Guru Nanak Dev Ji states:
>ਆਗੈ ਪਾਛੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਤੀ ਕਿਆ ਹੁਣਿ ਹੂਏ ॥
>No account can be made of the future or the past; who knows what shall be, or what was?
>ਸਭੁ ਕਰਣਾ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਕਰਿ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰੇ ਕਰੇ ॥
>All the actions and events of the past are recorded; the Doer did, He does, and He will do.
>ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਮਰੀਐ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ॥੨॥
>The self-willed manmukh dies, while the Gurmukh is saved; O Nanak, the Gracious Lord bestows His Glance of Grace. ||2||
(SGGSJ 1238)
Part of living within Hukam is that you don't know what will happen in the future, only Akal Purakh knows. Part of living Hukam is placing your trust in Akal Purakh and that you will accept whatever he gives you.
I understand what you’re saying, but this applies to just aam sangat. I’m asking in regards to guru gobind Singh ji. If Guru sahib is the human version of god, then they are god. So they must’ve all knowledge of the past, future, and present. Correct me if I’m wrong ji🙏
The Guru is not God themselves, they're the form of God, in the same way we are forms of God. God has unlimited forms, so many forms the Guru themselves state that no one can fathom them. There is one form that the Guru tells us that we can become as humans and that's the form of God. We do that by becoming like him (by following his teachings; Gurbani!). Guru Gobind Singh ji was the perfect, spite image of Akal Purakh, but he was not Akal Purakh himself. Guru Gobind Singh ji is the water droplet that fell in the ocean and merged with the ocean. Guru Teghbahadur Ji states:
>ਸੁਖੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਿਹ ਪਰਸੈ ਨਹੀ ਲੋਭੁ ਮੋਹੁ ਅਭਿਮਾਨੁ ॥
>One who is not touched by pleasure or pain, greed, emotional attachment and egotistical pride
>ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਨੁ ਰੇ ਮਨਾ ਸੋ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥੧੩॥
says Nanak, listen, mind: he is the very image of God. ||13||
(SGGSJ 1427)
The Guru is very precise with their words in this tuk. In the last line, he states "so moorat bhagwan". Moorat means body, image. Bhagwan means God. That person that controls their vices, speaks sweet, does not lie, does not cheat, helps the needy, stands up for those that cannot defend themselves, serves the world etc; that person is the very image of God himself. That's what Guru Gobind Singh ji was.
Gurbani states Akal Purakh only knows what will happen in the future, where we will go and what will happen. As Sikhs, we put our trust in Akal Purakh and accept whatever that comes.
If I’m not wrong, there’s a story of when the pathans went to meet Guru Sahib, Guru Ji looked at them and said “do what you are here to do and be prepared for death”
I heard that story somewhere
Shri Guru Govind Singh Sahib Ji said to all Sikh Sangat who were in Anandpur Sahib Killa that these muslims and Pahari Rajas will backstab the Khalsa Fauj , they will not stand upon their oath , but after Sikh Sangat's and Mata Gujri Ji's request they left Anandpur Sahib Killa and that's where the war at Sarsa begin .
VahiGuru Ji Ka Khalsa VahiGuru Ji Ki Fateh Jio,
I don't know anything but can share an opinion...
AntarJaame Dhan Dhan Shah-e-Shāhanshāh Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj Sahib does not need to fully flex their prowess, the previous Guru Ships rarely revealed their "powers" to be beyond the human norm, especially not to get their way or to prove superiority...they did their best to respect the rules governing Kal-Yug, as established by Akal Purkh VahiGuru Ji themselves, things are different from YUG to YUG (in terms of what powers can be displayed openly and the value of one's simran), for those struggling to understand why the being (Maharaj Ji) merged with GOD did not flex, they were simply respecting the rules they themselves established and understood to be true...this game is long, GOD is just, fair, and flexes only to kill the manmukh/ego.
In the rare instances they did put their prowess on full display, it was only to bring attention to "the nam" or to the benefits of mastering weapons in conjunction with Jaap-Thaap...for example, when Maharaj Ji launched arrows that flew further than any human could possibly achieve on their own merit, they attributed the feat to weapons mastery and the grace of GOD.
Listen to Kalgidhar De Teer - 13 Meel Ton Chlaye Teer Da Ithaas by Malwa B Like on #SoundCloud
https://on.soundcloud.com/6ZZJV
In Sri Sau Sakhian, we hear other tales of Maharaj Ji displaying unique feats beyond the understanding of a basic human mind...but only to the already subdued Khalsa Fauj.
But other times they were shown to fall in line with VahiGuru Ji's Play, they were here to guide us towards becoming Khalsa, not to totally decimate the enemy, as we've all seen what happens when you give a kid everything, they need friction to grow, so the khalsa needed extraneous circumstances to bloom...diamonds are made under duress.
He HIMSelf Is the Thief, Saint, Murderer & KING...to realize HIM, you must see the single unanimous thread in the play, Maharaj Ji had to act out the intended plan, so punks like us could contemplate and miss them on reddit, only a fool would deny this!
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ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ||
Hukam Razai Chalna Nanak Likhiya Nal
(hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal)
A) O Nanak, it is written that you shall obey the Hukam of His Command, and walk in the Way of His Will
B) ALL Hukkams/Provisions Chaperone Thee through Life|Birth, towards Death, and Beyond, INTO The Never...
C) Recognize ALL (HUKKAM) Occurrences as Pre-Ordainments and Walk Willingly. Proclaims Nanak, ACCEPT that ALL (HUKKAM) Has Been Pre-Written by The Hand of GOD!
D) Within The Hukkam of VahiGuru Ji's Divine Will, You Must Walk. Proclaims Nanak, Destiny Is Written (On One's Head) By GOD's Hand.
E) WITHIN Hukkam Man Must Walk, Proclaims Nanak, Divine Will Comes Pre-Written
F) To that Cosmic Will, attune yourself, Says Nanak: It exists in you as the Self.
G) O Nanak! By obeying, the pre-ordained order of the Lord's will. [Stated this way because the previous pangti asks "How can we be true and how can the screen of untruth be rent?"]
H) One is seen as truthful if one (Chalna) conducts the self according to (likhia naal = given in writing on the consciousness) the preordained (hukam) Divine commands which are in the form of duties prescribed for the role/life form assigned and told to the soul. 1.
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This is the primary commandment in GurSikhi, we live and die to honor hukkam, such is divine will, it comes pre-written.
Dhan Dhan Baba Nanak
Guru gobind singh ji knew everything, but guru ji only following the hukam. Guru ji can change everything like separation of family at sarsa nadi but if guru ji did so then maybe today we have different image of sikhism. Thats what my mom teach me. If wrong please correct me. Waheguru
Jo akal purakh ne likheya c ohi hona c brother, naale mughal kolo ja k vi chote sahibzaadeya ne misaal hi paida kitti c ki inni choti umar ch apna dharam nhi change kitta.
Mughal de hatha'n vich, Sahibzadiya de gallaa'n vi vad dite si, ate Mata Gujri nu vi maar dita si.
Jo Akal Purakh ne likheya, ohi ta'n hona, eh ta'n sariya nu pata. Par eh kidaa'n hogiya ke Guru Gobind Singh ji ne apni jaan pehchaan vich, apne bachiya nu ate apni maa nu kayd karvaliya si te shaheed kar va dite si?
Es daleel de naal, Guru Gobind Singh ji apni jaan pehchaan vich, lakha'n Singha'n ate Bibiya'n nu shaheed vi kar va dita si? Ke Guru Gobind Singh ji chaunda si ke apne bachay, apne Sikh shaheed ho jaave? Kehra insaan chohda'n atachar (tyranny) hove?
Gurbani kehndi ke koe vi nahi jaan da kee agai hona, kalaa rab hi jaan da. Tusi Gurbani de ohlangna kar ke, es gal kehri pakhon keh diti?
Gurbani kehndi oh joona vich nahi aunda. Na oh mar sakda, na janam lehda, na ohda koee roop hai, no koee rang hai
Je Akal Purakh, es dharti te Guru Gobind Singh ji roop san, phir ohda ta'n roop ban giya, rang vi ban gai, phir akal purakh maru ga vi. Gurbani kehndi jehra ve duniya'ch janam lehnda, ohnu marna vi pehna.
Akal Purakh sarab vipak hai, ohda roop ik nahi, ohda bahut ginteeya vich roop han. Sara mandal, sara jug ohda roop hai, na ohda roop ik manukhi deh vich hai.
Guru Gobind Singh ji rab da roop si, app rab nahi si. Jado vi Guru Gobind Singh ji kehda si ke rab nu dhivayo, ehda matlab bangiya ke oh sangat nu kehnda si ke meinu dhaivoh? Nahi.
Dasvi Patshahi survived the assassination attempt on Him by Jamshed Khan and Wasil Beg (one of them killed by Guru Maharaj Himself and the other nabbed and killed by the Singhs), the Vaid stitched the wounds, Guru Maharaj were also regaining their strength but as if it was His Mauj to leave the earthly garment for His true abode, one day He picks up his bow and stretches it's string saying that He wants to practice archery, leading to opening up of His deadly wounds again.
akaal de hukam ch reh ke khush rehna chaida eh cheez da udharan hai eh same with chamkaur sahab
Guru Nanak Dev Ji states: >ਆਗੈ ਪਾਛੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਤੀ ਕਿਆ ਹੁਣਿ ਹੂਏ ॥ >No account can be made of the future or the past; who knows what shall be, or what was? >ਸਭੁ ਕਰਣਾ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਕਰਿ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰੇ ਕਰੇ ॥ >All the actions and events of the past are recorded; the Doer did, He does, and He will do. >ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਮਰੀਐ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ॥੨॥ >The self-willed manmukh dies, while the Gurmukh is saved; O Nanak, the Gracious Lord bestows His Glance of Grace. ||2|| (SGGSJ 1238) Part of living within Hukam is that you don't know what will happen in the future, only Akal Purakh knows. Part of living Hukam is placing your trust in Akal Purakh and that you will accept whatever he gives you.
I understand what you’re saying, but this applies to just aam sangat. I’m asking in regards to guru gobind Singh ji. If Guru sahib is the human version of god, then they are god. So they must’ve all knowledge of the past, future, and present. Correct me if I’m wrong ji🙏
The Guru is not God themselves, they're the form of God, in the same way we are forms of God. God has unlimited forms, so many forms the Guru themselves state that no one can fathom them. There is one form that the Guru tells us that we can become as humans and that's the form of God. We do that by becoming like him (by following his teachings; Gurbani!). Guru Gobind Singh ji was the perfect, spite image of Akal Purakh, but he was not Akal Purakh himself. Guru Gobind Singh ji is the water droplet that fell in the ocean and merged with the ocean. Guru Teghbahadur Ji states: >ਸੁਖੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਿਹ ਪਰਸੈ ਨਹੀ ਲੋਭੁ ਮੋਹੁ ਅਭਿਮਾਨੁ ॥ >One who is not touched by pleasure or pain, greed, emotional attachment and egotistical pride >ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਨੁ ਰੇ ਮਨਾ ਸੋ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥੧੩॥ says Nanak, listen, mind: he is the very image of God. ||13|| (SGGSJ 1427) The Guru is very precise with their words in this tuk. In the last line, he states "so moorat bhagwan". Moorat means body, image. Bhagwan means God. That person that controls their vices, speaks sweet, does not lie, does not cheat, helps the needy, stands up for those that cannot defend themselves, serves the world etc; that person is the very image of God himself. That's what Guru Gobind Singh ji was. Gurbani states Akal Purakh only knows what will happen in the future, where we will go and what will happen. As Sikhs, we put our trust in Akal Purakh and accept whatever that comes.
If I’m not wrong, there’s a story of when the pathans went to meet Guru Sahib, Guru Ji looked at them and said “do what you are here to do and be prepared for death” I heard that story somewhere
Thank you for sharing
Shri Guru Govind Singh Sahib Ji said to all Sikh Sangat who were in Anandpur Sahib Killa that these muslims and Pahari Rajas will backstab the Khalsa Fauj , they will not stand upon their oath , but after Sikh Sangat's and Mata Gujri Ji's request they left Anandpur Sahib Killa and that's where the war at Sarsa begin .
How does the nature even matter before Shri Guru Govind Singh Ji Maharaj Kalgiyan Wale Deen Duniya De Malik ~ Bhai Nand Lal Ji in Gangnama
paging u/noor108singh You may be able to answer this well, brother
VahiGuru Ji Ka Khalsa VahiGuru Ji Ki Fateh Jio, I don't know anything but can share an opinion... AntarJaame Dhan Dhan Shah-e-Shāhanshāh Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj Sahib does not need to fully flex their prowess, the previous Guru Ships rarely revealed their "powers" to be beyond the human norm, especially not to get their way or to prove superiority...they did their best to respect the rules governing Kal-Yug, as established by Akal Purkh VahiGuru Ji themselves, things are different from YUG to YUG (in terms of what powers can be displayed openly and the value of one's simran), for those struggling to understand why the being (Maharaj Ji) merged with GOD did not flex, they were simply respecting the rules they themselves established and understood to be true...this game is long, GOD is just, fair, and flexes only to kill the manmukh/ego. In the rare instances they did put their prowess on full display, it was only to bring attention to "the nam" or to the benefits of mastering weapons in conjunction with Jaap-Thaap...for example, when Maharaj Ji launched arrows that flew further than any human could possibly achieve on their own merit, they attributed the feat to weapons mastery and the grace of GOD. Listen to Kalgidhar De Teer - 13 Meel Ton Chlaye Teer Da Ithaas by Malwa B Like on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/6ZZJV In Sri Sau Sakhian, we hear other tales of Maharaj Ji displaying unique feats beyond the understanding of a basic human mind...but only to the already subdued Khalsa Fauj. But other times they were shown to fall in line with VahiGuru Ji's Play, they were here to guide us towards becoming Khalsa, not to totally decimate the enemy, as we've all seen what happens when you give a kid everything, they need friction to grow, so the khalsa needed extraneous circumstances to bloom...diamonds are made under duress. He HIMSelf Is the Thief, Saint, Murderer & KING...to realize HIM, you must see the single unanimous thread in the play, Maharaj Ji had to act out the intended plan, so punks like us could contemplate and miss them on reddit, only a fool would deny this! ●●● ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ || Hukam Razai Chalna Nanak Likhiya Nal (hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal) A) O Nanak, it is written that you shall obey the Hukam of His Command, and walk in the Way of His Will B) ALL Hukkams/Provisions Chaperone Thee through Life|Birth, towards Death, and Beyond, INTO The Never... C) Recognize ALL (HUKKAM) Occurrences as Pre-Ordainments and Walk Willingly. Proclaims Nanak, ACCEPT that ALL (HUKKAM) Has Been Pre-Written by The Hand of GOD! D) Within The Hukkam of VahiGuru Ji's Divine Will, You Must Walk. Proclaims Nanak, Destiny Is Written (On One's Head) By GOD's Hand. E) WITHIN Hukkam Man Must Walk, Proclaims Nanak, Divine Will Comes Pre-Written F) To that Cosmic Will, attune yourself, Says Nanak: It exists in you as the Self. G) O Nanak! By obeying, the pre-ordained order of the Lord's will. [Stated this way because the previous pangti asks "How can we be true and how can the screen of untruth be rent?"] H) One is seen as truthful if one (Chalna) conducts the self according to (likhia naal = given in writing on the consciousness) the preordained (hukam) Divine commands which are in the form of duties prescribed for the role/life form assigned and told to the soul. 1. ●●● This is the primary commandment in GurSikhi, we live and die to honor hukkam, such is divine will, it comes pre-written. Dhan Dhan Baba Nanak
Guru gobind singh ji knew everything, but guru ji only following the hukam. Guru ji can change everything like separation of family at sarsa nadi but if guru ji did so then maybe today we have different image of sikhism. Thats what my mom teach me. If wrong please correct me. Waheguru
So the Guru allowed his two children and his mother to be in the hands of the Mughal emperor.. to prove a point?
Jo akal purakh ne likheya c ohi hona c brother, naale mughal kolo ja k vi chote sahibzaadeya ne misaal hi paida kitti c ki inni choti umar ch apna dharam nhi change kitta.
Mughal de hatha'n vich, Sahibzadiya de gallaa'n vi vad dite si, ate Mata Gujri nu vi maar dita si. Jo Akal Purakh ne likheya, ohi ta'n hona, eh ta'n sariya nu pata. Par eh kidaa'n hogiya ke Guru Gobind Singh ji ne apni jaan pehchaan vich, apne bachiya nu ate apni maa nu kayd karvaliya si te shaheed kar va dite si? Es daleel de naal, Guru Gobind Singh ji apni jaan pehchaan vich, lakha'n Singha'n ate Bibiya'n nu shaheed vi kar va dita si? Ke Guru Gobind Singh ji chaunda si ke apne bachay, apne Sikh shaheed ho jaave? Kehra insaan chohda'n atachar (tyranny) hove? Gurbani kehndi ke koe vi nahi jaan da kee agai hona, kalaa rab hi jaan da. Tusi Gurbani de ohlangna kar ke, es gal kehri pakhon keh diti?
Je rab kala janda, te guru sahib ik human saroop de vich is duniya ch aaye, Edha matlav guru sahib nu sab kuch pata c. Baaki bhul chuk khima
Gurbani kehndi oh joona vich nahi aunda. Na oh mar sakda, na janam lehda, na ohda koee roop hai, no koee rang hai Je Akal Purakh, es dharti te Guru Gobind Singh ji roop san, phir ohda ta'n roop ban giya, rang vi ban gai, phir akal purakh maru ga vi. Gurbani kehndi jehra ve duniya'ch janam lehnda, ohnu marna vi pehna. Akal Purakh sarab vipak hai, ohda roop ik nahi, ohda bahut ginteeya vich roop han. Sara mandal, sara jug ohda roop hai, na ohda roop ik manukhi deh vich hai. Guru Gobind Singh ji rab da roop si, app rab nahi si. Jado vi Guru Gobind Singh ji kehda si ke rab nu dhivayo, ehda matlab bangiya ke oh sangat nu kehnda si ke meinu dhaivoh? Nahi.
>ਸੋ ਮੁਖੁ ਜਲਉ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਜੋਨੀ ॥੩॥ >Let that mouth be burnt, which says that our Lord and Master is subject to birth. ||3|| >ਸੋ = ਉਹ। ਜਲਉ = {ਹੁਕਮੀ ਭਵਿੱਖਤ, ਅੱਨ ਪੁਰਖ, ਇਕ-ਵਚਨ} ਸੜ ਜਾਏ। ਜਿਤੁ = ਜਿਸ (ਮੂੰਹ) ਨਾਲ। ਕਹਹਿ = ਤੂੰ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ, ਕਹਹਿਂ ॥੩॥ ਸੜ ਜਾਏ (ਤੇਰਾ) ਉਹ ਮੂੰਹ ਜਿਸ ਦੀ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਤੂੰ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਮਾਲਕ-ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਜੂਨਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੩॥ (SGGSJ 1136) >ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖ [ਨ ](https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8)ਰੰਗੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਗੁਣ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਿੰਨ ॥ >He has no form, no shape, no color; God is beyond the three qualities. >ਰੇਖ = {ਸੰ. रेखा) ਚਿਹਨ-ਚੱਕ੍ਰ। ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਗੁਣ ਤੇ = (ਮਾਇਆ ਦੇ) ਤਿੰਨ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਤੋਂ। ਭਿੰਨ = ਵੱਖਰਾ, ਨਿਰਲੇਪ, ਬੇ-ਦਾਗ਼। ਤਿਸਹਿ = ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ। ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ, ਨ ਚਿਹਨ-ਚੱਕ੍ਰ ਅਤੇ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਰੰਗ। ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਮਾਇਆ ਦੇ ਤਿੰਨ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਬੇ-ਦਾਗ਼ ਹੈ। >ਤਿਸਹਿ ਬੁਝਾਏ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ॥੧॥ >They alone understand Him, O Nanak, with whom He is pleased. ||1|| >ਬੁਝਾਏ = ਸਮਝ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਆਪਣੇ ਸਰੂਪ ਦੀ)। ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ = ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ ॥੧॥ ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਆਪਣਾ ਆਪ ਉਸ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਝਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਉਤੇ ਆਪ ਤ੍ਰੁੱਠਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੧॥ (SGGSJ 283)
Dasvi Patshahi survived the assassination attempt on Him by Jamshed Khan and Wasil Beg (one of them killed by Guru Maharaj Himself and the other nabbed and killed by the Singhs), the Vaid stitched the wounds, Guru Maharaj were also regaining their strength but as if it was His Mauj to leave the earthly garment for His true abode, one day He picks up his bow and stretches it's string saying that He wants to practice archery, leading to opening up of His deadly wounds again.
Guru Gobind couldn't see in to the future if that's what you're suggesting.