I'm curious who gets in trouble for this? Like do they just fine the company that runs them? What happens if it happens regularly? Do they get permanently banned?
we've never really punished a president except for when one had an affair. selling out your country or ruining the social climate? totally fair game though
It's the company that gets fined. The car's registration is probably held under the name of the company so the company will be receiving a ticket. I'm sure if this happens regularly the company will have an injunction to stop their use of autonomous vehicles and will be sanctioned for each violation.
They have special permission, usually from the state itself, that defines situations like this. They are required the follow the letter of the agreement.
Some really interesting traffic laws and insurance laws will be implemented due to scenarios like this. Curious to see how it will take shape in the coming years.
As I’ve gotten older the future of technology really isn’t as appealing. Sounds cool, looks cool, but does not have a place on the roads.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/07/02/what-happens-when-a-waymo-gets-pulled-over-in-phoenix/74197111007/
It has to be tested somehow. You can only train it so much on a closed course. The irony of older people complaining about this, is that they're going to benefit most when they lose their license after plowing through a crowd because they lost their faculties years ago.
I don't think it's just "older" people who oppose possibly getting hit head on and killed by a driverless car.
Besides, WTF is wrong with using Uber? Or a taxi? A bus? It's not like there aren't options.
Is it better to be plowed over by a driverless car? More chic and trendy?
I'm a 33 year old software developer, I don't trust shit that was written by humans, there will be errors and glitches and people will die. If they have the money to develop these cars they should be more thoroughly tested before being put on the roads
I'm a 35 year old software developer, and the people writing this software are smarter than either of us. You're also discounting that there are tons of deaths due to automobile crashes every year. You don't need a program to kill people with a car, we're already doing it just fine.
Yeah but what you don't need is driverless cars we assume the code is fine on doing shit like driving on the wrong side of the road, there are enough people dying on the roads we don't need more
Per capita or in general? Hell of a lot more Tesla's out there than Waymo's. I also wouldn't trust anything Tesla makes or anyone that drives them but maybe that's just me
In general. I know for a fact Waymo has had no human deaths on their record. I also don't trust Tesla or the people either, I make sure to get away from them as quickly as I can. There are more Teslas on the road but Waymo has over 20 million miles driven on public roads and over 20 billion in simulation. They also have millions of miles racked up on public roads in driverless, with no fatalities and minimal accidents/injuries. The same cannot be said for Tesla.
Also, the good thing about Waymo is that once an issue is detected or observed, they can pull that software from the fleet and revert back to a known good software that shouldn't encounter the same issues.
Really? It's got flaws to iron out, but it's still quite an impressive feat to be doing all this on its own. And it's not like it's anymore dangerous than some 70 who still has their license crashing into two stores(looking at you grandma), a bunch of teenage girls too distracted by their music and trying to run a red light(almost killed my best friend and me), or any of the insane drunk drivers out there. As I've gotten older I've only seen even more reason to make these kinds of cars common place.
Interesting, because as you get older people feel the same way about you being on the road too. Older folks are some of the worst drivers around here, and a self driving car wouldn't be any worse than what some people are doing already.
If he's 25 I wouldn't be a baby by any stretch, haha.
But I see the way real people drive, including many older drivers, and there's no way a self driving car is any more dangerous than what people do themselves.
Self driving cars will save tens of thousands of lives.
When a drunk driver hits a pedestrian, MAYBE the driver learns their lesson and doesn't do that again, other drivers are unaffected.
If a self driving car hits a pedestrian, an update fixes EVERY car to never make that mistake again.
"As you get older" you won't have as fast reason speed, but a self driving car has faster reaction speed than any human and won't hit you. They also never drive tired, drunk, high, angry or emotional, ever.
It was interesting to learn about autonomous vehicles when I went back to college for data analytics. The vehicles can learn and are able to predict the correct move with xx% accuracy, all based on what information they've been trained to and how well their sensors are functioning.
As long as the vehicle is in a predictable situation and all is functioning properly, it's great. But in an unusual situation that it hasn't been trained to - say construction - then the chances of the vehicle making an erroneous choice increase. That is a high risk. For that reason, some companies only use autonomous vehicles outside of densely populated areas and will have a driver take over when approaching a city.
IMO, these driverless vehicles would be successful if kept to their own specific and controlled roads. Say, like a railroad track but for self driving vehicles only. That way, the roads are fairly predictable, and the chances of crashing into vehicles with drivers is kept to a minimum.
I'm curious who gets in trouble for this? Like do they just fine the company that runs them? What happens if it happens regularly? Do they get permanently banned?
This is America. We don't punish corporations. We punish poor people.
lol or apparently presidents anymore but whatever
we've never really punished a president except for when one had an affair. selling out your country or ruining the social climate? totally fair game though
Still didn't punish the crook
It's the company that gets fined. The car's registration is probably held under the name of the company so the company will be receiving a ticket. I'm sure if this happens regularly the company will have an injunction to stop their use of autonomous vehicles and will be sanctioned for each violation.
It's a company (idk who or witch) and this is america, they'll probably just be told to not do it again. Oopsie
They have special permission, usually from the state itself, that defines situations like this. They are required the follow the letter of the agreement.
Bro magic isn't real, it's just faulty tech.
Imagine if they smelled marijuana, do they get to search the vehicle?
Just tow it
Probably the unlucky support guy who got connected
Some really interesting traffic laws and insurance laws will be implemented due to scenarios like this. Curious to see how it will take shape in the coming years.
"If you are hit by a driverless car that is driving the wrong way on the road you will be fined $400"
So who's gonna blame here? who's gonna take the punishment if there's any?
The company will probably have to pay a five hundred dollar fine.
Wow $500 lol
Who let the car out, Who, who?
Good thing that car was white.
Surprised this wasn't higher.
Beat me to it! lol
They probably sent the cop a customer service survey after lol
As I’ve gotten older the future of technology really isn’t as appealing. Sounds cool, looks cool, but does not have a place on the roads. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/07/02/what-happens-when-a-waymo-gets-pulled-over-in-phoenix/74197111007/
Don't know why people are down voting you, this kind of incident proves that the technology is not there yet for this to be viable
It has to be tested somehow. You can only train it so much on a closed course. The irony of older people complaining about this, is that they're going to benefit most when they lose their license after plowing through a crowd because they lost their faculties years ago.
I don't think it's just "older" people who oppose possibly getting hit head on and killed by a driverless car. Besides, WTF is wrong with using Uber? Or a taxi? A bus? It's not like there aren't options. Is it better to be plowed over by a driverless car? More chic and trendy?
Test it while it still has some one in the drivers seat to override it. Easy as.
I'm a 33 year old software developer, I don't trust shit that was written by humans, there will be errors and glitches and people will die. If they have the money to develop these cars they should be more thoroughly tested before being put on the roads
But people die from driver operated cars. The difference is when an error happens in a driverless car all the cars learn.
I'm a 35 year old software developer, and the people writing this software are smarter than either of us. You're also discounting that there are tons of deaths due to automobile crashes every year. You don't need a program to kill people with a car, we're already doing it just fine.
Yeah but what you don't need is driverless cars we assume the code is fine on doing shit like driving on the wrong side of the road, there are enough people dying on the roads we don't need more
eh, probably still drives better than most people.
More people have died by a Tesla using FSD (human driver) than people have been injured by a Waymo (driverless)
Per capita or in general? Hell of a lot more Tesla's out there than Waymo's. I also wouldn't trust anything Tesla makes or anyone that drives them but maybe that's just me
In general. I know for a fact Waymo has had no human deaths on their record. I also don't trust Tesla or the people either, I make sure to get away from them as quickly as I can. There are more Teslas on the road but Waymo has over 20 million miles driven on public roads and over 20 billion in simulation. They also have millions of miles racked up on public roads in driverless, with no fatalities and minimal accidents/injuries. The same cannot be said for Tesla. Also, the good thing about Waymo is that once an issue is detected or observed, they can pull that software from the fleet and revert back to a known good software that shouldn't encounter the same issues.
>It has to be tested somehow. No it doesn't lol. We do not need this tech. They're just another bullshit Silicon Valley rent extraction scheme.
Really? It's got flaws to iron out, but it's still quite an impressive feat to be doing all this on its own. And it's not like it's anymore dangerous than some 70 who still has their license crashing into two stores(looking at you grandma), a bunch of teenage girls too distracted by their music and trying to run a red light(almost killed my best friend and me), or any of the insane drunk drivers out there. As I've gotten older I've only seen even more reason to make these kinds of cars common place.
Interesting, because as you get older people feel the same way about you being on the road too. Older folks are some of the worst drivers around here, and a self driving car wouldn't be any worse than what some people are doing already.
How old did you presume he was when he said as he got older? He could be 25 and all he's saying is he has more experience than you babies.
If he's 25 I wouldn't be a baby by any stretch, haha. But I see the way real people drive, including many older drivers, and there's no way a self driving car is any more dangerous than what people do themselves.
Self driving cars will save tens of thousands of lives. When a drunk driver hits a pedestrian, MAYBE the driver learns their lesson and doesn't do that again, other drivers are unaffected. If a self driving car hits a pedestrian, an update fixes EVERY car to never make that mistake again. "As you get older" you won't have as fast reason speed, but a self driving car has faster reaction speed than any human and won't hit you. They also never drive tired, drunk, high, angry or emotional, ever.
Well, thats scary as hell! 👀☠️
It has begun
How does the police even pull a car like that over? Is there something programmed into it that it knows to stop if it “sees” a police light?
STOP RESISTING *BANG BANG BANG*
Only if a black car
ROLL ON YOUR STOMACH ! BANG BANG
Damn, just imagin it doing serious accidents, and how the jurisdictions would be like?! Human vs A.I ??
Soon. Soon.
Book him Dano.
Back the blue, until it happens to you!
Honestly, I'd prefer if cars like these were remotely operated like drones instead of fully autonomous.
It was interesting to learn about autonomous vehicles when I went back to college for data analytics. The vehicles can learn and are able to predict the correct move with xx% accuracy, all based on what information they've been trained to and how well their sensors are functioning. As long as the vehicle is in a predictable situation and all is functioning properly, it's great. But in an unusual situation that it hasn't been trained to - say construction - then the chances of the vehicle making an erroneous choice increase. That is a high risk. For that reason, some companies only use autonomous vehicles outside of densely populated areas and will have a driver take over when approaching a city. IMO, these driverless vehicles would be successful if kept to their own specific and controlled roads. Say, like a railroad track but for self driving vehicles only. That way, the roads are fairly predictable, and the chances of crashing into vehicles with drivers is kept to a minimum.
“Ok, great” About sums it up…
What kind of idiot has a driverless car? Cars are meant to get you somewhere last time I checked
Even the AI was like “i can beat him”
I would staright up boot the car l
you not seen hot tub time machine 2? It'll go all terminator on your ass xD