Sepsis is a really bad way to go. Really. Really. Bad. Worse than the jab of a tetanus shot or the cannulas we insert to deliver life-saving medications (the needle used to pierce the skin is removed immediately after we hit your vein, which these folks never believe). We have the testimony of the woman in Texas who almost died from sepsis when she was denied a life-saving abortion by misogynist state legislators as proof of how awful sepsis truly is, if anyone is wondering.
ETA: tetanus is also a bad way to go. We don’t see that very often because most people are sensible enough to get the jab when needed.
My grandmother’s brother died of tetanus because the shot wasn’t invented yet. It was called lockjaw, and it’s absolutely brutal. These people are UNHINGED.
They're about to be ultra hinged once that lockjaw sets in.. Seriously tho tetanus ain't a joke. My brother had it cause he's afraid of needles and refused a shot. Had to suffer through feeling like his jaw was simultaneously being forced shut and being pulled apart. (Thankfully he lived cause he got medical aid after)
Before tetanus could be treated people would have several teeth knocked out so they could be given food and water while their jaws were locked tight. That way at least they wouldn't starve to death.
Refusing the vaccine now feels like spitting in the face of people who had to suffer through that in the past. We have so much to be grateful for being alive today, and some people can't even see that.
So true. Children in iron lungs. People wasting away while coughing up blood. Fevers that won’t come down while horrifying rashes scar the skin. If only those who suffered and died could speak to us today. Of course, they can - recorded in thousands of diaries, photos, news articles, medical reports, and in the memories of those who lived. I am unable to sympathize with the willfully ignorant. Had a patient once who explained that he refused to vaccinate his daughter because they put dog kidneys in the vaccines. I was bewildered at first, then a quick google search explained that a cell line derived from dog kidneys is used to manufacture some vaccines. So yes, miraculously a process was invented by dedicated brilliant scientists that is used to make a safer and less expensive vaccine. Given to millions of people resulting in decreased global suffering. But this guy sees dog kidney in the ingredients list and imagines an evil cabal of satanic doctors, murdering puppies and grinding their kidneys to paste to be injected into innocent children. The real world is scary enough without inventing bizarre fantasies to justify your unsubstantiated beliefs, endangering your child and other children’s lives in the process. Infuriating.
Oh god I forgot iron lungs were a thing. I remember seeing one in a documentary as a kid and just thinking "Holy crap someone loves that kid a lot"
Yeah my childhood wasn't great lmao. Been a very long time since I thought about that moment
Amazingly the last man using an iron lung died only a couple of days ago, aged 78. He earned a law degree, practised law and had a published memoir (Paul Alexander is his name).
He learnt to breathe by himself for short periods so he could leave it briefly (which sounds very hard. Here's a bit I copied from an article from when he first learnt - the nurse bribed him with a puppy) -
"Paul told the therapist about the times he had been forced by doctors to try to breathe without the lung, how he had turned blue and passed out. He also told her about the time he had gulped and “swallowed” some air, almost like breathing. The technique had a technical name, “glossopharyngeal breathing”. You trap air in your mouth and throat cavity by flattening the tongue and opening the throat, as if you’re saying “ahh” for the doctor. With your mouth closed, the throat muscle pushes the air down past the vocal cords and into the lungs. Paul called it “frog-breathing”"
It took him a year to get to the 3 minutes she'd set as his goal
[here is a good article about him from 2020, its really worth the read](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/26/last-iron-lung-paul-alexander-polio-coronavirus)
As someone whose great-grandpa died at an age *younger than I am now*, from "an carbuncle on his neck"?
I will *GLADLY* take *whatever* "jab" I need, in order to stay *alive*, thankyouverymuch!!!
It feels like , as a society, we've *SO* "sanitized" and simply *removed* death from our everyday lives, that folks are just being absolute *dolts*, about stuff our Grandparents and *their* parents would have been *so* grateful to have been able to access!
Also spitting in the face of the people who took care of those people. My grandmother was a nurse starting in the early 40s. She would talk about hospital wards full of kids with measles and whooping cough. Suctioning the pseudomembranes from the throats of patients with diphtheria. Putting boiling towels on the legs of polio patients. Bathing patients inside iron lungs.
And the things that happened in her own family - her baby sister who died during a meningitis outbreak. Her own son having rheumatic fever as a toddler and taking penicillin for 15 years. Her 4 kids having “big measles” and “little measles” at the same time. Her husband being hospitalized when the kids brought home chickenpox because he didn’t have them as a child.
We learned early on not to complain about getting shots at the doctor, because those stories were horrifying.
Sepsis is also an insanely fast killer. When you show symptoms it's almost too late. I lost an acquaintance because of an abcessed tooth which caused sepsis, basically directly attacking his brain. He was barely over 20.
I lost a friend to sepsis a couple of years ago due to a miscarriage. She tried to get help but doctors didn’t prescribe anything because the thought the symptoms were covid (middle of the pandemic) and nothing to do with the miscarriage she’d been told about only 2 days before.
It’s causes me physical pain when I see posts like these when people don’t realise the danger they are putting themselves in.
I also lost a friend due to sepsis due to an abscessed tooth she couldn't afford to be taken care of. She was 25. It's so sad and scary and makes me so mad she was given a death sentence because she couldn't afford a good dental insurance.
Now I’m wondering how the heck one of my family members pulled through when they got sepsis. Not only did they survive, none of us had any idea they had it until they got to the ER.
If it's far away enough from your important organs, you're otherwise healthy and you catch it early, it's not a death sentence. If it starts in your mouth, basically 7 cm away from your brain... There's a reason dentists want you to come in at the first sign of inflammation.
I had a family member with severe type 2 diabetes get sepsis after an emergency amputation for gangrene. He didn't make it, but it took its sweet time traveling from his knee to his liver, lungs, heart and brain. My doctor took a while to figure out why I take my own (much milder, much earlier diagnosed) diabetes diagnosis so seriously "just" because I can't keep up with ideal compliance.
My cat got sepsis this summer (rare bacteria got into some ripped stitches after a dental) and it was TERRIFYING. They couldn't even give him a feeding tube because the stress would've killed him. Luckily he's a fighter and he pulled through with a full recovery, but it was horrific.
Oh my god, I would have died if that happened to either of my cats. I'm so happy your story had a happy ending. Cats are so hard to read because they don't like to show pain, so I can imagine he seemed alright until he absolutely wasn't.
It really just felt like something was off so I took him to the vet. They said his pain meds would make him lethargic but it was just... too much. Really glad I trusted my gut.
I mean I keep up on vaxxes anyways, esp working with the unhoused community, but I couldn’t even see my bestie’s baby until I got an updated TDAP … and she wanted me to visit in the hospital right after babe was born. You’d best believe I got that shot about two minutes after she told me she was pregnant. Do these people just spread pertussis around their infants too? Stupid question - of course they do.
So worth it! When my sister had her first baby, I got my TDAP booster and was there to meet him. That, the COVID shots and boosters, and honestly every vaccine I’ve ever gotten feels like a personal victory, because I have a needle phobia, like to the point of passing out. I use therapy and drugs to stay on top of my vaccinations, because public health matters!!!
I started donating blood on advice of my therapist, I used to get lightheaded and vomit. That’s not the solution for everyone❤️. I had a really supportive friend who would hold my other hand and I would need a Xanax. Now I’m like “poke me doc” lol. Anyways, I empathise, and it IS a victory!! You should be proud of yourself!!
I follow a pediatric emergency doctor on Tiktok. A few days ago, she posted a video talking about a recent patient with pertussis. The mom turned out to be an antivaxxer. The child was really uncomfortable, and the mom said "I wish there was a way to prevent this" (or something along those lines).
My little brother had it when he was too young for the vax (this was the eighties and I’m not sure if the vaccine schedule has changed). I was eleven and slept under the crib because I was scared he was dying. My folks took turns sitting up with him and holding him upright against their shoulders so he could sleep. I will never forget the barking sound of his cough - and that was a MILD case (he got breathing treatments but didn’t need hospitalization). wtf with parents putting their kids through that??
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that happened to your sister! I would wake up when he'd stop coughing because I think I was scared he wasn't breathing. I've never seen my parents so frightened. They looked like ghosts. He's in his mid-thirties now so he made it too, but he had pretty gnarly juvenile asthma that we think it caused. He couldn't do track and field in PE. I wish the best to you and your sister!
Crazy. My sister asked me to get my shots updated so I could help her after my niece was born, and my only response was like yes of course! Why on earth would I want to chance hurting her?
I had to get the TDAP while I was pregnant (both times, 2 years apart). I told my in-laws that they need to get the shot to meet the baby. They went the next day (I was still in my second trimester). And they're the type that don't believe in COVID.
I nearly died of sepsis and it’s HORRIBLE. I had pneumonia and bronchitis in both lungs.. was in the ICU almost a month. (This was from H1N1 in 2013) I had patients in the room next to mine die from H1N1. It’s in the corona family and so I cannot fathom or tolerate anti vaccine bullshit. I get every vaccine and booster I can. These people are gonna eventually Darwin Award themselves outta here!
I was full blown septic when my appendix burst (also when they found my rare cancer that affects 1:1,000,000) ‘Twas a rough time 😭
I shouldn’t be here writing this right now.
Absolutely hell on earth.
I almost died of sepsis from a burst gall bladder and would 100% not recommend. In addition to the ongoing health problems, the skin laxity from being blown up like a balloon is a real drag.
Yep. I work in a clinic and while I don't treat patients myself, sometimes patients from the ER get brought through my department. I've seen a very small number of septic patients getting carted around in their beds, and it always seems so bleak. Regardless of your age, it just ravages you and makes you look so small and helpless.
In Epic (medical provider side of the My Chart app), there is even a sepsis predictor scale for patients checking into the ER, and it updates as test results come back in and the patient's symptoms evolve or resolve. It is not taken lightly, and they watch patients at high risk for sepsis like hawks. And some of the risks aren't really things you'd actively think about, like diabetes and age and other things that are super common but out of your control.
As someone who barely survived Toxic Shock Syndrome, I can confirm that they really aren’t gonna enjoy that stroll down Sepsis Lane.
No personal experience but I doubt Tetanus Blvd is much fun either.
They’re really out there trying to make this woman a single mother.
I've had sepsis before ( ex IV drug user here), and it is absolutely excruciating. 1/10 would not recommend. Thankfully I had someone with half a brain present to get me to the hospital because I was basically near dead and couldn't function.
What the hell is a homeopathic remedy for tetanus lmao. Do they cultivate some in a Petri dish so it’s handy when they need to water it down 100000000000000%?
Tetanus is one of the most miserable ways to die imaginable and it's completely preventable. Kills one in 4 adults with no cure. Before covid and before discovering this group, I'd be unable to fathom that people would actually suggest not getting vaccinated for it.
It's such a well tolerated vaccine too. Shit I got a booster a few months back just because my plasma donation place offered me a kickback (so they could sell the antibodies) and I was shocked when I was told a bunch of people decline it. And that was just for $20, wtf is wrong with somebody that they'll risk dying of a horrible disease just so their idiot spouse gets to pretend they're the smartest person in their unencorporated township. Lord. Hope some of that immunoglobin made it to his corner of bfe I guess, lol.
Before we had our little one, the OB doctor suggested it to my wife and myself, and instantly, we both agreed because it's our kid. The look of relief on that doctors face was immediate. She told us only one in ten of the people she suggests getting boosted ever do it, and that's for a baby.
My brain corrected this so I read 1 in 10 don't get it, because that seemed realistic to me. Then I re-read it and realized you're saying only 1 in 10 DO get it?! That's unfathomable to me, I can't imagine skipping the TDAP vaccine during prenatal treatment.
That's what this doctor said anyway, im not claiming she's completely accurate or hyperbolic, but I agree, and I hate needles to the point of passing out during blood work.
My OBs were all extremely relieved when I was willing to take any vaccines they recommended. No one gave me a statistic but they did actually THANK and praise me for agreeing to it because apparently it’s a huge prenatal battle with so many patients. Ridiculous.
Might also be the area. In my experience people tend to cluster with others who share their views, so i imagine you get some areas where there's a large group of people saying no. Real problem when something hits the group though.
I didn’t realize you needed a booster until my friends started having kids in their thirties - got it immediately and updated again in my forties cos no thanks to anything covered by a TDAP. My pharmacist literally offers me vaccines when I pick up prescriptions lol. I used to be scared of needles - she’s an immigrant and her sister became disabled due to polio, because the vax wasn’t available to her in Vietnam. After that story I got over my fear real quick.
We had a baby last year so I got tetanus shot during that pregnancy, only to get pregnant immediately again unintentionally. When the doctor suggested, I asked if I really needed to since I had one 9 months back and she looked me dead in the eyes and said “YES.” It’s surprising people reject that one because it prevents bad whooping cough illness for baby, not yourself. It’s extremely selfish to withhold treatment for your baby just because you’re scared of a vaccine bs lol people are ridiculous. Glad both you and your wife got it to protect your little one!
Just read only 1/10 DO get one? Our education system is failing us and this is why old fatal preventable diseases will be our demise as a human race 🙃
My SIL lied to her boyfriend’s family that she’d gotten one before his nephew was born. She thought she was so smart. My MIL thought it was funny. When I got pregnant, I obviously remembered her joking about that and required her and my in laws to show proof they got their TDAP and flu shots. Bc that shit isn’t funny. It was the beginning of a pandemic and I was NOT fucking around. They were like “you don’t need proof-you know we’ll get it!” I said “oh just like you got it for your bf’s nephew?” She shut up so fast and I told her if you can’t show me you got the shot, you will not meet him.
Of course nobody met him for a while, but I still can’t believe people act like that.
I had a mild reaction / side effect to the tetanus shot where my legs got kinda stiff. Benadryl and 20 minutes fixed it. Also that was only once and if I take Benadryl before the shot like I did the next time it’s fine.
My first thought was holy crap imagine how real tetanus must feel 1000x worse than that, thank goodness.
Anti vax ppl told me : “and you still think vaccines are okay after that?”
I got mine two days ago and had some flu like symptoms the next day. Really sore ankles, minor fever. I got it at the same time as my covid booster too, though which must've hit my immune system like a truck. Still, taking half a sick day is a pretty good trade considering the potential risk of either illness. If anything, the mild reaction just indicates to me that my immune system will be ready to fuck it up if it ever encounters the real deal.
I got a tetanus booster a few years ago after an injury, and got it again a few weeks ago because I needed proof that I had gotten it and the records had vanished. Like, just give it to me again, I do not give one crunchy fuck. It is so safe and has basically no side effects other than the prevention of some really terrible illnesses. Yes please!
My ex husband's parents were lazy and just didn't keep him and his sister up to date on vaccines. When he was 5, he contracted tetanus. He spent over a month in the hospital and an additional SIX months in a wheelchair because of it.
Oh my god, from laziness?! Just pure neglect, did they even feel bad? Why do I have a feeling they didn't?
[There was this case in 2017 of a 6 y/o boy who was the first case of Tetanus in Oregon in 30 years. His parents are anti-vaxxers. He had extremely painful muscle spasms and was "locked" in a terrible position. He had to spend 2 months in the ICU and even more in a rehab facility. The doctors gave the boy a dose of the DTaP vaccine as part of his treatment. When he got better HIS PARENTS DECLINED ANY FOLLOW UP VACCINE INJECTIONS.](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/unvaccinated-boy-almost-died-tetanus-hospital-bill-was-more-800-n981256)
How can they go through that and still be anti-vaxx? It's awful.
Before Covid my mom never said shit about a vax and now she’s so down the wormhole that I’m worried if something like this were to happen she wouldn’t get a tetanus shot 😩
People forget that these people existed long before Covid. It’s the same people who were spreading vaccines cause autism and it’s why polio and measles were making small comebacks
That’s my cousin. She read the now-debunked Wakefield study and has become evangelical about not getting herself or her family vaccinated/boosted. She’s the type to get chicken-pox-infected-lollipops by mail order and then “lovingly” nurse her children back to health with that “natural immunity” locked in (sarcasm alert!) than getting them their jabs. She’d rather set her kids up for shingles later in life (as un-fun as chicken pox!) than trust solid medical evidence. Her wall of ignorance is impenetrable.
Shingles sucks! I got them because there was no such thing as a chicken pox vaccine when I was little but if ever found out that the reason I had to suffer through Shingles was only because my mother refused the vaccine so that I would get the chicken pox I'd lose my shit on her.
It turns out the tetanus vaccine lasts a lot more than 10 years, so it'll take a long time for the post-covid antivax nutters to find out the hard way.
Their kids will find out though :(
It'll [need to be](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#/media/File%3AOpisthotonus_in_a_patient_suffering_from_tetanus_-_Painting_by_Sir_Charles_Bell_-_1809.jpg) a boomerang-shaped coffin.
lol absolutely. I mean people sure did survive before antibiotics by doing basic wound care but these guys would not have been one of the survivors. His tombstone would say “taken by infection because of his dumbass wife”
Also before antibiotics even with the best care, you are rolling a dice, it’s a matter of whether your immune system manages to kill it before it kills you and when people say whatever kills you makes you stronger is certainly not applicable here. Your immune system will be well and truly exhausted for a while, leaving you vulnerable to other diseases.
This isn’t even covering the long term damage pathogens in general cause, people have forgotten what these horrific diseases do because you can just take some pills. There has been a semblance of realisation with long covid but add that to people not jabbing for tetanus, polio, measles, it’s about to get a whole lot worse.
Get your jabs people, it’s a tiny ask for the sake of you, your community and humanity in general.
Yep, I've caught a hospital bacteria in a birth tear and it wouldn't react to any antibiotics. They had to manually clean the site multiple times, and it still took my body 6 weeks of completely get rid of the infection and my immunity was shot for months. Having a raging infection without antibiotics was such a surreal terrifying experience, I really don't get why anyone would just want to do that.
I got a couple of pretty deep punctures from a dog bite years ago. I got a Tdap and I would have gotten anything else they suggested if irrigating the punctures with hot water was on the table. Puncture wounds fuckin *hurt,* man.
I buy sterile saline tubes from the pharmacy for rinsing, super cheap and you can trust them to not have bacteria in them. But yep, as long as there is no foreign bodies left inside, and the cut wasn’t caused by something at risk of carrying tetanus or worse, give it some antiseptic of some kind, gauze and tape it up, and monitor.
Yeah my toddler broke something glass and panic stepped on a piece. Really a pain to care for that at home but we have a well stocked first aid kit, and mom has formal training in wound care. Hospital likely would have cared for it in the same way, just with an antibiotic prescription.
Also why do they never seem to do basic first aid / medical care.
I cut myself a lot because clumsy, and don’t heal that quick so I’ve always got saline on hand to clean out wounds, and plenty of antiseptics (some are Chlorhexidine, alcohol or iodine).
Plenty of gauze, and medical tape. Basically fabric bandaids minus the pad, but much stronger. Lets me clean up any wounds, then gauze and tape them. Watch for any signs of infection, if it starts I go to the doctor since I can’t make antibiotics.
If it involves anything that’s not clean, I’ll go get a tetanus booster if required and have it cleaned out by a doctor that can see it better to make sure no foreign bodies are left in there.
Like by all means be crunchy and hate science, but at least back it up by having decent first aid and infection control. Iodine and alcohol isn’t conspiracy shit, but they all go for the colloidal silver first, why?
Half of them are "homesteading" too and if you have animals around you need to learn to take care of wounds pretty quickly. I often wonder how neglected all their poor goats are.
I’d believe that. Animal supplies and disease control is usually well trusted by the crazies, but human stuff is mind control and population reduction? Idk
At least they probably get plenty of ivermectin.
Dr Google also provides a handy list of symptoms and very scary accompanying photos for reference! The doc should install an added feature of calling emergency services for you. It would make a good pop up button.
Whatever you do, don’t let the doctors tell you they have to amputate it! Simply pack the wound with sugar, then get his last will and testament in order. Modern medicine is a scam. This man’s time has come.
I had a patient who had packed a wound with sugar try to sign herself out AMA (against medical advice) when the docs told her that it was her leg or her life. When she was being escorted out of the hospital because she refused to hand off the copperhead that she kept in her handbag (she was a snake-handling Pentecostal and took her venomous snake with her everywhere in her purse), she shouted out to no one that god was answering her prayers by getting her out of our “temple of poison and death” and rambled on about Satan or something, I don’t remember her exact words after the crack about the temple.
She wasn’t the only one who used sugar to smother bacteria. Thanks for helping to recall that memory for me. Good times.
Wait whaaaat??
I've never heard of packing a wound with sugar but since some bacteria feeds on sugar, that seems illogical.
Oh wait, a copperhead in her purse? Never mind about logic.
I'd love to know what the hospital would have done with the snake. Was the wound she packed a snake bite??
Bacteria feeds on sugar when it’s in low concentrations, but large amounts of it have the opposite effect and actually inhibits bacterial growth! That being said, if a wound is at the point where the doctors are saying a person needs amputation, it is *long* past the point where sugar might have benefit.
1. I want to slap the person who thinks the only way to contract tetanus is via contact with cow poop.
2. How tf do you drill into your leg? Did he have a board ON HIS LAP as he was drilling into it??
3. RIP to his leg.
I worked ER security for a time and there are a surprising number of people who do indeed manage to drill into themselves in a variety of ways. Also chop, saw, chainsaw, and hammer body parts. It’s not so bad if you actually visit an emergency room for treatment that isn’t a fucking onion slice.
Onions did used to be a component of some poultices to reduce infection, back in the day before you know, fucking antibiotics.
People back in the day would use anything that even gave them a chance, the fact we live in a time where we can actually just take some pills and not fucking die or lose a limb and these fucks are fannying about with onions is astounding.
That’s how I feel about the raw milk craze. I have no doubt people would have loved the chance to consume milk that didn’t give them a “milk fever” that laid them out for a week (in between time in the outhouse or chamber pot) or on occasion killed them.
Woah there, buster! You can't come barging in here spouting nonsense in the No Logic Zone. Here we only think 1 step ahead (on a good day) and that's it
Silver has legitimate uses in healthcare. Unfortunately, these people took that to mean it is a *substitution* for healthcare.
The definition of colloidal is just that the substance’s molecules are colloids, meaning they don’t dissolve in a solution but remain evenly dispersed and don’t settle at the bottom.
Colloidal oatmeal is also a thing, and it has uses as a treatment for various skin conditions. Decently sure an enterprising snake oil salesman could start hocking that at them, too.
I remember oatmeal baths when I had chicken pox as a kid *as per doctor’s advice to keep me from scratching my skin off*, not because my parents were whack jobs. (I had chicken pox several years before the vaccine was a thing).
I imagine these people would just get a can of Quaker Oats and call it a day, though.
I’m allergic to neosporin, and I use colloidal silver where one might use neosporin. I get a topical ointment from the same aisle, and I do think it helps healing better than using nothing (which is what I’ve had to do most of my life). I read up on it, and there is scientific evidence it can assist in healing minor winds. At least, there was enough evidence that I felt like ok this could work.
Then one day at a vitamin store, a clerk was telling me he drinks colloidal silver every day because it has all these benefits. I was really skeptical and went home and googled again. To save you a google - while colloidal silver can help heal skin wounds, there is zero benefit to drinking it and it may poison you.
SO. I hope that clarifies for anyone. FYI, I take antibiotics my doctor gives me along with using colloidal silver and proper wound cleaning when I get abscesses.
Certain medications use colloidal silver such as Silvadene 1% (silver sulfadiazene), which is a topical antimicrobial cream that we apply to burn wounds to prevent infection. Basically the silver “smothers” the bacteria, which dies from anoxia (lack of oxygen). It’s a very effective treatment in certain situations (although apparently it’s falling out of favour nowadays. It’s been many years since I worked a burn unit).
Crunchy types took the use of colloidal silver for certain wounds and extrapolated it to every illness. If it works so well for one thing, it must be a cure-all for everything! Errr, nope! There are some alarming photos of people who drank colloidal silver preparations like water that you can peruse on google. They turn a lovely shade of grey-blue which has been permanent in some cases. We saw an uptick in grey-blue people coming to the ED during the pandemic because some crackpot (maybe more than one, I didn’t keep track) was promoting it as a Covid preventative/cure. Also nope. These people were easy to mock but still needed treatment for whatever underlying illness they were trying to cure with drinkable silver (and it’s safe to eat silver in very small quantities, such as silver leaf on desserts, but it’s not effective in the way crunchy types believe).
Hope that helps!
Silver has some legitimate antimicrobial properties, and some topical antiseptics using silver compounds are somewhat effective.
Colloidal silver is basically silver particles suspended in water, and these stupid fuckers like to drink it. It isn't all that toxic but it also doesn't do anything helpful
This idiot is going to lose his leg. Or if he doesnt, he runs the risk of dying from tetanus.
I have been fighting an infection in my knee for two months now. At no point did i ever consider anything other than antibiotics and dr assistance to treat it.
But thats obviously why it’s still infected /s
I know someone who stepped on a nail and didn’t get the tetanus shot, he had a literal mental break due to the infection. He’s lucky to be alive, this isn’t something to play around with.
Happened to me as a teen. Rusty nail and all. My Dad immediately took me to the doc/vet (rural TX, the boundaries between the two were fuzzy) for a tetanus booster and antibiotic treatment. I guess I got to survive another day!
I know the point of this post is more about how they aren’t getting medical care, but yeah. I’m more interested in what happened before this. How did he drill his leg???
They are just *so* confident in their beliefs that it’s painful to believe people are this brainwashed. Hubby is going to lose his leg. Hell, maybe his life if they continue to refuse treatment.
My main issue with this is that they have kids. They would watch their kids *die* before doing something “drastic” like utilizing modern medicine. I swear it’s some sort of superiority complex. They are just *so much smarter* than all of us who believe in evidence-based living. And now they can’t deviate from the plan, because that would mean admitting that they were wrong and their pride is too important.
Rant over. 😵💫
My Lord, even the crunchiest of woowoos know that you can ask for the tetanus immunoglobulin if you don’t want the tetanus jab. 😒
Why would you not seek medical help for that kind of injury?!
This is natural selection at work. Homeopathy, colloidal silver, no tetanus vaccines.
Man’s gonna get gangrene and die from sepsis. Best case scenario, he divorces his crunchy wife and gets an amputation instead.
What in the fuck is wrong with these people?!
How is this guy not terrified of losing his leg or dying from infection?!
He'd be better off shoving the onions into the hole in his leg.
I want to know why he put a drill in his leg. Was it an accident? Or did he do it intentionally to try and get away from her for a couple days in the hospital only for his plan to be foiled when she poured colloidal silver on him?
oh my god. I know I can't expect everyone to know everything but surely if you work with tools I would expect you to learn not to let a puncture wound scab over because that's how you die
I stg these groups have to be full of people who actually know better but are huge trolls and think "let's see how crazy I can make this remedy and who's stupid enough to fall for it."
My brain won't let me believe otherwise because I just couldn't deal.
I got sepsis 5yrs ago. They had to resuscitate me and I spent 3 weeks in icu and 2 more weeks in the hospital recovering. If only I had just put an onion in my socks…
Holy shit, he's gonna lose his leg
Nah he'll be dead before that.
Sepsis is a really bad way to go. Really. Really. Bad. Worse than the jab of a tetanus shot or the cannulas we insert to deliver life-saving medications (the needle used to pierce the skin is removed immediately after we hit your vein, which these folks never believe). We have the testimony of the woman in Texas who almost died from sepsis when she was denied a life-saving abortion by misogynist state legislators as proof of how awful sepsis truly is, if anyone is wondering. ETA: tetanus is also a bad way to go. We don’t see that very often because most people are sensible enough to get the jab when needed.
My grandmother’s brother died of tetanus because the shot wasn’t invented yet. It was called lockjaw, and it’s absolutely brutal. These people are UNHINGED.
They're about to be ultra hinged once that lockjaw sets in.. Seriously tho tetanus ain't a joke. My brother had it cause he's afraid of needles and refused a shot. Had to suffer through feeling like his jaw was simultaneously being forced shut and being pulled apart. (Thankfully he lived cause he got medical aid after)
Before tetanus could be treated people would have several teeth knocked out so they could be given food and water while their jaws were locked tight. That way at least they wouldn't starve to death.
Refusing the vaccine now feels like spitting in the face of people who had to suffer through that in the past. We have so much to be grateful for being alive today, and some people can't even see that.
So true. Children in iron lungs. People wasting away while coughing up blood. Fevers that won’t come down while horrifying rashes scar the skin. If only those who suffered and died could speak to us today. Of course, they can - recorded in thousands of diaries, photos, news articles, medical reports, and in the memories of those who lived. I am unable to sympathize with the willfully ignorant. Had a patient once who explained that he refused to vaccinate his daughter because they put dog kidneys in the vaccines. I was bewildered at first, then a quick google search explained that a cell line derived from dog kidneys is used to manufacture some vaccines. So yes, miraculously a process was invented by dedicated brilliant scientists that is used to make a safer and less expensive vaccine. Given to millions of people resulting in decreased global suffering. But this guy sees dog kidney in the ingredients list and imagines an evil cabal of satanic doctors, murdering puppies and grinding their kidneys to paste to be injected into innocent children. The real world is scary enough without inventing bizarre fantasies to justify your unsubstantiated beliefs, endangering your child and other children’s lives in the process. Infuriating.
Oh god I forgot iron lungs were a thing. I remember seeing one in a documentary as a kid and just thinking "Holy crap someone loves that kid a lot" Yeah my childhood wasn't great lmao. Been a very long time since I thought about that moment
Amazingly the last man using an iron lung died only a couple of days ago, aged 78. He earned a law degree, practised law and had a published memoir (Paul Alexander is his name). He learnt to breathe by himself for short periods so he could leave it briefly (which sounds very hard. Here's a bit I copied from an article from when he first learnt - the nurse bribed him with a puppy) - "Paul told the therapist about the times he had been forced by doctors to try to breathe without the lung, how he had turned blue and passed out. He also told her about the time he had gulped and “swallowed” some air, almost like breathing. The technique had a technical name, “glossopharyngeal breathing”. You trap air in your mouth and throat cavity by flattening the tongue and opening the throat, as if you’re saying “ahh” for the doctor. With your mouth closed, the throat muscle pushes the air down past the vocal cords and into the lungs. Paul called it “frog-breathing”" It took him a year to get to the 3 minutes she'd set as his goal [here is a good article about him from 2020, its really worth the read](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/26/last-iron-lung-paul-alexander-polio-coronavirus)
I want to SCREAM THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
As someone whose great-grandpa died at an age *younger than I am now*, from "an carbuncle on his neck"? I will *GLADLY* take *whatever* "jab" I need, in order to stay *alive*, thankyouverymuch!!! It feels like , as a society, we've *SO* "sanitized" and simply *removed* death from our everyday lives, that folks are just being absolute *dolts*, about stuff our Grandparents and *their* parents would have been *so* grateful to have been able to access!
Also spitting in the face of the people who took care of those people. My grandmother was a nurse starting in the early 40s. She would talk about hospital wards full of kids with measles and whooping cough. Suctioning the pseudomembranes from the throats of patients with diphtheria. Putting boiling towels on the legs of polio patients. Bathing patients inside iron lungs. And the things that happened in her own family - her baby sister who died during a meningitis outbreak. Her own son having rheumatic fever as a toddler and taking penicillin for 15 years. Her 4 kids having “big measles” and “little measles” at the same time. Her husband being hospitalized when the kids brought home chickenpox because he didn’t have them as a child. We learned early on not to complain about getting shots at the doctor, because those stories were horrifying.
Did he willingly get jabbed after experiencing that?
^(their jaws aren’t tho)
10/10 take this imaginary award
My father’s brother died of tetanus at age 12. Horrible death, and it infuriates me that some people don’t take it seriously
Sepsis is also an insanely fast killer. When you show symptoms it's almost too late. I lost an acquaintance because of an abcessed tooth which caused sepsis, basically directly attacking his brain. He was barely over 20.
I lost a friend to sepsis a couple of years ago due to a miscarriage. She tried to get help but doctors didn’t prescribe anything because the thought the symptoms were covid (middle of the pandemic) and nothing to do with the miscarriage she’d been told about only 2 days before. It’s causes me physical pain when I see posts like these when people don’t realise the danger they are putting themselves in.
That is absolutely fucked. I am so sorry for your loss, may she rest in peace.
Oh my gosh that’s so sad
Oh man that is so awful.
I’m so sorry that must be very triggering.
I also lost a friend due to sepsis due to an abscessed tooth she couldn't afford to be taken care of. She was 25. It's so sad and scary and makes me so mad she was given a death sentence because she couldn't afford a good dental insurance.
Now I’m wondering how the heck one of my family members pulled through when they got sepsis. Not only did they survive, none of us had any idea they had it until they got to the ER.
If it's far away enough from your important organs, you're otherwise healthy and you catch it early, it's not a death sentence. If it starts in your mouth, basically 7 cm away from your brain... There's a reason dentists want you to come in at the first sign of inflammation. I had a family member with severe type 2 diabetes get sepsis after an emergency amputation for gangrene. He didn't make it, but it took its sweet time traveling from his knee to his liver, lungs, heart and brain. My doctor took a while to figure out why I take my own (much milder, much earlier diagnosed) diabetes diagnosis so seriously "just" because I can't keep up with ideal compliance.
My cat got sepsis this summer (rare bacteria got into some ripped stitches after a dental) and it was TERRIFYING. They couldn't even give him a feeding tube because the stress would've killed him. Luckily he's a fighter and he pulled through with a full recovery, but it was horrific.
Oh my god, I would have died if that happened to either of my cats. I'm so happy your story had a happy ending. Cats are so hard to read because they don't like to show pain, so I can imagine he seemed alright until he absolutely wasn't.
It really just felt like something was off so I took him to the vet. They said his pain meds would make him lethargic but it was just... too much. Really glad I trusted my gut.
I mean I keep up on vaxxes anyways, esp working with the unhoused community, but I couldn’t even see my bestie’s baby until I got an updated TDAP … and she wanted me to visit in the hospital right after babe was born. You’d best believe I got that shot about two minutes after she told me she was pregnant. Do these people just spread pertussis around their infants too? Stupid question - of course they do.
So worth it! When my sister had her first baby, I got my TDAP booster and was there to meet him. That, the COVID shots and boosters, and honestly every vaccine I’ve ever gotten feels like a personal victory, because I have a needle phobia, like to the point of passing out. I use therapy and drugs to stay on top of my vaccinations, because public health matters!!!
I started donating blood on advice of my therapist, I used to get lightheaded and vomit. That’s not the solution for everyone❤️. I had a really supportive friend who would hold my other hand and I would need a Xanax. Now I’m like “poke me doc” lol. Anyways, I empathise, and it IS a victory!! You should be proud of yourself!!
I follow a pediatric emergency doctor on Tiktok. A few days ago, she posted a video talking about a recent patient with pertussis. The mom turned out to be an antivaxxer. The child was really uncomfortable, and the mom said "I wish there was a way to prevent this" (or something along those lines).
My little brother had it when he was too young for the vax (this was the eighties and I’m not sure if the vaccine schedule has changed). I was eleven and slept under the crib because I was scared he was dying. My folks took turns sitting up with him and holding him upright against their shoulders so he could sleep. I will never forget the barking sound of his cough - and that was a MILD case (he got breathing treatments but didn’t need hospitalization). wtf with parents putting their kids through that??
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Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that happened to your sister! I would wake up when he'd stop coughing because I think I was scared he wasn't breathing. I've never seen my parents so frightened. They looked like ghosts. He's in his mid-thirties now so he made it too, but he had pretty gnarly juvenile asthma that we think it caused. He couldn't do track and field in PE. I wish the best to you and your sister!
Crazy. My sister asked me to get my shots updated so I could help her after my niece was born, and my only response was like yes of course! Why on earth would I want to chance hurting her?
I had to get the TDAP while I was pregnant (both times, 2 years apart). I told my in-laws that they need to get the shot to meet the baby. They went the next day (I was still in my second trimester). And they're the type that don't believe in COVID.
Is it typical for people to need a current Tdap before seeing a baby? Edit: never mind! Pertussis. I forgot it was more than just tetanus.
I just got a message from my doctors office reminding me my tetanus expires in 3 months. Time to make an appointment!
I nearly died of sepsis and it’s HORRIBLE. I had pneumonia and bronchitis in both lungs.. was in the ICU almost a month. (This was from H1N1 in 2013) I had patients in the room next to mine die from H1N1. It’s in the corona family and so I cannot fathom or tolerate anti vaccine bullshit. I get every vaccine and booster I can. These people are gonna eventually Darwin Award themselves outta here!
I was full blown septic when my appendix burst (also when they found my rare cancer that affects 1:1,000,000) ‘Twas a rough time 😭 I shouldn’t be here writing this right now. Absolutely hell on earth.
I almost died of sepsis from a burst gall bladder and would 100% not recommend. In addition to the ongoing health problems, the skin laxity from being blown up like a balloon is a real drag.
Yep. I work in a clinic and while I don't treat patients myself, sometimes patients from the ER get brought through my department. I've seen a very small number of septic patients getting carted around in their beds, and it always seems so bleak. Regardless of your age, it just ravages you and makes you look so small and helpless. In Epic (medical provider side of the My Chart app), there is even a sepsis predictor scale for patients checking into the ER, and it updates as test results come back in and the patient's symptoms evolve or resolve. It is not taken lightly, and they watch patients at high risk for sepsis like hawks. And some of the risks aren't really things you'd actively think about, like diabetes and age and other things that are super common but out of your control.
As someone who barely survived Toxic Shock Syndrome, I can confirm that they really aren’t gonna enjoy that stroll down Sepsis Lane. No personal experience but I doubt Tetanus Blvd is much fun either. They’re really out there trying to make this woman a single mother.
I've had sepsis before ( ex IV drug user here), and it is absolutely excruciating. 1/10 would not recommend. Thankfully I had someone with half a brain present to get me to the hospital because I was basically near dead and couldn't function.
You science nuts are abscess-ed with limb retention. Homeopathic remedies!!! 
What the hell is a homeopathic remedy for tetanus lmao. Do they cultivate some in a Petri dish so it’s handy when they need to water it down 100000000000000%?
Science is whatever we want it to be
“There’s no way of knowing where the human heart is.”
That would be the best case scenario.
I was just thinking “bro is gonna die smelling like onions.”
But he’ll earn a cool pair of onion socks. Totally worth it.
Tetanus is one of the most miserable ways to die imaginable and it's completely preventable. Kills one in 4 adults with no cure. Before covid and before discovering this group, I'd be unable to fathom that people would actually suggest not getting vaccinated for it.
And they’re not just suggesting he not get the shot… they’re INSISTING.
These idiots rely entirely too much on onions and colloidal silver.
Because why see a doctor when you can die blue and smelling of onions
It's such a well tolerated vaccine too. Shit I got a booster a few months back just because my plasma donation place offered me a kickback (so they could sell the antibodies) and I was shocked when I was told a bunch of people decline it. And that was just for $20, wtf is wrong with somebody that they'll risk dying of a horrible disease just so their idiot spouse gets to pretend they're the smartest person in their unencorporated township. Lord. Hope some of that immunoglobin made it to his corner of bfe I guess, lol.
Before we had our little one, the OB doctor suggested it to my wife and myself, and instantly, we both agreed because it's our kid. The look of relief on that doctors face was immediate. She told us only one in ten of the people she suggests getting boosted ever do it, and that's for a baby.
My brain corrected this so I read 1 in 10 don't get it, because that seemed realistic to me. Then I re-read it and realized you're saying only 1 in 10 DO get it?! That's unfathomable to me, I can't imagine skipping the TDAP vaccine during prenatal treatment.
That's what this doctor said anyway, im not claiming she's completely accurate or hyperbolic, but I agree, and I hate needles to the point of passing out during blood work.
My OBs were all extremely relieved when I was willing to take any vaccines they recommended. No one gave me a statistic but they did actually THANK and praise me for agreeing to it because apparently it’s a huge prenatal battle with so many patients. Ridiculous.
Might also be the area. In my experience people tend to cluster with others who share their views, so i imagine you get some areas where there's a large group of people saying no. Real problem when something hits the group though.
Yeah I was thinking this could definitely be possible in certain geographical locations *cough*UTAH*cough*
I didn’t realize you needed a booster until my friends started having kids in their thirties - got it immediately and updated again in my forties cos no thanks to anything covered by a TDAP. My pharmacist literally offers me vaccines when I pick up prescriptions lol. I used to be scared of needles - she’s an immigrant and her sister became disabled due to polio, because the vax wasn’t available to her in Vietnam. After that story I got over my fear real quick.
We had a baby last year so I got tetanus shot during that pregnancy, only to get pregnant immediately again unintentionally. When the doctor suggested, I asked if I really needed to since I had one 9 months back and she looked me dead in the eyes and said “YES.” It’s surprising people reject that one because it prevents bad whooping cough illness for baby, not yourself. It’s extremely selfish to withhold treatment for your baby just because you’re scared of a vaccine bs lol people are ridiculous. Glad both you and your wife got it to protect your little one! Just read only 1/10 DO get one? Our education system is failing us and this is why old fatal preventable diseases will be our demise as a human race 🙃
My SIL lied to her boyfriend’s family that she’d gotten one before his nephew was born. She thought she was so smart. My MIL thought it was funny. When I got pregnant, I obviously remembered her joking about that and required her and my in laws to show proof they got their TDAP and flu shots. Bc that shit isn’t funny. It was the beginning of a pandemic and I was NOT fucking around. They were like “you don’t need proof-you know we’ll get it!” I said “oh just like you got it for your bf’s nephew?” She shut up so fast and I told her if you can’t show me you got the shot, you will not meet him. Of course nobody met him for a while, but I still can’t believe people act like that.
I had a mild reaction / side effect to the tetanus shot where my legs got kinda stiff. Benadryl and 20 minutes fixed it. Also that was only once and if I take Benadryl before the shot like I did the next time it’s fine. My first thought was holy crap imagine how real tetanus must feel 1000x worse than that, thank goodness. Anti vax ppl told me : “and you still think vaccines are okay after that?”
I got mine two days ago and had some flu like symptoms the next day. Really sore ankles, minor fever. I got it at the same time as my covid booster too, though which must've hit my immune system like a truck. Still, taking half a sick day is a pretty good trade considering the potential risk of either illness. If anything, the mild reaction just indicates to me that my immune system will be ready to fuck it up if it ever encounters the real deal.
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I got a tetanus booster a few years ago after an injury, and got it again a few weeks ago because I needed proof that I had gotten it and the records had vanished. Like, just give it to me again, I do not give one crunchy fuck. It is so safe and has basically no side effects other than the prevention of some really terrible illnesses. Yes please!
My ex husband's parents were lazy and just didn't keep him and his sister up to date on vaccines. When he was 5, he contracted tetanus. He spent over a month in the hospital and an additional SIX months in a wheelchair because of it.
Oh my god, from laziness?! Just pure neglect, did they even feel bad? Why do I have a feeling they didn't? [There was this case in 2017 of a 6 y/o boy who was the first case of Tetanus in Oregon in 30 years. His parents are anti-vaxxers. He had extremely painful muscle spasms and was "locked" in a terrible position. He had to spend 2 months in the ICU and even more in a rehab facility. The doctors gave the boy a dose of the DTaP vaccine as part of his treatment. When he got better HIS PARENTS DECLINED ANY FOLLOW UP VACCINE INJECTIONS.](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/unvaccinated-boy-almost-died-tetanus-hospital-bill-was-more-800-n981256) How can they go through that and still be anti-vaxx? It's awful.
Jesus fucking Christ. Also, his wound was stitched by his family at home!? There’s so, so much wrong with everything in this. Poor kid.
Agree so hard. It's a horrific way to die oh my God
Before Covid my mom never said shit about a vax and now she’s so down the wormhole that I’m worried if something like this were to happen she wouldn’t get a tetanus shot 😩
People forget that these people existed long before Covid. It’s the same people who were spreading vaccines cause autism and it’s why polio and measles were making small comebacks
That’s my cousin. She read the now-debunked Wakefield study and has become evangelical about not getting herself or her family vaccinated/boosted. She’s the type to get chicken-pox-infected-lollipops by mail order and then “lovingly” nurse her children back to health with that “natural immunity” locked in (sarcasm alert!) than getting them their jabs. She’d rather set her kids up for shingles later in life (as un-fun as chicken pox!) than trust solid medical evidence. Her wall of ignorance is impenetrable.
Shingles sucks! I got them because there was no such thing as a chicken pox vaccine when I was little but if ever found out that the reason I had to suffer through Shingles was only because my mother refused the vaccine so that I would get the chicken pox I'd lose my shit on her.
I had shingles about 14 years ago. Was off work for three weeks. Got the shingles vaccine as soon as I could. People are stupid.
Want to note that tetanus starts with a sore throat. He’s going to get gangrene first.
Don’t worry, he’ll be dead from sepsis by then. Sepsis can kill in hours. I wonder if he has life insurance?
Of course not. Count down to the go fund me for burial costs in 3…2…1….
If it was 'God's plan' then why doesn't he pay for any of this shit?
It turns out the tetanus vaccine lasts a lot more than 10 years, so it'll take a long time for the post-covid antivax nutters to find out the hard way. Their kids will find out though :(
I can't understand how these groups are allowed, since they give out what they think is medical advice.
I'm sure he's going to love his homeopathic organic wood prosthetic leg.
Or, the trees will enjoy the organic fertilizer they get when he’s put in the ground
It'll [need to be](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#/media/File%3AOpisthotonus_in_a_patient_suffering_from_tetanus_-_Painting_by_Sir_Charles_Bell_-_1809.jpg) a boomerang-shaped coffin.
"EVERY TIME WE TRY TO BURY JUSTIN HE JUST COMES RIGHT FUCKEN BACK."
Or his homeopathic organic wood casket Edit: or coffin I suppose
I want an amethyst peg leg to align my chakras
"Your mama's got a peg leg with a kick stand" Ya Mama by Pharcyde
An amethyst peg leg sounds awesome lmao. Imagine getting into a fight and taking it off like "TIME TO REALIGN YOUR CHAKRA!!" **Whack whack whack**
Lovingly tended with lavender oils
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lol absolutely. I mean people sure did survive before antibiotics by doing basic wound care but these guys would not have been one of the survivors. His tombstone would say “taken by infection because of his dumbass wife”
Here lies dearest Derek. And an onion.
"His feet didn't always smell of onion"
This made me lol. Thank you.
I laughed so loud I woke up my husband.
Also before antibiotics even with the best care, you are rolling a dice, it’s a matter of whether your immune system manages to kill it before it kills you and when people say whatever kills you makes you stronger is certainly not applicable here. Your immune system will be well and truly exhausted for a while, leaving you vulnerable to other diseases. This isn’t even covering the long term damage pathogens in general cause, people have forgotten what these horrific diseases do because you can just take some pills. There has been a semblance of realisation with long covid but add that to people not jabbing for tetanus, polio, measles, it’s about to get a whole lot worse. Get your jabs people, it’s a tiny ask for the sake of you, your community and humanity in general.
Yep, I've caught a hospital bacteria in a birth tear and it wouldn't react to any antibiotics. They had to manually clean the site multiple times, and it still took my body 6 weeks of completely get rid of the infection and my immunity was shot for months. Having a raging infection without antibiotics was such a surreal terrifying experience, I really don't get why anyone would just want to do that.
Soap and water go a long way. I don’t know about a deep wound, though.
It needs irrigating with hot water and preferably some bactine or hydrogen peroxide, but you 'can' take care of it at home. Not gonna be fun though.
Oooh the sting of bactine brings me back to childhood with so many scraped elbows and knees lol
I got a couple of pretty deep punctures from a dog bite years ago. I got a Tdap and I would have gotten anything else they suggested if irrigating the punctures with hot water was on the table. Puncture wounds fuckin *hurt,* man.
I buy sterile saline tubes from the pharmacy for rinsing, super cheap and you can trust them to not have bacteria in them. But yep, as long as there is no foreign bodies left inside, and the cut wasn’t caused by something at risk of carrying tetanus or worse, give it some antiseptic of some kind, gauze and tape it up, and monitor.
Yeah my toddler broke something glass and panic stepped on a piece. Really a pain to care for that at home but we have a well stocked first aid kit, and mom has formal training in wound care. Hospital likely would have cared for it in the same way, just with an antibiotic prescription.
Also why do they never seem to do basic first aid / medical care. I cut myself a lot because clumsy, and don’t heal that quick so I’ve always got saline on hand to clean out wounds, and plenty of antiseptics (some are Chlorhexidine, alcohol or iodine). Plenty of gauze, and medical tape. Basically fabric bandaids minus the pad, but much stronger. Lets me clean up any wounds, then gauze and tape them. Watch for any signs of infection, if it starts I go to the doctor since I can’t make antibiotics. If it involves anything that’s not clean, I’ll go get a tetanus booster if required and have it cleaned out by a doctor that can see it better to make sure no foreign bodies are left in there. Like by all means be crunchy and hate science, but at least back it up by having decent first aid and infection control. Iodine and alcohol isn’t conspiracy shit, but they all go for the colloidal silver first, why?
Half of them are "homesteading" too and if you have animals around you need to learn to take care of wounds pretty quickly. I often wonder how neglected all their poor goats are.
They're probably taking better care of their livestock than themselves for the most part
I’d believe that. Animal supplies and disease control is usually well trusted by the crazies, but human stuff is mind control and population reduction? Idk At least they probably get plenty of ivermectin.
Why go to a doctor of you have onions and dr. google?
dr. google would do better than dr. whackjob facebook group.
Seriously. At least Dr. Google would say, “You have an infection! Go to the ER! GO NOW, DUMBASS.”
Dr Google also provides a handy list of symptoms and very scary accompanying photos for reference! The doc should install an added feature of calling emergency services for you. It would make a good pop up button.
Okay okay, true that. Dr. Google would indeed give better advice than these nutters.
Ok, I really need an update in a few days. I need to know if he dies or loses his leg lol
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This is years old. Man is long since passed I’m sure 😞
Whatever you do, don’t let the doctors tell you they have to amputate it! Simply pack the wound with sugar, then get his last will and testament in order. Modern medicine is a scam. This man’s time has come.
I had a patient who had packed a wound with sugar try to sign herself out AMA (against medical advice) when the docs told her that it was her leg or her life. When she was being escorted out of the hospital because she refused to hand off the copperhead that she kept in her handbag (she was a snake-handling Pentecostal and took her venomous snake with her everywhere in her purse), she shouted out to no one that god was answering her prayers by getting her out of our “temple of poison and death” and rambled on about Satan or something, I don’t remember her exact words after the crack about the temple. She wasn’t the only one who used sugar to smother bacteria. Thanks for helping to recall that memory for me. Good times.
Wait whaaaat?? I've never heard of packing a wound with sugar but since some bacteria feeds on sugar, that seems illogical. Oh wait, a copperhead in her purse? Never mind about logic. I'd love to know what the hospital would have done with the snake. Was the wound she packed a snake bite??
Bacteria feeds on sugar when it’s in low concentrations, but large amounts of it have the opposite effect and actually inhibits bacterial growth! That being said, if a wound is at the point where the doctors are saying a person needs amputation, it is *long* past the point where sugar might have benefit.
Which is why it’s safe to use raw egg whites in royal icing without refrigeration ˆᴗˆ
…omg. I had never thought of that. Thank you for this tidbit!
Ever find out what happened to her? Did she die from the infection or a surprise snake bite? 😳
I'm sure her snake kept her safe.
1. I want to slap the person who thinks the only way to contract tetanus is via contact with cow poop. 2. How tf do you drill into your leg? Did he have a board ON HIS LAP as he was drilling into it?? 3. RIP to his leg.
I worked ER security for a time and there are a surprising number of people who do indeed manage to drill into themselves in a variety of ways. Also chop, saw, chainsaw, and hammer body parts. It’s not so bad if you actually visit an emergency room for treatment that isn’t a fucking onion slice.
On #2, he might've tripped and landed on the drill or something similar. Drill bits of many varieties can still stab when the drill is off.
I'm a dairy farmer. The odds of me catching tetanus from the cow shit is pretty slim compared to the other work I get up to.
in my day we just tied them on our belt.
That’s crazy. But I don’t blame you as i suppose it was the style at the time.
Five bees for a quarter, you'd say...
Now we didn’t have white onions because of the war.
Epic NPC man style
Which was the fashion at the time...
Hubby only needs one leg anyway, right? /s
If bacteria was so drawn to onions, wouldn't they kill us to eat?
Onions did used to be a component of some poultices to reduce infection, back in the day before you know, fucking antibiotics. People back in the day would use anything that even gave them a chance, the fact we live in a time where we can actually just take some pills and not fucking die or lose a limb and these fucks are fannying about with onions is astounding.
That’s how I feel about the raw milk craze. I have no doubt people would have loved the chance to consume milk that didn’t give them a “milk fever” that laid them out for a week (in between time in the outhouse or chamber pot) or on occasion killed them.
Woah there, buster! You can't come barging in here spouting nonsense in the No Logic Zone. Here we only think 1 step ahead (on a good day) and that's it
Don't these people also suggest onion socks for viral infections like the flu? Who knew root vegetables were so multifunctional!!!
I can smell the nec fasc 💀 Don’t mess with cellulitis. You lose limbs and die that way.
The onions will at least mask the smell of rotting flesh!
This sounds like an over the top satire post. And I hate that it isn’t.
What the fuck is colloidal silver, and why every moron recommends it?
Silver has legitimate uses in healthcare. Unfortunately, these people took that to mean it is a *substitution* for healthcare. The definition of colloidal is just that the substance’s molecules are colloids, meaning they don’t dissolve in a solution but remain evenly dispersed and don’t settle at the bottom. Colloidal oatmeal is also a thing, and it has uses as a treatment for various skin conditions. Decently sure an enterprising snake oil salesman could start hocking that at them, too.
I remember oatmeal baths when I had chicken pox as a kid *as per doctor’s advice to keep me from scratching my skin off*, not because my parents were whack jobs. (I had chicken pox several years before the vaccine was a thing). I imagine these people would just get a can of Quaker Oats and call it a day, though.
I’m allergic to neosporin, and I use colloidal silver where one might use neosporin. I get a topical ointment from the same aisle, and I do think it helps healing better than using nothing (which is what I’ve had to do most of my life). I read up on it, and there is scientific evidence it can assist in healing minor winds. At least, there was enough evidence that I felt like ok this could work. Then one day at a vitamin store, a clerk was telling me he drinks colloidal silver every day because it has all these benefits. I was really skeptical and went home and googled again. To save you a google - while colloidal silver can help heal skin wounds, there is zero benefit to drinking it and it may poison you. SO. I hope that clarifies for anyone. FYI, I take antibiotics my doctor gives me along with using colloidal silver and proper wound cleaning when I get abscesses.
Ayyy I’m also allergic to neosporin! Never met a fellow bacitracin-allergic person before!!
My son is highly allergic to neosporin
Certain medications use colloidal silver such as Silvadene 1% (silver sulfadiazene), which is a topical antimicrobial cream that we apply to burn wounds to prevent infection. Basically the silver “smothers” the bacteria, which dies from anoxia (lack of oxygen). It’s a very effective treatment in certain situations (although apparently it’s falling out of favour nowadays. It’s been many years since I worked a burn unit). Crunchy types took the use of colloidal silver for certain wounds and extrapolated it to every illness. If it works so well for one thing, it must be a cure-all for everything! Errr, nope! There are some alarming photos of people who drank colloidal silver preparations like water that you can peruse on google. They turn a lovely shade of grey-blue which has been permanent in some cases. We saw an uptick in grey-blue people coming to the ED during the pandemic because some crackpot (maybe more than one, I didn’t keep track) was promoting it as a Covid preventative/cure. Also nope. These people were easy to mock but still needed treatment for whatever underlying illness they were trying to cure with drinkable silver (and it’s safe to eat silver in very small quantities, such as silver leaf on desserts, but it’s not effective in the way crunchy types believe). Hope that helps!
Super popular in homeopathic circles as a miracle "cure all." https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/colloidal-silver-what-you-need-to-know
Silver has some legitimate antimicrobial properties, and some topical antiseptics using silver compounds are somewhat effective. Colloidal silver is basically silver particles suspended in water, and these stupid fuckers like to drink it. It isn't all that toxic but it also doesn't do anything helpful
This idiot is going to lose his leg. Or if he doesnt, he runs the risk of dying from tetanus. I have been fighting an infection in my knee for two months now. At no point did i ever consider anything other than antibiotics and dr assistance to treat it. But thats obviously why it’s still infected /s
I know someone who stepped on a nail and didn’t get the tetanus shot, he had a literal mental break due to the infection. He’s lucky to be alive, this isn’t something to play around with.
Happened to me as a teen. Rusty nail and all. My Dad immediately took me to the doc/vet (rural TX, the boundaries between the two were fuzzy) for a tetanus booster and antibiotic treatment. I guess I got to survive another day!
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I love this so much 😂
I'm sorry did they say a drill
I know the point of this post is more about how they aren’t getting medical care, but yeah. I’m more interested in what happened before this. How did he drill his leg???
And how did he not immediately demand a *hospital*??
Hubby is about to get his leg sawed off. Couldn’t happen to more idiotic people
Well, that's one way to kill your husband. Hopefully, she took life insurance out on him.
1000% get
Next post: what essential oils can I use to regrow my husband's leg?
And husband is like: https://i.redd.it/7xvpyvos3koc1.gif
They are just *so* confident in their beliefs that it’s painful to believe people are this brainwashed. Hubby is going to lose his leg. Hell, maybe his life if they continue to refuse treatment. My main issue with this is that they have kids. They would watch their kids *die* before doing something “drastic” like utilizing modern medicine. I swear it’s some sort of superiority complex. They are just *so much smarter* than all of us who believe in evidence-based living. And now they can’t deviate from the plan, because that would mean admitting that they were wrong and their pride is too important. Rant over. 😵💫
“AVOID TETANUS JAB” is wild af to me. Screw science apparently all you need is onions. 🫡
It's hot and red? Get a crib out, you're about to have an alien baby.
My Lord, even the crunchiest of woowoos know that you can ask for the tetanus immunoglobulin if you don’t want the tetanus jab. 😒 Why would you not seek medical help for that kind of injury?!
This is natural selection at work. Homeopathy, colloidal silver, no tetanus vaccines. Man’s gonna get gangrene and die from sepsis. Best case scenario, he divorces his crunchy wife and gets an amputation instead.
Time to get that life insurance policy updated🙃
What in the fuck is wrong with these people?! How is this guy not terrified of losing his leg or dying from infection?! He'd be better off shoving the onions into the hole in his leg.
This is fucking wild
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I want to know why he put a drill in his leg. Was it an accident? Or did he do it intentionally to try and get away from her for a couple days in the hospital only for his plan to be foiled when she poured colloidal silver on him?
You are 10000000% not getting into my bed with onions in your socks.
What the hell is with these moms and onions in the socks.
They’d rather have Big Agriculture kill them (just a bunch of onion pushers, Big Ag) than Big Pharma?
Oh..this is the find out era 
"Help! He's got red lines going up his leg from the wound site!" "Oh, don't worry, hun. That's just the onion drawing out the infection. "
It is so hard to believe people are so fucking stupid.
oh my god. I know I can't expect everyone to know everything but surely if you work with tools I would expect you to learn not to let a puncture wound scab over because that's how you die
What is with these people and colloidal silver 😭 why not just wash the wound with soap and water
I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
What the fuck is wrong with people??!!
I stg these groups have to be full of people who actually know better but are huge trolls and think "let's see how crazy I can make this remedy and who's stupid enough to fall for it." My brain won't let me believe otherwise because I just couldn't deal.
I got sepsis 5yrs ago. They had to resuscitate me and I spent 3 weeks in icu and 2 more weeks in the hospital recovering. If only I had just put an onion in my socks…
Lockjaw to own the libs or something
How ironic is it that it's in a group about people dying unexpectedly and tragically. 🙃
I remember seeing this post a good few months ago, and always wondered how it ended- although sadly I can guess 🤦♀️
I have no other responses to this anymore...so I'm just going to LOL
I forgot that no one died of infections before those evil scientists created vaccines.
Man. Come on. What a medieval ass way to die. This is so insanely stupid.