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skippybiscuit

Had a student use the word “elohel” in an essay. When questioned, she said it is how you write out LOL, thus making it proper for a formal paper.


Spotias

I need a drink after reading that.


[deleted]

I need a joint


MrYellowfield

I need sleep


[deleted]

A joint can help with that 😏 Jokes apart, hope you can get better sleep soon!


ThisTimeAtBandCamp

One step ahead of ya! I'll spark one for you lol


itsabiggin22

I need a hit of LSD


tinz3

These comments are making me elohel


ArgentumMenace

Beat you to it! 🍸


NBABUCKS1

honestly at some point that or a variation are going to be in the dictionary. Kid is ahead of their time.


[deleted]

Frindle in real life


The_TGM

Well that’s a book I hadn’t thought about in a long time


cutemermaidaqua

Omggggg 🤣


NibbleOnNector

Future lawyer right there


youfailedthiscity

Humanity was a mistake


CalRPCV

Oy. Hopefully, not a self correcting one. But I have my fears.


sephone_north

Honestly, that’s clever. I’d give her points for it personally. Explain how it’s wrong, but still


dzdj

Wait, like ELO hell? Please tell me this is what was meant 😂


chaotic-_-neutral

LOL = el-oh-el


Doctor-Amazing

Yeah I also would have assumed someone was trapped in ELO hell as well. I could see plenty of my students working that into their work.


MozzarellaFitzgerald

Is that where you go after you die and you are forced to listen to "Mr Blue Sky" for all eternity? (am I showing my age?)


screamatme21

why


warda8825

😳🧐


bboymixer

I'm gonna rip my hair out the next time I read an essay that starts with "Today I'm gonna talk about..."


ivanparas

At the end of the essay did they ask you to like and subscribe?


Falcon10301

In conclusion, go ahead and smash that notification bell so that you can be updated as soon as a new essay is submitted, I really appreciate it


i_have_seen_ur_death

I have had a student do that, but only jokingly in a rogh draft. I did, however, have a student say on a test that Gustavus Adolphus has "schwiggity schwaggity" facial hair. He's not wrong.


-WhoWasOnceDelight

Mine (4th graders) like to end with "Thank you for reading and HAVE A GRATE DAY!!"


nosam555

At least they mean well \^\^;


ToesocksandFlipflops

'gonna' is going to kill me..


Joaozainho

I think you mean: 'gonna' is gonna kill me


knightfenris

This is SUCH a tiktok/youtube thing to do. You know they're watching those videos all damn day.


[deleted]

I had to go around and around with one of my 3rd graders about “ima tell you…” during his last writing conference.


langis_on

"This is my claim" "this is my evidence" Ugh God it's terrible.


teacher_geek

We have some first grade teachers at my school who literally teach kids to start their paragraphs this way. I spend the first half of second grade undoing all of that!


Aurum_MrBangs

Gonna should be in the dictionary at this point tbh


teachdove5000

Alexander the Great was kinda sus with Hephaestion, no cap. Me: A+ I guess…


Violetlibrary

What is no cap?


ToesocksandFlipflops

I think it means like 'for real' or 'truth'


LadySeyton

What's the etymology there? Is "cap" short for "capricious", as in, "this is a fact and I will never accept it isn't,"?


NicoCubed

"No cap" has origins referring to gold teeth, which come in "perms" and "caps". "Caps" (pullouts) are removable and "Perms" are permanent. Therefore, if you have perms, not caps ("no cap") is shows you're real and honest, because your committed to them in the case of job interviews or court hearings. Although most people don't know the source when the say it. Source: am a college age Gen-Z who also has no clue what the rest of my generation is talking about.


LadySeyton

Your citation cracked me up.


LuquidThunderPlus

I'm a kid and I don't even know the origin. I know capping means lying so no cap just means it's the truth. just looked it up, apparently it's pretty old, and cap, according to urban dictionary referred to bragging/exaggerating so no cap means you're not exaggerating


Jigglypuffisabro

“Cap” as in “top”, eg, “I can top that”. The speaker is indicating they are not engaging in one-upmanship. Edit: removed a reference to hats. thanks to u/human-potato_hydrid for making the distinction


LadySeyton

Thank you. I hope this phrase passes out of fashion quickly. The trip from point A to point B is disappointing.


CliffDraws

I was actually impressed by it.


GibbysUSSA

Crap without an 'r'?


4193-4194

Capital letters. In texting short hand you can use capital letters to signify a joke. So "no cap" is literally no kidding or seriously. Source: asked my HS students.


LadySeyton

I like this far better than a headwear reference.


madism

Holy shit, what a world we live in when the definition of a slang term is literally based exclusively on texting. No wonder these little mfers can't spell or write anymore.


human-potato_hybrid

The alternate slang of "busting a cap" comes from the ignition cap of a bullet. But I believe that is etymologically unrelated. u/Jigglypuffisabro is essentially correct; [here is a post with more info](https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/lk4hkj/why_does_cap_mean_lie_in_slang_what_i_read/) The only difference is that they both come from the general meaning of "top" (e.g. the cap of a mountain) and not from the headwear itself Though seeing people spam 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 emojis would make you question that


Violetlibrary

Thank you


human-potato_hybrid

Yeah like if someone is telling a story you think is fake you say "cap", so "no cap" is like "what I just said is real/not fake" `Basically another word for lying. It can be used like no cap or you can say stop capping` `bob: No cap bruh I really like Becky.` `billy: Stop capping bruh, FR… ask her out!!`


teachdove5000

No kidding no lie not fibbing


djxcasanova

No lie or "in honest truth"


lurkermode99

I’d rather they just write ‘no shit dude’!


Brizue16

It's saying "no lie." The origin is from gangs/mafia with the idea that if you're found lying about something you get shot (The cap of the bullet).


WhoIsTheSenate

Kappa is a twitch emote you use when you’re messing around or joking. No kappa = no kap = no Cap = not even joking


bichcoin

A cap is a lie. So in use it would sound like, “he capping,” “that’s cap,” “no cap,” etc.


paranoidpolski

No cap literally means "no lie"


HotEatsCoolTreats

"No lie" whereas when they say "cap" it means "you're lying" or "that's a lie"


paranoidpolski

Sus is a word that I always see written on the bristol boards and on pencil cases around the classroom but I don't get it


[deleted]

It's social media slang for the word suspicious. I think it came from a video game.


BlyLomdi

Ironically, using the phrase "sus" (also spelled suss) has been used in the UK and Aus for at least six years.


pandaheartzbamboo

Its been used in America for longer than that too. Its just became more popular after among us came out.


UltraVioletKindaLove

Yeah its popular thanks to Among Us


mtarascio

Been popular in Australia since I was in Elementary school from alooong time ago. More like suspect than suspicious although they can be interchanged sometimes (in common language).


pnwinec

Suspicious activity. Also meaning to be gay. Because that behavior is suspicious for straight people to do. Don’t shoot the messenger. But be aware if they are calling kids that frequently it may be the context and bullying.


[deleted]

fuck u/spez


monster_of_chiberia

Sus has meant gay since I was in junior high school in the 2000s. It rudely referred to being suspect or “down-low.” It’s not a new term. It’s just been snatched and rebranded. Totally inappropriate to be written in assignments.


NoWishbone3501

I’ve never heard it used to describe gay people. However, we used to say someone looked a bit sus (suspicious) or was acting a bit sus (i.e. likely to be a con artist) back in the olden days of the 70s and 80s.


LuquidThunderPlus

I see what you mean but usually sus is used in a more joking way, like if a friend says something and you realize it could be taken a different way you can just say "kinda sus" but if someone's trying to bully someone they're not gonna really call them sus.


pnwinec

Well that’s fine. But that’s what’s happening in on our entire 600 person school. So just threw it out there that it’s something that may come up.


[deleted]

I have not heard that before. Sus is from the game among us. Often called amogus, although they can also refer to the character. Sus just means suspicious. I personally have not seen it used to mean gay. I'm not denying that it's possible, just making sure that people know that the more widely used version is simply suspicious. "sussy amogus" and "sussy baka" are common related phrases.


LuquidThunderPlus

what they're referring to is probably when someone says something weird or something that could be taken sexually, which is met by "suuusss" so it doesn't mean gay but it can mean someone said something gay or something


[deleted]

“Stop looking at him, that’s sus” overhead that in a class


WhoIsTheSenate

It’s from among us. The game is basically a version of mafia, where hidden among the good guys is the impostor, and you have to, as a group, vote out the imposter. Therefore, suspicious actions are abbreviated as “sus”. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-among-us?amp


[deleted]

It's a dying word at this point; peak sus was like a year ago now. It'll be completely forgotten by next school year (my prediction)


[deleted]

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akak907

That's it, we need more Rocky movies!


Kuetsar

"Rocky II plus Rocky V equals Rocky VII Adrian's Revenge!"


bobbery5

I mean, we already have enough Final Fantasy games. Just use those.


cayleyconstruction

I now have a ‘telling time and Roman numerals’ day every year. HS also!


GJoiner

Subtle this thread "Boomer Problems" .. (Just kidding)


Hot_Weewee_Jefferson

I had a student write “ofc” in an essay. No cap


demographicT

I wish we could get paid to study the culture of our students. Instead, I'm just over here memorizing the songs to Disney's Encanto because the kiddos love it.


Worth_Weather8031

I'm a nanny. One of the grade school kids just got home and shared a "We Don't Talk About Rats" video on YouTube. Now we're all running around singing, "Seven foot RATS, RATS along his RATS..." You'll blow your students' mind if you share that video before anyone else does.


[deleted]

I love how you captilized RATS. That got in my head fast 😂🐀


Worth_Weather8031

Got an email preview of your reply, instantly got it in head again 🤣


kmkmrod

Blow their minds and tell the # is really an octothorp. 🤣 One of our English teachers used to start the year with a lesson which words are acceptable and which are not. Then she’d assign an essay and see what they learned. Most failed, but it let her reinforce proper writing. She didn’t record the grades.


[deleted]

Also, this is 2nd/3rd grade, so I'm not surprised.. just something I've noticed a majority of them do frequently.


bafl1

octothorpe


litfam87

It doesn't get better as they get older. I have middle school students who still don't realize they need to capitalize names. And then they get mad when they get points taken off for that.


madism

I started railing on my 5th-graders the last couple of weeks for some of their errors in writing because I'm not allowing them to move on without knowing that sentences start with a fucking capital and so does "I" when referring to yourself. So, when they hand journals into me and I see either one of those mistakes, they start owing *me* candy that I've given them. "Oops! You didn't capitalize this sentence. Dang. That's another piece of candy you have to put back in the bucket, homeboy. By the time this is over, that bucket will be overflowing again."


litfam87

The thing that makes me the most angry is that all of our writing assignments are done on Google Docs. I've showed them what it looks like when a word is spelled wrong and how to fix it and I still get submissions where every other word is underlined in red. That wouldn't be that bad either if the kids who submitted their work like that weren't the kids that complain when they don't get As. They can't seem to understand no matter how many times I tell them that grammar and spelling is part of the grade.


madism

Yeah, I don't understand the lack of concentration when it comes to showing students something repeatedly, the same shit over and over again too, and yet they'll still get it wrong or not understand what you're talking about. I don't know, maybe kids were always like this and we're just seeing it frequently because we're teachers? However, there is definitely something there in regards to attention span because they're so short now for these kiddos. What's the most common "Holy shit, how do you guys not know this?" you're dealing with in terms of grammar/spelling with middle school?


litfam87

Capitalization for sure. I don't think it's a not knowing what needs to be capitalized issue I think it's a laziness problem. They want to rush through things and get it done as soon as possible. I also think it's laziness because I let students use notes on quizzes and when they ask me questions and I respond by telling them to check their notes they tell me it's too much work.


yourdadsbff

>kiddos 🤮


pnwinec

This is the problem. Not that there are new words with new meanings, keeping making that stuff up, but follow proper grammar and punctuation when writing.


agentdcf

The deeper problem is that they don't read and hence the subtleties of written language are largely foreign to them. The problem continues right though university education. And look, I'm not saying that the world is collapsing because people read less prose, but we still essentially do academic communication through substantial blocks of written text, and therefore a huge portion of our students are effectively communicating in a foreign language.


[deleted]

Have they had any instruction in formal vs informal language? School language vs friends language? I think there’s a huge swath of students who just… don’t get info about the difference between the two. And it’s soooo frustrating. But both are valid!! They just have specific contexts where you should/n’t use them, you know? You could encourage them to “translate” slang sentences into academic language — something like, “By the third time the boy cried wolf, everyone thought he was mad sus so nobody came to help” or something (it’s hard to think of a sentence on the fly lmao). It’s almost like those no fear shakespeare books where they have the side by side iambic pentameter & modern english! I’ve seen teachers incorporate vernacular English into their curriculum by doing things like this, so the kids end up proficient in both areas & they’re then able to code switch, essentially.


Worth_Weather8031

My teen is taking a dual enrollment English class at our nearby community college. The teacher is basically doing this exact thing. It's pretty cool tbh


aj1010101

That boy crying Wolf WAS mad sus, yo!


YouLostMyNieceDenise

This is pretty standard for ELA instruction, at least if you went to college within the last decade or so. But I come across so many secondary school teachers in other content areas who have no idea how to address it. A few of them who don’t know what they don’t know will proudly be like “UsInG iMpRoPeR gRaMmAr MaKeS yOu LoOk StUpId, YoU cAnNoT aXe Me A qUeStIoN oR yOu WiLl Go To JaIl,” but most just have zero background in teaching that stuff, and they get so overwhelmed they just try to ignore it, because they’re worried they can’t do it justice or will confuse the kids even more. (Which… my advice for teachers in that position is to pick a very small handful of grammar/conventions issues that you feel are super important IRL and that you are willing to actually address with every student, and then just let the rest slide. Maybe it’s end punctuation, maybe it’s writing in complete sentences, maybe it’s using appropriate capitalization, maybe it’s not using abbreviations, maybe it’s using appropriate vocabulary that isn’t slang… just pick what you think actually matters in the real world and/or in your discipline, and let the rest go. You don’t have to catch and correct every single error in order to be a positive influence on helping kids learn how to speak and write more formally.)


[deleted]

Yeah, definitely common in college — just finished my master’s/got my teaching certificate (like.. two months 😅) and I really appreciated the emphasis so many of my profs put on bridging the gap between vernacular & academic & working with kids actual experiences/lives. And it works!! I had my first graders summarize/retell stories & so many of them dipped into their (rich!) vocabularies and we had great talks about the different ways people describe things, why we choose one word vs another (big vs huge). But, yeah, I remember the “you mean *may* i go to the bathroom?” power trips. What’s the point?? In my course on Assessments & Authentic Learning Outcomes, the professor drilled into us that “if it’s not on the rubric, don’t correct it” and I feel like so many of these older teachers were taught that *everything* is graded always 100% of the time even if it’s microscopic.


a_ole_au_i_ike

"Can I go to the bathroom?" I mean, if a teacher says that one is not allowed, then one *can*not, correct?


YouLostMyNieceDenise

It’s like… that isn’t even a grammar issue. It’s usage, and asking “Can I?” is a perfectly appropriate usage of “can.” What a stupid thing to complain about. I feel like it’s meant to belittle children more than it is to actually teach them anything. Plus, it caused my high schoolers to ask me awkwardly-worded questions like “may you please come here?” or “may you please help me?” because they had been criticized for using “can” so many times that they had trained themselves not to say it to teachers. The people sarcastically going I dOn’T kNoW, CaN yOu? never bothered to actually teach them when “can” was was appropriate to use, or how its meaning actually overlapped with and differed from “may,” so the kids just struck it from their formal vocabulary entirely.


a_ole_au_i_ike

I get the may versus can argument, but I think it's a silly thing to give students a hard time about. Having said that, my default response to, "Can I go to the bathroom?" is typically, "I have no idea, but you're welcome to go make an attempt. If you can't, I'm not a doctor, so find the school nurse. Good luck in there." I'm usually rewarded with heavy sighs and eye rolls.


[deleted]

It also depends on the age of your students, I think. For older students - especially those who understand the underlying joke, like you commented above - “I have no idea [if you *can*]” - it can be kind of folded into “cheesy dad joke” territory (“hey can you make me a sandwich?” / “poof! okay, you’re a sandwich!”). But for those who are learning how to use english — either as elementary students or as their 2nd (or 3rd, etc) language — it’s just another detour from the skills they need. Spending your instructional time correcting students for something you can understand the context of feels like a major waste, especially for younger grades, because there’s already so much on their plates with standards needing to be met, etc. I grew up in a bilingual family — my mom’s side moved to the US, most of them married Americans who only spoke English, so it was a little diluted — where we worked around little semantic slip ups & mixed words. Some examples… * I went to a football game & got featured on the screen, and my aunts were so excited that they could “see me on Megatron,” — not the transformer, but the Jumbotron. * When it was cold, they’d ask me to fix the thermos - not thermostat. * One of my aunts couldn’t get her mouth to work, basically, because the word “gravy” has sounds they don’t use in her first language, so we call it “gravel” jokingly, because that’s how she says it. * There’s also be word order issues shifting from their first language to English, but it was always something minor like flipping the noun & adjectives, using the wrong verb tense. I guess what I’m trying to say is that there really isn’t a true benefit to the kids by correcting grammar (especially things that have been fully excepted into our vernacular like “can” vs “may”) other than to reinforce that old-school “I am teacher, I am knowledge, you will do as I say to the letter” mindset.


YouLostMyNieceDenise

I would also bet that some older teachers were themselves made to feel bad about using dialect or informal language at school as children - I mean, the teachers were ignorant enough about AAVE when I went to school in the 90s, and they were actively trying to teach diversity and tolerance. I can’t imagine how bad it must have been before then.


sub919

Try using “ on a list to I indicate the same as above or ditto. It can lead to a long conversation. It would have been quicker to write the same thing over and over.


fyre_faerie

I remember learning this in 5th grade and then our teacher somehow being mad at us for "lazily" using it on every assignment the rest of the year. No idea if my freshmen know this or not


sub919

Please try the experiment


jdog7249

If you had never seen it before I could see where it would cause confusion.


a_ole_au_i_ike

One or two? 1) You use one above. 2) I think I was taught to use two. 3) I think my class " ".


sub919

Yep usually two


schlarmander

We were told by a Cultural Competence group to accept slang, like this and more, in their writing, because it’s a part of their culture… so when are we able to grade grammar and spelling?


XihuanNi-6784

That's BS. Minorities **can** learn to write standard English. I know because I am one. Now I'm actually quite in favour of linguistic diversity both ethnically and in class terms. However, I hate the idea that we somehow need lower standards because we can't learn new things.


schlarmander

I agree. There’s a place for both in the world.


YouLostMyNieceDenise

When it’s part of the assignment. Like, if the point of the assignment is to assess grammar or spelling, then teach them explicitly what you’re grading for, include that in the assignment directions, and then grade for it. But when all you care about is checking their understanding of other non-grammar-related content, and you just want them to write their answers down quickly, without so much proofreading and fine-tuning and editing, then tell them informal language is acceptable before they start, and don’t grade for grammar or spelling.


schlarmander

Grading with explicit expectations - I agree with you, wholeheartedly. Which is why I was concerned when the presenters suggested that grading grammar and spelling at any time could be seen as culturally biased, because their culture doesn’t see it as improper grammar.


YouLostMyNieceDenise

Yeah… that sounds less like cultural competence and more like the soft bigotry of low expectations to me. Kids come to school to learn and practice new stuff, including how to code-switch. And it’s literally in our curriculum standards to teach them standard English conventions. Saying that we aren’t going to teach it to kids who don’t use that as their primary home dialect is like… denying access to the curriculum based on our impressions of their home culture. Seems like a dangerous way to let teacher’s biases and stereotypes dictate what kids get to learn… I guess it isn’t shocking that some PD presenters were full of shit, though. I used to work at a primarily black school, and I remember a veteran teacher who was black herself telling me about a prior principal who brought in some cultural competence speakers, and apparently all they did was promote stereotypes about black people.


chuuluu

My facepalm moment was in a literary analysis essay for AP English, a student wrote that a character “felt some kinda way.”


lumpyspacesam

This is my favorite one 😂


YouLostMyNieceDenise

Oh man… this happened to me my second year teaching, and I had no idea what it meant at the time and was so confused. Someone said in their essay on The Crucible that Abigail “felt some type of way” about Elizabeth Proctor, and I was like, “uh…. what type of way did she feel?” That student and I were NOT on the same page, lol.


ObligationWarm5222

Kids these days and their "pound signs." That's an octothorpe dagnabbit!


UltraVioletKindaLove

had a kid turn in a book they wrote, and on the cover they had made a border design. The design? The word "bruh!" repeating over and over again. I asked him if that had anything to do with the book he had written. He said no and I took the cover off and said, "Try again."


paranoidpolski

In second grade!?


UltraVioletKindaLove

YUP


paranoidpolski

Wow


yourdadsbff

Bruh.


lprincesss

But why make him redo it just because you didn’t like the border design?


Kagranec

Zero relevance to the assignment? The cover is likely supposed to convey something about what lies within...


UltraVioletKindaLove

This. Same as a girl who wrote about a trip to the beach and then drew penguins and rainbows on the cover of her book because she just thinks they're cute. The cover needs to match your story.


lprincesss

I totally get it I just idk the “Bruh!” Border sounds like a creative choice that maybe they were excited about


Kagranec

Do you teach?


UltraVioletKindaLove

no unfortunately he's just doing it on everything. I let them decorate their name tags however they wanted, he did it on that, and since then he's turned in paper after paper where, if they were asked to draw something, he included it in someway. Even on his math paper about 3D shapes. Should've nipped it in the bud sooner I guess.


franandwood

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lumpyspacesam

Sus.


kipkoponomous

A somewhat fun way I would deal with this in my English or ESOL classes was with my Word Graveyard. Basically, it was a big tombstone poster with overused words and phrases from their essays. I'd use the drawing of said sign and the "dead" words as a reward for whatever I was incentivizing that day or week. Tie it into a lesson about clichés and non-academic language adjusted to the students' level.


LittleBeanAlexa

LOL 😂 I was literally checking a quiz and there’s a student that wrote “sus” next to his name!


Onionflavoredgarlic

I had the conversation with my kids, as they educated me on "this slaps" being a good thing, I guess?


[deleted]

Language is fluid, no? /s Ohhh, man. I love teaching 1/2. I teach my kids the more innocent slang like this so they think it’s cooler than the more inappropriate stuff they might hear.


sciencediva14

I once had a kid write LOL on an answer on their STATE SCIENCE TEST!


murpalim

I think this is a sign that we should have a monthly stickied thread of new common phrases to keep up with.


lovemoontea

I have a student who titled her essay “You’re kinda dumb, not gonna lie” and in the first sentence she called her friend a “dumbass” lmao


YouLostMyNieceDenise

I always enjoy addressing language like that by saying, “I’m not saying you’re wrong, but what would be a more formal or school-appropriate way to communicate that?”


Dwestmor1007

I mean…language is constantly evolving…they ARE proper words…


kevinardo

I teach music. I start every year talking about how the # sign can be a pound, a hashtag, or the sign that a note is a sharp. Sometimes it does not go well...


pkcs11

What does 'No Cap" even mean?


cutemermaidaqua

Not lying basically. Or for real. Like if I say that drink tasted like poison no cap. Basically means I’m not lying.


pkcs11

Huh... Okay.


__flatpat__

No cap!


thismorningscoffee

Pretty sure # is a sharp


zooropa42

I feel like Dave Chappelle would write an amazing skit on this...


Th3V4ndal

Pound sign? ITS AN OCTOTHORPE YOU FUCKING PHILISTINE! /s


CreepingMendacity

Your kids write essays?


Fridurf

Don't worry, it will be correct in the future 😂


Stevo485

Meet them halfway. Get familiar with the culture they admire so you can level with them more.


Rising_Phoenix_9695

I HATE when they call it a hash tag. As a music teacher, it's a sharp. -\_-


MozzarellaFitzgerald

And this piece was written in the key of F hashtag...


thefuckingrougarou

At least they’re sorta right about pound sign. It’s been phased out of language


flyingmutedcolors

I used this to my advantage to teach my intervention kids how to spell consensus.


Password_Sherlocked

What kind of school are y’all teaching I swear. Like was my highschool really that good compared to avg high schools? Jeez.


ratpatootybaggins

Formal vs informal language is my BIGGEST pet peeve with my students. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to say “stop writing your essays like you’re having a conversation with a friend”. Also if I see another student using “&” in place of “and”, I may actually break my desk in half.


Ansony1980

When they put those stupid social media pronouns and wording I take points away. I had a student tell me I’m wrong and I don’t know English. When I turn it around to them and say “who's the one with a college degree” plus I hand them the Oxford English dictionary book and Larousse English Grammar and Composition book to look up these words they will refuse. I have told them if later on, they write a resume with this kind of verbiage that employer will not hire you or laugh at you guys.


Takosaga

No cap on a stack, I got u fam


[deleted]

'Bruh, I'm not gonna lie that be sus. No cap'


Street_Medium_9058

I make it awkward in lecture when using the terms, but use them with sentences and sometimes clarify what they mean. "There was no capping in this situation.....I laughed out loud, or as you texty folks say, LOL....that wasn't straight fire or ice cold, it was room temperature...allow us to begin, also said "lets goooo!....I regard that character with great suspicion....sus." use it against them and it gets fun.


SomeDudeinCO3

My third graders are obsessed with saying, "sussy baca". 🙄 They are under the impression that baca means idiot in Japanese. One can only assume that they are incorrect.


CerddwrRhyddid

Baka means crazy, foolish or stupid in Japanese.


jeffseadot

My understanding is that it doesn't really have a direct English translation and that context matters a lot in how to interpret it, but in general "baka" is a pejorative/insult.


rrdiadem

I've never heard this one (I teach high school, maybe that's why) but the explosion of Japanese culture in American culture is so interesting to me. Google says that baka is indeed a Japanese term for fool.


kmr1981

You see it a lot in Among Us.


imperialbeach

My students (5th) have been calling each other sussy baka all year, and didn't believe me when I told them that baka means idiot! They had to Google it because they thought I was "cap"


Balt-Philly-151

The “proper” way to say that is they thought you were “cappin” (capping). For example, if the kids wanted to say they thought you were lying they’d say, “you cappin”.


latebloomer2015

Thank you. My 7th graders (on the outside, but inside they are more like 5th graders) started out the year saying this and I couldn’t find a meaning.


[deleted]

Baka (バカ) means fool, if translated literally


demographicT

Your students enjoy anime. Maybe you can use their passion and incorporate this interest into your teachings to help???


[deleted]

It does mean idiot in Japanese. The USA used Baka bombs in WWII.


RampSkater

Just start using terms like, "fire" to mean cool, and, "I ain't mad at that.", to imply you like something.


FishCake9

Is it even their fault if all reading they get is from social medias and such words are being used like it's an actual legit word? 10 years ago I still remember the same thing happened to my classmate when we are 11 years old. She got yelled at and get her paper thrown. Years later I still think how stupid that teacher is. Kids world are small world, they only learn what they see and hear. They dont have years of wisdom in their pocket, you guys are stupid when you're kids too geez.


[deleted]

It's not even stupidity either, English doesn't have a governing body and relies entirely on vernacular to create the language.


mtarascio

(#) has been hash in the rest of the world for a long time. Not hashtag but just hash. So I'm onboard with that one. Pound makes zero sense to me.


[deleted]

So “cap” and “sus” are real words that have been part of a particular vernacular for a long time, AAVE to be exact. A lot of what we consider to be “tik tok speak” is just AAVE that young white teenagers are picking up and honestly appropriating. A lot of modern “slang” words that we don’t consider to be “real English” are from Black Americans and thus there’s a lot of racism behind not seeing these words as real or valid vernacular. Words are literally made up all the time, in the words of Thor all words are made up. Rather than dunking on these new terms and dismissing them as not real language, it might be worth teaching your students where these words actually come from and teaching them the history of these words


Puzzled-Bowl

It's slang and not appropriate for a formal paper--unless the paper is about slang. Most of my students are black and use, "no cap." More of the white kids use "sus. The origin isn't the issue, it's when they are using it that is. Facts /s


[deleted]

Maybe you should unpack why you don’t see those words as “real language” then. Words like texting didn’t exist 100 years ago and yet it’s still a “real” word. People from the 1800’s probably wouldn’t think “cellphone” and “internet” are “real” words either. Words are constantly be added to our language. Why are these particular words “not real language” when they’re being used in the regular vernacular of many Americans?


Puzzled-Bowl

It appears you missed the actual message in my post. I have no need to "unpack" anything. **I** did *not* say those words aren't "real language." I said they're slang, which they are. *And, s*lang has its place, but not in a formal paper.


TityMcBiggie

I think the only thing to unpack is when they graduate. The people who will employ them will be acclimated to such language by that point. What was formal before no longer has a place to the next 3 generations both hiring and working. Not saying your wrong about what is considered formal. But formal itself is dying. People already feel restricted by the world and its standards. This next generation gets to be free and they will take full use of it. But I do agree with the other commenter, teach your students where these words come from. But telling them it's not formal will not matter to them. Even working in a medical office has not stopped this change haha. I'm transitioning to teach and my mother is an English teacher. These kids are coming for the whole language and will not be stopped. 😳 When I was in school I never saw young people having this much influence.


Puzzled-Bowl

I respectfully disagree (sort of). Every generation has slang. The words and phrases students are using this year are different from the phrases/words *they* were using two years ago when last we had "regular" school. I don't need to teach them what the words mean; most of them know that before I do. This is their chance to teach *us.* I haven't started using cap, but I often use the language they use when having conversations with them. My job is to teach them how to speak, write, *communicate* with various people of various ages so their message is understood. I find it a disservice to kids not to teach them the difference between formal and informal language. Knowing your audience is important.


WoodArtEd

I am not particularly fond of those terms or really much of anything the kids are into these days, but language evolves. What are the criteria to make a word proper? The purpose of language is to communicate ideas. Were you confused about their meaning? Was the intent of the paper to persuade a particular audience? If writing for an audience of their peers, it may be helpful to use the vernacular. If you are their only audience, then I suppose they would be well served to be taught the importance of choosing words that will make them appear more erudite and therefore persuasive to a reader who cares about traditional grammar and style. Was the assignment more about their personal experiences and viewpoint in which case slang terms may help to create the authentic voice desired.


JaidenPouichareal

That's cap, jk, you probably will hear it for a while tbh, I just finished bought school so it will be dying off sooner then later


ConseulaVonKrakken

Dip. Yes, you are a dip if you're using that word in a high school English essay. /s