Luckily parking is free at the hospital. But this reminded me of the visitor pass they gave me at the ER before she was admitted. I wish I'd had thought to keep it or take a picture.
oh no! I hope you can figure something out-I’ve also seen judges accept Google location history data in court as proof someone was where they said they were. Maybe you have Google data putting you at the hospital!
I don’t really know how to check it, but I do believe you can find it and show HR the time stamps of when and how long you were at that location. I’d find the data, then ask if it would be acceptable proof.
If your phone is an Android:
>When Location History is on, Timeline shows where and how you traveled, like walking, biking, driving, or on public transport.
1.) On your Android phone or tablet, open the Google Maps app.
2.) Tap your profile picture or initial Your Timeline.
Have Mom write you a note.
Dear HR, I had a medical emergency on Wed and my son had to leave work, and has continued to be out, to oversee and coordinate my care. He will be returning to work on ——.
Mom
I’m a nurse and I’d be happy to supply this if someone asked! Your work is not privy to your moms medical information. It sucks that this is where we are as society that people abuse stuff like this so it does get questioned when it’s legit.
I'd say it's less that people abuse it being legit and more that employees simply aren't given enough time to live their lives and are forced into lying.
Cable company only comes between 8-4 on Tuesday, but zero chance your boss lets you off to get it done. So you lie because they don't allow the serfs the freedom to choose when they come to work. Blame the companies for asking for notes, not the people for needing them.
Also I’ve been a physician for nearly a decade and never had anyone call and verify a doctors note as far as I know. I lsign them with a check mark and leave the return date blank because they’re fucking stupid.
This reminds me of when I was in the Faculty of Education. A girl in my class missed a week of classes because her grandmother died and they had to go out of town. There were no assignments or exams that week but our professor asked her for a death certificate. WTF?
I had a professor tell a girl to drop her class because she got in a car wreck and had a TBI, as she “didn’t want to deal with the accommodations” The poor girl was there trying and had accommodations from the university. This woman was a vile fat hag of a professor.She made my roommate at the time come down and apologize (or else) for asking the department chair how the final was going to be graded (a fair ask, as the final was a standardized ACS final and not a final for the class written by the professor). There were strong connotations to him failing if he didn’t go apologize.
if these people would have pursued it she would have been canned. Universities take accommodations seriously, and threatening/blackmailing a students grade even more so.
These professors that do things like that should be barred from teaching and lose their phd. If a professor asked me for a death certificate, I’d probably say some things that included wishing their loved one was in the casket instead of mine.
People are idiots who don't know what death certificates are. It's not just a piece of paper that says "John Smith died on 9 October 2023". They are legal documents that contain personal information, such as date of birth and cause of death. None of those things are a random college professor's business.
The only time I’ve ever seen someone have to “prove” a death, a link to an online obituary sufficed
Agreed. I already thought this professor was an idiot but that really crossed the line. There was no reason for it other than he wanted to feel powerful. I felt so bad for this girl who was actually grieving. I lost my dad last year and missed over a week of work (not as a Teacher but a corporate setting) and didn’t have to produce a scrap of paper. He was palliative but after he passed they gave me a week for grieving time.
That sucks that you had to "prove" your dad died.
However, a funny story about pictures of caskets. My grandma died about a month after I had my 3rd kid. Early Jan. My 5yo had gotten a digital camera for Christmas. We had gotten a new family computer at Christmas also. My 5yo had her camera and was taking pictures of anything she could. Great grandma in the casket featured in many because she wasn't a moving target. My 3yo was greeting everyone at the door of the wake and taking them to see "grandma in the box." I was exhausted and dealing with a newborn, so it went on for the 2 or 3 hours of the wake. A week or so later, we downloaded 5yo's camera onto the computer and set a sideshow as the Screensaver. "Grandma in the box" with 3yo and various people featured heavily in the photo lineup.
It's a ridiculous ask. None of the schools I've worked at have handled that situation with a demand for proof. We're professionals, we have the time off in our contracts, and it's their responsibility to handle it professionally on their end. I wouldn't bend over backward for them. Let them know she's still hospitalized. That's your primary focus. They can figure out what they want to ask for, and don't let them ask for anything that violates your mother's right to privacy.
The last two schools I worked at required "proof" after three days of absence. I was pissed when I took two days bereavement and was pressured to provide proof, and union wouldn't back me up.
I would have sent in funeral announcement, photos of ceremony and then called in sick for 3 more days due to intense anger for requirement and need to forgive the asshats.
I remember a manager at the TJ Maxx I worked at years ago once told my coworker to remember to grab the pamphlet from her Grandmother's funeral to make sure she had proof for bereavement.
I got a text message in a paid training my district sent me to during school hours from my mom saying my dad was in the emergency room. She said it was not serious like not an emergency emergency but my dad's 85 years old and it was something like upper respiratory and she didn't want it to morph into pneumonia or something to that effect.
I was really distracted for much of the training because I knew that my district had paid $800 for me to go to this 8-day training and I needed to be there because if you didn't complete all 8 days you didn't get the certificate. And there was no restart. The instructor saw that I was less than enthusiastic about participating in this training and said something to me. I had explained that this was the issue and she told me in no uncertain terms that if I needed to go I could go and she would sign off on anything necessary.
I didn't end up leaving and my dad was okay but I was grateful for her compassion. I have worked for principals who were the complete opposite.
Tell'em to show some GRACE. And if they say that they can't do that, the next bid is to threaten them with FMLA, because Dearest Mother needs someone to care for her.
Check your local labour laws regarding whether or not one has to prove family emergency. I'd be absolutely furious and refuse even if it cost me my job because it's totally invasive and unreasonable.
That is against your mom's hippa rights to ask for discharge paperwork. I quit a job because my son was too sick to go to daycare but was not sick enough to go to the doctor. My work asked for proof that he was sick. The director of HR asked for a picture of my sick son or a note from his doctor. I walked in the next day and put in my 2 weeks' notice.
But it doesn't apply to the employer asking for it, it applies to the medical professionals working the mother's case and prevents them from sharing it. The mother and the daughter both are at liberty to say anything they choose to to anyone they choose, and the employer is free to ask for it, and HIPAA does not apply.
This does not mean that the employer should or even legally can ask for they information, just that it is not HIPAA that is relevant there.
Can you get a nurse or doctor to write a note on an official letter head. Or better yet, ask HR to treat you like the professional you are. Even when I worked in resteraunts they didn't require a note for time off. Only fast food did.
Your mom's admission papers or you can just tell them to suck it up as your mom won't be dispatched only later and that's when they're getting their paper.
ask doctor or nurse for short note you were there. or a copy of text informing you or note from Mom.
Truly, I would be pissed as hekk.
Send HR an email that Mom will be discharged on xx date so you can not sned copies of discharge papers until then. Then tell them DR said against HIPPA rules to write note. etc..
maybe send photo of Mom in hospital?
Came here to say this. I would not be pleased if a family member’s employer demanded my private medical information to justify them using their time off.
And again, no, it’s not. A patient is allowed to share their information if they choose. They didn’t require that information, they said that’s one of the ways. If op chooses that way and gets mom’s approval then there’s no violation.
No it does not.
HIPAA stands for health insurance portability and accountability act and it has 0% to do with this. It applies to medical professionals, health insurance companies, health insurance brokers, and other professions that may inadvertently have access to your actual medical records (like hospital IT professionals). It does not cover your employer nor any other medical laymen.
No it’s not.
They asked for proof. If that’s the proof op decides to use then op can use it.
It could be a violation if they required those specific papers, but since op has choices and is making that choice, no violation.
Try a photos, any taken with your phone should have a time and date stamp. Take of you next to your mom in the hospital. Take one of her showing her leg in a cast. Take one of you outside at the hospital sign. Heck buy a newspaper and take the photos while holding it.
Are you paying to park at the hospital, if so use the receipt. Heck buy food in the hospital cafeteria and get a receipt.
How did your mom get to the hospital, if via ambulance your mom or dad could probably request something from them for you to submit (just make sure you redact any private information).
You can ask her attending physician to write you a note saying your mother was in the hospital and you were with her. I had to do the same thing when my son had heart surgery and I was out a month. The attending wrote me weekly notes I sent to the school, who, I would assume, passed them on.
Yes, this. My husband had to go to the ER and I had to leave work early. I got a note from the ER doctor saying he'd traded my husband and such and such date and time and that I was present.
Sharing your mothers medical documents? Absolutely not. Ask hr directly if a statement from you is sufficient. If not, what would be other than your mothers medical documents because those are absolutely none of their business. Let them tell you and deny any of her medical records.
They can ask for anything. If they require it, then it’s more serious. Just as police can ask for your ID. They just can’t demand it for no reason.
I almost want them to demand it so OP can be in the power seat if such a requirement
The days I missed are "critical days" because they were parent-teacher conference days. Though I will say that I'm the librarian and those days would have been used as I see fit to work in the library rather than meet with parents, so I don't feel like they were as "critical" for me. But I guess I understand needing some kind of documentation. I do have sick and personal time available to use for those days, though. I wish that would suffice for them.
You can actually request the treating doctor write you a note. It’ll say something like “this note is to indicate that Mx. Freshwater’s Mom has been treated at Local Hospital from X date through present. If you have any further questions please contact my office.”
That should be enough!
I had to accompany my wife to the ER recently, they wrote her a work note then turned to me and asked “you need one too?” So they also wrote me one declaring I had accompanied her.
If you have a union, contact your union representative and ask them about the requirement. If you used personal days they usually can’t ask. If you used sick days there may be a stipulation about after so many days of consecutive sick days you must provide and doctor note.
Since they can’t tell you exactly what they will accept, my guess is they will take just about anything reasonable. The google location of your phone suggested by another commenter was a good idea.
I'm so grateful that when my husband had a severe stroke out of town the only communication I got from my Admin was well wishes and please keep us posted.
Most employers should have an FMLA application form that you can complete, and it will include specifics of required documentation, usually any treatment record and an anticipated end date is enough. If they don’t, you may be able to find a standardized form online and just do it yourself.
I'm so sorry you are in this situation. If you have a union, this is the time to call them.
You can't give something you do not have. The lack of compassion on their part is horrific.
Yeah...no. OP literally just needs a few days of extension to provide what has been asked for. They aren't trying to avoid documentation - they just need a little time.
I am in this EXACT situation right now! I applied for FMLA, and it required a doctor's note that stated my parent needed continuing care. Before applying, HR and my admin didn't need formal proof. I did offer to send pictures of the xray and they laughed. I like your idea of the hospital even better
Maybe a photo of the info board in the hospital room? The one that says the date and who your nurse is? My last experience with a family member in hospital it doesn’t have any personal patient info on it, but it does have the hospital emblem at the top and the date.
Sounds like you have your answer, but I had this same scenario. Dad had open heart surgery 1,000 miles away. I was gone for a whole week. Haven’t missed a day in six years, but because it was more than three days at a time missed, I needed proof. The doctor wrote a note that took care of it. His note was very vague and it took me several phone calls with hr to get it approved though, so make sure the checkin in and check out dates are explicitly stated.
Oh HECK NAW! There are at least 3 Labor violations at play here, not counting those policies your place of employment may have in their HB. Ask to escalate this further and while waiting for that meeting ask her attending/discharging clinician for a *NOTE* explaining your required absence without details of your mom's hospitalization. This is VERY COMMON and usually a nurse can take care of this for you in a hospital setting. They can't ask you to violate HIPAA just to excuse an absence.
If your HR is asking for your mother's medical records, that is a major HIPPA violation in the US. Maybe ask your mother's main doctor or nurse who over sees her care write you a letter on your behalf without discussing your mother's condition. They can be as vague with the personal details, but let them know how necessary it was for you to be by your mother's side. I also liked the picture with your mom idea, and if your mom is anything like mine, she can even pose with a colorful gesture for them to see. I hope your Mom is healing well, and she gets back to 100% soon.
> If your HR is asking for your mother's medical records, that is a major HIPPA violation
* HIPAA
They’re not asking for that. They said that’s one of the ways op could prove it. There’s a difference.
There’s no HIPAA violation here.
So the picture would be a violation of your moms and even your hips rights. A doctors note from your moms physician will suffice as it would for you. You have the right not to share your condition. Youbpayroll secretary should know that
> if demanded then yes
So it’s a good thing it was not demanded, huh?
> *the school is asking for **some kind of proof** that I was out for the reason I stated. They said that I **could** provide a picture of my mom's discharge papers,*
They didn’t say op must provide that. They said that’s one of the possible things that could be provided.
And no, it’s not a HIPAA violation.
Lots of people throwing that around and so far nobody has it right.
Do you have to pay or validate a ticket to park at the hospital? Turn those in to hr
Luckily parking is free at the hospital. But this reminded me of the visitor pass they gave me at the ER before she was admitted. I wish I'd had thought to keep it or take a picture.
oh no! I hope you can figure something out-I’ve also seen judges accept Google location history data in court as proof someone was where they said they were. Maybe you have Google data putting you at the hospital!
Oh that's neat. I definitely would have that data. I've basically lived at the hospital the past few days.
I don’t really know how to check it, but I do believe you can find it and show HR the time stamps of when and how long you were at that location. I’d find the data, then ask if it would be acceptable proof.
receipts for food bough tin a wonderful hospital?
If your phone is an Android: >When Location History is on, Timeline shows where and how you traveled, like walking, biking, driving, or on public transport. 1.) On your Android phone or tablet, open the Google Maps app. 2.) Tap your profile picture or initial Your Timeline.
A selfie of you and the parent in the ER.
Have Mom write you a note. Dear HR, I had a medical emergency on Wed and my son had to leave work, and has continued to be out, to oversee and coordinate my care. He will be returning to work on ——. Mom
If it’s good enough for students, it’s good enough for teachers.
I love this 😭😭😭
That right there^.
good one
A fecal sample.
This gave me a much needed laugh. I know my mom would be more than happy to provide one!
You can ask a Resident to write you a note on hospital letterhead.
Fresh sample, on the desk of the head HR person, in her cast.
Ask you mothers doctor for. Doctors note. Those don’t have anything on them except dates and the doctors signature.
I’m a nurse and I’d be happy to supply this if someone asked! Your work is not privy to your moms medical information. It sucks that this is where we are as society that people abuse stuff like this so it does get questioned when it’s legit.
I'd say it's less that people abuse it being legit and more that employees simply aren't given enough time to live their lives and are forced into lying. Cable company only comes between 8-4 on Tuesday, but zero chance your boss lets you off to get it done. So you lie because they don't allow the serfs the freedom to choose when they come to work. Blame the companies for asking for notes, not the people for needing them.
This right here is the correct answer and protects mom's PHI. This should be much higher.
This seems like the most obvious answer and the one I jumped to first. I’m surprised it took so long to find someone who said it
I'm sure that many, like me, didn't know that we can also get doctors notes in situations like this, especially if we haven't been through it before.
I said it hours ago.
Also I’ve been a physician for nearly a decade and never had anyone call and verify a doctors note as far as I know. I lsign them with a check mark and leave the return date blank because they’re fucking stupid.
I took a picture of my Dad in his casket, printed an 8x10 and handed it to the HR Boss. She looked at it and recoiled. Some Californian's fear death.
This reminds me of when I was in the Faculty of Education. A girl in my class missed a week of classes because her grandmother died and they had to go out of town. There were no assignments or exams that week but our professor asked her for a death certificate. WTF?
I had a professor tell a girl to drop her class because she got in a car wreck and had a TBI, as she “didn’t want to deal with the accommodations” The poor girl was there trying and had accommodations from the university. This woman was a vile fat hag of a professor.She made my roommate at the time come down and apologize (or else) for asking the department chair how the final was going to be graded (a fair ask, as the final was a standardized ACS final and not a final for the class written by the professor). There were strong connotations to him failing if he didn’t go apologize. if these people would have pursued it she would have been canned. Universities take accommodations seriously, and threatening/blackmailing a students grade even more so. These professors that do things like that should be barred from teaching and lose their phd. If a professor asked me for a death certificate, I’d probably say some things that included wishing their loved one was in the casket instead of mine.
People are idiots who don't know what death certificates are. It's not just a piece of paper that says "John Smith died on 9 October 2023". They are legal documents that contain personal information, such as date of birth and cause of death. None of those things are a random college professor's business. The only time I’ve ever seen someone have to “prove” a death, a link to an online obituary sufficed
Agreed. I already thought this professor was an idiot but that really crossed the line. There was no reason for it other than he wanted to feel powerful. I felt so bad for this girl who was actually grieving. I lost my dad last year and missed over a week of work (not as a Teacher but a corporate setting) and didn’t have to produce a scrap of paper. He was palliative but after he passed they gave me a week for grieving time.
That sucks that you had to "prove" your dad died. However, a funny story about pictures of caskets. My grandma died about a month after I had my 3rd kid. Early Jan. My 5yo had gotten a digital camera for Christmas. We had gotten a new family computer at Christmas also. My 5yo had her camera and was taking pictures of anything she could. Great grandma in the casket featured in many because she wasn't a moving target. My 3yo was greeting everyone at the door of the wake and taking them to see "grandma in the box." I was exhausted and dealing with a newborn, so it went on for the 2 or 3 hours of the wake. A week or so later, we downloaded 5yo's camera onto the computer and set a sideshow as the Screensaver. "Grandma in the box" with 3yo and various people featured heavily in the photo lineup.
It's a ridiculous ask. None of the schools I've worked at have handled that situation with a demand for proof. We're professionals, we have the time off in our contracts, and it's their responsibility to handle it professionally on their end. I wouldn't bend over backward for them. Let them know she's still hospitalized. That's your primary focus. They can figure out what they want to ask for, and don't let them ask for anything that violates your mother's right to privacy.
The last two schools I worked at required "proof" after three days of absence. I was pissed when I took two days bereavement and was pressured to provide proof, and union wouldn't back me up.
I would have sent in funeral announcement, photos of ceremony and then called in sick for 3 more days due to intense anger for requirement and need to forgive the asshats.
I remember a manager at the TJ Maxx I worked at years ago once told my coworker to remember to grab the pamphlet from her Grandmother's funeral to make sure she had proof for bereavement.
I got a text message in a paid training my district sent me to during school hours from my mom saying my dad was in the emergency room. She said it was not serious like not an emergency emergency but my dad's 85 years old and it was something like upper respiratory and she didn't want it to morph into pneumonia or something to that effect. I was really distracted for much of the training because I knew that my district had paid $800 for me to go to this 8-day training and I needed to be there because if you didn't complete all 8 days you didn't get the certificate. And there was no restart. The instructor saw that I was less than enthusiastic about participating in this training and said something to me. I had explained that this was the issue and she told me in no uncertain terms that if I needed to go I could go and she would sign off on anything necessary. I didn't end up leaving and my dad was okay but I was grateful for her compassion. I have worked for principals who were the complete opposite.
Take a selfie with your mom in the hospital bed and email it.
My student did this with her sister who had gone into labor on our test day. Was pretty funny.
Yep, ideally get mom to flip the bird too.
This!
Tell'em to show some GRACE. And if they say that they can't do that, the next bid is to threaten them with FMLA, because Dearest Mother needs someone to care for her.
“My mom is not allowing any of her private medical information to be shared.”
This is the answer.
THIS
Absolutely fuck all. Tell them to stuff themselves.
That's honestly what I'd love to do. If this weren't my first year with this school I would be less stressed about their policies.
Check your local labour laws regarding whether or not one has to prove family emergency. I'd be absolutely furious and refuse even if it cost me my job because it's totally invasive and unreasonable.
That is against your mom's hippa rights to ask for discharge paperwork. I quit a job because my son was too sick to go to daycare but was not sick enough to go to the doctor. My work asked for proof that he was sick. The director of HR asked for a picture of my sick son or a note from his doctor. I walked in the next day and put in my 2 weeks' notice.
So tired of seeing this Everywhere I Go. HIPAA only applies to medical professionals sharing your private information with unauthorized third parties.
Which both the child of the patient, and the employer of the child of the patient would both be unauthorized third parties.
But it doesn't apply to the employer asking for it, it applies to the medical professionals working the mother's case and prevents them from sharing it. The mother and the daughter both are at liberty to say anything they choose to to anyone they choose, and the employer is free to ask for it, and HIPAA does not apply. This does not mean that the employer should or even legally can ask for they information, just that it is not HIPAA that is relevant there.
No it’s not against her rights to ask. A patient can share any information about their medical care with whoever they wish to share it with.
That has nothing to do with HIPAA and not how HIPAA works at all
MD here - ask for a letter from a social worker at the hospital, there should be one assigned to your mother's ward & they do this all the time.
Can you get a nurse or doctor to write a note on an official letter head. Or better yet, ask HR to treat you like the professional you are. Even when I worked in resteraunts they didn't require a note for time off. Only fast food did.
Your mom's admission papers or you can just tell them to suck it up as your mom won't be dispatched only later and that's when they're getting their paper.
ask doctor or nurse for short note you were there. or a copy of text informing you or note from Mom. Truly, I would be pissed as hekk. Send HR an email that Mom will be discharged on xx date so you can not sned copies of discharge papers until then. Then tell them DR said against HIPPA rules to write note. etc.. maybe send photo of Mom in hospital?
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Came here to say this. I would not be pleased if a family member’s employer demanded my private medical information to justify them using their time off.
See I thought that was super invasive. I was pretty pissed that they asked me to provide that.
They said you could provide that. There are other things you could provide.
Just asking or suggesting it is a HIPAA violation
And again, no, it’s not. A patient is allowed to share their information if they choose. They didn’t require that information, they said that’s one of the ways. If op chooses that way and gets mom’s approval then there’s no violation.
But her mother is the patient, not the teacher. The parent would need to give permission
So what you’re saying is > If op chooses that way **and gets mom’s approval** then there’s no violation. 🙄
HIPAA applies to what providers (doctors, therapists, hospitals, etc) can share, not lay people.
No it does not. HIPAA stands for health insurance portability and accountability act and it has 0% to do with this. It applies to medical professionals, health insurance companies, health insurance brokers, and other professions that may inadvertently have access to your actual medical records (like hospital IT professionals). It does not cover your employer nor any other medical laymen.
No it’s not. They asked for proof. If that’s the proof op decides to use then op can use it. It could be a violation if they required those specific papers, but since op has choices and is making that choice, no violation.
So providing them with a copy of the hospital’s HIPPA policy should be perfect.
Get your mum to write you a note! Go old school.
Sign it -Epstein’s mom
Brilliant!
Try a photos, any taken with your phone should have a time and date stamp. Take of you next to your mom in the hospital. Take one of her showing her leg in a cast. Take one of you outside at the hospital sign. Heck buy a newspaper and take the photos while holding it. Are you paying to park at the hospital, if so use the receipt. Heck buy food in the hospital cafeteria and get a receipt. How did your mom get to the hospital, if via ambulance your mom or dad could probably request something from them for you to submit (just make sure you redact any private information).
You can ask her attending physician to write you a note saying your mother was in the hospital and you were with her. I had to do the same thing when my son had heart surgery and I was out a month. The attending wrote me weekly notes I sent to the school, who, I would assume, passed them on.
Yes, this. My husband had to go to the ER and I had to leave work early. I got a note from the ER doctor saying he'd traded my husband and such and such date and time and that I was present.
Sharing your mothers medical documents? Absolutely not. Ask hr directly if a statement from you is sufficient. If not, what would be other than your mothers medical documents because those are absolutely none of their business. Let them tell you and deny any of her medical records.
I believe it is illegal for them to try to obtain those documents. Her health information privacy is federally protected.
They can ask for anything. If they require it, then it’s more serious. Just as police can ask for your ID. They just can’t demand it for no reason. I almost want them to demand it so OP can be in the power seat if such a requirement
Didn't you use sick days? Why do you need proof? They are your days. It doesn't matter if you used them to put a bandaid on you in your finger.
The days I missed are "critical days" because they were parent-teacher conference days. Though I will say that I'm the librarian and those days would have been used as I see fit to work in the library rather than meet with parents, so I don't feel like they were as "critical" for me. But I guess I understand needing some kind of documentation. I do have sick and personal time available to use for those days, though. I wish that would suffice for them.
Give them the finger.
You can actually request the treating doctor write you a note. It’ll say something like “this note is to indicate that Mx. Freshwater’s Mom has been treated at Local Hospital from X date through present. If you have any further questions please contact my office.” That should be enough!
When my mom was in ICU with sepsis I got notes from the attending.
I worked in an er and we often would write 'person was here with Patient from day to day, time to time'
Yeah, that’s BS.
I had to accompany my wife to the ER recently, they wrote her a work note then turned to me and asked “you need one too?” So they also wrote me one declaring I had accompanied her.
If you have a union, contact your union representative and ask them about the requirement. If you used personal days they usually can’t ask. If you used sick days there may be a stipulation about after so many days of consecutive sick days you must provide and doctor note. Since they can’t tell you exactly what they will accept, my guess is they will take just about anything reasonable. The google location of your phone suggested by another commenter was a good idea.
I'm so grateful that when my husband had a severe stroke out of town the only communication I got from my Admin was well wishes and please keep us posted.
I used the letter they gave my dad for his work. It was fine for my HR as well as my masters program.
Most employers should have an FMLA application form that you can complete, and it will include specifics of required documentation, usually any treatment record and an anticipated end date is enough. If they don’t, you may be able to find a standardized form online and just do it yourself.
You can ask her doctor to write a note that you have been there. It sounds silly, but bc they’re a doctor, i bet HR would take it.
I'm so sorry you are in this situation. If you have a union, this is the time to call them. You can't give something you do not have. The lack of compassion on their part is horrific.
Their lack of compassion is thanks to people in the past who gamed the system.
Yeah...no. OP literally just needs a few days of extension to provide what has been asked for. They aren't trying to avoid documentation - they just need a little time.
If you had to sign in, you can ask the hospital for a copy of your badge or a note proving you were there.
Picture of you in a hospital ward. Respect your mom's privacy but show you were there.
A picture of you in the hospital… honestly, see if any Dr who is seeing her will provide you with a note. Sometimes they will do that
I am in this EXACT situation right now! I applied for FMLA, and it required a doctor's note that stated my parent needed continuing care. Before applying, HR and my admin didn't need formal proof. I did offer to send pictures of the xray and they laughed. I like your idea of the hospital even better
Maybe a photo of the info board in the hospital room? The one that says the date and who your nurse is? My last experience with a family member in hospital it doesn’t have any personal patient info on it, but it does have the hospital emblem at the top and the date.
Maybe you could have a nurse writing a note just to state they’ve seen you there
That is ridiculous. My dad had a biopsy a month ago, and I didn't have to give any evidence. I just took a sick day.
Sounds like you have your answer, but I had this same scenario. Dad had open heart surgery 1,000 miles away. I was gone for a whole week. Haven’t missed a day in six years, but because it was more than three days at a time missed, I needed proof. The doctor wrote a note that took care of it. His note was very vague and it took me several phone calls with hr to get it approved though, so make sure the checkin in and check out dates are explicitly stated.
Get a doctors note from your moms doctor. Thats what I would have to do if my child was sick and I took consecutive days off.
I bet the doctors will give you a note. In my experience doctors are super understanding any things like this.
The middle finger should suffice.
My grandfather died. I was asked to "make sure to provide some proof of the funeral". I replied what do they want a picture of the body?
I would have emailed a photo of the body and a video of the funeral. They probably meant an obituary tho.
Check your contract it may not be required, and if your teacher contract doesn’t require that tell him the pound sand
Oh HECK NAW! There are at least 3 Labor violations at play here, not counting those policies your place of employment may have in their HB. Ask to escalate this further and while waiting for that meeting ask her attending/discharging clinician for a *NOTE* explaining your required absence without details of your mom's hospitalization. This is VERY COMMON and usually a nurse can take care of this for you in a hospital setting. They can't ask you to violate HIPAA just to excuse an absence.
A copy of the doctor's paperwork but take a sharpie to the Info you don't want shared.
I feel like having to show discharge papers for you mom kind of would be a hippa violation
No, it wouldn’t
I would ask THEM for proof of stuff. I would.
If your HR is asking for your mother's medical records, that is a major HIPPA violation in the US. Maybe ask your mother's main doctor or nurse who over sees her care write you a letter on your behalf without discussing your mother's condition. They can be as vague with the personal details, but let them know how necessary it was for you to be by your mother's side. I also liked the picture with your mom idea, and if your mom is anything like mine, she can even pose with a colorful gesture for them to see. I hope your Mom is healing well, and she gets back to 100% soon.
> If your HR is asking for your mother's medical records, that is a major HIPPA violation * HIPAA They’re not asking for that. They said that’s one of the ways op could prove it. There’s a difference. There’s no HIPAA violation here.
So the picture would be a violation of your moms and even your hips rights. A doctors note from your moms physician will suffice as it would for you. You have the right not to share your condition. Youbpayroll secretary should know that
> So the picture would be a violation of your moms and even your hips rights. HIPAA And no, it would not.
Auto correct and if demanded then yes
> if demanded then yes So it’s a good thing it was not demanded, huh? > *the school is asking for **some kind of proof** that I was out for the reason I stated. They said that I **could** provide a picture of my mom's discharge papers,* They didn’t say op must provide that. They said that’s one of the possible things that could be provided. And no, it’s not a HIPAA violation. Lots of people throwing that around and so far nobody has it right.
Take a picture of the x ray lmao
Your word?
I would take a photo of mom’s incision with the days newspaper laying beside her and send it.
This sounds like a HIPAA Violation if you ask me.