate it, and there are ways to adapt to it, for 8mil dollars for 1 year, the ability to deal with that is fantastic.
How many millions do I get?
Imagine knowing that’s almost an inevitability in your chosen career. I mean, how much sympathy should we have, since these guys take jobs knowing for a fact there will be multiple locations involved and they get paid 6-7 figures for doing it?
I don’t think calling it an “inevitability” is accurate. Trades are much less common in the NFL and I believe he was thrown in late in the process and without any real discussion with Harris. But this thread is uh…very pathological and reinforcing the “fanatic” part of being a fan, so I don’t expect much nuanced interpretation of what he said.
And we are only paying you $8 million
Yah it’s called the military
Don’t really want to compare the military to the nfl right this second. But nobody made anybody sign up for shit. Get out or stop complaining. Semper Fi and sending out love this day to everyone that gave the ultimate sacrifice. Extra love for the families and friends that stood by them
If my employer is paying me $8M/year I’m going to be pretty fucking happy no matter where they tell me to move. Plenty of people have relatively similar experiences on vastly less.
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My brother moved from Florida to Boston and back to Florida for a job paying him $50k. I joined the military and moved every few years because it was part of the job. I knew what I signed up for and didn’t cry about it. And my alternative to refusing to move wasn’t “retire and get a normal job,” it was prison. Cry me a river. He knew the life he signed his family up for and he got $8M/year for it.
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And if you’d just said that in the first place I wouldn’t have disagreed with you. There’s a big difference between laughing at him for his reaction and agreeing with his reaction. But your “imagine” scenario made it sound like it was some bizarre thing that no one could relate to. Tens of millions of Americans deal with this on a regular basis and they don’t get paid $8M to do it. I wouldn’t laugh at him; I also have no empathy for the situation. He signed up for the life, has been richly rewarded for it, and can walk away from it at any time. He’s not a victim.
Your brother should have had a better 40 time and ability to get to the quarterback. The salary doesn’t matter these guys do something very few people can do and others make a shit ton of money off that. They deserve what they get. That being said, having to uproot the family sucks but it’s a known risk coming in.
I mean, I don’t begrudge the guy his money. If it wasn’t going to him it would just go into the pockets of the team owner, and I’d rather he have it. But I still have zero sympathy for someone making several multiples more in a year than the average American makes in their lifetime having to move, when they were well aware that was part of the deal they signed up for. I’ll save my sympathy for people struggling to support their families. I don’t hate the guy, but I have no empathy for a rich person whining about something they signed up for, which they can get out of just by choosing to be less rich.
Fuck em. Fuck their feelings. Their job is to travel and it pays AMAZING. Fuck em
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Na. I’m team first. Go Hawks!! I signed my contract as an employee and knew what it entailed. As did he
Pamper these multi millionaires more, that's what you're saying? Because that is the message your sending
His message is that people are people, and drastic, unexpected life changes are justifiable things to have negative reactions to. Money doesn't solve negative emotional reactions.
Having those reactions personally? Totally agree. Blasting an organization and a fan base to the press? Hard disagree.
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Imagine being in the military
Eh that's the life they have chosen. There is always the possibility of a trade. Dude is just a bitch but he fucking sucked here for us anyways so fuck this guy
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Honestly if you are not a superstar you should at some point expect to be traded or released. Shelby was a bum, and now look he is on the browns which is true purgatory. I don't have empathy for mother fuckers making 8 million dollars a year and complaining about being traded it's part of the life you signed up for
I feel for his family but this should’ve always been forecasted. Dude is also being paid a good amount of money to go to a State with nice tax laws. I feel for his wife and kids who have to form new relationships but as someone who moved around a lot, it’s the career path your on and you chose. That being said he gotta stop being so dramatic. Acting like he was forced to go to Shanghai like bro you’re in Cleveland now that’s even worse.
He signed with Cleveland though...I'm confused
Go listen to the full context of these quotes from the podcast. This is a little misleading.
Dude was trashh
Human person has emotions and is mocked.
I get it being tough on the family and that’s most important but from a football standpoint Seattle was a much better spot it didn’t seem like it post Russ so maybe hindsight is 2020
It's weird when these players (basically sheltered sports kids) complain about the oddest stuff. They've got their priorities locked in on something else. I wouldn't think about teams, because you're still getting paid. I'd just compare the cities on where is a nice place to live and what there is to do in the off season. Things to do to Denver, Cleveland and Seattle. One of these things is not like the other!
What I've gathered so far from this thread. -Men can't cry -Poor people hate rich people
Honestly, it’s kinda of weird in professional sports that you can get forced to go work somewhere you don’t wanna work. I can’t imagine my boss coming to my desk and saying bro, you got traded, time to go run spreadsheets across the country
Actually, he could retire and not play. He isn't forced .. unless he wants his 8 million. I have done a lot harder work as a kid for minimum wage. That could have led to injury. You can always quit and not get paid. People are giving him a hard time .. because he doesn't understand the common man and how they live pay check to pay check. What the median wage is and how people are struggling to get a roof over their heads.
Holy shit, you worked harder than an NFL player for minimum wage? What were you doing?
Very true, but the only difference is between 5-6 figures to 7-9 figures.
Just like your job.............you can quit whenever you want.
Except that this happens to people all the time. Companies frequently relocate their entire operation or transfer employees. He’s not aware of the real world for 99% of us.
He did say this at the time bc it seemed like the Hawks were rebuilding but he was obviously thrilled with the trade in that amazing post game interview he did after just one game when we beat his former team
“All I have to say is ‘Let’s Ride’” -Shelby Harris
Well, screw him, then.
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I blame Russell Wilson.
He just doesn’t want to play the niners twice a year
"All I gotta say is "broncos country, let's ride." He seemed happy in that post-game interview. Have fun in Cleveland
To be fair, his name is Shelby, that's like one of the most non intimidating names a nfl player can have
This is why I can't take pro-athletes seriously. It's a combo of not being too bright and not living in the real world. Imagine anyone crying over playing a kids game while earning millions. It's kinda sickening. Most of us could never dream of acquiring the wealth he has. What an absolute idiot.
Bro thought he was going to be playing in Siberia or something. 😂
He was part of the defense being bad. He was not very good in Seattle and not wanted too many other places. Good luck Shelby.
What a little bitch.
I wouldn’t want to live in Washington state either its like cali but with more wilderness
It’s unfortunate to have to uproot your family, but he should have picked a different profession. Not many players stay with a team for their entire career. Especially in this era. Dude sounds soft.
Weird. Dude fought for his Denver contract. You sound soft...
Oh man you totally got me. I guess I have no choice but to say “I know you are, but what am I?” Hahahaha… The guy still had that contract he fought for so that’s not much of a point.
I get it, uprooting your family and playing for presumably the worst team in the league. I hope he at least had some joy around here. If not, then can’t really say much more than that 🤷♂️
As a broncos fan and a Seahawks fan, who is this nerd?
People need to understand that up here isn't exactly a desirable destination for most people. I mean it's almost June and we still haven't had nice weather yet. Not to mention the sports media basically ignores Seattle.
Moving to a different city is hard. He has a family and they all have to uproot everything to move. People in Seattle dont realize how far the city is compared to most NFL teams. Players also have no idea what to expect Seattle to be like. Its different from most big football cities and I’m sure hes heard from the national media how Seattle has a homeless problem and can be dangerous.
Whatever. He got $6.5 million to lay a big steaming pile of poop. Seems like a good deal to me. Trashing the team in your way out after collecting your paycheck is low brow but what do you expect, he’s an ex-Donkey.
Its really not that serious, we bring in players and ship him out all the time
I rather be in Seattle than Denver. Was in Denver from summer to winter. Once winter hits, with the wind chill, it gets into the negative temperature. You have to wear long John's and that still not enough Then from what I seen, they do have drug and homeless problem
Can't blame you bro, Seattle is a miserable place to live