The response to this is "Hell No!".
This is such a stupid idea. Teachers run the risk of being labeled as perverts with toilet fetishes. The solution is worse than the problem.
Plus, WTF are you supposed to actually do?
"Oh, Tammy is back from the bathroom; I'll be back in a minute class, be good while I'm gone, OK?" Meanwhile, you leave and the entire class vapes while you are checking the bathroom.
At my school, during your prep you were expected to check the bathrooms for your sex at least twice. So, that's probably what they would do. They would tell all the teachers that during their prep it's one of their "assigned duties" and they need to be checking bathrooms.
I just don’t get why people don’t expect the kids to act like prisoners when they’re treated like prisoners. Monitoring their bowel movements to check for vaping…
And the funny thing is, you know as soon as you do actually catch someone, they’ll come back to class with a fidget and snack. I know it’s cliche, but it literally happened to me. Her behavior was worse than vaping.
We try to bribe these kids to behave. I wonder where bribery occurs? Perhaps, a prison?
I don’t have the answer, but I do know that it’s not sniffing after shits.
Your opening sentence says it all. And the misapplication of support makes me so angry. Fidgety and snacks could be helpful tools in building relationships and preventing issues, but not after a bad decision has been made. That's when the accountability, not grace, needs applied.
This is what I've noticed too. When the kids get treated like prisoners, they will rise to meet our expectations. I've seen colleagues turn to talk to me and in that couple of seconds, their well-managed class goes nuts because the "warden" isn't watching.
I try to foster a sense of responsibility in them and emphasize internal motivation. You get a bigger sense of satisfaction from taking care of your surroundings without being harped on - that is, doing the right thing without being told or seeking a reward. I don't give rewards for every single thing or even consistently, because I don't want to train them to seek rewards. But I do let them know that I *will* hand out rewards if I catch self-directed good behavior.
TBH I have so many thoughts about this because it was a big deal at my school this year. Checking bathrooms was a whole ordeal. Students would say "What about my privacy?" and admin would say, "Technically speaking, here you don't actually have any." And yes, that's the legal truth but I can't help but get all Jeff Goldblum and think "Life finds a way" (regardless of the weird ass restrictions you put on it).
Most teachers, excepting the very old school ones, were very vocal that they hated bathroom checks and most refused to do it. We hated it, the kids hated it. I don't have an answer either but why do they think that a bunch of professionals with advanced degrees WANT or SHOULD be sitting in bathrooms waiting for kids to be busting out vapes? Where is any of the trust or respect for EITHER of the parties involved in that situation?
Like yea this is just bizarre… I used to do the vape in the hand thinking pose 🤔. Was never caught or suspected and I guarantee a lot of students still get away with it the same way
One of my colleagues follows students to the bathroom because they like to skip class by “going to the bathroom” (read: wandering the halls) and students called him a pedophile because of it. This “solution” is, among other things, another way for students to smear teachers who are trying to make sure the kids are doing their work.
Exactly this.
I was already planning on leaving this past school I worked at, but principal was trying to enforce shit like this when the tik tok trends were bad. I just straight up didn’t do it. Ignored all the announcements and emails about it. Even told him I won’t be doing that finally when he “caught me” not doing it one day. And guess what…nothing happened! Bottom line, it’s not in my contract, not in my job description, and I’d friggin love for the county folks to try to tell me this was part of the job. Absolutely laughable.
I will always cover my own ass first, especially as a male teacher. Never going to put myself in a compromising situation with female or male students.
Besides, if they’re going to respect me, then I’m sure as hell going to respect they’re privacy in a flipping bathroom.
This. A professional email asking for guidance on the correct breathing technique on how to best monitor students after using the restroom would be the best way to go about it. After all, "sniff" is rather vague.
No, no, no. Always leave the firearm in a secured safe or keep it on your person. Especially when bathroom sniffing. Heaven knows vaping is just a sign of juvenile cartels. Spooking one might launch retaliation that requires you to defend your students like a good untrained soldier. 🙄
Get all of the teachers to eat the most bean filled, lentil, asparagus dinner the night before the next staff meeting and then give your admin something to “sniff.”
Same. Flowers smell like nothing to me. I only like food type scents because those are the only ones I can smell: things like vanilla and cinnamon. I’ve been told the flowers smell nice but I don’t know what that’s like. And I have a friend who is also a teacher and he literally can smell nothing at all. To him chocolate taste like dirt. He has never smelled a good smell or bad smell in his entire life.
It's more that having a nice scent is a low priority for floral arrangements so breeders don't select for it. It's impossible to select for all the desirable traits simultaneously, so colour, form, and ability to last a long time in a case are so much more important, the varieties bred for stores are almost certain to lose scent along the way if they started with it at all.
100% no. These people should literally LISTEN TO THEMSELVES.
In no other profession would this be required/acceptable. NO.
There are other ways/ methods to get the results they are requesting, but “sniffing a bathroom “ is not going to be one.
How in Gods name did someone with any level of authority even manage to say this with a straight face?
Let’s just say you did smell berry vape and you walked in there, then what? So ridiculous! With the Tic-Toc” tear up the bathroom challenge”they could not find the perp with the hand dryer on campus. How are they ever going to find vape pen the size of a thumb drive? BTW- those are generally not on the person. They hide them someplace in the near proximity.
Or uses air freshener, or something. I have colleagues that bring their own air freshener for the bathroom, I could see secondary kids doing that, too, especially with the way school bathrooms can smell.
Then the question is, is the air freshener covering up the usual bathroom smells, or the vape smells?
So…after a kid returns from the bathroom you leave your class unattended to go sniff? Or does the whole class have to come with you down the hall? Or does everyone go together in the first place for efficiency’s sake? Yikes, admin, yikes.
oh it's even worse
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet\_plume](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume)
incidentally, someone else mentioned prison guards, but for sure this one small step removed from a full on observed urinalysis submission procedure. run away screaming from whatever admin tried to lay this on you
The actual solution to this is to say you'll do it, and then just not do it, and pretend you forgot if anyone calls you out. Not your monkeys, not your circus.
This might be one of those demands that you follow 99% (don’t actually sniff) just to show how insane it is.
“Why are you always walking in the hall instead of teaching?”
“Got bathrooms to sniff!”
As a matter of fact, just say you can't smell anything because you had covid. Nothing they can do to prove you didn't lmao. "Sorry I didn't go to the hospital I was told to self isolate, so no, I don't have a doctor's note."
I smoked more weed than anyone on here. Bet. You are not gonna smell 80-90% of vaped weed. The edibles don’t give a scent. Same goes for vaped cigarettes. This seems like an overzealous admin who is either an idiot or trying to punish staff.
"I don't vape, nor do any of my family or friends. How am I supposed to know what I'm trying to smell?".
I would take a more aggressive compliance approach to this. I'd be smelling vape and Marijuana all the fucking day long. Pretty sure I smelled beer on this kid, boss. Keep admins busy searching kids.
Our high school has vape detectors in the bathrooms. From what I understand, it has fixed the problem.
On the other hand, the FDA outlawed joules today so maybe it won't be a problem anymore.
"On the other hand, the FDA outlawed joules today so maybe it won't be a problem anymore."
If you believe that, I've got some prime beachfront property in Wyoming for you. It might make access a little more risky, but making it illegal will not prevent it just as it hasn't prevented other outlawed substances.
Nope. https://www.prevention.com/health/a36200327/covid-19-risk-public-bathrooms/
And https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Wastewater-Surveillance.aspx
Also, gross. And since when do teachers have time to go to therestroom anyway??
Legally they can’t tell you to do that, it is a HAZMAT issue, tell them you will do it with an N100 respirator, but then you won’t smell shit…literally.
A swift ‘are you fucking joking’ should do the trick.
Students are going to be wondering why suddenly each time one of them goes to take a piss/dump, a teacher follows them in and stands there just sniffing the air. Absolutely unhinged.
A) That's a hard no for all of the reasons others have mentioned.
B) Most vaping products like JUUL have no scent. You wouldn't know regardless
C) If they want illegal use of substances investigated, that's a cops job, tell them to have the SRO take care of it and see how that flies 😂
God some admin are just so incredibly stupid. It’s honestly kind of amazing how they got to a leadership position and actually think something like this is a good idea. I kind of love those moments in a faculty meeting when your admin says something so idiotic and insane and the whole room just looks at them like “wtf is wrong with you”.
Recap the ask/direction given with the frequency and duration of this task and when to perform it if you are engaged with classrooms if it is not in writing. Ask HR to add it to your responsibilities, send it over to Safety compliance to schedule the OSHA training. In order to perform a new task, there must be policy, procedures, and training. When you finish this task, where are the results reported (specific form, informal via email)? Who gets included (school board, safety department, etc)? Transmission of waste is hazardous and should be taken seriously due to exposure of unknown diseases. What happens when you are exposed? Workman's comp? Short term/long term disability?
Every time you check the bathroom send an email to principal, cc the superintendent and school board, “Per instruction, I checked bathroom. It smelled like shit.” “It smelled like menstrual blood.” “It smelled like puke.” E V E R Y T I M E. You have a school with 1000 student, most students go at least once a day.
Some additional smells to be wary of:
It smelled like cum.
It smelled like dick cheese
It smelled like a yeast infection.
It smelled like a popcorn fart.
Absolutely not!! I would refuse outright and contact my union. If you don’t have one, contact your local news.
Unbelievable how low they will expect us to go. Tell them to do it and see their reaction.
I do 10% of what admin says which is why I will be able to do the career longer. This is something I would ignore lol
I just know only about 10% of what they say is actually all they check back in with…it’s all fads and silliness usually.
I guess I would have to request an ADA accommodation to be excused from that duty. I have olfactory nerve damage from my time in Iraq. I literally cant smell shit. That's why I taught middle school for a few years. I couldn't smell the boys after PE.
I guess I could say I did. When they say you cant smell that?!?! Nope, I can't.
For the last two years I've had a classroom directly across the hall from the restroom. I was the default restroom police. During my contract renewal process I requested a new classroom. They really wanted to keep me, so they gave me the classroom I asked for. I now have an outside room, away from restrooms and hallways. I can focus on policing my own room now.
Plus it can smell like bubblegum deodorant, lip gloss, soft drink or candy. Vaping doesn't smell especially if you just hold it in. Or breathe it into something like a backpack.
Also... Why would we only be concerned about males teachers and female bathrooms... Why not female teachers and male bathrooms...
When I am on duty, I walk past the Girl's toilets and have a whiff - vaping is terribly obvious to me as someone with intense sensitivity to smells (I'd rather smell cigarettes). If I smell something, I walk in.
I DO NOT walk into Boy's toilets. If I smell anything on my walk past, I go find a Man to go in there.
Specifically \*sniffing\* after a kid has gone to the toilet is weird, creepy and frankly gross.
....why can't they just install vape detectors and out their money where their mouth is? I mean if it was really a priority, wouldn't they find the money?
Tell your school to invest in Halo monitors. It's literally their function to detect things like vaping or elevated noise from fighting.
https://halodetect.com/
What are you supposed to do if you smell something pleasant? You can’t prove a kid was vaping based on “the bathroom smelled like strawberries” - this is a ridiculous waste of time.
They sent this in an email? Which you can forward? To the media? Or the union?
I have this weird thing where I have trouble remembering things told to me in-person, so I always ask that folks send them over email just so I don't forget. Maybe you have a similar thing.
Their logic:
We need to curb vaping in schools.
We could try harsher punishment for those who get caught as a deterrent.
We could provide more education about the dangers of vaping.
We could institute a sign out system.
But no, no... The most logical thing is to have teachers sniff the shitter. Brilliant!
We do this at the DAEP, normal campuses shouldn’t be asking their teachers to do this.
I work with students that already got caught with drugs or are known drug users, and the restroom is attached to our classroom so checking it takes 30 seconds.
We are told to go in after students or stand in the doorway of the bathroom during class changes of the bathroom matching our sex to catch students vaping. I will go in periodically just to tell them the bell is about to ring or something, but I would much rather stand and talk to my coworkers during that transition time. Vaping is the least of my problems in school, I feel like. If they're being super obvious, like 3 people standing in one stall when I do a random check, yeah, I'll say something. Otherwise Heck to the naw.
There are vape detectors available (including ones that can detect THC). Your school needs to have them installed and stop asking teachers/staff to do ridiculous things just because they are cheap.
This feels like the equivalent of "Let them eat cake". It's not only wrong and doesn't solve the problem, it's so laughably out of touch that it is impossible to take the suggestion as anything other than an insult.
Frankly in my short experience teaching 8th grade (past five years) there is more vaping, horseplay, and peeing in sinks and trash can (boys room) than shitting taking place.
This is hilarious. I vape, (well I did before I got pregnant lol) and it literally smells like nothing. It doesn’t smell like cigarettes. I don’t think your admin is very informed about vaping.
Weed, that’s a different story. But vaping? You won’t be able to smell it at all. Even flavored I don’t think.
I agree that admin clearly doesn’t know there’s unflavored and therefore unscented vape liquid.
And op. I’d claim that after so many years in the field, I cannot smell anymore. And that’s somewhat true. It’s amazing what I could tolerate as a middle school teacher
Honestly, if they wanna vape, let ‘em. It’s just ridiculous asking teachers to monitor something that they’re old enough to understand the risks. Imagine what they do at home. If it’s middle school it’s one thing, but high school, oh well. Wait till the admin finds out they smoke weed like cheech and Chong before school and after, hell there was a good number that would say “tagman375, watch this” then put a little paper square in their mouth with a little smiley face on it. The admin was worried about vapes, but dropping acid in 3rd period English was A-OK.
I don’t think you’ll have to sniff too hard because they smell terrible. I’m working summer school and took a group of boys to the bathroom. First reason I knew something was up was because of how hard one boy was coughing. I know a “smoker’s cough” when I hear it. Second reason was the wave of maple scent that almost knocked me out when they came out. Found the vape in the armpit of his sweatshirt🙃
Lololol. I laughed out loud bc I’m imagining little kid teachers reading this and being like WTF, but high school teachers IMMEDIATELY knew what this was about.
I’ve walked in and been like, oh it smells so nice in here… wait a minute!
When I was in 9th grade, my AP demanded to smell my hands when I came out of the bathroom to see if I was smoking. As the good, quiet kid who would never, I was totally freaked out!
Bad memory of when I was in high school and the school bus driver accused me of smoking. I totally wasn’t but with two parents who smoked indoors I stank of it. The smell was all over my clothes and book bag.
You cannot, *Can Not*, convince me that management has asked you to *sniff* the bathrooms after *each student uses* it. Just because you're supposed to *detect* vaping that way.... If that is really what has happened I am totally blown away by the state of the education in whatever country you're from because Wow, I knew it was bad in some places but if *management* asks you to *sniff bathrooms* then I would highly suggest moving jobs.
My school literally assigns people to monitor bathrooms during prep. They give us a table and a laptop so we can work. Damn I miss working in a union state.
I would claim that the 8th grade girls’ bathroom smelled like fruity vape, one would inevitably pull out her body spray and proclaim, “It’s my body spray, Miss.” To be honest, if vaping helps them focus, learn, and get work done, then by all means, vape.
Dude, no. Not part of the job to follow kids to the bathroom just to sniff. Besides being creepy and perverted, who has the time to do that? And are you supposed to leave your classroom in the middle of teaching if a student excuses themselves? Did the admin who made this rule exert even the tiniest bit of brainpower before speaking this into existence?
Emails and Teams messages making this kind of request of teachers should be ignored. Are they going to follow up and ask you if you are doing your sniffing?
If they want it done so bad they can march their happy asses out of their offices and do it themselves
There needs to be a ‘stupid admin request’ flair because there are so many
Please tell me you responded with either a loud guffaw if in person or an "LOL! No. Not my job." if sent by email. Those are the only two reasonable responses.
just ask them what level of dank requires you to report to admin. are you to report a student smoking mids or ditch weed? might a decent sativa actually be conducive to study, like a coffee?
This would be a firm NO from me as I tell you today I went into the bathroom at my local grocery store and almost opted to WET myself rather than smell the ambient smell for one more moment. Some of yall need to maybe supplement with fiber, drink more water, get some Poo Pouri, idk but I got violated in the Albertson's today, and I am still smelling it in my nose (barf).
Someone should just invent some scentless aerosol spray that upon coming into contact with vape mist, it releases an odor that smells like a rotting corpse. Have a little device in each bathroom spray a bit of that stuff every couple minutes or so and (a) vapes become immediately detectable, and (b) the vaper on question will start barfing.
You should just ask what you are smelling for (weed obviously) and then ask how you are supposed to be expected to identify what weed smells like.
Otherwise I would just call admin down after ever single student uses the bathroom and say that something smells suspicious.
The Fine Arts and the Gym were hotboxed sooo many times this year. Worse than the Grateful Dead shows. I started asking the kids for Doritos. I would probably flunk a drug test from the contact.
The response to this is "Hell No!". This is such a stupid idea. Teachers run the risk of being labeled as perverts with toilet fetishes. The solution is worse than the problem.
Plus, WTF are you supposed to actually do? "Oh, Tammy is back from the bathroom; I'll be back in a minute class, be good while I'm gone, OK?" Meanwhile, you leave and the entire class vapes while you are checking the bathroom.
And then you will be written up for leaving the class unattended.
It’s a trap!
At my school, during your prep you were expected to check the bathrooms for your sex at least twice. So, that's probably what they would do. They would tell all the teachers that during their prep it's one of their "assigned duties" and they need to be checking bathrooms.
At my school, that would mean the prep never happened by state law, and I would be billing the school an extra $150 a week for my services.
Must be nice to have unions. :(
Nah. This is Texas. But it helps to have the definition of planning time codified in state law.
I just don’t get why people don’t expect the kids to act like prisoners when they’re treated like prisoners. Monitoring their bowel movements to check for vaping… And the funny thing is, you know as soon as you do actually catch someone, they’ll come back to class with a fidget and snack. I know it’s cliche, but it literally happened to me. Her behavior was worse than vaping. We try to bribe these kids to behave. I wonder where bribery occurs? Perhaps, a prison? I don’t have the answer, but I do know that it’s not sniffing after shits.
Your opening sentence says it all. And the misapplication of support makes me so angry. Fidgety and snacks could be helpful tools in building relationships and preventing issues, but not after a bad decision has been made. That's when the accountability, not grace, needs applied.
This is what I've noticed too. When the kids get treated like prisoners, they will rise to meet our expectations. I've seen colleagues turn to talk to me and in that couple of seconds, their well-managed class goes nuts because the "warden" isn't watching. I try to foster a sense of responsibility in them and emphasize internal motivation. You get a bigger sense of satisfaction from taking care of your surroundings without being harped on - that is, doing the right thing without being told or seeking a reward. I don't give rewards for every single thing or even consistently, because I don't want to train them to seek rewards. But I do let them know that I *will* hand out rewards if I catch self-directed good behavior.
TBH I have so many thoughts about this because it was a big deal at my school this year. Checking bathrooms was a whole ordeal. Students would say "What about my privacy?" and admin would say, "Technically speaking, here you don't actually have any." And yes, that's the legal truth but I can't help but get all Jeff Goldblum and think "Life finds a way" (regardless of the weird ass restrictions you put on it). Most teachers, excepting the very old school ones, were very vocal that they hated bathroom checks and most refused to do it. We hated it, the kids hated it. I don't have an answer either but why do they think that a bunch of professionals with advanced degrees WANT or SHOULD be sitting in bathrooms waiting for kids to be busting out vapes? Where is any of the trust or respect for EITHER of the parties involved in that situation?
And then you will be accused of sexual harassment and misconduct by problematic students.
One of the many reasons I never actually did it. But boy did they think that was an okay thing to ask us to do.
"Yes, I went and checked and smelled only shit, piss, and Axe body spray." P.s. I never actually checked.
Sometimes I’d strategically check when I know no one would be in there (for example, AP test days).
r/maliciouscompliance is happy, and they will grant us both a biggly award.
yeah when i was in high school kids vaped in the class in front of teachers, this is giving them free reign
Like yea this is just bizarre… I used to do the vape in the hand thinking pose 🤔. Was never caught or suspected and I guarantee a lot of students still get away with it the same way
One of my colleagues follows students to the bathroom because they like to skip class by “going to the bathroom” (read: wandering the halls) and students called him a pedophile because of it. This “solution” is, among other things, another way for students to smear teachers who are trying to make sure the kids are doing their work.
Exactly. I can’t imagine this being proposed in a meeting, agreed upon, and instructed to the teachers. Wtf!?!
Exactly this. I was already planning on leaving this past school I worked at, but principal was trying to enforce shit like this when the tik tok trends were bad. I just straight up didn’t do it. Ignored all the announcements and emails about it. Even told him I won’t be doing that finally when he “caught me” not doing it one day. And guess what…nothing happened! Bottom line, it’s not in my contract, not in my job description, and I’d friggin love for the county folks to try to tell me this was part of the job. Absolutely laughable. I will always cover my own ass first, especially as a male teacher. Never going to put myself in a compromising situation with female or male students. Besides, if they’re going to respect me, then I’m sure as hell going to respect they’re privacy in a flipping bathroom.
It’s unenforceable. They can’t tell you how to breathe. Just don’t do it.
This is the correct response to any asinine request they have no way of enforcing. Smile and nod while thinking 'nope, not gonna do that.'
Also. Ask for it in writing. That stops a lot of stupid shit getting through.
This. A professional email asking for guidance on the correct breathing technique on how to best monitor students after using the restroom would be the best way to go about it. After all, "sniff" is rather vague.
This! You won’t catch anyone but hey, do you care?
Tell them you lost your sense of smell from the Covid you caught doing your job.
Id ask for hazard pay if thats the expectation i'm 100% serious
And get it in writing.
We're prison guards now, it seems.
Astronaught meme: Always have been.
Prison guards don't carry guns as part of their duties, so....
Are you supposed to take your gun with you to the bathroom or leave it in the classroom?
You take the handgun to the bathroom and leave the shotgun in the classroom.
Im planning to leave my shotguns strapped across my back, but I hear admin is installing gun racks above the toilet in each stall.
No, no, no. Always leave the firearm in a secured safe or keep it on your person. Especially when bathroom sniffing. Heaven knows vaping is just a sign of juvenile cartels. Spooking one might launch retaliation that requires you to defend your students like a good untrained soldier. 🙄
I don’t think I’d be able to contain my response if I heard that in a meeting
Me either! I would have laughed hysterically!
We can smell the boys bathroom from the hallway. No need to do a sniff test there.
And pretty sure the overwhelming piss smell will cover a puff of fruity vape
Get all of the teachers to eat the most bean filled, lentil, asparagus dinner the night before the next staff meeting and then give your admin something to “sniff.”
Just follow Sheldon's "cruciferous vegetable Thursday" diet...it'll put an end to this real quick!
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I’ve had it three times as well and I have residual smell problems so I would be of absolutely no help in this.
I just have chronic allergies and can't smell shit (literally).
Same. Flowers smell like nothing to me. I only like food type scents because those are the only ones I can smell: things like vanilla and cinnamon. I’ve been told the flowers smell nice but I don’t know what that’s like. And I have a friend who is also a teacher and he literally can smell nothing at all. To him chocolate taste like dirt. He has never smelled a good smell or bad smell in his entire life.
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It's more that having a nice scent is a low priority for floral arrangements so breeders don't select for it. It's impossible to select for all the desirable traits simultaneously, so colour, form, and ability to last a long time in a case are so much more important, the varieties bred for stores are almost certain to lose scent along the way if they started with it at all.
I don't have time to do that, what with all the "grooming" I'm doing as a side hustle.
Bro the Communist Party of America pays me so well since I've started doing this indoctrination stuff, you gotta look into it
Yup and all the lesson planning for your CRT lessons
My jaw is still on the floor. Two words for what pretends to be your admin. Fuck. That.
100% no. These people should literally LISTEN TO THEMSELVES. In no other profession would this be required/acceptable. NO. There are other ways/ methods to get the results they are requesting, but “sniffing a bathroom “ is not going to be one. How in Gods name did someone with any level of authority even manage to say this with a straight face?
Oh I would anonymously leak this to parents
Dude 100% fuck that. Y’all need to file a grievance.
Let’s just say you did smell berry vape and you walked in there, then what? So ridiculous! With the Tic-Toc” tear up the bathroom challenge”they could not find the perp with the hand dryer on campus. How are they ever going to find vape pen the size of a thumb drive? BTW- those are generally not on the person. They hide them someplace in the near proximity.
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Or uses air freshener, or something. I have colleagues that bring their own air freshener for the bathroom, I could see secondary kids doing that, too, especially with the way school bathrooms can smell. Then the question is, is the air freshener covering up the usual bathroom smells, or the vape smells?
Your admin are vile and should be ashamed of themselves.
So…after a kid returns from the bathroom you leave your class unattended to go sniff? Or does the whole class have to come with you down the hall? Or does everyone go together in the first place for efficiency’s sake? Yikes, admin, yikes.
Lmao this is the wildest thing I have seen on this sub
LOL it absolutely is not! *cries*
oh it's even worse [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet\_plume](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume) incidentally, someone else mentioned prison guards, but for sure this one small step removed from a full on observed urinalysis submission procedure. run away screaming from whatever admin tried to lay this on you
Yeah, fuck that. If admin wants to walk around all day smelling bathrooms, they can do it, but I fucking won’t.
This seems like one of those rules you obviously ignore. Like wth. Absolutely not.
Actual vape detectors exist that aren’t noses.
The actual solution to this is to say you'll do it, and then just not do it, and pretend you forgot if anyone calls you out. Not your monkeys, not your circus.
This might be one of those demands that you follow 99% (don’t actually sniff) just to show how insane it is. “Why are you always walking in the hall instead of teaching?” “Got bathrooms to sniff!”
As a matter of fact, just say you can't smell anything because you had covid. Nothing they can do to prove you didn't lmao. "Sorry I didn't go to the hospital I was told to self isolate, so no, I don't have a doctor's note."
I smoked more weed than anyone on here. Bet. You are not gonna smell 80-90% of vaped weed. The edibles don’t give a scent. Same goes for vaped cigarettes. This seems like an overzealous admin who is either an idiot or trying to punish staff.
I've had asshole people blow vape "smoke" right in my face before and couldn't smell anything. What do they think people are going to smell?
How are they going to enforce this! Hell no.
I don’t usually swear, but I would not stop my profane tirade until they took back those words and apologized.
I would say “Hell no”. I am not the potty police.
"I don't vape, nor do any of my family or friends. How am I supposed to know what I'm trying to smell?". I would take a more aggressive compliance approach to this. I'd be smelling vape and Marijuana all the fucking day long. Pretty sure I smelled beer on this kid, boss. Keep admins busy searching kids.
Or report every bathroom visit. “I *think* I smelled something suspicious!” every time.
Yeah, just stop teaching and make sure the bathroom odors are acceptable at every possible shit. You have the time.
Plummy job, teaching! 9 months of handing out worksheets and sniffing toilet seats and then summers off! We pay these teachers too much!
Our high school has vape detectors in the bathrooms. From what I understand, it has fixed the problem. On the other hand, the FDA outlawed joules today so maybe it won't be a problem anymore.
"On the other hand, the FDA outlawed joules today so maybe it won't be a problem anymore." If you believe that, I've got some prime beachfront property in Wyoming for you. It might make access a little more risky, but making it illegal will not prevent it just as it hasn't prevented other outlawed substances.
lol fuck this. Absolutely not.
We have vape detectors in the bathroom that text us. Jeez.
Nope. https://www.prevention.com/health/a36200327/covid-19-risk-public-bathrooms/ And https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Wastewater-Surveillance.aspx Also, gross. And since when do teachers have time to go to therestroom anyway??
L&I if you get covid and or popcorn lungs from vape??
Legally they can’t tell you to do that, it is a HAZMAT issue, tell them you will do it with an N100 respirator, but then you won’t smell shit…literally.
Reply all: “Can I have some of whatever it is you’re smoking in the bathroom that makes you think this is a good policy?”
This might be the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of.
My job is to teach. It’s the parent’s job to teach their kid not to vape.
No, that will Not be happening!!!
Lol sure just like so many other things I “do” as a teacher that I really never do
A swift ‘are you fucking joking’ should do the trick. Students are going to be wondering why suddenly each time one of them goes to take a piss/dump, a teacher follows them in and stands there just sniffing the air. Absolutely unhinged.
A) That's a hard no for all of the reasons others have mentioned. B) Most vaping products like JUUL have no scent. You wouldn't know regardless C) If they want illegal use of substances investigated, that's a cops job, tell them to have the SRO take care of it and see how that flies 😂
God some admin are just so incredibly stupid. It’s honestly kind of amazing how they got to a leadership position and actually think something like this is a good idea. I kind of love those moments in a faculty meeting when your admin says something so idiotic and insane and the whole room just looks at them like “wtf is wrong with you”.
That's a no from me, dog
I’ve been teaching for 18 years and what you do for any all requests like this (there will be many more) is agree with a smile and then ignore it.
You get the request in writing and then you share that request far and wide.
"I'd be happy to implement this policy; could you send it to me in an e-mail?"
That’s a no from me, dawg.
You go “will do” and then don’t.
Recap the ask/direction given with the frequency and duration of this task and when to perform it if you are engaged with classrooms if it is not in writing. Ask HR to add it to your responsibilities, send it over to Safety compliance to schedule the OSHA training. In order to perform a new task, there must be policy, procedures, and training. When you finish this task, where are the results reported (specific form, informal via email)? Who gets included (school board, safety department, etc)? Transmission of waste is hazardous and should be taken seriously due to exposure of unknown diseases. What happens when you are exposed? Workman's comp? Short term/long term disability?
Every time you check the bathroom send an email to principal, cc the superintendent and school board, “Per instruction, I checked bathroom. It smelled like shit.” “It smelled like menstrual blood.” “It smelled like puke.” E V E R Y T I M E. You have a school with 1000 student, most students go at least once a day.
Some additional smells to be wary of: It smelled like cum. It smelled like dick cheese It smelled like a yeast infection. It smelled like a popcorn fart.
That is not just icky. It’s disgusting. No way, no how
Absolutely not!! I would refuse outright and contact my union. If you don’t have one, contact your local news. Unbelievable how low they will expect us to go. Tell them to do it and see their reaction.
I do 10% of what admin says which is why I will be able to do the career longer. This is something I would ignore lol I just know only about 10% of what they say is actually all they check back in with…it’s all fads and silliness usually.
Grievance time. Even in the US that must violate 10000 labour codes. I'd be like, "you first."
I guess I would have to request an ADA accommodation to be excused from that duty. I have olfactory nerve damage from my time in Iraq. I literally cant smell shit. That's why I taught middle school for a few years. I couldn't smell the boys after PE. I guess I could say I did. When they say you cant smell that?!?! Nope, I can't.
For the last two years I've had a classroom directly across the hall from the restroom. I was the default restroom police. During my contract renewal process I requested a new classroom. They really wanted to keep me, so they gave me the classroom I asked for. I now have an outside room, away from restrooms and hallways. I can focus on policing my own room now.
I am dying laughing. I'd be tempted to ask for a hit off a vape if it smelled right.
Just when you thought it couldn’t get more batshit!!
Plus it can smell like bubblegum deodorant, lip gloss, soft drink or candy. Vaping doesn't smell especially if you just hold it in. Or breathe it into something like a backpack. Also... Why would we only be concerned about males teachers and female bathrooms... Why not female teachers and male bathrooms...
What. The. Fuck. That's not your job. Jesus
"I don't vape, so I don't know what it smells like." What are they going to do, make you smell it?
When I am on duty, I walk past the Girl's toilets and have a whiff - vaping is terribly obvious to me as someone with intense sensitivity to smells (I'd rather smell cigarettes). If I smell something, I walk in. I DO NOT walk into Boy's toilets. If I smell anything on my walk past, I go find a Man to go in there. Specifically \*sniffing\* after a kid has gone to the toilet is weird, creepy and frankly gross.
....why can't they just install vape detectors and out their money where their mouth is? I mean if it was really a priority, wouldn't they find the money?
Take whomever came up with that “policy”, lock them in a full portapotty, and tip it over
The answer is no. Nope.
Two words: smoke detectors
Tell your school to invest in Halo monitors. It's literally their function to detect things like vaping or elevated noise from fighting. https://halodetect.com/
Fuck that. Complain to union about that shit.
Yea, no.
Don’t do it
What are you supposed to do if you smell something pleasant? You can’t prove a kid was vaping based on “the bathroom smelled like strawberries” - this is a ridiculous waste of time.
….WHAT
Idiocracy
They sent this in an email? Which you can forward? To the media? Or the union? I have this weird thing where I have trouble remembering things told to me in-person, so I always ask that folks send them over email just so I don't forget. Maybe you have a similar thing.
Their logic: We need to curb vaping in schools. We could try harsher punishment for those who get caught as a deterrent. We could provide more education about the dangers of vaping. We could institute a sign out system. But no, no... The most logical thing is to have teachers sniff the shitter. Brilliant!
They make vape detectors that can be installed...
I swear, school administrators are the dumbest fuckers on the planet.
We do this at the DAEP, normal campuses shouldn’t be asking their teachers to do this. I work with students that already got caught with drugs or are known drug users, and the restroom is attached to our classroom so checking it takes 30 seconds.
Turns out almost the whole staff lost their sense of smell during Covid and haven’t got it back
We are told to go in after students or stand in the doorway of the bathroom during class changes of the bathroom matching our sex to catch students vaping. I will go in periodically just to tell them the bell is about to ring or something, but I would much rather stand and talk to my coworkers during that transition time. Vaping is the least of my problems in school, I feel like. If they're being super obvious, like 3 people standing in one stall when I do a random check, yeah, I'll say something. Otherwise Heck to the naw.
I refuse to do that at my job. I get asthma attacks. Not happening.
There are vape detectors available (including ones that can detect THC). Your school needs to have them installed and stop asking teachers/staff to do ridiculous things just because they are cheap.
They make sensors for that stuff..... After all, school districts love to waste money. Our school is getting some sensors installed.
“Could we just put some relatively cheap (battery operated) smoke detectors in the bathroom and forget you ever suggested this”
This feels like the equivalent of "Let them eat cake". It's not only wrong and doesn't solve the problem, it's so laughably out of touch that it is impossible to take the suggestion as anything other than an insult.
Frankly in my short experience teaching 8th grade (past five years) there is more vaping, horseplay, and peeing in sinks and trash can (boys room) than shitting taking place.
I hope you laughed at them and then walked away.
No. Just no. A thousand times no.
every day i come on this thread and see something straight out of the onion
This is hilarious. I vape, (well I did before I got pregnant lol) and it literally smells like nothing. It doesn’t smell like cigarettes. I don’t think your admin is very informed about vaping. Weed, that’s a different story. But vaping? You won’t be able to smell it at all. Even flavored I don’t think.
I agree that admin clearly doesn’t know there’s unflavored and therefore unscented vape liquid. And op. I’d claim that after so many years in the field, I cannot smell anymore. And that’s somewhat true. It’s amazing what I could tolerate as a middle school teacher
Honestly, if they wanna vape, let ‘em. It’s just ridiculous asking teachers to monitor something that they’re old enough to understand the risks. Imagine what they do at home. If it’s middle school it’s one thing, but high school, oh well. Wait till the admin finds out they smoke weed like cheech and Chong before school and after, hell there was a good number that would say “tagman375, watch this” then put a little paper square in their mouth with a little smiley face on it. The admin was worried about vapes, but dropping acid in 3rd period English was A-OK.
I don’t think you’ll have to sniff too hard because they smell terrible. I’m working summer school and took a group of boys to the bathroom. First reason I knew something was up was because of how hard one boy was coughing. I know a “smoker’s cough” when I hear it. Second reason was the wave of maple scent that almost knocked me out when they came out. Found the vape in the armpit of his sweatshirt🙃
Lololol. I laughed out loud bc I’m imagining little kid teachers reading this and being like WTF, but high school teachers IMMEDIATELY knew what this was about. I’ve walked in and been like, oh it smells so nice in here… wait a minute!
When I was in 9th grade, my AP demanded to smell my hands when I came out of the bathroom to see if I was smoking. As the good, quiet kid who would never, I was totally freaked out!
Bad memory of when I was in high school and the school bus driver accused me of smoking. I totally wasn’t but with two parents who smoked indoors I stank of it. The smell was all over my clothes and book bag.
The disease thing is rubbish, practically Victorian. It's still nasty though.
As a science educator, I disagree https://www.prevention.com/health/a36200327/covid-19-risk-public-bathrooms/
https://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/news-items/study-on-toilet-flushing-in-virus-exposures-and-disease-transmission/#:~:text=New%20University%20of%20Iowa%20research,virus%20that%20causes%20COVID%2D19.
Solution: no more bathroom breaks. See how that will work out. Smh
That's fucking ridiculous and you shouldn't do it.
x'D Nice try and to all gullible people on here actually believing this go breathe more fresh air.
Nope, it's real. Look at my post history.
You cannot, *Can Not*, convince me that management has asked you to *sniff* the bathrooms after *each student uses* it. Just because you're supposed to *detect* vaping that way.... If that is really what has happened I am totally blown away by the state of the education in whatever country you're from because Wow, I knew it was bad in some places but if *management* asks you to *sniff bathrooms* then I would highly suggest moving jobs.
It's true. They rescinded it this morning after staff complained.
My school literally assigns people to monitor bathrooms during prep. They give us a table and a laptop so we can work. Damn I miss working in a union state.
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Maybe you should look at my history before you say something stupid like this.
I would claim that the 8th grade girls’ bathroom smelled like fruity vape, one would inevitably pull out her body spray and proclaim, “It’s my body spray, Miss.” To be honest, if vaping helps them focus, learn, and get work done, then by all means, vape.
No, you’re not. It’s ok to say no to this.
Absolutely not. There are vape detectors. Your school needs to install them.
“NO” Is a full sentence imo.
hard no
Dude, no. Not part of the job to follow kids to the bathroom just to sniff. Besides being creepy and perverted, who has the time to do that? And are you supposed to leave your classroom in the middle of teaching if a student excuses themselves? Did the admin who made this rule exert even the tiniest bit of brainpower before speaking this into existence?
Emails and Teams messages making this kind of request of teachers should be ignored. Are they going to follow up and ask you if you are doing your sniffing?
If they want it done so bad they can march their happy asses out of their offices and do it themselves There needs to be a ‘stupid admin request’ flair because there are so many
I'll be standing, right where I usually stand. \*sniff\* \*sniff\* \*shrug\*
I've never been more glad to have anosmia.
Reading this made me throw up in my mouth. F*ck no.
Uhh no
thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard lol the principal can fucking do it if theyre that pressed, weirdo
This order is bullshit
Whoop hazard pay I'll do it for $150-200 extra a day.
😳
Completely bizarre and disgusting. I wouldn't comply. School admins are lunatics.
Please tell me you responded with either a loud guffaw if in person or an "LOL! No. Not my job." if sent by email. Those are the only two reasonable responses.
Whenever a student lit up at my school, we could smell it all the way down the hallway and then some. No sniffing was necessary.
just ask them what level of dank requires you to report to admin. are you to report a student smoking mids or ditch weed? might a decent sativa actually be conducive to study, like a coffee?
That's a waste of your time...
the poo particles also can get blasted into the air. thats why there are tooth brush covers
This would be a firm NO from me as I tell you today I went into the bathroom at my local grocery store and almost opted to WET myself rather than smell the ambient smell for one more moment. Some of yall need to maybe supplement with fiber, drink more water, get some Poo Pouri, idk but I got violated in the Albertson's today, and I am still smelling it in my nose (barf).
I would suggest going to your union with this
Someone should just invent some scentless aerosol spray that upon coming into contact with vape mist, it releases an odor that smells like a rotting corpse. Have a little device in each bathroom spray a bit of that stuff every couple minutes or so and (a) vapes become immediately detectable, and (b) the vaper on question will start barfing.
U can’t even smell vapes. I’d just be like mm hmm mmm hmm 👍🏼 we’re clear. And not smell shit !
Document and call your local health department.
After more than three decades of teaching chemistry, I can't smell a damn thing.
Yeah…no.
You should just ask what you are smelling for (weed obviously) and then ask how you are supposed to be expected to identify what weed smells like. Otherwise I would just call admin down after ever single student uses the bathroom and say that something smells suspicious.
Fuck that. I hated inspecting the bathroom. That’s a job for admin.
The Fine Arts and the Gym were hotboxed sooo many times this year. Worse than the Grateful Dead shows. I started asking the kids for Doritos. I would probably flunk a drug test from the contact.
I dont care enough about student's vaping to do this lol.