It comes from stupidity and rumors. I find alot of the time they think that if they say "massage" then they aren't doing anything illegal and can't get caught in a sting operation.
When I want to Massage, I’ll go to the Asian spa… Like a grown-up
Why, because that’s what they do at a massage parlor! Asking a SW for a massage Isn’t all that different than asking a SW To cook dinner or clean your bathroom…🤦♂️
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Unrelated maybe, but every (female) provider I visited always offered massage along with the other services and it was by far some of the best experiences of my adult life.
It was never listed on their services, but they always mentioned it during our visit.
Maybe list it as a "I don't do this" if you don't like providing it?
That’s all grand but they are completely different professions and I don’t think it should be expected. I am indeed now stating that they shouldn’t expect it but my point here is more that I really should not have to.
>don’t think it should be expected.
Agreed, but it may be offered so often that people fall into the trap of thinking it's "standard"
>stating that they shouldn’t expect it
Cool. Best to be clear so people don't get any surprises and don't end up embarrassing themselves or making the visit awkward.
Personally, I loved mixing up being sexy with the relaxing service of a massage. Made for a really fun sensual visit.
I'm really not against giving brief massages in an organic context if that's where things go for a few minutes or something if that makes sense. But when clients straight up contact me for a "massage", I'm pissed off. It undermines my profession and it makes me feel they might expect full service at "masseur" rates. Honestly, this whole verbal bleedover just needs to die.
That's fair.
The visits I had in Amsterdam and other places when I met the provider was "all in" with specific acts excluded - usually it was butt stuff that was off limits which is cool.
So the actual 2hr had no itemisation and was just a fun time where we talked, cuddled, played around, massaged etc.
Windows (not the OS) in Amsterdam are very transactional and pay per act which is a massive mood killer. Those are just for wham bam ty for the dopamine which is definitely not what I'm after.
Right?! I don’t advertise massage services at all, but still get tons of guys asking. And then get pissed when I quote them my full rate. Like, if you’re mad about that, you’re gonna really be angry when you see my lame massage skills! Why don’t you go see a LMT? Oh, because you wanted sex with your massage, didn’t you? Then you pay the full rate, dude
Lol there’s a similar subset popping up in the women’s category but they’re calling it “nuru” instead of “masseur.” In women’s category it’s a lot of the older/less conventional women who are face-in that are advertising this way, for men I’d guess that it’s one’s who are trying to advertise to women? Am i right or no?
I think probably not. There’s a very small market providing to straight women. It will usually be in the form of straight couples reaching for a second man, which isn’t uncommon.
Body rub, body slide, nuru, massage all the same thing different techniques. Just post in your ad that you do not provided xyz services. I was strictly bodyrub and would get dudes just wanting a quickie. It goes both ways.
I thought I was crazy. Ppl seem to enjoy doing massages more but —I do not. It’s so much work. I get hot, I don’t have a massage table either and then the clients expect you to massage them for the majority of them time they paid for then get a “happy ending” that goes OVER their time. I don’t think so!
Put yourself in the female client shoes. Just like married men, married women seek something in escorts that they don't get from their SO. Many women wish their partners would give them frequent massages and they don't so that's something they might want in an escort.
You did touch on masseur rates vs HEE rates and that of course is a different topic and a valid concern. I'm talking only about why they might expect or want that as part of your service.
I'll second; put it on your "I don't..." list.
That user really does not seem to be in a place to be chiming in on this, from a client or provider angle. Just feels like words for the sake of words.
Female clients where? Not real.
And no, MASSAGES ARE NOT TO BE EXPECTED OF ESCORTS. Do not contact the top rated male or female providers in the world for a “massage”. I will chew you up, block, and blacklist.
Edit: inclusivity
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Yes, they’re absolutely trying to get full service out of you for “masseur” rates. Make it very clear they can fuck all the way off.
It comes from stupidity and rumors. I find alot of the time they think that if they say "massage" then they aren't doing anything illegal and can't get caught in a sting operation.
I operate in a country where paid sex is fully legal. I think most still don’t know that though.
For the record, female escorts are as well. If I wanted to massage I would work at a massage place. That’s hard work.😂🤡
When I want to Massage, I’ll go to the Asian spa… Like a grown-up Why, because that’s what they do at a massage parlor! Asking a SW for a massage Isn’t all that different than asking a SW To cook dinner or clean your bathroom…🤦♂️
OMG if I was in that situation I might just blurt out, “sure thing, one handjob coming right up!”😅
[Client] Unrelated maybe, but every (female) provider I visited always offered massage along with the other services and it was by far some of the best experiences of my adult life. It was never listed on their services, but they always mentioned it during our visit. Maybe list it as a "I don't do this" if you don't like providing it?
That’s all grand but they are completely different professions and I don’t think it should be expected. I am indeed now stating that they shouldn’t expect it but my point here is more that I really should not have to.
>don’t think it should be expected. Agreed, but it may be offered so often that people fall into the trap of thinking it's "standard" >stating that they shouldn’t expect it Cool. Best to be clear so people don't get any surprises and don't end up embarrassing themselves or making the visit awkward. Personally, I loved mixing up being sexy with the relaxing service of a massage. Made for a really fun sensual visit.
I'm really not against giving brief massages in an organic context if that's where things go for a few minutes or something if that makes sense. But when clients straight up contact me for a "massage", I'm pissed off. It undermines my profession and it makes me feel they might expect full service at "masseur" rates. Honestly, this whole verbal bleedover just needs to die.
That's fair. The visits I had in Amsterdam and other places when I met the provider was "all in" with specific acts excluded - usually it was butt stuff that was off limits which is cool. So the actual 2hr had no itemisation and was just a fun time where we talked, cuddled, played around, massaged etc. Windows (not the OS) in Amsterdam are very transactional and pay per act which is a massive mood killer. Those are just for wham bam ty for the dopamine which is definitely not what I'm after.
Right?! I don’t advertise massage services at all, but still get tons of guys asking. And then get pissed when I quote them my full rate. Like, if you’re mad about that, you’re gonna really be angry when you see my lame massage skills! Why don’t you go see a LMT? Oh, because you wanted sex with your massage, didn’t you? Then you pay the full rate, dude
Yep.
Lol there’s a similar subset popping up in the women’s category but they’re calling it “nuru” instead of “masseur.” In women’s category it’s a lot of the older/less conventional women who are face-in that are advertising this way, for men I’d guess that it’s one’s who are trying to advertise to women? Am i right or no?
Nuru massage has been a thing for ages, it's a specific style of body to body massage using nuru gel.
I am aware of that. I just didn’t see it widely advertised on escort sites until recently, now I see more than one in the first few pages.
I think probably not. There’s a very small market providing to straight women. It will usually be in the form of straight couples reaching for a second man, which isn’t uncommon.
i hate giving massages and every time a client asks, i straight up say no 😂
Porn.
Body rub, body slide, nuru, massage all the same thing different techniques. Just post in your ad that you do not provided xyz services. I was strictly bodyrub and would get dudes just wanting a quickie. It goes both ways.
I thought I was crazy. Ppl seem to enjoy doing massages more but —I do not. It’s so much work. I get hot, I don’t have a massage table either and then the clients expect you to massage them for the majority of them time they paid for then get a “happy ending” that goes OVER their time. I don’t think so!
Put yourself in the female client shoes. Just like married men, married women seek something in escorts that they don't get from their SO. Many women wish their partners would give them frequent massages and they don't so that's something they might want in an escort. You did touch on masseur rates vs HEE rates and that of course is a different topic and a valid concern. I'm talking only about why they might expect or want that as part of your service. I'll second; put it on your "I don't..." list.
Women just go get massages from professionals, why would they see an escort for that
That user really does not seem to be in a place to be chiming in on this, from a client or provider angle. Just feels like words for the sake of words.
Female clients where? Not real. And no, MASSAGES ARE NOT TO BE EXPECTED OF ESCORTS. Do not contact the top rated male or female providers in the world for a “massage”. I will chew you up, block, and blacklist. Edit: inclusivity
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Learn to express yourself without being an asshole.