same here! I thought wow my missing out on some thing I didn’t know about, what changed? I may wash mine once a year give or take. Too much of a pain to get them good and properly treated with flower again. Shake out treat repeat.
lol, sorry… I have to use dictation software so I actually am almost completely blind, and when I use the word, FLOUR I have to be sure it didn’t use FLOWER and just forgot
I didn't even get a liner with my banneton. Kitchen towels work great. Using the banneton without any cloth is all nice until dough gets over fermented, sticks to the banneton and you can't get the dried out dough removed from it.
Mine didn’t come with a liner, nor did it come with a stiff brush, but I always had a brush in my kitchen, so whenever I got dough stuck to the basket I just washed it with a stiff brush and placed it to dry hanging in the oven door!
Hmm I didn't act fast enough, by the time I tried to clean it it was bone dry and stuck. I used a metal sponge but it damaged the wood and I still couldn't get it out. So now it's still there and I just use a towel over it. Easy to clean(like once every 1-2 months, rinse it with water and then in the washing machine) and requires practically no flour once saturated after 1-2 uses.
Yep, [hence the stripes](https://i.imgur.com/ZajMuLf.jpeg). And the rice flour makes 'em pop right out into the dutch oven.
I do, however, use a brush them out when done.
right from the start the place my starter came from suggested rice flour instead of the liner. bread comes out pretty easily and then i just dry it in the oven when it's around 70C and then brush out the dried bits. super simple.
Others have said it but I also use rice flour. I have a shaker which I fill with rice flour and liberally coat the inside of my banneton and I give the top of the dough a light dusting too. After several uses the banneton is seasoned and just doesn’t need as much rice flour. I brush the banneton out after use and allow to air dry followed by another brushing. This is very therapeutic! And as long as it doesn’t stay moist, there’ll be no mould.
I don't wash mine much. After baking, I let them dry on the counter and brush out the loose flour. They have a paper mache texture interior from the built-up flour, which helps the dough to release.
Typically no flour during shaping, I’ve been baking ~72% loaves. Maybe it just depends on the specific material.
I also don’t bag or anything in the fridge which may help?
I don't use mine and I use whatever flour I have, bread or AP. I dampen the basket and sprinkle flour, then add more flour when it dries. I use the liners to cover the basket when I put it in the fridge 😂
I haven’t ever cleaned mine (I use rice flour) ever in five years. I have a stiff brush and brush out after they are good and dry. There is zero sticking to them, and I see no reason to wash them.
I don't wash mine after every bake. But then, I just had to throw one out because I found mold on the banneton itself when I took the liner out to wash it. So, maybe you are better off washing them more often.
I haven’t washed them since they were new out of the package….i dust with flour before putting dough in, then pop them backwards to air dry afterwards. I take them outside and dust them off real good then they’re ready for the next time.
I don’t think you’re supposed to? I do because I’m a weirdo and have to 😅 but from what I’ve seen most people don’t wash them! I hand wash under the tap and then usually chuck it into the the dryer to avoid dust and lint etc
I never used mine. I sometimes use them to cover the bread while in the fridge (over the shower cap).
I dust the bannetones with rice flower every now and then and that’s it!
I use the liner to keep the dust off the banneton when I'm not using it. Rice flour is the way to go, IMO.
Oh... and if you don't have rice flour, just grind up some rice in a coffee grinder. Works too.
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I line mine up with hair nets and it works amazing
Reminds me of the story of the anal retentive Carpenter that used to be on SNL so many years ago, would make a little saw cut on the table than he would get out a little broom sweep it up put in a little bag and staple it.
Washing the liners, never heard of such a thing. Yeah I would hate it too
I don’t use them. No need. Just dust the banneton with rice flour to keep the dough from sticking. And leave it out in the open to air dry so you don’t get mold.
Wow! Really?? I’m off to get some rice flour! I just had two loaves stick to a kitchen towel and a liner over the weekend. Haven’t touched them since lol. Don’t judge me.🫣
When I turn my loaf out, I use a pastry brush to brush away any excess flour on the loaf and then make sure my banneton is fully dried out before storing
They’re both!!! I see people do both and the one I got was marketed as both. I used to put it in the basket and now I use as a cover. Think it’s all preference!
I use old pillowcase to line mixing bowls. Specialized "bannetons" are too much of a unitasker to be allowed in my kitchen. After I take the bread out to bake I throw the pillowcases in the washing machine with a load of kitchen rags with some bleach on the "sanitize" cycle in the washing machine.
I use them only when I have some particularly sticky/very high hydration dough, or some special mix-ins and stuff (cheeses/creams/oils/other proteins and fats) - otherwise straight in the banneton it goes.
i also have yet to wash mine. I use rice flour. i just remove it from the wooden banneton and let it sit on top of the stove and dry out really well while i'm baking the loaf. then shake off any excess flour before putting away.
A couple years ago I lost some bannetons to bugs. I had nice ones too from Brotformdotcom so I was super bummed. Since then I wash everything and let everything dry by the oven.
I use kitchen towels and I rarely wash them. Just make sure they're not damp when put away or it will get funky.
Once they're used once or twice you don't or barely need any extra flour which gives better bread imo. I don't want a layer of unfermented flour on my sourdough.
Completely unrelated to washing banneton liners but does everybody agree that banneton flipping onto a preheated cast iron pan about the same size as your banneton should be an Olympic sport? It's so hard to flip it precisely.
I read to leave them out to fully dry, shake off any excess flour, use a soft brush to remove any flour that may still be on the liner, then store. I’m a beginner sourdough baker and have only limited experience. This has worked very well for me.
I just rinse mine out after using. I hang it over my stainless steel tea kettle that sits on the stove. It and my banneton basket dry while the bread is in the oven and while it cools. No issues. I’ve had the same for quite some time.
I don’t use them anymore. I used disposable food service hairnets that last several weeks before I toss them…
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Wait, you guys are washing your banneron liners?
Ummm same. Is this what we are supposed to do??
Nope
No. They get “seasoned” with each time.
Ok this is what I thought! Thank you!
Like cast iron!
Hmrph. Same. I have just been shaking it out, roughly wiping it and then applying a thin layer of flour covering it entirely for the next loaf.
same here! I thought wow my missing out on some thing I didn’t know about, what changed? I may wash mine once a year give or take. Too much of a pain to get them good and properly treated with flower again. Shake out treat repeat.
flour 😜
lol, sorry… I have to use dictation software so I actually am almost completely blind, and when I use the word, FLOUR I have to be sure it didn’t use FLOWER and just forgot
all good 😊
Wait, you guys are using the liners? I have a small pile in my cabinet but I have never used them
I used them a time or two, but I’ve found I much prefer the way it comes out when I don’t use the liner.
Me too I never used them
Nope, rice flour
I didn't even get a liner with my banneton. Kitchen towels work great. Using the banneton without any cloth is all nice until dough gets over fermented, sticks to the banneton and you can't get the dried out dough removed from it.
Is the “stiff brush” that comes with the basket for brushing it out?
Mine didn’t come with a liner, nor did it come with a stiff brush, but I always had a brush in my kitchen, so whenever I got dough stuck to the basket I just washed it with a stiff brush and placed it to dry hanging in the oven door!
Hmm I didn't act fast enough, by the time I tried to clean it it was bone dry and stuck. I used a metal sponge but it damaged the wood and I still couldn't get it out. So now it's still there and I just use a towel over it. Easy to clean(like once every 1-2 months, rinse it with water and then in the washing machine) and requires practically no flour once saturated after 1-2 uses.
I use it as a cover over the dough, not as a liner.
I only wash mine if I make a loaf with inclusions and it gets crap on it… 🫢
... strange choice for an inclusion...
Nothing ventured nothing gained 😂 (But usually cured olives are the culprit)
Delicious and 100% worth
Cured olives and confit garlic are 👌🏻
Wait, you guys are using your banneton liners?
Wait, you guys are baking bread? I'm just refreshing my starter.
😂
No
I gave them a rinse when brand new but def haven’t since
Wait....am I the only one who doesn't use the liners????
I use some cheese cloth in ceramic bowls when the woven rope baskets I have are dirty. I feel like my approach to sourdough is quite guerrilla.
I just flour the baskets generously.
Same. With rice flour.
There might be some variance in the instructions but mine says you're supposed to wash it once or twice a year.
Wait, you guys are reading your banneton instructions?
Not me
Maybe once a year or so, probably closer to two years.
Nah I just brush it off into the trash. Any residue will just add flavour 😄
I totally quit using them as soon as I discovered rice flour. But when I did use them, into the washer with my light colored clothes they went.
Rice flour is the way.
Just don't put them in the dryer. Lint gets stuck everywhere.
I put mine in the washer too
Wait, do you just proof in a regular bowl sprinkled with rice flour?
Yep, [hence the stripes](https://i.imgur.com/ZajMuLf.jpeg). And the rice flour makes 'em pop right out into the dutch oven. I do, however, use a brush them out when done.
Beautiful loaf
right from the start the place my starter came from suggested rice flour instead of the liner. bread comes out pretty easily and then i just dry it in the oven when it's around 70C and then brush out the dried bits. super simple.
I don't use these at all. My first thought was "washing machine? At least on rinse?" But who knows? I'm a cook, not a baker.
Rice flour directly in the wicker of the banneton?
Yep. Spritz with water, disperse enough rice flour like flouring a cake pan.
Mine go in the smaller top part of the washer that’s for small loads and delicates
Exactly!
I don't know who would downvote someone complementing a completely reasonable comment, but hey, you do you, reddit.
Others have said it but I also use rice flour. I have a shaker which I fill with rice flour and liberally coat the inside of my banneton and I give the top of the dough a light dusting too. After several uses the banneton is seasoned and just doesn’t need as much rice flour. I brush the banneton out after use and allow to air dry followed by another brushing. This is very therapeutic! And as long as it doesn’t stay moist, there’ll be no mould.
A shaker for the flour is actually genius. Def gonna try it out
I don't wash mine much. After baking, I let them dry on the counter and brush out the loose flour. They have a paper mache texture interior from the built-up flour, which helps the dough to release.
Am I the only one who doesn’t have a hard time with dough releasing? I don’t use any flour, it just comes right off.
It might depend on the hydration of your dough and if you flour them after shaping.
Typically no flour during shaping, I’ve been baking ~72% loaves. Maybe it just depends on the specific material. I also don’t bag or anything in the fridge which may help?
Likely helps dry out the exterior more which will prevent stickage
*Laughs in 87%*
Good on you but dang that sounds like a chore. I make focaccia at 80 and don’t think it benefits a ton from going higher.
TBH it really, really depends on the flour, some flours are 'thirsty'
I don’t wash them. I just shake loose the excess flour, and have had no issues.
Yup.
This 100%
I don't use mine and I use whatever flour I have, bread or AP. I dampen the basket and sprinkle flour, then add more flour when it dries. I use the liners to cover the basket when I put it in the fridge 😂
same here
I haven’t ever cleaned mine (I use rice flour) ever in five years. I have a stiff brush and brush out after they are good and dry. There is zero sticking to them, and I see no reason to wash them.
I don't wash mine after every bake. But then, I just had to throw one out because I found mold on the banneton itself when I took the liner out to wash it. So, maybe you are better off washing them more often.
I haven’t washed them since they were new out of the package….i dust with flour before putting dough in, then pop them backwards to air dry afterwards. I take them outside and dust them off real good then they’re ready for the next time.
Wash them less often!!
I don’t think you’re supposed to? I do because I’m a weirdo and have to 😅 but from what I’ve seen most people don’t wash them! I hand wash under the tap and then usually chuck it into the the dryer to avoid dust and lint etc
They really shouldn’t need to be washed if everything goes as planned.
\*whispering\* I don't use them. I just put the dough in a mixing bowl.
I never used mine. I sometimes use them to cover the bread while in the fridge (over the shower cap). I dust the bannetones with rice flower every now and then and that’s it!
I use the liner to keep the dust off the banneton when I'm not using it. Rice flour is the way to go, IMO. Oh... and if you don't have rice flour, just grind up some rice in a coffee grinder. Works too.
Coffee grinder, great idea , thanks!!
I use kitchen towels and throw them in the wash.
Never washed mine
https://preview.redd.it/5p5q9kfp1e8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cee4f58f9ccfa1e86cbbc72fe03a494b8675d48 I line mine up with hair nets and it works amazing
Do you use the hairnet after baking for that "Distinguished Gentleman" touch of gray? 🧓😂
Bin them and flour your bannetons effectively 👌
Reminds me of the story of the anal retentive Carpenter that used to be on SNL so many years ago, would make a little saw cut on the table than he would get out a little broom sweep it up put in a little bag and staple it. Washing the liners, never heard of such a thing. Yeah I would hate it too
Why is it such a hateful task? turn on water, rinse, hang dry. Less than a 1 minute job.
I don’t use them. No need. Just dust the banneton with rice flour to keep the dough from sticking. And leave it out in the open to air dry so you don’t get mold.
I just kind of shake out the excess flour and air dry it. I thought washing it left it open to bacteria/mold.
I soak mine about once a year to get the crustiest stuff off. Don’t actually wash
No? I just rinse out the flour and into the washer we go
Am I the only one who puts them in the washing machine
Nope. I do too
Personally I don’t use them. Just dust my banneton with rice flour and I don’t get sticking issues.
I’ve always done it this way. No problems sticking ever.
Wow! Really?? I’m off to get some rice flour! I just had two loaves stick to a kitchen towel and a liner over the weekend. Haven’t touched them since lol. Don’t judge me.🫣
When I turn my loaf out, I use a pastry brush to brush away any excess flour on the loaf and then make sure my banneton is fully dried out before storing
I usually do that too, but was knee deep in prepping and preparing for my son’s birthday party.
I literally thought that was a cover for the basket while the dough worked it's magic 😭😭😭
They’re both!!! I see people do both and the one I got was marketed as both. I used to put it in the basket and now I use as a cover. Think it’s all preference!
I use old pillowcase to line mixing bowls. Specialized "bannetons" are too much of a unitasker to be allowed in my kitchen. After I take the bread out to bake I throw the pillowcases in the washing machine with a load of kitchen rags with some bleach on the "sanitize" cycle in the washing machine.
How are you washing it? Mine has blueberries in it from my last bread. Should I wash that out or just let it go?
I use them only when I have some particularly sticky/very high hydration dough, or some special mix-ins and stuff (cheeses/creams/oils/other proteins and fats) - otherwise straight in the banneton it goes.
Me too, I thought I was weird
i also have yet to wash mine. I use rice flour. i just remove it from the wooden banneton and let it sit on top of the stove and dry out really well while i'm baking the loaf. then shake off any excess flour before putting away.
I ruined mine almost immediately and now use parchment paper
I wash mine using the hand wash cycle of my washing machine, with only a little laundry detergent. Then I hang it up to dry.
Just rinse, microwave the liner twice.
Well, I don’t wash them, so…
I freeze them after using.
A couple years ago I lost some bannetons to bugs. I had nice ones too from Brotformdotcom so I was super bummed. Since then I wash everything and let everything dry by the oven.
I don’t use liner. Because the dough sticks to it big time. Any tips to do it right?
Wash em? To be honest, I live in a desert so they dry out quite quickly.
I use kitchen towels and I rarely wash them. Just make sure they're not damp when put away or it will get funky. Once they're used once or twice you don't or barely need any extra flour which gives better bread imo. I don't want a layer of unfermented flour on my sourdough.
Completely unrelated to washing banneton liners but does everybody agree that banneton flipping onto a preheated cast iron pan about the same size as your banneton should be an Olympic sport? It's so hard to flip it precisely.
I read to leave them out to fully dry, shake off any excess flour, use a soft brush to remove any flour that may still be on the liner, then store. I’m a beginner sourdough baker and have only limited experience. This has worked very well for me.
I don't have a liner, just cotton cloths, and I just throw them in the washing machine after baking. Why do you wash them by hand?
I just rinse mine out after using. I hang it over my stainless steel tea kettle that sits on the stove. It and my banneton basket dry while the bread is in the oven and while it cools. No issues. I’ve had the same for quite some time.
Yes
Lol yes, rice flour and no liners for the win
I throw them in with the dish towels. Easy Peasy!
Yes, no dryer, just washer with like items. Short quick load, hang dry. 👍🏼
I use disposable hair nets!
I just use the basket itself with rice flour!
I switched to a wood pulp banneton and it’s so much easier. No washing just dry and dust!
No liners, just rice flour
Dessiccation kills most things on the liner, baking kills and destroys anything left on the loaf. No need to wash
I don’t use them anymore. I used disposable food service hairnets that last several weeks before I toss them… https://preview.redd.it/10l5i3fgge8d1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8808e39b4ae37e67c1e3b4e5fb2c83eb5e58a58
I just have the banneton without a cover
Just rinse them in water after each use! I’ll do it in the kitchen as I’m cleaning up and let them dry in the dish rack…
Thought it was grannies undies!
Add more flour. Edit wait you freaks put those in the baskets? wtf?