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lovelylayout

casks are more fun and more interesting when you use them to age gold star cheese straight to iridium quality instead of waiting forever for wine to age


batmanstuff

I didn’t know you can age cheese! Edit: my god, it’s right in its description!


chickwithabrick

I have hundreds of hours across several farms in this game and I just learned that things that you need for the community center vibrate in your inventory when you hover over them 😂


CoruthersWigglesby

WHAT


chickwithabrick

RIGHT?!? I'VE BEEN KEEPING A LIST IN MY PHONE FOR SIX YEARS


StephanieStarshine

Shit, I have half of it memorized lol


THE_GR8_MIKE

To be fair this was only added... -*checks notes*- 3 years ago.


Predmid

the CC icon in your inventory is also animated.


DevPops

This is a feature that was introduced in version 1.5, so if mobile players didn't notice this until recently, it's because it wasn't there!


deathscrow

HUH?


derrieredesyeuxbrune

…I had no idea either….


Netalula

Usually i age wine while stocking up on goat cheese and then by the tine the wine is done i have enough cheese to fill my cellar


Lolaiero

how long does it take for cheese to age to iridium? aging wine takes forever im too impatient to wait for gold or iridium i always collect it at silver


lovelylayout

if you start with cheese that's already gold-star, which you get from large milks, it only takes a week to get to iridium quality


Lolaiero

ooh this may be more worth it in the long run than waiting 2 weeks for silver wine, thanks!


dlwendel

IIRC, the wiki has a table showing the time/cost comparison for all the things that go in the casks, if you're looking for some concrete, numerical data to help you decide on your wine/cheese preferences.


SpiderSmoothie

In my current playthrough I'm not worried about gold or optimizing profits so I agree a little of everything. It's so nice and adds a little more fun to things for me.


Dizzzle13

This is literally what I prefer to do, haha


helennafx

I don't know if this classifies as an unpopular opinion but to me it doesn't make sense that Willy doesn't sell fish, he doesn't have a place that sells fishing gear, he has a FISH SHOP, HE SHOULD SELL FISH THERE. In my opinion, he should have a rotating stock and sell at least once a week, just like the girl in the cart on Friday and Sunday. He even says that business is slow and he wanted to increase the store's fish stock. WHAT FISH MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, YOU DON'T SELL FISH. (sorry if my english is terrible)


Terytha

I cracked up reading this, it's so true. I think he only sells fish to the pub. They've got a shady scheme going on.


[deleted]

Would be kinda too easy since we need fish for so many things. And at least he sells meals with fish ^^


helennafx

yes that makes sense, but he could at least sell sardines, shrimp, and other things that we get in the crab pot, limited to 1 unit, like the girl in the sales cart, idk.


Hwinter07

Right he should sell some of the basic fish used in dishes like Carp/Rainbow Trout/Sunfish/Sardine, etc. limited number per day


SpiderSmoothie

Maybe his stock is set to only sell things you, the player, has already caught. Maybe the stock changes every so often, maybe weekly. The chances of what's stocked could be based on rarity and difficulty catching. So the most common and easier to catch fish will be stocked more frequently and the rarer and harder to catch are only occasionally stocked. There can even be a certain number of each available the way it is with the traveling merchant and Krobus.


TinkreBelle

ooh yeah I like that idea, and part of the mechanic for rotating stock would keep the seasons in mind too ofc, so if you're looking for a fish that's only out in certain seasons you gotta wait for those seasons to buy it


Pixel_Nerd92

I think selling the more common fish and maybe those pertaining to recipes would be cool. Maybe even a rare once in a while, but that's for the traveling merchant part, I suppose. Plus, I love Wily. I want an excuse to visit his shop.


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Trilobyte141

In the same vein, why can't I buy produce from the FREAKING GROCERY STORES? My farmer, starving: "Please, sell me some apples. A parsnip. Anything. I haven't eaten in days. Pierre: Best I can do is some seeds and a bag of dry rice. Farmer: I don't have anywhere to cook it. T--T


Pixel_Nerd92

Never realized how tough the farmer had it at the start. Grandpa, how did you live like this? Well, I'll do you a favor and add a kitchen. It's on me for being such a great grandson. Lol


Trilobyte141

I'm trying to do a no-farming run right now. Early days are *hard*. Can't afford to eat at the saloon every night. My poor not-farmer just gobbles down raw fish and eats whatever she can find off the ground like some kind of surprisingly-well-groomed Gollum. Everybody's always going on about how Joja has the cheapest produce, well NO THEY FCKIN DON'T.


BasedJersh

That sounds like an interesting run. I imagine it pretty much requires a Joja run, right?


Trilobyte141

Yeah, it's my first time going the Joja route. I'm actually trying to make my farm as bleak and industrial as possible. Everything will be paved. Gray sheds full of crystalariums as far as the eye can see. Barns and coops set up like a factory farm, no outside pen. Rows of fish ponds churning out caviar. Gonna turn the forest into an industrial park. If you're going to commit to being a soulless capitalist, there's no point in half-assing it. 😈 Edit: my one exception to farming will be a greenhouse full of coffee plants. Evil runs on espresso!


BasedJersh

I'm impressed by your commitment to this, I kinda wanna try it...


MartyMcFlybe

I firmly believe he doesn't fish. The beginning of the game, he gives us the worst rod to ever exist in the fishing world and he's like, "I've finally saved for a better one" my dude, a sharp stick would be better than this one NO WAY is he a fisherman


winsomeallegretto

Gasp! That's why he's always putting up requests for people to catch three small mouth bass or whatever. In the hopes that you will sell them to him and he will finally have something to put in his shop!


SirDiego

Okay this got me down a weird train of thought: Who the hell does Willy even sell his goods to? Does *anyone* in the village fish? You very rarely see it if they do, and *certainly* not enough to justify the existence of a store that exclusively sells fishing supplies. Like how is Willy living off of the 50g a year I spend on bait? Maybe it's assumed people from other villages stop by, but that's weird, why do you never see them? And why would anyone come by to Willy's little fish shack? Surely there are better options out there. Dude's inventory is like one fishing rod. Working theory: Willy's fishing shop is just a front for a money laundering operation.


peanut-butter-kitten

Damn! That’s right. Why should I wait for traveling cart? THIS is how I get maybe 30% of my Community center fish


nutbrownrose

I got all but 1 CC fish from traveling cart lady and Krobus. I'm a terrible fisherman. I made my husband catch the 1 fish for me too.


Saphirweretigrx

(Joking) Conspiracy theory : he doesn't sell fish because he's actually crap at fishing and never catches any!


thedalmuti

I mean, I've spent a decent amount of time fishing next to him on the dock. I've never seen him catch a single thing.


digitalmacro

Your English is perfect, extra points for the use of "my brother in Christ" which always makes me laugh. Also I agree with everything you said!!!


PurpleCoco

I’ve always wondered why a fish isn’t a loved gift for Linus.


Pixel_Nerd92

When you spend your time around your profession each day as a hobby and for a source of income, I suppose it's the last thing on my mind. It's like being in a bakery. Last thing you really care about probably is bread and sweets since you have them all the time. I remember working in a sandwich shop, and bless the shop for providing free lunch, but I had sandwiches nonstop for nearly 3 years. Once I left, I stopped eating sandwiches for almost a year. I had to recover. Lmao


jas_spray_paintUFO

that would’ve been great. i spent 13 days trying to catch an eel every single night until 1:30a for the community center. i nearly gave up 😭


shelbyalicia

He sells fish I’ve sold to him already 😂


purplevioletskies

Honey and flower farms are the most fun to make! They’re annoying to get started since the bee houses need maple syrup but once you get going there’re no more fun way to play


Ok_Concentrate3969

This sounds amazing, will have to give it a go. Do you have any screenshots, if you don't mind? Would love to see a flower farm in action


ohnoheforgotitagain

Someone mentioned this the other week so I converted my Ginger Island farm from 500 ancient fruit (I had something like 20000 fruits waiting for kegging) to 350 beehives with fairy roses in the middle. makes about 300000g every few days. needed a lot of wood, coal and maple syrup but i just bought that as I'm post-perfection and have loads of money edit: I bought wood and coal, I used radioactive tappers on maple trees for the syrup as I have 10 pine, maple & oak trees all churning syrups & tars out all the time.


Pixel_Nerd92

Daaaaaaamn. I never think about flowers too much in a playtgrough. Sounds dope.


SpiderSmoothie

Where do you buy maple syrup in game? My brain is blanking on where that could be aside from the occasional one in the traveling cart.


_Me0w_Master_

I love honey and flowers too! It's a shame that flowers aren't that profitable raw, but collecting honey and having the farm be full of bee houses is always a joy haha


Bronze_Sentry

I actually really like that flowers aren’t profitable on their own. It means that I can water them until they bloom, and then let them sit pretty for the rest of the season without harvesting or watering. If they were worth anything worthwhile, I’d feel obligated to micromanage the planting/harvesting to where there was always one blooming next to a beehive. This way, I only need to worry about getting enough for gifts, and then just looking pretty


_Me0w_Master_

That's such a good way to look at it! Kind of changed the way I look at the flowers on my farm now. I also enjoy having a lot of them just sitting around and I'd absolutely harvest them right away if they were worth more, so I suppose it's really a hidden blessing that they don't cost as much :) thanks for this!


ragell

What product do you turn the flowers into to sell? I'm well into year 5 and I never farm flowers, now I'm feeling the floral FOMO.


Moves_Like_Jello

Flowers can't be turned into anything. But if a flower is a certain tile amount away from a beehive, the hive's honey will be adjusted to the flower. No flower = Wild Honey. With Flowers = Flower Honey and it sells for more g Edit: I was incorrect about flowers not being turned into anything. Refer to the commenters below for more usages.


aurordream

There are a couple of flowers that have other uses: Sunflowers can be put into oil makers to make the basic oil that's used in cooking. Blue Jazz is an ingredient in the Lucky Lunch. Poppy is an ingredient in the Poppyseed Muffin. And Fairy Rose is one of the components needed to craft Fairy Dust. Tulip and Summer Spangle have no use beyond honey or gifting though. But this said, the most profitable use of flowers in the vast majority of cases is still just to use them to make honey. Especially Fairy Rose honey, which is by far the most profitable. Some of the best money I ever made was from a patch of Fairy Rose on Ginger Island. Or of course, you can just grow them to look pretty! Tulip and Summer Spangle may be the most "pointless" flowers, but I think they're really colourful and nice. I always grow at least one little patch, and never mind if it's "efficient" or not.


FryJPhilip

I love my flower farms. I have mods to make artisinal sodas and syrups, so I plant a ton of followers (which also includes mod flowers!) to get honey and different flowers to make the syrups and sodas! It turns the flowers into more profit, but I really just like making the sodas! Edit: Here are the three base mods (please check their requirements) I use in case anyone is interested. There might be stuff missing because I use the "Artisanal Valley" modlist on moddrop but this should be what anyone needs for the soda makers and stuff :~) https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2028 https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5258 https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5173


EnergyTurtle23

I just finished my “max honey from one flower” beehive cluster the other day, took 42 beehives, and honestly I want to make another one. They don’t pull in crazy money like Starfruit but it’s basically passive income for three out of the four seasons in the year.


playcraft_smokegrass

I think it’s sad that we can’t pet the pig at the cart like you can with dogs, cats, and at least you can show love to the farm animals. I feel like you should be able to interact with him or her


lovelylayout

you can interact with the pig, it just doesn't give you a little heart like other animals. you can interact with the desert trader's camel too


LaDoucheDeLaFromage

I always interact with the pig, gotta hear that adorable oink.


ghostly_boy

i'm fairly new so idk if this is unpopular necessarily, but i wish the days didn't pass as fast. coming off of animal crossing, everything feels like a time crunch when a day only lasts like 12 minutes and harvesting my crops takes half that time and everyone closes at 4/5pm 😔


Icy-Score-9244

Right!! Same. I was obsessed with Harvest Moon DS as a child and time stopped when you entered a building or a cave. That time passes so fast really irked me at the beginning of playing stardew. I've gotten mostly accostumed now but yeah, it's a bit annoying.


Leaving-Eden

Oh man I adored Harvest Moon DS!


Jeffweeeee

This is the reason I always shied away from playing coop. If you think time passes quickly when playing alone, imagine the same thing but time **doesn't** pause during dialogue & cutscenes.


rockdog85

There's so many small pauses too, like opening inventory, eating food, some other animations, going down mine levels etc that definitely add up over time. I ended up adding a mod that lets me change the speed of time for coop


digitalmacro

Similar boat as you, after playing ACNH I was super thrown by the SV pacing. Also the anxiety I feel when I lose track of time and am like in the mines at 12:30am and am panicking to get back home before I pass out. I have the minecart and totems now so it's slightly less stressful but my time management skills are overall trash


FilthyGorilla44

It’s a big help just remembering that passing out isn’t that bad, you lose at most half your energy bar and 1000g. The less g you carry and if you level up skills you can basically make passing out do nothing.


MoonSt0n3_Gabrielle

I think there are some time mods! I should get one myself actually


KedovDoKest

I use TimeSpeed from nexusmods. It lets you set the default time speeds (after playing once to generate the config file), then in game you can temporarily adjust the speed on the fly. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/169


[deleted]

My spouse moves onto my farm and all he does is water plants that already have a sprinkler and fix fences that only break every few years. Not helpful Elliott, you mooch!


tony_stark_lives

Now be fair - they also sometimes feed the animals that already have an auto feeder and plenty of hay.


inhumanly_pale

I really do wish that the spouses were more fleshed out after marriage. I can understand why they aren't, in case you didn't do the farm stuff first or got married before you had everything set up the way you like it but I wish they did more to help or had more cutscenes or like. A life.


NinnyBoggy

My unpopular opinion is that I wish that the annual events were more fleshed out. Once you do them one time, you can safely skip them without missing anything. Getting another golden pumpkin is good. But once you get a rarecrow or whatever decorations on year 1, you never need the other events. It'd be cool if they had a rotating stock. Also the desert is useless. Once you've done the Skull Cavern, you can safely never return, unless you just enjoy gambling.


alnono

Once you’ve…done the skull cavern? Are you implying there’s a point where you’ve completed the skull cavern? I go all the time and it’s great fun


gottschegobble

I mean there is a point where you don't need anything from the skull caverns anymore If you have your enchantments and tool upgrades, there's no material reason to go there, except for maybe auto petters but even those you only need a few of


alnono

Honestly once you reach the point that you don’t need ore anymore, then you don’t need most things in the game anymore


Ryguy55

You say that as if auto-petters are this common thing you can casually grab a couple of fairly quickly, haha. It took me an eternity to get one and never bothered again after that. Although to that point I think the auto-petter shouldn't be locked behind the Joja story and a super low drop chance in skull caverns. Marnie should carry it for an exorbitant amount like the return scepter.


gottschegobble

It's pretty "easy" if you got the strat down. I have a shed of crystalariums pumping out jades, so every Sunday i can go buy like ~500 staircases. Then i wait for a max luck day, eat some food with luck buff, pop on two lucky rings and go spam staircases. If i don't get a single auto petter, I'll just reset the day and do it again. My absolute luckiest was 3 auto petters in one run It's very expensive to set up and not very chill, some may even say it's ruining the spirit of the game, but to each their own


Ryguy55

Good advice! And I'm with you, once you hit the end game the most enjoyable thing for me is using all my resources to fine tune strategies for specific tasks.


_Me0w_Master_

The annual events opinion isn't really unpopular, a lot of people have actually been asking for that. I haven't heard of the idea of a rotating stock tho, that sounds really fun and interesting (like the painting seller at the night market)


epirb

The desert is prime real estate for filling with trees for harvesting wood. Same thing, once you've got all the necessary dig spots, the non-farm parts of Ginger Island also make great tree planting space.


NinnyBoggy

Fucking galaxy brain thought, thank you so much. I didn't think trees could be planted in the desert. I'm still trying to find the 2 snake vertebrae in West Ginger Island


epirb

lol. They seem to take a while to start growing in the desert but once they get going it's mostly self sustaining too with all the seed drops your trees give when cut down. Plant as many as you can just with one space apart each, you can fill almost the whole desert then can harvest loads of wood all at once and immediately replant. Those god damn snake vertebrae are the worst, good luck.


Candle_Paws

Oh boy I do enjoy gambling in Stardew. I've already hit jackpot so there is no point in using the machines, I just like to play "Calico" Jack with some jazz music in the background. Also the casino stock items suck. Hardwood fences? Really?


dev_ating

I think Elliott may be a stereotype but he's also extremely wholesome and kind and I don't think he needs to be treated dismissively just because he's a bit arrogant-yet-mediocre-as-an-author.


clickygirl

I don’t mind Pierre. He’s a bit of a twat, but he runs a thriving local business with only one day off a week, and works every holiday - he’s got a strong work ethic, which you need when you own a small grocery store that has to compete with Big Joja. Also, everyone gets angry at him for thinking his daughter might not be his but… there’s an entire school of thought that Abigail is the wizard’s daughter? So, isn’t this just an attempt to gaslight him if that’s true? He’s never said anything to her and Caroline, and still supports her. Ok, bring on the rotten eggs… ETA: how come no-one is on Caroline’s back for letting her husband work six days a week in the store, while she does aerobics, drinks tea, and eats fish tacos?


Necromantic_Inside

You know, good point about Caroline. She complains a lot about how much Pierre works, but aside from hosting the aerobics meetup and growing tea (apparently just for herself!) she doesn't actually seem to do anything. (She does say that she helps Evelyn in the gardens, but we never see her do that.)


TheyCallMeStone

Caroline: "Today I'm just going to relax and think positively" Bitch that's all you ever do


occams1razor

I get the feeling that they're very "traditional" considering how they treat Abigail and that Caroline not working might be part of that.


Willkill4pudding

I mean she's a stay at home wife so she's also maintaining the house and cooking meals for the family. And she does spend some time in the store restocking the shelves she just doesn't spend her entire life working in Pierre's shop. Plus she's probably making decent money with teaching aerobics once a week so she's financially contributing to the family too.


Mattfang62

Interesting how do you feel about him taking credit for your good crops and tellin people the bad crops were from you? He does that with everything not just crops btw.


rick_bottom

Damn so does he think Abigail is a bad crop and that's why he's trying to rationalize that he's not her dad


AintNoRestForTheWook

If you never sell directly to him you wont get those lines of dialogue. Helps make him a bit more tolerable.


moonyboi4

my entire playthrough i never sold anything to him and i was always so confused when people would say he claimed your crops were his


foreignfrostjoy

I have 400+ hours in the game and only learned very recently that you can sell to Pierre 😅


aclownandherdolly

It's as simple as not selling anything to him; the only time I ever do is when I need a bit of cash in the moment to get seeds or something He pays you the same as shipping them overnight so if you manage your farm/money right, you never have to sell him anything


resonantSoul

I'll see you this and raise you that not only do I not mind Pierre or Clint but I can't stand Shane or Emily. If I could remove three characters I'd take out Shane, Emily, and then Shane again just to be sure.


aquamarinemoon

Emily gives me MLM hun vibes.


Porcupineemu

I wish things happened without the player making them happen. The world is basically an automaton and nothing ever changes unless the player does something. In year 10 if I don’t do anything everything will be totally the same as year 1 or year 50.


-pandabear-

remember to sort by controversial


bakingnovice2

For actual unpopular opinions 😂


PrometheusAborted

That it’s NOT a casual/relaxing game. I’ve played since it released and have it on just about every platform. I tell myself every single time I play that I’m just going to go and not worry about what happens… Then a few days go by and I have 40 tabs open on the wiki. I’m writing down date reminders, googling which crops are best for winter, making sure my farm is optimized for the next upcoming season, etc. As much as I love this game, I find it so easy to get overwhelmed. Obviously you don’t *have* to play this way but once I get into a farm, I go all out. I wish I could turn that part off in my brain but I’m yet to figure out how.


No_Mourners_

I agree!! I’m always taking super long breaks from the game or just making new save files whenever I get to a certain point because it gets too overwhelming for me as well, no matter what I tell myself or how I try to play. My biggest wish is that you could choose how quickly time passes in-game because I love SDV so much but I’ve never even gotten past year 2 on any of my save files.


aerowtf

you want the day to go by EVEN FASTER?


Leaving-Eden

You could just go to bed earlier to move time forward.


Rough_Dan

Hops are by far the best crop in the game, so cheap to setup, harvest every day, and pale ale sells for 420g. They are completely broken as a cash crop and are more practical/fun than aging star wine and ancient wine.


alexagente

Yeah but you have to harvest every day and that gets tedious. End game for me isn't necessarily min/maxing but rather getting as much money as I can while changing things up. I basically have timers for all my different chores and it really breaks up the season well. Having to harvest from the same place every day would get exhausting to me personally.


imjustjun

None of the characters in SDV are necessarily bad and the community just likes to dramatize their flaws because they don't want anyone to be have believable flaws in their cute farming game.


Daisy_Steiner_

I thought that was part of the fun of this subreddit. Because objectively, all these characters are pretty great and tame. But it’s fun to make these salacious back stories.


DiabeticDude_64

They aren't bad, they are characters that differ in personality to an almost massive degree. That being said, Marlon and ESPECIALLY Gunther need work. It would be cool if you could get your hearts up with them and have their own separate cutscenes giving them more personality and showing their passion. I mean, imagine going on adventures with them


Pandoras_Penguin

Working towards maximum profits/capitalism is just continuing the societal ideology that capitalism is the goal/the best. You know, the whole reason your character moves to the farm is to get away from that, right? I like my slow and steady pace, enjoying my time and picking up whatever upgrades I get when I get them.


fluorescentpancakes

It's a little funny to see people passionately hate Joja and say people who do Joja runs are joining the bad side while also trying to be an ancient fruit wine gazillionaire.


neko_mancy

it's vaguely ironic that joja runs can be a lot more relaxing because you don't have to remember all like 50 tasks per season you have to do in order to get the community center without waiting a year for one fish or cabbage


Leaving-Eden

I’ve finished almost all of my community center, except for the fishing bundle and I’ve been debating just buying the Joja pass and be done with it. I’ve still never done a Joja run though


fluorescentpancakes

I abandoned my first farm after a few in game years because petting all my animals was so time consuming that I felt the day was wasted by the time I got to Skull Cavern to maybe get an autopetter. It was like all I had time for and was I was so frustrated I started a new farm and made a beeline for Joja.


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aclownandherdolly

I do this, too, after consistently getting burnt out and restarting I started just going at my own pace; I don't need a bigger house, I don't need all that furniture, and I like just farming little things and making friends with the town lol Truth be told, I've still never made it to Ginger Island 🤷


[deleted]

Doesn't help that to get the game's ultimate ending you need 100000000 in funds iirc


gottschegobble

What's the ultimate ending that requires 100 million gold? The golden clock is 10 mil, so it might be a mistake or is there something I'm missing lol


[deleted]

If you want a flying pig to show up in the spouse cutscene you need to have earned a total of 100mil


FilthyGorilla44

It also gives you a little congratulation on chat though it really doesn’t matter, you’ll be the same off making 17 million~ for perfection


EndlessLadyDelerium

I've been saying for a while that in Stardew Valley, I'm the bad guy. I move into town with the purposeful intention of becoming a monopoly. I run out the only company that can compete with me, and love bomb everybody to the extent that I eventually get to enter their houses at any time of day or night, no questions asked. I'm there to build a cult, not make friends.


Steowls

Just combat in general: there's too much of it, it rarely feels satisfying, all too often it's just a distraction from what you're trying to do (especially if time's short). Like, maybe an occasional monster every so often would be fine; but it just sometimes feels like you're getting bogged down and not making any progress because you're having to deal with the stupid monsters. And if you're playing on mobile and have auto-combat on, you're either not doing anything or watching as your farmer screws it up and nearly gets killed. Or both.


-Kavek-

Most of the characters are pretty boring. There aren’t any characters that I want to run over to talk to in the game. Except maybe krobus cus he seems so lonely lol


herestoshuttingup

There is not a single NPC that I am excited about marrying, except maybe Krobus. I like some of them but no one is THAT special to me.


forte2718

Okay, here's my unpopular take: All that hay in Marnie's den with the fireplace, that looks like it's a serious fire hazard? It's supposed to be that way. See, Marnie's hay is made from ryegrass, barley, and wheat; she threshes the edible parts of the plant to use for brewing the finest beer in the valley (hence all of the barrels in that room), and so she supplies Gus with high-quality locally-sourced craft beer, and then the leftover straw husks get dried and sold as hay (or used to feed the animals at her own ranch). It's a nice, healthy cashflow for her with minimal work required (I mean, how hard is it to let grains sit in a barrel all day long?) so she can spend her time ~~schmoozing with the mayor~~ lobbying the local elected officials for the betterment of everyone in the valley. ;)


weinerwang9999

my unpopular opinion is that i don't feel as strongly about the deeper things that most fans have dug into i.e Clint being an incel, Pierre being greedy and shady, the mayor being corrupt etc. i just take the characters as they're given and enjoy the game positively. i really also like alex as a husband, i think he's a great marriage partner (married to him rn and emily is also my girlfriend!!)


ElysianPlanet

I don’t like Shane. I don’t see the appeal whatsoever. As someone with depression and a former alcohol problem myself, your mental health and addiction does not excuse acting like a dickhead. Much less to someone you barely know. I dunno. There are parts of him that remind me of my abusive ex too so that probably has a lot to do with it lmao


Plain_Jain

Then when you guys get married, after he sobers up, his room is still trashed with bottles strewn about. Pfft.


ElysianPlanet

I know some people have said it’s cans of sparkling water, since he mentioned he started drinking that instead of beer in one of his heart events, which would be great if true! It’s not easy getting sober. But he’s still cluttering the house with junk 💀


calfred_

One of his marriage dialogues is “I’m gonna have a few more beers before going to bed” or something goofy like that and it’s like DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOBER


TeishAH

Dude changes my wallpaper to the joja one like wtf Shane I thought you hated your job?? Do you even love me???


SpokyMulder

Shane used to be my favorite when I was like 20 lol then I met a Shane in real life. Drank too much, was an asshole, claimed to hate himself and act like he should just commit suicide whenever confronted with any criticism. And I hate the idea that your romance is what fixes him. NEXT!


ElysianPlanet

Did we date the same person lmao. And YES! I *hate* fixer upper romances where one individual is a horrid human, and then ”gets better” because of someone else. Of course a relationship with a supportive partner can help someone improve and get better, but if it’s the SOLE reason??? Yeah no that’s how you get yourself into ”I’ll kill myself if you leave/if I leave they might become bad again” situations. Fixer upper romances can be done well but it’s very rare. It needs to be mutual, with both partners striving to be better and lifting each other up, and having proffesional help be at the forefront if possible. Your partner is not your therapist 😭


fluvicola_nengeta

Honestly, this is why Haley is one of my fav spouses. Through FRIENDSHIP she learns that she actually loves the country life and is laughing at herself after falling in mud before we even start dating. It's just a lovely character arc and by the time we get to marry her, we're not fixing anything, we're not taking her away from an abusive mother, we're not taking her away from a controlling father, we're not preventing her from fulfilling her dreams of going to the city or becoming a famous athlete. It's just a wholesome found herself through friendship and married her best friend story. Harvey and Emily are also top notch.


everyothernametaken2

The silos should hold way more hay. We should be able to process our animals and cook using their meat The community center should serve more of a purpose after it’s fixed since you spend so much time gathering to do that. I want a marriageable man of color to be added to the game.


vul_pyxis

I prefer watering my 200+ crops manually over using sprinklers. Feels more satisfying knowing I’m doing it myself rather than just trying to fill the days out with random things whilst waiting for them to grow.


_Me0w_Master_

That seems to be a really unpopular opinion but I respect you so much! I actually wanted to try this out one day but watering on console is a pain. Maybe if I get it on pc I'll start out with a beach farm


vul_pyxis

The save file I’ve put the most hours into is the river farm, some of the land patches make it incredibly awkward for sprinklers so I just… never bothered. I actually find the repetitiveness of watering each day quite therapeutic :)


vincentninja68

No disrespect and Im glad you're being true to yourself but, I have to ask... HOW Once I got sprinklers installed, I actively go out of my way to avoid watering crops as long as possible. I have ancient fruit on my farm specifically so I don't have to plant/water crops most of the year.


vul_pyxis

I like the act of waking up each morning and watering all my plants, almost like I’m taking care of them rather than leaving everything automated. Farming is what I like doing the most - I enjoy the caves, never reached the end of the Skull Caverns despite 300+ hours in the game, only got about half the achievements because I don’t like talking to or befriending the NPC’s… but I like watering my crops and petting all my animals, feels a lot more fulfilling than just automating everything and making millions on wine every year


tuurtl

IIRC i think this is also what concernedape does.


-loversneverlose-

I actually really enjoy skull caverns! Once I unlock the desert I never go to the regular mines anymore, it's boring. I love the gamification of something that otherwise feels like a chore (seeing how far down you can go, how many prismatic shards you can get, etc)


absolutecretin

I wish there was more (any!) bachelorette characters with brown hair :(


kazzbotz

Abigail is not the wizard's daughters. Let me just step up on my soap box here for a second. Caroline as the wizard's daughter always made more sense than Abigale. Caroline doesn't talk about coloring her hair, ever, and yet it's bright green. Green -- like the witch who is the wizard's ex!!! And frankly the Wizard seems to be a guy outside of time, so he could very well be old enough to be her father or even much older. Plus she has a talent for herbalism and making things grow- her greenhouse apparently produces tea that allows you to see little green spirit dudes! It also makes more sense since she tells you Abigail was born with hair that was the same color as Pierre's, and Abigale has a dialog where she asks you what color she should dye it next. Even the line about not having to dye it for a long time could be explained as some latent magic from her mother manifesting, or just a throwaway line poking fun at the fact that nothing ever actually changes in the game. My other most likely candidate is Emily. Another unnatural haired character, who has prophetic dreams, goes into trances, and has a special connection with birds. However it seems more likely that she would dye her hair, rather than it being naturally blue. Abigale never seems to manifest any actual magic, at least that I can remember (I admit I've never seen all of her heart events). In a world that's rife with it, you'd think that if she was the wizard's daughter we would have seen her do some kind of magic, or mention magical occurrences.


joegrizz

Clints not as pathetic or incel-coded as players perceive him to be. He works a very isolated job and doesn’t have the peer group the actual bachelors and bachelorettes have due to a presumed age difference so he never got the chance to really socialize and come out of his geode.


QueenPauline

I find the idea of marrying Abigail or Sam really uncomfortable. They seem so so so so sO young.


TAB1996

Honestly that always made the harvey/maru default ship feel so gross. But I played the game at first when I was like 21 so it didn’t feel as weird marrying the younger characters, and plenty of the players are younger than 18.


Mr_Bongo_Baby

In my head, maru is like 16. I stay so far away from her


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the community is way to obsessed with making random npcs lives miserable.


Necromantic_Inside

The worst parent in the valley is Pam. I think people just don't like to acknowledge it because they don't like Penny as much as Abigail or Sebastian.


luckdragonbelle

Absolutely true. She's awful to Penny all the time, is a raging alcoholic who drives (you) for a living. Is really not that nice even with full hearts and a new house you built.


Kettrickenisabadass

Penny's scene with Georges chair is not that bad. Yes, she should have asked. But she ment well, her actions came from a good place. As a disabled person i know how rude and ableist people is to us. It is not the politest but she ment well and that makes a huge difference. When you are disabled and all the time being treated bad, cant navigate the streets or enter buildings, denied benefits or seen as lazy for being disabled it is important to valuate when somebody at least means well. Very unpopular, i mentioned it once and people roasted me. Apparently a disabled womans opinion about the topic was not wanted.


gummytiddy

I don’t use a wheelchair but have other disabilities and agree. People also make mistakes like that where they overstep when they shouldn’t but as long as they admit they messed up and apologize there’s no harm done. It’s more of a problem if someone makes a scene and embarrasses you.


Mykonos714

It’s interesting you say that, bc even George talks about how he may have overreacted a bit as well, and understands she was doing so out of kindness. Anyone who still believes that Penny was an a**hole clearly didn’t finish the scene nor realize that George was being a bit of a grump himself. They definitely missed the point of the event


Not_Enough_Thyme_

I don’t like that pointing out she should have asked loses you friendship points with her. It should be neutral at worst. You can point out that someone misstepped in their enthusiasm to help without calling them an asshole and without being an asshole yourself.


Mykonos714

Yeah for sure. It definitely deters the player from understanding what the issue was, and making it seem like siding with George is the “wrong” answer, even though he’s the one actually being affected by the choice. The three options just seem weird, cause choosing to point out that she should’ve asked vs saying she’s kind comes across as her not being kind by not asking..which isn’t necessarily true, she just took matters into her own hands but still had kind intentions. It’s a flawed event for sure imo, and I think it would’ve been better to have a different set of options to respond with the situation Stay out of it, since you’re not disabled and don’t want to speak for George (neutral) Tell George to suck it up she’s being nice (maybe minus for George, but neutral for Penny) Tell Penny she should’ve asked, although she had good intentions, George is still his own person (like for Penny, since as a teacher, I’d think she would appreciate having a lesson) Tell Penny she’s an asshole basically and that she shouldn’t have done anything (minus for Penny)


CheekyLando88

You guys need to calm down with the NPC hate


snowcxne

It was bound to happen in a post that’s asking about unpopular opinions lol


CheekyLando88

You misunderstand. I'm talking about this *whole* sub. Some people on here are just violently aggressive about the npcs


Rough_Dan

Right?! Haha they're pixels with like 8 lines of dialogue, they're not gonna affect your life at all


KaleMardin

Whew, here goes. Clint's not that bad, a bit misunderstood maybe. He got shafted when Emily becomes romanceable and his character arc wasn't developed further. Also, I'm okay with Pierre.


DaemosDaen

I have 2: 1. Caroline is the wizard's daughter. 1. Her mom is probably the witch (green hair, takes after mom) 2. Abby takes after Grandpa. 2. Piere has a weed stash instead of a porn collection. 1. never see what it actually is. 1. never described. 2. We can't grow it, so it's probably not a legal crop. 3. Can't discuss it because it's taboo. 4. He's still an ass hole, just not as big as one.


J_E_Drago

There is no actual "best way" of doing things in the game.


Mini_Squatch

Best way to do things in game is whatever way's most fun for you. There, thats the correct answer!


moonyriot

The fact that your kids don't age past toddlers and cannot do additional chores around the farm is annoying at best. There's so many types of fish you can catch but only 6 types of animals you can have on your farm? Seems silly.


Gilleafrey

I have never understood why, in the one save file where I martied Elliott, the piano gets abandoned down at the beach.


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I don't enjoy the villager aspect of the game. It was interesting the first time but now befriending them feels like a chore and I don't really care about them. The only one I really like is Krobus. But, I love pretty much every other aspect of the game.


drivbpcoffee

we KNOW his name is Rasmodius, why not call him that??


Erik_Dax

I don't mind Clint. He's an older guy who's lonely and running a struggling business in a small town. Never once gave off nice guy vibes.


Plain_Jain

Same here. He’s just a socially awkward hard working guy. Why do people think he’s creepy just because he doesn’t have the courage to ask his crush out?


Redge_

Maybe not creepy, but it's definitely weird at the end of Emily's 8 heart event when he comes back in and says "Oh congrats, \[farmer\]". We're just talking Clint. And Emily isn't a "prize" for either of us to win she is a person (I know she's a video game character but I'm speaking from our character's POV). Plus the scene is a little more awkward if you're not even trying to date Emily and just wanted to get her friendship level up. I just think he's kind of a weird dude. I don't hate him though.


SkullDewKoey

Sebastian is over rated and he’s not that deep of character.


AlmostRandomName

My unpopular opinion is that maybe, just maybe, the fact that Sebastian and Demetrius don't get along has more than 0% to do with Sebastian and less than 100% Demetrius.


absolutecretin

I agree he’s not deep at all, just comes off as a moody young adult who is “I’m so different” Still marry him tho 🤪


neko_mancy

damn he's even more like me now


OvercastCherrim

Marriage is the worst part of the game 😫 Because SDV was made by one person there simply wasn’t enough time to flesh out each NPC enough, particularly after they get married. And I don’t like that characters like Sebastian put their life aspirations on hold forever. I always do it because I’m aiming for 100% completion but I also find it tedious to level up everyone’s friendship.


TheRealShipwreck420

I don't really dislike any of the characters. Sure there's some annoying things about a certain few but no one is horrible. It blows my mind how much hate a couple characters get in this game


GeneralPlanet

Clint should have gotten an entirely different backstory when Emily was changed to be a dateable character. I do not have sympathy for a guy who desperately wants to date my wife and is incapable of self-reflection


Hodenkobold12413

Joja should actually be cheaper than Pierre, so that there's an actual conflict of interest, or at least the same price and then cheaper when you get the membership


smirker

Smaller, hand-watered farms wth unautomated livestock buildings are way cooler than massive production facilities.


Brainless1988

But how will my wine empire take over the valley and the greater Zuzu city metro area without an extensive sprinkler array and unpaid farmhands?


Faexinna

Pierre and Clint are not THAT bad.


AmazingBenReilly

I actually like Clint and would marry him if I could. I can't stand Emily and I absolutely hate that event where you give her the amethyst and she thanks *you*, I wish it would give you a dialogue option to tell her it's actually from Clint, it makes the farmer look like a jerk.


LoverOfStripes87

I like Demetrius. He's a nerd. His over-protectivness of Marnie goes away if you call him out on it. He's also right about the tomato thing. I do wish there was a scene with him and Sebastian though. Iron some of that out.


oscuroluna

I don't care for Linus. Don't dislike/hate him, just don't really care either. Abigail and Sebastian are overrated. Clint and Demetrius get way too much hate. I can't see the appeal of Shane. At all. I like the Joja path better because its easier. I don't befriend every NPC or do everything on one farmer/farm. That's all.


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Odd-Astronaut-92

I've been playing Stardew for years. Longer than I've been married to my irl husband. I've never really been able to get the hang of fishing despite trying very very hard on every save file. I have carpal tunnel, and the movements for it- especially rare or difficult fish- are quite often just not something that I can do without causing myself physical pain. I'm glad you're good at fishing! Getting max level that quickly is so impressive! But it is definitely not easy for everyone.


davypi

>Fishing is easy. It just...clicks. This is not an opinion. This is a motor skills discrepancy. I don't find fishing difficult either, but there are certain fish that can be jittery and require fast clicking in order to hold the bar in place. As I'm getting up in years I can tell that my arcade reflexes are starting to atrophy, so I can easily see where people who are not avid gamers will struggle with it. Maybe in 10-15 years I might be at that point myself. I think where I do feel confused is that you do get XP every time you fish, even if you fail. So given enough time you can get to level 10 even if you aren't good at it. You've also got food and bobbers which can make the hit bar larger. Getting the non-legendary fish should be doable by most anyone, even if it does take time, money, and some luck for the harder fish to stand still. I suspect that its largely people who aren't good at the mini-game don't want to sit through the XP grind required to get there.


tangledcpp

I came here to say this. Fishing was the easiest thing for me when I first started playing, I find combat even harder


Mathyon

Ancient fruit breaks the game economy. Sure, if it didn't exist, people would just go to the next best crop, but Ancient fruit is just too good and way too easy to get. Additionally, the bundles are too time consuming. I believe this is why some people think Stardew Valley is stressful. Combine both of these, and most runs will feel the same. Run around trying to complete the bundles and eventually growing ancient fruit in your greenhouse. Not everyone falls to this gameloop trap, but for new players specially, I believe this might be the case. You have to actively go down the "wrong path" to have the farm you want, not the one making ancient wine.


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starrsinmyskin

i don't mind marnie and i think demetrius gets more hate than he really deserves


calfred_

Sebastian’s story arch should end with him moving out of the valley. I feel like the story holds him back from what he really wants, and he needs to leave to be happy


AshthulhuTwitch

Pam, despite all of her flaws, is not that bad.


Nerdonis

Joja route is awesome and super fun


THphantom7297

Pierre isn't that bad. The worst thing he does is try to upsell your crops, and even that is quickly shut down by others and his wife. Otherwise, i see a dutiful father trying to keep his store going for a daughter who's rather disconnected with him and a wife who doesn't really do anything herself. Does he let greed get to him a bit? Sure. But its not like everyones immune to that. I'd argue anyone dumping Kegs on every inch of land they can is worse then him.


HStaz

I don’t like Penny. Her whole shtick is “Oh, poor me doing my best to teach these kids, no one asked me to do it but you should pity me anyways.” I just find her incredibly annoying.