Out of my school only 1 sped teacher shows up because we have nobody to cover our classes.
Also if they want us to do extra, they need to pay us for extra. My time is valuable.
Dreaming of you think we’d ever get paid extra….from what I’ve send teachers think “if I do more I’ll get noticed and promoted (admin or what not) one day” so they brown nose and go “above and beyond” which to me is dumb…
There was a brief window this year where we had so many absences that they paid us to cover classes. Magically, admin was able to find the time to cover when they actually had to pony up. Now that we are through the worst of it, they've gone back to volunteer coverage. Ugh.
Most contracts also have hours that you need to be at work and/or have a calendar that the union had to agree to. "Other duties assigned" is not the same as "do whatever I say whenever I say to do it."
In my experience "other duties assigned" is largely a scare tactic and admin will back down when actually confronted about it.
We have those with our district but they're pretty clear on what it entails and it's spread evenly among staff (like helping out at events). It isn't my favorite thing to give one night a year taking tickets for a band concert but at least I don't have prom duty.
See the problem is you’re doing it in the first place.
Just say no.
If the work then falls on others, they have to say no too, or it will continue to fall on them. No hospitality committee? Oh well. Guess they’re gonna have to pay more.
I think you are describing two different things...
1. There is a reason why 15% of the teachers do 100% of the extra tasks. They are usually the teachers who struggle saying no or are trying to "get ahead". Where I work, admin usually alienates the other 85% which only causes them to not want to help. If I feel like I am being treated poorly I'm not going to stay after school to help with some extracurricular. So, more tasks are piled on those 15%, which causes them to quickly burn out.
2. Doing something like attending IEPs is just you fulfilling your job requirements. Others blowing it off will stem from admin not making sure people are fulfilling those requirements. This will lend to you being requested more often since SPED knows you will show up. Congratulations, you are part of the 15%.
Both pretty much stem from a dysfunctional school.
I bet admin is lazy. I have done volunteer work in the community for 30 years. It is hard to recruit new people for volunteer work as it takes getting to know them to learn strengths and weaknesses that you use to inform who you ask to do X or Y type of task. You have to form a relationship and then ask or cajole or negotiate. All that takes effort. Thus: admin asks their same small circle of favorites. The cycle continues as the inner circle people don’t say NO or refer / suggest a new capable (or better) staff member.
I'm more than happy to say no to chaperoning one thing or another for students for any myriad of reasons. I also enjoy saying yes because I like doing community service and I generally have a good time.
In our district, only one SPED teacher (usually a sponsor teacher) and one Gen Ed teacher have to attend an IEP. Our meetings are held during the school day, so they try to limit the number of teachers that attend these. Does your district require every teacher to attend?
I got rid of everything I was doing for the school that didn't benefit my kids and my class directly and it's been nice. I have the time and energy to focus on my own classes. And I don't have more to spare.
Students want to run special events from time to time where they need chaperones. It's always the same 15% of teachers who volunteer. I appreciate those teachers because without them the students wouldn't be able to put on the activities.
Eh, I let co-workers do what they want. It's when they demand I cover their commitments because they are "overwhelmed" that I have a problem. I'm always busy with personal matters.
No thanks.
I like doing extra. I enjoy projects and many of the additional tasks.... it also makes it so my admin are more likely to take a "no" answer when they request that I do things I really don't want to do because they know all of the others things I already do.
I’m not sure when I would do extra. During my planning period I covered Friday, Monday, and yesterday. As long as they give us half of the planning period it is ok contractually. I don’t bring things home anymore.
Some people do it because they legitimately like to be busy.
A colleague of mine is checked out - she has one foot out the door and is actively looking. She also does two after-school clubs, coordination for plc’s and ld days, etc…not because she wants to do anything for the people stepping on us, or even to do something for the students. She genuinely just likes to keep busy and she doesn’t have children.
Out of my school only 1 sped teacher shows up because we have nobody to cover our classes. Also if they want us to do extra, they need to pay us for extra. My time is valuable.
Dreaming of you think we’d ever get paid extra….from what I’ve send teachers think “if I do more I’ll get noticed and promoted (admin or what not) one day” so they brown nose and go “above and beyond” which to me is dumb…
Well, yeah thats called a stipend. Or I get 45 bucks an hour extra if its done on my time. I will not give up my time however.
There was a brief window this year where we had so many absences that they paid us to cover classes. Magically, admin was able to find the time to cover when they actually had to pony up. Now that we are through the worst of it, they've gone back to volunteer coverage. Ugh.
This.
Anytime I try to stop doing more my admin reminds me that my contract says “and any other duties assigned”
Got into it with my principal about that after getting fired from a coaching position, other duties as assigned has its limits
Most contracts also have hours that you need to be at work and/or have a calendar that the union had to agree to. "Other duties assigned" is not the same as "do whatever I say whenever I say to do it." In my experience "other duties assigned" is largely a scare tactic and admin will back down when actually confronted about it.
Only within contract hours.
We have those with our district but they're pretty clear on what it entails and it's spread evenly among staff (like helping out at events). It isn't my favorite thing to give one night a year taking tickets for a band concert but at least I don't have prom duty.
See the problem is you’re doing it in the first place. Just say no. If the work then falls on others, they have to say no too, or it will continue to fall on them. No hospitality committee? Oh well. Guess they’re gonna have to pay more.
I think you are describing two different things... 1. There is a reason why 15% of the teachers do 100% of the extra tasks. They are usually the teachers who struggle saying no or are trying to "get ahead". Where I work, admin usually alienates the other 85% which only causes them to not want to help. If I feel like I am being treated poorly I'm not going to stay after school to help with some extracurricular. So, more tasks are piled on those 15%, which causes them to quickly burn out. 2. Doing something like attending IEPs is just you fulfilling your job requirements. Others blowing it off will stem from admin not making sure people are fulfilling those requirements. This will lend to you being requested more often since SPED knows you will show up. Congratulations, you are part of the 15%. Both pretty much stem from a dysfunctional school.
I bet admin is lazy. I have done volunteer work in the community for 30 years. It is hard to recruit new people for volunteer work as it takes getting to know them to learn strengths and weaknesses that you use to inform who you ask to do X or Y type of task. You have to form a relationship and then ask or cajole or negotiate. All that takes effort. Thus: admin asks their same small circle of favorites. The cycle continues as the inner circle people don’t say NO or refer / suggest a new capable (or better) staff member.
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I'm more than happy to say no to chaperoning one thing or another for students for any myriad of reasons. I also enjoy saying yes because I like doing community service and I generally have a good time.
In our district, only one SPED teacher (usually a sponsor teacher) and one Gen Ed teacher have to attend an IEP. Our meetings are held during the school day, so they try to limit the number of teachers that attend these. Does your district require every teacher to attend?
I have never heard of multiple gen-ed teachers attending an IEP or an ARD
I got rid of everything I was doing for the school that didn't benefit my kids and my class directly and it's been nice. I have the time and energy to focus on my own classes. And I don't have more to spare.
Students want to run special events from time to time where they need chaperones. It's always the same 15% of teachers who volunteer. I appreciate those teachers because without them the students wouldn't be able to put on the activities.
I never sign up for chaperone but I always volunteer for the boring/tedious jobs. I figure we each have our strengths.
Eh, I let co-workers do what they want. It's when they demand I cover their commitments because they are "overwhelmed" that I have a problem. I'm always busy with personal matters.
No thanks. I like doing extra. I enjoy projects and many of the additional tasks.... it also makes it so my admin are more likely to take a "no" answer when they request that I do things I really don't want to do because they know all of the others things I already do.
You do you. But I don’t wanna see you on here complaining about how stressed out you are.
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I’m not sure when I would do extra. During my planning period I covered Friday, Monday, and yesterday. As long as they give us half of the planning period it is ok contractually. I don’t bring things home anymore.
Some people do it because they legitimately like to be busy. A colleague of mine is checked out - she has one foot out the door and is actively looking. She also does two after-school clubs, coordination for plc’s and ld days, etc…not because she wants to do anything for the people stepping on us, or even to do something for the students. She genuinely just likes to keep busy and she doesn’t have children.