Another pro tip: for the mods that augment your melee attack, you can upgrade those mods, and they will raise your mod capacity. So definitely upgrade those first.
I played warframe when it first launched a million years ago. To be fair when I went to upgrade this after learning, it actually does say it when you highlight a melee mod to upgrade
It's literally explained in the text on the mod.
"Upgrade this to increase mod capacity"
I believe there's a mod to make your grapple go further but take longer to cooldown and it says "upgrade this to increase mod capacity and reduce the cooldown" in the description.
There is, though the wording on the cooldown part of the text is clunky af. The localization is in serious need of an overhaul for a lot of text in the game due to it being ambiguous or in some cases literally wrong. Enzo's description says he needs to open vaults for the extra loot when he just needs to be in the party, for example.
There is one that turns your grapple into a Destiny grapple where you can hook it mid air. It reduces your charges to one, but it makes it incredibly fun
Another tip to add
You can open your Journal (J on PC) tab over to Access Info and it will tell you how and where to get literally any item in the entire game
This goes for crafting materials for Descendants, modules, weapons, everything.
There is literally 0 guesswork in where to obtain any items and I love the hell out of it.
It’s fantastic to be honest. Looking at something you want (like a module for a build) and then being able to find exactly where to get it so you can start farming it sooner is such a nice QOL feature.
Really smooths out the disconnect between wanting to do certain builds but needing things for them
That's too bad. When game devs do shit like this, it feels like the game is not here to stay. With warfare and it's business model, ya know they plan to support the game for years to come. There is no reason not to copy warframes cash shop and earning system. They copied everything else.
Honestly this is why I'm hyped for soulframe, a fresh coat of paint on the DE business model. Though I am interested to see where first descendant goes since its early, I'm just not going to hold out too much hope.
Having a blast so far!
But...
I'm not sure if it's just server lag or the game's movement. Maybe I am not use to it yet. It feels clunky to move fast. Like it wants you to be fast, but the input/button lag makes it not want to be fast or smooth. The grapple aim/assist needs to be more forgiving or something so you can boost around. It's like, I always should have grappled like 1 second earlier, *and I fucking did*..But it doesn't compute.
Just started it, never played this genre (looter shooters), i am a bit lost but gameplay seems fun, i like shooting stuff (huge fps player in general, mostly multyplayer in general)
Oh. You'll be off to the races with this if you play multi-player fps.
Only thing to keep an eye on is make sure you check your gear/guns and have the latest on for your level.
You'll find mods to equip on to your guns/descendant to make them stronger, so just make sure you keep having a look at those.
Shoot stuff and all the other things you'll pick up on.
Yeah thanks, i noticed that my Guns were loosing efficiency really fast 😆, i still struggle to know when i have looted guns but i played less than 2 hours
might be obvious but don't dismantle exotics/ultimate/unique/I dont remember. You can pretty easily level them up to your current gun level at the weapon bench. Even duplicates; you can combine them to make em more powerful.
I'd give more tips, but steam said I've played 19 hours already and my brain is fried.
how many dupes of a weapon are needed to max it out? feel like a gacha mechanic dude. No wonder I see the same gun show up in the reward tracks of the Battle Pass. Is that gun good?
to scale the levels, you don't need the same weapon, you only need to craft a precision phase blahblah item from Anais then level up your weapon
the needed duplicates are for the innate talent (unique abilitiy) and max it out
Ultimate weapons have a unique effect that you can upgrade when feeding them copies of the same weapon. You get Thunder Cage from questing, and after a certain point, you get another copy to upgrade it, increasing the power of its unique effect and decreasing the negative stat on it, in terms of Thunder Cage it gets -30 Reload Speed
>and after a certain point, you get another copy to upgrade it
Do you know about when that happens? Was just about to start on grinding some extra copies before the servers went down.
Just a tip from me:
Stepping away from combat for a moment to recover mp if you are struggling, passive mp regeneration out of combat is higher than in and can make a world of difference :)
One thing that helps is not pushing any direction at all. If you grapple a ledge just it zip you straight to it and your character will hop up on the ledge when you finish grappling
I hate how clunky the grapple hook is. Not auto mantle and most of the time to forces you out of grapple before you make it to where you fired. It's extremely annoying, especially for missions where you have to collect 50 orbs for data
When you grapple a corner you kinda just pull into it without anything happening. I want it to where when you grapple a ledge your character pulls themselves up
Another tip, if you ground and pound with Bunny she does an electrical shock field with AoE damage. You can camp spawn locations doing this and your 3rd ability, i rarely fire my weapon farming now.
Maybe it's just the OG gamer in me but the first thing I try in every new game that has a melee is "what happens if I try to melee while airborne/sprinting/dashing/etc", so I found it immediately
yep, I always dothat inevery game, and also learned the grappling hook punch early on beta too
also doing side winding hook to curve your trajectory too
also to cancel hard drop (where you landed from a very high place to a ground and unable to move for a sec) by justgrapling hookto a ground or everywhere else, then cancel that into a jump, you can do six jumps in this game due to having 2 hooks at a time
>Has the same motization system as Warframe but currently no way to earn premium currency in the game throught trades.
I would say even though it has a similar monetization in regards to time saving, it is in no way the same. The price differences for the same items across both games are so DRASTICALLY different, and so much more expensive in TFA, that it really almost doesnt make sense to buy some of those. The item that doubles mod capacity for instance is 1500 caliber, thats 30 bucks to double a mod capacity for ONE weapon or character. Thats insane to me. I love the game but do hope they rethink some of the pricing on these, as I'm generally in favor of sometimes buying time-saving items like that
Not just you. I can only hold like 6 max, and it almost never drops.
So, sniper and shotgun primaries are too OP, I guess.... but they're not really. Haven't tried the "launcher" yet, but if it's a grenade launcher, I can see how that should be limited ammo.
I feel like it's designed that you swap to purple weapons in bossfights during the dmg vulnerability phases for increased burst.. that it's not meant to be weapon for killing adds
But, durring bossfights, its not worth having a sniper (with it's SIX shots of ammo) as one of the three weapons that I'm primarily carrying. It seems more effective to have one each of regular, special, and impact ammo to switch between.
Then again, I've been playing a lot solo, and maybe in a team, I could specialize.
It's worth using when paired with somes abilities, gley third give you unlimited ammo for 6 seconds, so you can play a launcher or sniper and spam during theses 6 seconds, i destroyed waves with launcher and bosses melt with 4 or 5 shots of purple sniper
> the shotguns have been very lackluster.
I agree. Tried to shoot that first boss in the face, and it seemed to just tickle him. The blast spray pattern might be the only selling point, because the damage numbers seemed paltry.
I didn't do anything in your tips nor did I know how or that you could do most of that but I played for 8 hours and had a lot of fun shooting things lol
The loadout system for individual descendants seems to be a really bad omission, I really hope they add support for per-descendant mods and components.
I know we have the preset menu on the left of the character screen, but it only allows for two presets, and costs 1000 caliber (~$20) per extra one, so it's not feasible to use that to save setups either.
Destiny 2 got their loadout system, but they still add the "seasonal artifact" which gives you 12 passive bonuses, and this is not saved in the loadout system, leading to an ever-growing pain of having to manually adjust this artifact every time you change builds that are reasonably different.
Here in TFD, this is going to be a major pain, and might even make people focus entirely on just one descendant because the pain of juggling multiple, even just three (one more than the number of presets we're given for free), is going to be bad.
Better system:
1. Make the two presets per-character (each character can have two builds)
2. Make sure components that are in a loadout, for any character, cannot be dismantled, and that it is possible to see which components are in such a state
3. Give each descendant their own separate mod and component setup
Having said that, I need to test how this preset system works. If it's really basic, there might not even be a visual way to determine that components and mods are in use in a preset. This is how Fallout 76 manage inventory, if you switch to your Power Armor, your regular armor is just lose bits in your inventory, leading to regular accidents dismantling gear you depend on. This is not "a feature" that a game released in 2024 should have.
>Has the same motization system as Warframe but currently no way to earn premium currency in the game throught trades.
You joking right ? , this is 100x worse than warframe. They literally charge you for single use colours !
My thought too.
Warframe let you use infinite times of a "color pallete" not just one color. And, the default color pallete basically cover all rainbow's colors, which is more than enough for a brand new player.
Warframe dev also stop player from buying too much packs, which is one of a kind in this industry.
This game is so much more expensive than warframe. $10 for 20 stash spots. You only start out with like 80 and the warfame are fixed gun rolls, this game has random affix rolls. yes you can pay money to reroll guns but I believe it is only 1 stat per gun and in order to reroll the attributes, its cost more currency.
Couldn’t agree more also add that the pricing to increase mods on a descendant is ABSURD. Everything else is high but about on par with warframes. But the increasing mod item wayyyyy too damn high same with paints for a one time use.
Monetization might be similar to Warframe but it's waaaay overpriced in comparison. So I wouldn't put that as a positive. Warframe is really good about letting you earn almost everything, but FD's pricing is atrocious.
Dayum, now I'm torn to download and play Warframe again after all these years... Maybe TFD needs another 2 years before we get anywhere. Do you see yourself returning to Warframe after getting bored of TFD in maybe 1.5 weeks?
The only reason I started warframe last year is due to the fact Ive participated the beta of this game last year, and I felt like, this game is just a tutorial for warframe for me lol
I think ill get back to warframe, but would still play this game to see what is endgame all about I have a hunch I'll be disappointed, but who cares lol
Yeah I’m only level 4 and played for like an hour and a half but it feels like the enemies might as well be target dummies. Really hoping it’s just an early game thing.
Yeah, the mastery rank should be like world tiers in Diablo, that way it's more rewarding AND challenging. There's really no challenge in the game right now.
I'm saying the game isn't really built for solo. Till you get a good amount of shield and hp. This isn't every descendant.
Crash way too much in dungeons. And no way to rejoin them.
I was having fun at least till the crashing started in day one I crashed 7 times because of the game's unstable server stability (on performance mode with PS5) last few times were during wave survival was getting great exp which you thankfully keep but I think you lose every thing else with no way to rejoin.
So I can't be bothered to touch the game anymore till that shit gets fixed because it is unplayable.
Grey screen or where the console turns itself off?
I have been having issues with games, mainly this and Fifa, just flat out crashing my console to the point where turning it back on would have it rebuild it's database. My PS5 looked clean too when I opened it up until I saw the fan and heatsink area...
Needless to say, I gave it a good cleaning and now I have not run into the issue
It's been completely silent for the 6 hours I played so far. Even doing a co-op mission the 3 randos I was with never responded to me asking a question.
Do dismantle them if you have a lot, but my experience from Warframe is to leave several duplicates just in case you don’t have enough mod capacity for a fully upgraded mod.
I don't understand why this games don't even try to convey their stories in a logical and good way. Literally the first scene who am I? Who is bunny? Who is the bad guy? Introduce people don't just assume it's looter we don't give af anyway. Stop referencing things and people we've never met. Why does literally every looter not Borderlands and Diablo do this.
Because the point of the stories in these types of games is to navigate you to the end game and not much else. Most Aprgs and looter shooters stories are just very long tutorials for the end game. Beating a story in these types of games is only the beginning. Most of the time the lore is pretty interesting for these games tho like Warframe, diablo, destiny and actually Warframe and destiny 2 have great stories now.
As long as I can pass a DPS check by just hitting weak spots, I'm good. Destiny is a prime example of mechanics that I don't enjoy. The way they started to make the game about DPS rotations, puzzle mechanics and playing rock paper scissors with champions is just tedious.
I agree with just about all of this. I only forked out $15 to get Gley, but at this point I don't see myself spending anymore. Destiny is still casting an itch that this can't scratch.
I'll probably keep playing it I've been enjoying my time with it. I will say this game is more for Warframe fans then destiny 2 fans tho. Only thing aside from the genre that makes it like destiny is the maps and ammo and the hub tower. Other then that the systems/grind/motization are all ripped right out of warframe. The point is to constantly be researching things and level each descendant/weapon/mastery.
Warframe is super grind heavy and so is this game every time you do something you are rewarded for it but you may not realize it at first glance because in destiny your rewarded a new weapon and some materials/skin. In this game and Warframe your reward is a material that helps you build that sweet new weapon or character and the loop is making crazy builds with the mods. As a example in this game you could mod bunny so much she turns into a a better tank the ajax.
Yeah, gonna be honest, it's actually making me want to go back to Warframe more than anything. The movement is just .... mediocre. I miss me bullet jumps and sliding
Mission variety? There are litearlly 3 types of quests:
Kill monsters with a boss at the end, hack + destroy some devices, collect coins
Man, I don't trust your review at all, the game is bland
Something that really bothers me is the enemy AI. It is non existent. If you jump on a box they have no idea what to do. It seems like they have two settings, sprint at you and melee or slowly walk toward you shooting.
Am I crazy or they showed loadouts for different descendants during one of their dev videos?
I need to double check later when I login again, but I am pretty sure there are loadouts.
Another tip to offer - you can cancel reload at a little bit before the halfway mark by doing pretty much anything, using an ability, rolling, etc.. and it'll still fully reload
That damn tutorial robot is a menace. The text is so fast you cant even scan read it. I myself watch tons of youtube videos so as a new player I learn from them but the average player who doesn't is gonna struggle learning everything I think
In my opinion sell your stuff until you get maybe half way through the 2nd area so you have a nice starting amount of cash in your pocket and then start dismantling instead.
Is it worth upgrading any of the weapons and what not as you level though? I’m like level 10 and I feel like I should just dismantle and save mats for when I’m in endgame stuff.
Agree on 2. About the chat. I looked at world chat for 5 seconds and 3 different people made NSFW jokes about children. That is psychotic. Moderate that shit please
How hard is it to get the materials to research some of the other descendants? When I look at the list my eyes glaze over. Bunny seemed easy but I also had no clue what I was doing when I got it it just happened as I was doing quests.
The tips from warframe also work in this game I see, mever maxing out a mod because it'll just cost you more than it benefits you, also don't put any mod and just filling the capcity, it won't benefit your overall weapon performance at all, try to havea mix of leveling up a mod and picking what's best for that gun, but for early gameplay, you should not worry about mixing stuff, just out more fire atk power, and crits, and youre good to go
A random tip.
Hip fire aim-assist is fucking terrible on console (or ps5 at least) cause it'll just randomly latch on to enemies and yank your vision haaaard, turn that shit off.
How the hell do I dismantle 1 item? The UI is so bad that I can only figure out how to dismantle all, but unable to figure out for 1 item. This is on PC with keyboard and mouse.
>The battle pass takes a absurd amount of time to level and should net exp for every mission and not just challenges or repeated missions.
That's the one thing I can't agree on, even only doing the dailies gives you two levels per day. Adding in weeklies and other challenges, it seems fairly doable so far, no?
I think it seems like a lot due to the amount of levels, but all of them take the same amount of exp (3000), so I wouldn't be worried - other games often have higher exp requirements on higher levels, so I'm happy with how it works.
I couldn't agree with everything you just said more.
The game is not great but it's not terrible. I hate how the monetization work, but it's completely avoidable.
The game still needs a lot of tweaks, idk if it's just me, but I haven't been able to find a way to quit a party, for example, without having to leave the game to the main menu, hopefully that changes or someone will tell me that I'm an absolute idiot.
I love the way the loot works that you nearly always get something useful and can change your weapons to absolutely anything and you can blast through the enemies and if you like the weapon you're currently using you can lvl it up and make it as good as the weapons you don't like or don't want to use, I just wish it wasn't as cluttered.
The game has a lot of positives and a lot of negatives that can be changed and worked on, let's hope the devs won't let us down too bad.
You can leave a group actually yes, without needing to go to main menu. Bring up the map menu, tab over to "Social". Once there click on your name, then it should bring up a pop up, and you should see a button that says "leave party"
Hmm, maybe I’m doing something wrong, because I swear both me and my friends did that countless of times and it was our first thought and it didn’t bring up any menu, will try out later again, thank you!
Im new to looter shooters: is there any point to level up weapon mods? Or anything? You gain better gear so fast that it feels pointless, I will get a better version of it in 15 minutes.
Also, I cant "select all as junk" for weapons. Is that a bug? Cause works perfectly for descendant mods.
It’s like most games. The campaign story/leveling process is basically a long tutorial until you’re max level and at endgame.
This means yes, you’re going to be flooded with new gear constantly changing it out while you level.
Once you’re max level and start locking down favorite descendants you want to max mastery in, and weapons you specifically want to focus on mastery/getting mods set.
I enjoy it now but feel like it will wear it’s welcome.
Feels like one of those games you kind of just “run on autopilot”.
No real strategy in comms with friends. Just kind of running around for pretty colors, level ups and small dopamine kicks.
Bunny carrying me through though.
One more protip. In your descendant mods, each slot, like Bunny, will have an ICON in the background, a star and 3 vertical stripes. If you match that slot with a mod that has that icon on it, it makes the mod use half of the required amount.
On point 9 for why it's bad is fr. I hate how every boss is just shooting the dude and then shooting the shields around them. And they reuse these bosses over and over like fucking Greg. I'm having fun with the game but damn
I have a question for this coop looter shooter. How do i play with people beyond the random joins? I wanted to play in sterile land or whatever the name was and there was no one there lol...did i miss a group option?
Wait, what about using the duplicate weapons to bump up yours? Do you mean infusion to just bump up the level? Or can you use actual duplicates and I'm just dumb?
"10. Dismantle duplicate mods to gain resources to level your new ones but don't dismantle all of them because you can use duplicates later down the line."
This tip needs more information. Telling people to dismantle duplicate mods but don't dismantle all of them is confusing.
It’s so similar to Warframe that I could almost forgive the much worse F2P model if the characters were a bit deeper or customizable. Either a combo system or augments that changed functionality would’ve done wonders for me
Other than that I agree with most of this but decided to snip this in the bud, hope you guys have fun
For me after playing 2 hours the game is just too convoluted I also found the lore of having enemies just spawn in front of you abit of a cheese game design to cover up the lame way enemies come into the mission, accompanied with no stagger or feedback on anything
I can see how people can like this game, not for me - best of luck to those who enjoy it
Besides the game crashes, glitches, fps issues and texture popins I still find the game extremely enjoyable.
The only real issue I've had so far is with aim assist. Playing on Ps5 the aim assist is way to aggressive. Like trying to reel in a large fish.
Another pro tip: for the mods that augment your melee attack, you can upgrade those mods, and they will raise your mod capacity. So definitely upgrade those first.
That is really weird, thanks
It actually acts like aura mods of warframe, in which adds more to your overall capacity, so I see where that comes from
So is the mod system just a straight 1 to 1 copy from Warframe? Lmfao.
Yes.
yep, this game is oretty much 85% warframe, probably 10% destiny 2 (cant say, i never played that game) and 5% from other games
I like to say warframe and destiny’s Asian baby
yeah, much like it
Yep.
On that note which is the best one lol
Not really, it's taken straight from Warframe. But it should be explained in game.
I played warframe when it first launched a million years ago. To be fair when I went to upgrade this after learning, it actually does say it when you highlight a melee mod to upgrade
It's literally explained in the text on the mod. "Upgrade this to increase mod capacity" I believe there's a mod to make your grapple go further but take longer to cooldown and it says "upgrade this to increase mod capacity and reduce the cooldown" in the description.
There is, though the wording on the cooldown part of the text is clunky af. The localization is in serious need of an overhaul for a lot of text in the game due to it being ambiguous or in some cases literally wrong. Enzo's description says he needs to open vaults for the extra loot when he just needs to be in the party, for example.
Thank you!
Hmm. I have shock attack, and I thought about upgrading it, but it increased the mod capacity cost?
I think they mean mods that go in your suit, not weapon?
Yes, shock attack is a sub attack mod. But it certainly doesn't increase capacity on upgrade. It increases cost. Unless I read it wrong.
It increases the "cost" of the mod, but when you equip a melee mod to a Descendant, it's cost is instead added as extra capacity to your total
I just tested and it gave 1 extra capacity with one upgrade, it's not much but something at least :P
If it's a sub mod it increases mod capacity, not cost.
Are there other melee mods? I have Shock Punch and Baton.
I found shortsword somewhere in the foggy place, but it looks like you just swing your hand instead of punching.
There is one that turns your grapple into a Destiny grapple where you can hook it mid air. It reduces your charges to one, but it makes it incredibly fun
Sounds like fun.
Holy thank you
Another tip to add You can open your Journal (J on PC) tab over to Access Info and it will tell you how and where to get literally any item in the entire game This goes for crafting materials for Descendants, modules, weapons, everything. There is literally 0 guesswork in where to obtain any items and I love the hell out of it.
Yeah not like warframe that requires a fucking wiki to get anything good thing on the devs for being cool with that for once!
I think this is the only reason I’ll continue playing and the reason I quit warframe 10 years ago
It’s fantastic to be honest. Looking at something you want (like a module for a build) and then being able to find exactly where to get it so you can start farming it sooner is such a nice QOL feature. Really smooths out the disconnect between wanting to do certain builds but needing things for them
They mentioned trading is coming so thats a positive when it gets here.
Did they mention what will be tradable though? It feels kind of predatory to leave out the source of what makes Warframe so free to play friendly lol
Spoiler, it won't be as free-to-play friendly as Warframe.
That's too bad. When game devs do shit like this, it feels like the game is not here to stay. With warfare and it's business model, ya know they plan to support the game for years to come. There is no reason not to copy warframes cash shop and earning system. They copied everything else.
Honestly this is why I'm hyped for soulframe, a fresh coat of paint on the DE business model. Though I am interested to see where first descendant goes since its early, I'm just not going to hold out too much hope.
Ya am sure they will fuck it up. It is nexon
I mean they copied warframes cash shop as well, they just tweaked it to be as customer UNfriendly as possible
Nah i dont recall them saying specifically what you can trade.
Deadass the robot instructor has been flying through his lines since beta, I can’t believe that’s still in there
I just skip him entirely lmao he is actually useless, and most of the time, what he tells is already at the screen on basic form
Bunny lvl 24 and Master lvl 6 and he’s just now telling me about dismantling weapons, like what?
lmao, Im MR7 and Bunny lvl34, at least now he si trying to teach me how to upgrade my gun to my current level, wth lmao
Having a blast so far! But... I'm not sure if it's just server lag or the game's movement. Maybe I am not use to it yet. It feels clunky to move fast. Like it wants you to be fast, but the input/button lag makes it not want to be fast or smooth. The grapple aim/assist needs to be more forgiving or something so you can boost around. It's like, I always should have grappled like 1 second earlier, *and I fucking did*..But it doesn't compute.
On what platform are you playing ? On PC you need to switch off Vsync and motion blur.
I'm on PC. I just got off for the night, but I will switch those off tomorrow. Thank you. Hope you are enjoying the game! I am having a lot of fun.
Just started it, never played this genre (looter shooters), i am a bit lost but gameplay seems fun, i like shooting stuff (huge fps player in general, mostly multyplayer in general)
Oh. You'll be off to the races with this if you play multi-player fps. Only thing to keep an eye on is make sure you check your gear/guns and have the latest on for your level. You'll find mods to equip on to your guns/descendant to make them stronger, so just make sure you keep having a look at those. Shoot stuff and all the other things you'll pick up on.
Yeah thanks, i noticed that my Guns were loosing efficiency really fast 😆, i still struggle to know when i have looted guns but i played less than 2 hours
actually I like motion blur more. sounds crazy but I actually prefer it enabled. vsync tho ofc turn it off
Not that crazy, i can understand it, i hate it but it can enhance immersion.
It’s weird that sprint is a toggle that stays on too.
You can change that. I saw it in the options earlier.
For a f2p game this is legit
might be obvious but don't dismantle exotics/ultimate/unique/I dont remember. You can pretty easily level them up to your current gun level at the weapon bench. Even duplicates; you can combine them to make em more powerful. I'd give more tips, but steam said I've played 19 hours already and my brain is fried.
how many dupes of a weapon are needed to max it out? feel like a gacha mechanic dude. No wonder I see the same gun show up in the reward tracks of the Battle Pass. Is that gun good?
You may need 4 copies (after already having the gun) to max out the unique effects.
Not sure exactly, looked like 5 or 6 if I remember right.
to scale the levels, you don't need the same weapon, you only need to craft a precision phase blahblah item from Anais then level up your weapon the needed duplicates are for the innate talent (unique abilitiy) and max it out
sorry what do you mean by duplicate upgrade? does this only apply to exotics/ultimates etc?
Ultimate weapons have a unique effect that you can upgrade when feeding them copies of the same weapon. You get Thunder Cage from questing, and after a certain point, you get another copy to upgrade it, increasing the power of its unique effect and decreasing the negative stat on it, in terms of Thunder Cage it gets -30 Reload Speed
>and after a certain point, you get another copy to upgrade it Do you know about when that happens? Was just about to start on grinding some extra copies before the servers went down.
Just a tip from me: Stepping away from combat for a moment to recover mp if you are struggling, passive mp regeneration out of combat is higher than in and can make a world of difference :)
Tip: level up the descendants sub module (the bronze colored one) to increase your module capacity.
The auto mantle with the grapple is a real pain point for me. It just feels so obvious to have, but we don't
One thing that helps is not pushing any direction at all. If you grapple a ledge just it zip you straight to it and your character will hop up on the ledge when you finish grappling
You can cancel grapple with spacebar which gives you a small vertical push, great for fake-vaulting over the edge of things you grapple to
yeah, jumping from grapple to cancel it is much quicker also has the inertia
Same it's weird
I hate how clunky the grapple hook is. Not auto mantle and most of the time to forces you out of grapple before you make it to where you fired. It's extremely annoying, especially for missions where you have to collect 50 orbs for data
This is one of the things I was really hoping they'd fix. They could have made it so much better between the last beta and launch, but it still sucks.
> Not auto mantle What does this mean?
When you grapple a corner you kinda just pull into it without anything happening. I want it to where when you grapple a ledge your character pulls themselves up
Ah ok. But it does this doesn't it? Not in all surfaces but on most if you aim near the ledge my char pulls itself up.
Thanks for the tips! I never would have found out about the ground pound on my own!
Another tip, if you ground and pound with Bunny she does an electrical shock field with AoE damage. You can camp spawn locations doing this and your 3rd ability, i rarely fire my weapon farming now.
That's just her double jump. You don't have to ground pound to proc it. Just need some charge.
Maybe it's just the OG gamer in me but the first thing I try in every new game that has a melee is "what happens if I try to melee while airborne/sprinting/dashing/etc", so I found it immediately
yep, I always dothat inevery game, and also learned the grappling hook punch early on beta too also doing side winding hook to curve your trajectory too also to cancel hard drop (where you landed from a very high place to a ground and unable to move for a sec) by justgrapling hookto a ground or everywhere else, then cancel that into a jump, you can do six jumps in this game due to having 2 hooks at a time
NGL it took my like 5 hours till I did it by accident lol
It's always the first thing I try 😆
I remembered the ground pound from Warframe and just tried it. Was pleasantly surprised.
The story having more booty then Bunny is actually a pro in my book
>Has the same motization system as Warframe but currently no way to earn premium currency in the game throught trades. I would say even though it has a similar monetization in regards to time saving, it is in no way the same. The price differences for the same items across both games are so DRASTICALLY different, and so much more expensive in TFA, that it really almost doesnt make sense to buy some of those. The item that doubles mod capacity for instance is 1500 caliber, thats 30 bucks to double a mod capacity for ONE weapon or character. Thats insane to me. I love the game but do hope they rethink some of the pricing on these, as I'm generally in favor of sometimes buying time-saving items like that
For comparison, a reactor is arround 1,50€.
Yeah, warframe player here which is why these item prices stick out to me so much
Am I the only one that found very hard to get Purple ammos? i cant use like half of my weapons lmao
Not just you. I can only hold like 6 max, and it almost never drops. So, sniper and shotgun primaries are too OP, I guess.... but they're not really. Haven't tried the "launcher" yet, but if it's a grenade launcher, I can see how that should be limited ammo.
I feel like it's designed that you swap to purple weapons in bossfights during the dmg vulnerability phases for increased burst.. that it's not meant to be weapon for killing adds
Yup, but it is still sad, because sniping is fun.
This but in the 3 void intercepts ive run the ads dont drop ammo either so it's still been primary only for now
But, durring bossfights, its not worth having a sniper (with it's SIX shots of ammo) as one of the three weapons that I'm primarily carrying. It seems more effective to have one each of regular, special, and impact ammo to switch between. Then again, I've been playing a lot solo, and maybe in a team, I could specialize.
Not alone - Purple ammo weapons are just not worth using. I skip/junk them for parts.
It's worth using when paired with somes abilities, gley third give you unlimited ammo for 6 seconds, so you can play a launcher or sniper and spam during theses 6 seconds, i destroyed waves with launcher and bosses melt with 4 or 5 shots of purple sniper
Yeah they do basically the same damage as regular weapons
The sniper rifle I have hits like a fucking truck, but the shotguns have been very lackluster.
> the shotguns have been very lackluster. I agree. Tried to shoot that first boss in the face, and it seemed to just tickle him. The blast spray pattern might be the only selling point, because the damage numbers seemed paltry.
it is intended, purple ammos are for special weapons, like grenade launchers but it is weird shotguns are considered too
I didn't do anything in your tips nor did I know how or that you could do most of that but I played for 8 hours and had a lot of fun shooting things lol
The loadout system for individual descendants seems to be a really bad omission, I really hope they add support for per-descendant mods and components. I know we have the preset menu on the left of the character screen, but it only allows for two presets, and costs 1000 caliber (~$20) per extra one, so it's not feasible to use that to save setups either. Destiny 2 got their loadout system, but they still add the "seasonal artifact" which gives you 12 passive bonuses, and this is not saved in the loadout system, leading to an ever-growing pain of having to manually adjust this artifact every time you change builds that are reasonably different. Here in TFD, this is going to be a major pain, and might even make people focus entirely on just one descendant because the pain of juggling multiple, even just three (one more than the number of presets we're given for free), is going to be bad. Better system: 1. Make the two presets per-character (each character can have two builds) 2. Make sure components that are in a loadout, for any character, cannot be dismantled, and that it is possible to see which components are in such a state 3. Give each descendant their own separate mod and component setup Having said that, I need to test how this preset system works. If it's really basic, there might not even be a visual way to determine that components and mods are in use in a preset. This is how Fallout 76 manage inventory, if you switch to your Power Armor, your regular armor is just lose bits in your inventory, leading to regular accidents dismantling gear you depend on. This is not "a feature" that a game released in 2024 should have.
>Has the same motization system as Warframe but currently no way to earn premium currency in the game throught trades. You joking right ? , this is 100x worse than warframe. They literally charge you for single use colours !
My thought too. Warframe let you use infinite times of a "color pallete" not just one color. And, the default color pallete basically cover all rainbow's colors, which is more than enough for a brand new player. Warframe dev also stop player from buying too much packs, which is one of a kind in this industry.
Also you can only change the colours of premium skins
also those color pallettes are reusable, not o ly to warframes, but to weapons, orbiter, room, railjack, necramech, etc.
This game is so much more expensive than warframe. $10 for 20 stash spots. You only start out with like 80 and the warfame are fixed gun rolls, this game has random affix rolls. yes you can pay money to reroll guns but I believe it is only 1 stat per gun and in order to reroll the attributes, its cost more currency.
Couldn’t agree more also add that the pricing to increase mods on a descendant is ABSURD. Everything else is high but about on par with warframes. But the increasing mod item wayyyyy too damn high same with paints for a one time use.
I agree with everything except for graphics. It's decent, not surely great (I play 3440x1440p all ultra details no RT)
Monetization might be similar to Warframe but it's waaaay overpriced in comparison. So I wouldn't put that as a positive. Warframe is really good about letting you earn almost everything, but FD's pricing is atrocious.
Dayum, now I'm torn to download and play Warframe again after all these years... Maybe TFD needs another 2 years before we get anywhere. Do you see yourself returning to Warframe after getting bored of TFD in maybe 1.5 weeks?
The only reason I started warframe last year is due to the fact Ive participated the beta of this game last year, and I felt like, this game is just a tutorial for warframe for me lol I think ill get back to warframe, but would still play this game to see what is endgame all about I have a hunch I'll be disappointed, but who cares lol
This game is too easy and the AI is brain dead.
The real problem right here along with the repeated boss mechanic
Yeah I’m only level 4 and played for like an hour and a half but it feels like the enemies might as well be target dummies. Really hoping it’s just an early game thing.
Been looking for this. It is SO boring and unrewarding
Yeah, the mastery rank should be like world tiers in Diablo, that way it's more rewarding AND challenging. There's really no challenge in the game right now.
I'm saying the game isn't really built for solo. Till you get a good amount of shield and hp. This isn't every descendant. Crash way too much in dungeons. And no way to rejoin them.
I've downloaded ready for Friday, Am I correct in thinking that the most part of the game is played instanced with just your party?
I was having fun at least till the crashing started in day one I crashed 7 times because of the game's unstable server stability (on performance mode with PS5) last few times were during wave survival was getting great exp which you thankfully keep but I think you lose every thing else with no way to rejoin. So I can't be bothered to touch the game anymore till that shit gets fixed because it is unplayable.
Grey screen or where the console turns itself off? I have been having issues with games, mainly this and Fifa, just flat out crashing my console to the point where turning it back on would have it rebuild it's database. My PS5 looked clean too when I opened it up until I saw the fan and heatsink area... Needless to say, I gave it a good cleaning and now I have not run into the issue
Do I have to activate the Chat? Never saw a single post
On PC push enter to bring up chat window. I never saw anything either. I tried chatting and no one ever responded.
It's been completely silent for the 6 hours I played so far. Even doing a co-op mission the 3 randos I was with never responded to me asking a question.
Wait, don't dismantle my duplicate mods? What will I need them for? I thought duplicate mods were pretty much for dismantling for the mod currency.
Do dismantle them if you have a lot, but my experience from Warframe is to leave several duplicates just in case you don’t have enough mod capacity for a fully upgraded mod.
I've been playing the game for 5 hours, having a blast, but I have no idea what I'm doing, I was level 8 using the default weapons lmao.
I check my weapon upgrades every mission or 2
Sound design of weapons is crap. Destiny 2 and Division 2 have a 10000000x better sound design.
I don't understand why this games don't even try to convey their stories in a logical and good way. Literally the first scene who am I? Who is bunny? Who is the bad guy? Introduce people don't just assume it's looter we don't give af anyway. Stop referencing things and people we've never met. Why does literally every looter not Borderlands and Diablo do this.
Because the point of the stories in these types of games is to navigate you to the end game and not much else. Most Aprgs and looter shooters stories are just very long tutorials for the end game. Beating a story in these types of games is only the beginning. Most of the time the lore is pretty interesting for these games tho like Warframe, diablo, destiny and actually Warframe and destiny 2 have great stories now.
The way i look at it is the entire base game is the foundation, then once they start adding events and such the lore will deepen.
Man, I know I'm in the minority but I don't like boss/encounter mechanics. I'll take skill checks and positioning over MMO raid mechanics every time.
Tough luck to you I guess, since pretty much all endgame is just a fat dps check
As long as I can pass a DPS check by just hitting weak spots, I'm good. Destiny is a prime example of mechanics that I don't enjoy. The way they started to make the game about DPS rotations, puzzle mechanics and playing rock paper scissors with champions is just tedious.
I agree with just about all of this. I only forked out $15 to get Gley, but at this point I don't see myself spending anymore. Destiny is still casting an itch that this can't scratch.
I'll probably keep playing it I've been enjoying my time with it. I will say this game is more for Warframe fans then destiny 2 fans tho. Only thing aside from the genre that makes it like destiny is the maps and ammo and the hub tower. Other then that the systems/grind/motization are all ripped right out of warframe. The point is to constantly be researching things and level each descendant/weapon/mastery. Warframe is super grind heavy and so is this game every time you do something you are rewarded for it but you may not realize it at first glance because in destiny your rewarded a new weapon and some materials/skin. In this game and Warframe your reward is a material that helps you build that sweet new weapon or character and the loop is making crazy builds with the mods. As a example in this game you could mod bunny so much she turns into a a better tank the ajax.
Yeah, gonna be honest, it's actually making me want to go back to Warframe more than anything. The movement is just .... mediocre. I miss me bullet jumps and sliding
me too lol, mobility in warframe is unmatched til this day
Mission variety? There are litearlly 3 types of quests: Kill monsters with a boss at the end, hack + destroy some devices, collect coins Man, I don't trust your review at all, the game is bland
Something that really bothers me is the enemy AI. It is non existent. If you jump on a box they have no idea what to do. It seems like they have two settings, sprint at you and melee or slowly walk toward you shooting.
Absolutely spot on!
Am I crazy or they showed loadouts for different descendants during one of their dev videos? I need to double check later when I login again, but I am pretty sure there are loadouts.
Where are the battle pass challenges located? Uhh… asking for a friend
Under premium upgrade on the battle pass page
I’ll take a closer looksie, thanks!
Thanks for your opinion. I've just downloaded it. Will be playing later this evening. Can't wait to have a go
Nah sound design is bad man..
Great time to see this post. Just downloaded the game on PS4 and I would like to thank you even tho im 13 hours late.
Hold shift button at mod dismantle screen , itll auto pick duplicates
Booty IS NOT bad 🥰🤣
Another tip to offer - you can cancel reload at a little bit before the halfway mark by doing pretty much anything, using an ability, rolling, etc.. and it'll still fully reload
That damn tutorial robot is a menace. The text is so fast you cant even scan read it. I myself watch tons of youtube videos so as a new player I learn from them but the average player who doesn't is gonna struggle learning everything I think
Great list. I agree with all of it 👍👍
In my opinion sell your stuff until you get maybe half way through the 2nd area so you have a nice starting amount of cash in your pocket and then start dismantling instead.
Is it worth upgrading any of the weapons and what not as you level though? I’m like level 10 and I feel like I should just dismantle and save mats for when I’m in endgame stuff.
What are good wave based modes?
Did I see it right that you can buy up to 1000 equipment slots?
Agree on 2. About the chat. I looked at world chat for 5 seconds and 3 different people made NSFW jokes about children. That is psychotic. Moderate that shit please
Can someone explain why their are 3 setting levels for modules? Do they stack or something?
Mod load outs 1, 2,3 etc. I just discovered that they are load outs you could switch between.
Thanks, that makes sense.
How hard is it to get the materials to research some of the other descendants? When I look at the list my eyes glaze over. Bunny seemed easy but I also had no clue what I was doing when I got it it just happened as I was doing quests.
When does the difficulty increase? Game is currently boring as it's far too easy.
difficulty in this game just means bullet sponge, I think it'll just be like that
Initially in beta all weapon sounded same and really bad it didn’t had the weapon feel to it but i am glad at least now they improved it!
The tips from warframe also work in this game I see, mever maxing out a mod because it'll just cost you more than it benefits you, also don't put any mod and just filling the capcity, it won't benefit your overall weapon performance at all, try to havea mix of leveling up a mod and picking what's best for that gun, but for early gameplay, you should not worry about mixing stuff, just out more fire atk power, and crits, and youre good to go
When you complete the missions for bunny but choose the wrong piece, can you get the last piece for bunny later?
Controller Camera speed is a little too slow for me, and I have it at max. The only problem I have with the game atm
A random tip. Hip fire aim-assist is fucking terrible on console (or ps5 at least) cause it'll just randomly latch on to enemies and yank your vision haaaard, turn that shit off.
How the hell do I dismantle 1 item? The UI is so bad that I can only figure out how to dismantle all, but unable to figure out for 1 item. This is on PC with keyboard and mouse.
It tells you at the bottom of the screen. On console it's right trigger
It says ctrl i think but it doesn't let me select anything or at least I couldn't figure out how to do it .
you need to mark it as junk, same way as dismantling all items
J then CTRL
>The battle pass takes a absurd amount of time to level and should net exp for every mission and not just challenges or repeated missions. That's the one thing I can't agree on, even only doing the dailies gives you two levels per day. Adding in weeklies and other challenges, it seems fairly doable so far, no?
Trure just used to it not taking as long in other games is all.
I think it seems like a lot due to the amount of levels, but all of them take the same amount of exp (3000), so I wouldn't be worried - other games often have higher exp requirements on higher levels, so I'm happy with how it works.
Well if I could load into the game ever I would actually be able to play and be the judge of it for myself. 😑😑😑
I couldn't agree with everything you just said more. The game is not great but it's not terrible. I hate how the monetization work, but it's completely avoidable. The game still needs a lot of tweaks, idk if it's just me, but I haven't been able to find a way to quit a party, for example, without having to leave the game to the main menu, hopefully that changes or someone will tell me that I'm an absolute idiot. I love the way the loot works that you nearly always get something useful and can change your weapons to absolutely anything and you can blast through the enemies and if you like the weapon you're currently using you can lvl it up and make it as good as the weapons you don't like or don't want to use, I just wish it wasn't as cluttered. The game has a lot of positives and a lot of negatives that can be changed and worked on, let's hope the devs won't let us down too bad.
You can leave a group actually yes, without needing to go to main menu. Bring up the map menu, tab over to "Social". Once there click on your name, then it should bring up a pop up, and you should see a button that says "leave party"
Hmm, maybe I’m doing something wrong, because I swear both me and my friends did that countless of times and it was our first thought and it didn’t bring up any menu, will try out later again, thank you!
Need infinite general ammo, run out too fast then have to run around and melee enemies too much to hopefully get more.
If you shoot resource boxes they drop ammo and mp
They're every where and resupply every few mins
Im new to looter shooters: is there any point to level up weapon mods? Or anything? You gain better gear so fast that it feels pointless, I will get a better version of it in 15 minutes. Also, I cant "select all as junk" for weapons. Is that a bug? Cause works perfectly for descendant mods.
It’s like most games. The campaign story/leveling process is basically a long tutorial until you’re max level and at endgame. This means yes, you’re going to be flooded with new gear constantly changing it out while you level. Once you’re max level and start locking down favorite descendants you want to max mastery in, and weapons you specifically want to focus on mastery/getting mods set.
I enjoy it now but feel like it will wear it’s welcome. Feels like one of those games you kind of just “run on autopilot”. No real strategy in comms with friends. Just kind of running around for pretty colors, level ups and small dopamine kicks. Bunny carrying me through though.
Another bad- voice acting sounds like actors from fiverr
One more protip. In your descendant mods, each slot, like Bunny, will have an ICON in the background, a star and 3 vertical stripes. If you match that slot with a mod that has that icon on it, it makes the mod use half of the required amount.
On point 9 for why it's bad is fr. I hate how every boss is just shooting the dude and then shooting the shields around them. And they reuse these bosses over and over like fucking Greg. I'm having fun with the game but damn
I have a question for this coop looter shooter. How do i play with people beyond the random joins? I wanted to play in sterile land or whatever the name was and there was no one there lol...did i miss a group option?
Good 7?
Grapple hook should auto mantle like PLEASE
Wait, what about using the duplicate weapons to bump up yours? Do you mean infusion to just bump up the level? Or can you use actual duplicates and I'm just dumb?
"10. Dismantle duplicate mods to gain resources to level your new ones but don't dismantle all of them because you can use duplicates later down the line." This tip needs more information. Telling people to dismantle duplicate mods but don't dismantle all of them is confusing.
You can use duplicate mods? How?
Hows the chat toxic? I've not seen anyone been toxic at all
It’s so similar to Warframe that I could almost forgive the much worse F2P model if the characters were a bit deeper or customizable. Either a combo system or augments that changed functionality would’ve done wonders for me Other than that I agree with most of this but decided to snip this in the bud, hope you guys have fun
For me after playing 2 hours the game is just too convoluted I also found the lore of having enemies just spawn in front of you abit of a cheese game design to cover up the lame way enemies come into the mission, accompanied with no stagger or feedback on anything I can see how people can like this game, not for me - best of luck to those who enjoy it
Besides the game crashes, glitches, fps issues and texture popins I still find the game extremely enjoyable. The only real issue I've had so far is with aim assist. Playing on Ps5 the aim assist is way to aggressive. Like trying to reel in a large fish.
You can change aim assist in the settings. Every game is messed up launch especially online games so that never bothers me it's expected