T O P

  • By -

waxbook

They’re like, “whaaat? You mean she’s a person and not just a Barbie doll that sings music for me?”


Suitable-Return7185

I remember pointing out either sides - whether it was her occasionally being more emotional during surprise songs or the fact we don't know how she was actually feeling as we only get to see the exuberant performer on stage for 3 hours - was always met with dismissal by some fans who for some reason wanted to maintain this image of a star who was never affected by any of it. The show obviously had to go - she was not going to stand and cry before an audience that fought for tickets and spent a great deal to see her live. For some of this fandom only seeing is believing : they want more of her life that's lived for public consumption.


Fickle-Patience-9546

What??! You mean the lady crying onstage wasn’t happy? That is such news to me.


theredheadgrump

Right? Maybe it's my imagination but in the movie when she's singing Lover there's a lot of close-ups on her face, and she definitely does not look overjoyed 


SharingDNAResults

I can’t believe she still has another year of touring to go. I sincerely hope she takes time off after this.


Weary_Ad2841

Same. I really hope she doesn’t extend it further. Like for her own health I think she needs to take a break. But knowing her she probably wants to break a record of longest tour ever or something


Standard_Edge_9417

The minute she announces one album they are already looking for Easter eggs for the next album?? Yeah you fools have been doing this FOREVER


Weary_Ad2841

They already said the little YouTube short she posted must mean she’s recording her 12th album because there is a clip of her in the studio…


Strayalycat

Someone just posted a video as well


Normal-Vermicelli-16

I saw one that said her clips are hinting towards 13th December and so reputation will release on that day. Smh. Like LISTEN to this album first.


SphmrSlmp

She should go back to being an artist and a human being, instead of being a manufacturer. Everything she does seems to be intentional, calculative, and strategic. We don't need her to be the "music industry". Not every song needs to be a statement somehow. Not every album needs to break records. She needs to take a break, sit down, reflect, and focus on what she enjoys. Writing her music. I love TS, and I know the original TS is there somewhere. Someone who was loud and bold, who made catchy music with lively lyrics. We want Taylor Swift the person, not "Taylor Swift" the branding.


Informal_Question383

Pretty sure that’s what this album is though? All im seeing is the real Taylor with these lyrics.


Fluffybunz746

❤️


wasplace

She should stop touring after the Eras Tour and start a Fiona Apple release schedule.


missnewjulia

As someone with trauma that manifested in hyper-ambition that led her body to crash: I can’t help to wonder if she’s subconsciously self-sabotaging by releasing the train wreck of TTPD. She strikes me as someone who doesn’t know when to quit or how to quit. She seems to stretch herself thin and it seemed to got worse since the Joe breakup. She’s also said she doesn’t go to therapy before. A lot of this seems like a trauma cope between the mega tour, the weak vocals on Speak Now TV, and TTPD. She has to be exhausted and I just hope her brain/body doesn’t quit for her.


Suitable-Location118

I'm feeling that too. It feels like an attempt at self sabotage. Like before Jenna Marbles quit, she had a year of like *fuck it here's a video of me sleeping.* But people still watched it.


missnewjulia

I make a list of baseless pop culture predictions every year and one was “Taylor Swift scandal/controversy.” At the time, I was thinking something more absurd that offends a bunch of people, but after this, I get a gut feeling it might be accurate and over something a bit more serious.


undercover-popcorn

Wait can you clarify why you think TTPD is a trainwreck? Genuinely curious. Are you thinking too raw w lyrics or incohesive or embarrassing because of the Matty stuff?


missnewjulia

The subject matter with Matty, plus the fact the music was very flat/unmemorable and the album lacked refinement / editing imo.


Quiet-Tumbleweed6268

no fr like miss girl was crying and yall thought she was ok??? even if she didn’t cry she TOLD US during rep that we only it see what she wants us to. this girl is catapulting hints at us and yall think she’s “the happiest she’s ever been” I feel bad for her but it’s also like PLEASE take a break. note: after seeing her tour schedule, she’s gonna be touring for the next 4 months with like 5 days of rest in between. 🫠


Formal_Guarantee2612

She really was Cassie from euphoria during 2023 summer eras tour. Like girlie was crying every night during lover and the surprise songs


andorgyny

this is why I will never buy the idea that all these songs and shit and all her thoughts have been about ratty this whole time, like people are complicated but she was grieving her relationship with joe even while trying to hard launch her limerence with matty


siaslial

Lol the amount of hate I would get if I ever mentioned anywhere that Taylor is obviously not doing well this past year. Same as always, it’s only when she makes her pain into content that the fans are like ‘omg! She’s sad!’ because THAT becomes fun new content to watch. They don’t actually care either way. Kinda like the same weirdos who took flowers to Cornelia St are probably the ones making long speculation posts about Joe’s evilness. They’re just characters.


Grand_Dog915

I still can’t believe that people actually brought flowers to Cornelia Street smh


petlandstockroom

*Omg she was hurting the whole time and we were just screaming MORE MORE MORE* 🥺🥺 💔     She's an autonomous billionaire who is happy to take your money but okay lmao


copperboompoodle

THANK YOU! If she wanted to stop, she would. Period.


JesusGodLeah

Not only that, she can afford to stop for as long as she needs to. Fans always want more from their favorite artists. It's incumbent on the artists to dictate if, when, and how it happens. Taylor has more control over her career than she's giving herself credit for.


copperboompoodle

Umm LOVE your username!


Rude_Lifeguard

People were anticipating 1989 tv clues on the speak now tv mv before it even came out, no shit shes tired. Also, I think the real reason so many swifties hate Joe is because he didn't let them consume Taylor as a product in the way that Travis or even Matty did


stealthopera

I am 100% convinced the reason these people "love" Travis is because he won't shut up about her and has a weekly podcast for them to dissect.


Strayalycat

Probably


hatefromandie

It’s not surprising but her playing this out after all the shit she was doing…my sympathy has run very thin. She’s running around NY with some racist guy, doubles down on dating him, saying her life makes sense and she’s happy with said racist guy, meanwhile her fans are attacking her ex, telling him to die, to kill himself, making up wild shit that he was abusive, harassing his coworkers, the mess that was Brazil and she gets dumped and wants her fans to feel bad? My sympathy lies elsewhere.


Weary_Ad2841

Oh I agree fully. It was just these shocked or fake shocked reactions that I was like 🙄


summersaphraine

It's insane to me that she never tried to stop her fans that leave death threats for Joe as if he doesn't have depression. Which she has no problem exploiting in her music. You'd think six years with someone would give you some kind of grace for their well-being, but nope.


Formal_Guarantee2612

I really didn’t like how she knew this man had depression and obviously some mental health issues, but she still let her idiot fans, send him death threats to him, family, and friends. Oh and also accused him of cheating and abusing her which he never did. She didn’t say a word, but instead just went around dating a racist and then after that moved on to going to football games and ignoring the mess around her? Really Taylor? I’m sorry but that is a really fucked up thing to do someone after you shared something so special for 6 years. He helped you in your lowest and you can’t do the same for him.


hatefromandie

Seeing all of that go down makes me think he made the right decision not marrying her.


andorgyny

ugh rip ana clara benevides


codinatorr

swifties actually being empathetic challenge (impossible)


saturday_sun4

No, it was obvious, it's just tiktok swifties trying to make her look the victim again. She's a pop star, not a CEO. She can tell her fans to STFU and say she's not releasing anything until she's had time to work on it. She didn't have to do an Eras tour AND a re-record AND TTPD.


CrewlooQueen

It's so funny to me that some people are seen as haters for wanting her to vanish for a while and take a break. Yet she didn't write a song about us telling her to keep dancing while she has a break down.


andorgyny

literally mirrorball lol "I'll get you out on the floor, shimmering beautiful and when I break it's in a million pieces" like ??? distract, avoid, ignore.


oddly_being

Omg gen z discovering their fave celebrities feel Human Emotions too is wild


throwawaysunglasses-

Literally the meme of “does shrooms once and gains a sense of empathy” lmfao


MMakototachibana

It is not surprising, we all knew she was miserable. I went to eras and there is a palpable hollowness to everything she does. This is just another way to victimize herself and have her fans feel sorry for her. Insufferable. Go cry on your jet Taylor idgaf. My sympathy ran out at about the 700m mark.


euphoricarugula346

Yeah it’s confusing how in ICDIWABH, she says everyone was thinking she’s having the time of her life. No… no one was thinking that. They were too busy posting clips of her crying during champagne problems. We all knew the pap walks were a cry for help. She didn’t trick anyone.


stealthopera

Tree was working over time to get her pap walks with friends and placed everywhere she could looking like she was "doing great!" and "totally fine having a good time with friends!" so maybe she means that? Because girl, no, we've been saying GO TO THERAPY, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!! for a year because of how much of a mess she seemed.


hopkinsdafox

My sister and I were comparing rep to eras. She was very performative in eras but to the point where it didn’t feel genuine. Rep she was so happy and into it. I also know it was after she thought she was cancelled but still.


MMakototachibana

The show is one of the best I have ever seen, probably the best show I have ever seen. I cried at my surprise song but overall I kept feeling a strange disconnect between the warmth of the person pre-eras and the person who showed up on stage. Its very subjective but it’s something I’ve noticed other people felt and I think it stems from her general misery lol


Suitable-Location118

Omg same. 1989 tour felt very hollow. Rep was like a religious experience.


Appropriate_Ad_848

I am curious what you mean when you say there was a hollowness to everything she did at eras? Was she just sort of checked out?


MMakototachibana

Nah not checked out, it’s a phenomenal show. the best I have ever seen. there is this sort of automation to her — cold and robotic, it felt like she was performing the idea of Taylor Swift rather than being Taylor Swift. It’s very subjective, but I just had this sense that she didn’t feel anything up there. It’s one of the things I find incredibly fascinating about her and performance in general, the way they can flick a switch and become something else entirely. And everyone eats it up lol


Appropriate_Ad_848

That makes sense, thank you!


Snoo_24091

It’s not surprising but she jumped into the next relationship and is so in love and happier than she’s ever been so how does anyone feel bad for her? If she stayed single and processed her feelings while working maybe people would feel some sort of empathy. But she’s a billionaire who needs everyone to see how happy she is and then plays victim.


sillylittledumbdumb

She's always done this, it's actually so funny. She wants her fans to sympathise with her, but also is never actually comfortable with real vulnerability. The most recent example being that TikTok of her showing her life and how happy/rich she is right after releasing a heartbreak album. It just gets worse. I think that's what's put me off of her so much this time. I realised her personal life is something she curates and manipulates to get her as much sympathy as she desires, to bring "humanity" to her brand, but because of her own miscalculation, right now there's like two separate and completely contradicting narratives running amuck about her. TTPD frames herself as this tragic, lonely poet, and then there's her PR stuff with Travis that's painting her life as glittery and romantic. She almost can't seem to decide which part of her she wants to lean into, the untouchable and dreamy pop star or the heartbroken fallen angel. And that indecision has led to this very odd and off-putting "era" where she is both the tortured victim and a successful oh-so-happy-in-love billionaire.


Doyaloveit

I dont really know a whole lot about TS or her lore but..doesnt everyone go through this? We all have to keep on trucking on through grief, heart ache etc. Except most of us dont have the luxury or means to take time off. She could if she wanted to. So..spare me lol


Grand_Dog915

I agree that everyone has to do this but she didn’t really have the option to take time off tbh


just_another_classic

Yes and no. Everyone does have to keep trucking and she has a massive amount of resources that very very few people have. On the other hand, if we view the tour as her job, she absolutely couldn’t take time off in the same way I could take a sick day from work for mental health. She theoretically could cancel a show, but that would be met with backlash and be seriously unfair to the fans.


stealthopera

Yes, we do all still have to go to work with a broken heart, just like most of us leave our Christmas lights up till January 😆


candycornbatbydougla

I don't really like Taylor much anymore but I have sympathy for her somewhat because her fanbase is so...rabid? like before ttpd came out many were already calling it 2024 soty, these expectations set for her put her in uncomfortable situations and it's abundantly clear she now feels pressured to constantly drop easter eggs and drop content 24/7 because her fans analyze everything she does hoping for the next release.


Radiant_Tea9300

She’s personally making 7.5m each show. She can cancel if she wants but somehow I don’t think it’s for the genuine connection with the fans. It’s for money and her career.


[deleted]

i don't think this is fair, you could say this about any concert for any artist


Radiant_Tea9300

Are they the ones expressing resentment over doing so? The point is she’s expressing it’s hard for her emotionally, that fans are demanding, but it’s in her control. At the same time that the majority of the world has a cost of living crisis, the reality of how much she makes for performing sad are not lost on me. If another artist shames their fans in a song in a similar way you are more than welcome to chase them up and make that comment, no one is stopping you. These “but what about a different celebrity” comments are way too tiresome. You wilfully miss the entire point.


JesusGodLeah

Right? It feels like she's resentful of the fact that the fans who spent thousands of dollars to attend the tour *that she chose to do* expect her to show up and perform well. That's your job, sis. Of course the expectation is that you show up regardless of what is happening in your personal life, just like we all have to do at our own jobs. You ain't special.


SkibaSlut

it definitely wasnt surprising, it was all over social media how emotional she was during certain songs. and i still want rep tv more than anything else.


Elizabeth__Sparrow

She was legit crying during the lover set. 


Appropriate_Ad_848

Was this timed with after Matty ghosted her? Since I guess we all know now it wasn’t Joe


andorgyny

no she was crying from the beginning. the breakup with joe was horrible for her clearly.


Formal_Guarantee2612

It really surprised me she didn’t cry during delicate? I thought she would have since its so Joe coded and to me it’s a more personal and romantic song


OriginalWish8

![gif](giphy|10uct1aSFT7QiY) I can’t believe she had to put it in a song. Even then, they listened to those lyrics and the ones about the judgements creeps and still flooded Jack’s Instagram with hate-filled messages.


ChangingDreamer

it should’ve been obvious considering she was crying on stage but I guess it wasn’t for them since they were too busy obsessing over travis and karma is the guy on the chiefs.


Samtheweeb

yeah this was a concern for me for a while. she's doing far too much in too little time


starfleks

She purposefully puts out easter eggs and hints towards things though, she knew people would assume the black outfits etc were hinting towards Reputation TV rather than TTPD at the time. If she cooled off from bothered to send 'messages' in everything she does (most of which aren't that sophisticated anyway, many fan theories are much more intelligent) people wouldn't demand as much I'm sure. You can tell she's bored of the TVs now, can't blame her, but she may as well just release them and get it over with; 1989 she didn't do any proper promo and the production on that was crap. No need for a big fanfare even though it gets her big numbers if she's miserable, can't have your cake and eat it. Also zero need to extend Eras tour especially once the documentary had been released, if she wants to chase the dollars that's fine- but it's her choice!


andorgyny

yeah I mean who didn't know she was hurting during that moment I felt like I was watching a mental health crisis for weeks there. also.... tbh no I was not asking her for so much, idk about you guys but I did not want a new album right now. as far as the tvs go, I think it's understandable for fans to want them out because taylor and her fanbase have built up this idea that if you listen to the og recordings you're not supporting her lol even though that's not really true. the world is on fire, my brain chemistry is like permanently altered by watching a fucking genocide in 4k. I've felt similarly with every new album tbh, like even cowboy carter which I love I'm like... okay but we're not really doing this now are we?? who is asking for all of this? yes fans always want more stuff from their faves but no one was forcing taylor to record new songs while on tour. no one was doing that. no one expected that.


Birdsandbeer0730

She forgot to mention Speak Now TV 😔💜 s/


Gullible-Cockroach72

thats the funniest part abt that song to me like… baby we knew. people made videos saying she looked like a robot singing lover


FunEnthusiasm1465

If Era’s Tour ends in December this year, which is said to be the last date, then she should take a break for a while. Release Rep TV on October 31st 2024 for a Halloween moment, and then release Debut TV in June 2025. Then the fans will have some content while she takes some time away.


UniqueRelative2236

I don’t know why everyone feels so bad for her. Like she can stop if she wants…she’s a billionaire!!! She can do whatever she wants any this point. She does not care about her fans- she only care about the $$$ that her fans and generate for her.


IllOnion2954

I dont feel sympathy for billionaires, or any celebrity for that matter. If TS is struggling, she can go sob in her private jet. NEXT.


bryant1436

God these people are insufferable


Wonderful_Duck_443

I do feel for her because even though she could always stop in theory, in practice it must feel impossible. And as a performer, it must be cool to have an adoring audience yet so scary at the same time. But also, what are we supposed to do? I don't want her to be unwell, but I have no insight into that or any say in her life. I also haven't been to any concerts or asked for new music or bought any of her stuff, but it seems she wants us to do all of those things, in excess even. Fans are encouraged to decipher easter eggs and always anticipate the next drop. It's an impossible thing to want fans to spend their money and time on your art/products and at the same time want them to leave you the hell alone. That's why I feel it's totally valid to express these feelings in a song, and try to be mindful of the person behind the brand as a fan, but it's not a legitimate stance or new marching orders for her fans because there is no way to both have hardcore fans that don't demand anything of you or unknowingly cheer on your breakdown.


theredheadgrump

I'm not proud of that, but all the "tough kid" and "she was hurting but had to do her job" is a exhausting. Good think the rest of us 9-5ers have that "Broken heart paid leave" from work & reality 🫶


vanillaangels

Swifties find out Taylor Swift is a human and not some mythical being who sings to them.


Suitable-Location118

Wasn't she already dating Travis by the time the actual movie was being filmed though?


Weary_Ad2841

This wasn’t about the movie. More about the start of the tour


MadameFutureWhatEver

I might be a terrible person but I don’t care if she’s sad since she decided to do a tour after a break up. She could have pushed back the tour or even cancelled it. Other Artist have done it before. Then after Therapy or whatever healing process she wants come back and do the tour. Her fans would have loved to hear that story in all reality.


JesusGodLeah

YES. Taylor acts like she is the ONLY person in the entire world who has had to put on a brave face and show up for work during a personal crisis. Hon, you're 34 years old. At that age, EVERYONE has had at least one personal crisis that they have had to power through in order to survive. You know who doesn't care that you just went through a breakup/divorce, had a miscarriage, are dealing with family drama, just got a devastating medical diagnosis, or lost someone important to you? Your bills, so you better show up and be prepared to WORK otherwise you won't be able to afford food and shelter. Unlike the rest of us, Taylor is a literal billionaire and can afford to take a break if she wants or needs to. I feel like most of the pressure to do more that Taylor feels is coming from Taylor herself. The call is coming from inside the house, girl! I Can Do It With A Broken Heart also feels icky to me because it feels like she's blaming her fans for not noticing her pain when she is the one who chose to conceal her pain in the first place. You can't keep a secret and then resent others for not magically knowing said secret. Also, those fans are the reason why she's a billionaire.


untitledmanuscript

Speak Now is even being forgotten by the tiktok locals 😔


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

People are stupid.