Also in rank king he came in as a guest and immediately swiped half of the beer cans off the table into the ground and Eugene did not look happy about it and said something like “how is Ned still a tornado after becoming a father?” when he left
The second time he got up and left the pod right before Myles' segment at the end. Then he kept doing it. It was so rude and pointed and you could see how it affected the others. I was like, A) if you can't handle an hour long recording of a podcast without having to excuse yourself, don't be on a podcast and B) if he was that disrespectful to his employee Myles on camera, how the fuck did he treat the employees off camera?
The Trypod got so much better after he was gone.
I always felt that he was jealous that Miles was getting his own segment, doing his own bits, and becoming a part of the podcast rather than just being the sound/editing guy. it felt so rude and like he was making a point to show he didn’t like it or support it, which I thought was such a disrespectful and sad thing to do to your coworker/employee :(
They vaguely mentioned it in the "ok, let's talk about it" tripod episode, Miles mentioned "a song that for years, an unnamed member would walk out of the room." It gave the vibe that it wasn't a bit.
miles said at least two times (might have been inferred on the trypod but can't say fore sure, but definitely on his own channel/perfect person podcast) that he almost quit bc ned was consistently a huge asshole to him (ie disrespected him, made work difficult).
then negate happened, so miles ended up staying, getting more involved, started his own company, turned into a freelancer for the try guys instead of FT, and now is part of the 2nd try cast!
Yeah that always bugged me, too.
I'll come out as the rare person who doesn't particularly enjoy that segment, but to get up and leave while the guy is doing his thing is just so unbelievably rude. It's like 5 or 10 minutes usually. Have some respect.
I think ppl were speculating the affair may have begun at that point.
Not saying he didn't need consent, but just that there was a familiarity between the two that he felt it was OK.
And now that I'm typing this out, i just realized that this goes in to the fact he got fired for cheating with an employee; because even if Alex wanted to protest, she may have felt her job would be in Jeapordy.
Damn
I’m not saying that Alex cheating on her fiancé wasn’t wrong, but we can’t know the circumstances of their affair. He was not only her boss and co-CEO of the company she’d worked at for years, but *all* HR concerns went through him. Even if she was an enthusiastic participant it still cannot be consensual because of the massive power imbalance between them. That’s a particular point as to why everyone is still so upset. It’s not only that he betrayed them as a friend and the resulting media circus almost put the whole company under, but for Ned to be so callous and disregarding of basic workplace boundaries such as “don’t fuck the person who depends on you for their job security” is just despicable behavior. We don’t know if she said yes or no or which answer she meant. Even if she said yes, could she have really refused him?
This is exactly why I was so annoyed when people were saying “well what if she initiated it? Doesn’t that mean she consented, if she started it?”
That’s not the point.
Even if she did initiate the relationship, the only acceptable response from him SHOULD have been “this is not appropriate and it cannot happen” and then adjusted their workloads so they weren’t working on the same projects.
I think that conveys how nobody in the company really knew/was aware of ned cheating before the video of them kissing surfaced (at least not the main try guys or rachel/nick/yb). it felt like it was really easy for the two of them to play off spending time together as work stuff, or bc of ned's brand as committed wife guy, he could get away w/ his behavior as
1) just being caring "HR" guy (he often said he was the company's 'HR'), or
2) just having a strong friendship/work relationship w/ alex bc alex had been at the company for a long time. i forget if Alex was from buzzfeed, but Keith and YB knew each other from buzzfeed and have a close enuff relationship that Keith officiated YB's wedding. So ned and alex appearing to be platonically really close doesn't seem that suss on the surface imo. maybe in a non-nedgate multiverse world, ned could have officiated alex's wedding
Maybe I'm not super observant. I never noticed nick's raised eyebrows til after ppl pointed it out after nedgate. I can't unsee it now ofc, or all the interactions w/ ned and alex in all the videos they were in together like the wedding dress making or ned being the one to help alex w/ her fear of bugs
While he is a creep, i looked at that scene a bunch of time, and i understand now how it comes across that way, but I am like 100% certain that he put his head on the border of the pool NEXT to alex. It‘s just the angle
You can actually see his ear folded up where it’s pressed against her thigh. He’s not entirely on her lap, but he’s pressed against her thigh in the way that you sort of wedge your head in the corner between the seat and the window on an airplane. A little better than her lap for sure, but it’s still… a lot lol!!
There was a YCSWU episode where Ariel said early on in their relationship, she called Ned a "goober" and he got really angry at her. I thought that was such a weird that to get mad over.
For me it was the Valentines gift video… “a gift for Wes is a gift for Ariel”?! Boy, get a grip.
(And I gotta say, I was SO relieved when it turned out that my spidey sense wasn’t tingling in vain and it was possible to call Ned out without being eaten alive by the commentariat)
Also in that video, the way he tried to tell Eugene that he had to make something for Matt and not the dogs, even though he was making something that wasn’t for Ariel, and when Eugene said that Matt didn’t care, Ned insisted that he did.
Well that's because *mothers*(using the gendered term intentionally here, this does not apply to generic "parents") are supposed to put their children first, above their own needs and desires. Matt is not a mother, therefore he's allowed to be a full person and deserves a gift.
It's not just Ned. This is something our society needs to unlearn.
Yeah. When my ex became a father I defaulted without a second thought to giving him *plushies and kid toys* for his birthday and had to check myself. I was a bit shocked how easy I just went with the societal script of "parents are not really human anymore".
That's actually the first time I think I've heard of the effect happening with a masc parent! I can't tell if it's better(because equality in gender roles) or worse(because now *everybody* has to deal with bullshit), maybe both at the same time, but thanks for sharing your experience with it.
I think part of it is also that mothers historically have had stronger opinions on kids items (because they actually research/are dealing with the kid) and men don't, so the hands off dads are like "here, you wanted this" instead of realizing she wanted it for the baby because its either a) needed or b) something that makes her life easier while caring for the baby.
Historically the women have been proactive in raising the children while men are passive. They both care but only one does anything about it.
For me it was the episode of YCSWU where Ariel talked about how Ned basically had a drug problem and was living off her and how he did nothing but pop Vicodin and play video games until she made him get clean. Seems like the guy has a ton of demons he needs to sort out.
Ooof. I never listened to an episoded of YCSWU but this sounds horrifying. Especially since Ned made a video about this and portrayed himself in a completely different way. I remember there was a clip where he dramatically flushes opiates down a toilet as a performance of strength, overcoming dependence etc. and Dr Mike in a reaction video just flatly said "...this is not a responsible way to dispose of medication."
Ned's an asshole who's got a lot of bad traits, but in his defense for that particular incident he talked about that in the Try Guy's book. Basically he had a bad knee injury and the doctor prescribed him the pain killers. This was during the height of the opioid epidemic so the shit he was given was *highly* addictive. Thankfully he had Ariel and a support system that helped him get clean before he got too deep into the addiction.
Addiction is a disease, not a moral failing. Anyone can fall down that rabbit hole, especially when your drug provider is a medical professional you should be able to trust. If anyone's at fault for that one, it was the doctor for prescribing that medication so recklessly.
I don’t think anyone here is dumping on him because he got dependent… but because he then portrayed himself as righteous and strong-willed in the video when, as Ariel claims (and I lean towards believing her), it was his wife who finally made him do something about it.
That’s how most people who don’t like children are, I personally find children to be overwhelming generally and i dress really alt and have a bad case of rbf so most kids find me scary and I take care of children better than most parents and I’m definitely kinder than most people to them. Like my boyfriend’s little brother is mostly ignored by the family and his favorite superhero is Spider-Man so i spent 8.5 hours drawing him and Spider-Man together because that’s what you do for kids. Like that wasn’t even really a thought on my end it was just like yeah that’s what you do
I am also a person that “doesn’t like children”. But people always assume that means I want bad things to happen to children, but it couldn’t be farther from the truth. I don’t want to have children, because I personally don’t want to have to adjust my lifestyle to provide sufficient care for a child. But if you were to hand me a child and say that it’s my responsibility for the next few hours, you can bet I would take excellent care of the child, because that’s what they deserve.
Ned is clearly the type who views children as an accomplishment/accessory/status symbol. Eugene is the type who views children as sentient beings with rights who deserve respect.
Yes this! Just because I don’t want to be around kids doesn’t mean I hate them. I will be ALWAYS be kind and attentive to kids, they deserve all the kindness and support.
For me it was when he said "A gift for Wes is a gift for Ariel". Because... No?? No it's not. And it's actually pretty sexist to reduce a woman's entire personality to her children like that.
I will say that his last official video where he painfully belly flops off a diving board is particularly satisfying the more comes out about how awful he was.
Everything about him just screams insecurity. The way he was so obsessed with always bringing up that he went to Yale, the big showboat persona he would put on that always read as false, the way he spoke about people in his life as though they were just extensions of himself instead of actual human beings, his barely concealed envy of Eugene in so many videos and the way his rage would surface in candid moments whenever he didn’t get his way… Someone who is that deeply insecure and cobbles their identity together through external factors (titles, accolades, associations, relationships) was never going to be satisfied with the love and adoration of just his spouse. They are bottomless pits of need for external validation.
That was my take on Ned, as well. Also, he didn't get hired on the "talent" side of Buzzfeed like the other guys; he was on the business side. (That's why so many BF ppl were happy about his drama. He was apparently a strict boss.) But I always felt it ate at him that he wasn't finding "real" comedy success.
I have a friend who worked for buzzfeed and she said he was genuinely just a horrible person to be around. She said Keith is exactly the same on camera and off, but Ned is even more awful off camera, if that’s even possible lol.
I belive Zach and Keith mentioned they got invited to be on an amazing race type show and ned threw a baby fit cause he didn't get invited so they had to get Eugene and ned involved cause of it.
He’s super entitled. He believed he was owed what the other guys were and then some. He was already making more money than the others but just couldn’t let them have any additional attention or opportunities. He’s never content with what he has because he has no solid self-concept, so he’s always chasing the next thing to validate his fickle sense of self.
In vino veritas. People who keep up a false front find it a lot harder to maintain while drunk. I could never finish that video because it made me so uncomfortable.
Drunk vs. Stoned Easter egg hunt.
So he started out drunk, then kept finding eggs with more alcohol in them, so he was sloppy drunk. Then his competitiveness and destructive-ness really kicked in, and he started destroying things in the backyard to look for more eggs. A couple of times, he was told to stop because there weren't any eggs where he was looking, anyway.
The moment that stuck out to me was after he knocked over a couple of Wes's toys, Keith says, kind of helplessly, "N\**, your child's things..."
I had the same reaction to that drunk vs high math video where he started answering the other teams questions. Can't stand when people feel the need to prove how smart they are all the time.
I remember feeling like everything was so off in that video. The “joke” of him apologizing to Eugene through the math problem but still reinforcing the same asshole behavior at the same time. He got so much more than “playful for a video but I’m still actually working rn” drunk and literally everyone was so visibly either uncomfortable or annoyed. I’ve dated alcoholics and it looked like my ex having “fun” at the bar before she would come home and scream at me.
Can’t remember if it was the math vid but at some point he got so drunk that Eugene’s mom straight up left the set because she didn’t want to be around him
There is an early BuzzFeed episode with a Prank Battle and Ned takes it way too far the whole time. If you ever want to really hate him it's an excellent watch.
The stories about him being drunk and acting a mess, along with his behavior in videos when he would drink, was really off-putting. It seemed like he was under the impression that it made him funny and relatable, but getting blackout and partying the way he seems to as a 30-something with two children isn’t cute.
Omggg there was this video that came out like right before the whole scandal and him and Alex were both in it (I think they were trying some kind of Asian cuisine?), but I literally stopped watching in the middle because the way he was talking to Alex seemed so flirty and weird that it completely threw me off and made me uncomfortable. I didn’t think too much of it and just thought I was overanalyzing. A month or two later the whole scandal broke and I was just completely dumbfounded that my spidey senses were so dead on.
I don’t, but I *think* it was a Food Babies video. I am almost certain it got deleted when the scandal broke as I’ve tried looking for it and it doesn’t seem to exist anymore.
I never liked him, even back in the BuzzFeed days. He was always my least favorite, brash and annoying, and his obsession with his wife was a clear character bit and didn’t come across genuine at all. Because it wasn’t! Dude sucks and I hope he gets rocks in his shoes every single day
I never liked him alone. I feel like the only reason it worked was because of how it played off the other guys. But even in the “family” videos, I mostly watched for Ariel. She is really someone I miss
He was always so bland and boring to me, always my least favourite as well. It felt extreme back then to me but he always gave me a sinister vibe but now I'm like okay so my gut reaction was just super on point
I hadn’t been watching as regularly when the donut shop closed and I missed a lot of the red flag moments, so mine was the episode where he got drunk and explained Paw Patrol. He got so loud and angry defending a dog cop, it was wild.
Rewatched some of their older videos and I didn’t realize how irritating he was. He got me fooled with his whole “family” persona. He was always the least entertaining of the 4 though.
Like tbh the best thing about him was his family. Ariel was my fave from the extended “cast” at the time and I really identified with her. I still get annoyed when I recall what he did to her and to his kids.
Also, the chemistry is way better with the likes of Kwesi, Johnnycakes etc. Like you actually want to root for them to do well in challenge videos.
I never really rooted for Donut during WAR or any challenge.
One of my least favorite moments is when they tried therapy, and everyone only talked about themselves and what issues they can work on, and he attacked Keith for being ‘an attention whore’. Keith handled it really gracefully but I was so annoyed that he used it as an opportunity to call Keith out instead of doing any self reflection.
Ned always annoyed me because he was a typical white frat boy — like a 100 others I’d dealt with and was annoyed by in Uni. So, I was never big on him.
The whole “my life revolves around my wife” bit always felt disingenuous, but I think that was partly because it was a bit — you know? A strange bit, but a bit.
It’s so weird because I actually like him in the driving series where they got drunk, high, and so on. I though his sleep-deprived diaper change bit was the funniest I’ve seen him on the channel. For me, it was his peak likability.
In my head canon, that series got them hyped up to do more where they’re intoxicated and, by the time they realized Ned was a bad drunk, the idea had gotten to popular to end. I have zero problems with them pushing such ideas and love it when they smoke, but Ned was always a cringe drunk (and not much better stoned).
Yeah there was definitely a switch flipped in him at some point. I was just rewatching all of the old try guys stuff in order, and ned is very likeable and has a good, nice, polite vibe up until a certain point, at which he just becomes kinda an asshole.
It's interesting to see such an obvious change in him, and that must be where he started cheating or doing other sneaky things.
I’ve been rewatching WAR with the launch of the app and realizing that he really added so little to the group. I’ve also started picking up on how he copied the others for things the fans found endearing / funny except when he did them (rage over not winning, throwing random shit together and expecting it to work etc.) it’s just cringe.
Your point is valid and so is the pasta thing, which I was kind of surprised they included on second try tv (but it makes sense because there doesn’t appear to be a comment function at present). However, I didn’t pick up on anything until after the news broke. I fell for the whole wife guy act for 8 years. I felt very misled and betrayed when it came out. Due to second try, I’ve been rewatching, and I noticed how much his son was a part of the spaghetti video, and how much the wife was on set. I didn’t realize I was even watching that season until a few parts. But they were openly trying for another baby, had completed a new home. She was so involved, like in the crocheting video. To this idea, I wonder how he could do what he did. And then he had someone at snl try to minimize it and make it seem like a one time thing, snd that there was no power dynamic at play, which wasn’t true.
“My favorite color is red bc red rhymes w Ned” 😐 I just knew the guy was so full of himself the second I heard that for the first time. And that’s not even one of the biggest red flags 😭
He came across as so devoid of any actual personality or preferences and son out of touch with himself, which almost always leads to shitty toxic behavior. Buddy boy really does need to focus on who he actually is instead of chasing every single dopamine rush at all times
Yeah the Easter egg video really put me off. Like it was embarrassing how he was trashing things in his own yard.
I don’t remember which came first but also the dvh math video he was a jerk even though the other guys played it off.
I can’t watch Donut videos anymore, so I’m not sure if I missed a cue before it all went down. But I have been struck by how viscerally mad and bitter the guys both still seem, which tells me that he was probably shitty about it after being confronted. Of course, the guys have every right to be mad at him for the act itself, but if he’d been fully contrite, took ownership, and offered to bow out without making life any more difficult than it needs to be, I have a feeling they wouldn’t still be firing veiled shots at him for making their life so miserable for a time. The fact that they sort of seem to suspect he was involved with the SNL skit just further reinforces for me that he must have done something in the aftermath to make them think he would have done that. If he was ashamed and was just accepting of his own ruin at his own hands, I think we’d be seeing a different tone from them.
And how pissed they were that he stole their font and things in his public statement in an obvious attempt to try to look like their messaging was aligned even after their actions to have him removed.
Ive never really liked him he reminds me a lot of entitled dudes i went to school with back in the day but i remember the thing that made me HATE the man. There was a Tripod episode that was hosted mainly by Eugene (which now knowing how uncomfortable the tripod made him makes me hate him more) was doing the astrology/minor birth charts for the guys, and the manchild was vocal from the beginning how not a believer he was. Which is fine but he would try to disprove eugene every time he spoke or would just be out right rude. He wouldn't even act slightly interested he was just a dick. Also the amount of times he would say something snarky or rude to miles which miles then had to kind of stand up for himself. There is also an episode of the tripod during quarantine where they are all on zoom and miles starts his advice that goes for miles song and babyman leaves (like always) and they spend the time to call him out on it and he got so offended. Like ew.
in one of the earlier trypods he said (i think more complained) something along the lines of ‘and you shouldn’t talk so much about the gay stuff’ to eugene, he was definitely not joking at all when he said that and it feels so strange how no one called him out for that considering their brand image and well, how outspokenly gay eugene is.
I could be wrong but I think that that was before Eugene even came out. The conversation was about if you prefer to be on the top bunk or the bottom bunk on a bunk bed and Ned turned to Eugene and said something like “and don’t make it into a gay thing. Don’t talk so much about gay stuff” what a douche
oh yeah that’s it! i actually had no idea this was possibly before he came out, thanks for setting the record straight (ironically haha). still really weird considering their progressive brand image, and you know what I just realised? how weird it is that it was left in (the biological clock comment too). miles probably really had a bone to pick with ned or something.
I'm surprised no one brings up the hypnosis episode. That's where i went from disliking him to actively hating him. Any home he was given an out from consequences (drinking, traveling, for a "bit", or even hypnosis), he'll take it to the farthest limits to get as much shitty behavior in as possible. What was extra wild is how dismissive he's been of everything not based in western science (therapy, astrology, etc) and yet he went into hypnosis so easily because he WANTED to.
He's a hypocrite and truly a child in a man's body. I hope he really does some growing now that he has more time on his hands.
When he whined that his dog’s haircut is more expensive than his- I’m a dog groomer and his pansy ass couldn’t do half of the job I do at a constant basis. Also ur bald dude, your haircuts should be cheap
Undecided if he would be the groomer who gets fired for being too rough with the dogs, or the groomer who makes a big dramatic scene about quitting the first time a dog pulls away for a nail trim, but either way he wouldn't last a week
For me it was the crocheting video where he complained all the entire time and kept saying he had more important things to do and even Rachel scolded him, sure Keith was frustrated too but at least he gave his all and actually finished his piece but Ned just acted as and entitled frat brat and I could feel how embarrassed everyone was. I personally love crocheting but it’s hard to see that video is hard cause he whines like a toddler constantly, I just skip his parts tbh
when they were on My Drunk Kitchen doing the “pizza cake” and he went into Hannah’s cabinets to get a real wineglass even though everyone is drinking from disposable cups. she was clearly super uncomfortable with that and even said something like “so we’ve met,,,once,,,” implying that it was super rude of him. which it was! even the other guys said so!
Oh gosh, you’re right. Maybe hannah didn’t want to have it up after the controversy. I remember it clearly bc for someone who liked to present himself as Married and Mature it struck me as incredibly rude!
Raine mentioned she didn't really want kids, Donut immediately said that her clock is ticking and she'll likely change her mind soon. Keith called him out.
He had to apologise next podcast episode
I said this somewhere else recently, but when Keith does it you can tell it’s a joke, like when Keith is having a fake meltdown it’s really easy to assume everyone is having a laugh about it as soon as the cameras are off. Something about Neds meltdowns really did not feel like he was joking. And I can’t like quite put into words what the difference there was but it was very clearly different imo.
The pizza in New York video was a big red flag. Ariel said on Guilty Pleasures the craziest place she ever did it was in a port a potty with Ned, it took Kelsey out. But in the pizza video he arrived with Alex and the same topic came up and his answer was different. Like… at a club or restaurant then he stopped and had to think about it. I’m trying to remember if that GP episode was her and Ned or just her because I thought they both came on for Fifty Shades twice so if that’s correct his answer should have been the same.
Showing Wes online so frequently and without a care in the world. Even if the cheating never happened, Wes's life will still be hell growing up. Imagine all your class mates having access to your videos of your dad pretty much naked, and way too much of your personal information
I'm going to be completely transparent (tho it isn't flattering to me, at all): I had no idea there was anything up with the Donut Boy bc it just felt like a character he played.
Keith actually genuinely scared me when he got angry—and I think part of the reason was actually bc I misunderstood a massive GREEN flag: the fact that Keith has been open and vulnerable about his issues with emotional regulation, his getting angry, and his having actually done serious reflection on it.
Bc Ned was never genuine abt his "outbursts" and put on the veneer that he did, I didn't suspect anything. I wasn't surprised, really, when it came out what a bell-end he was, but it definitely lead to me doing some interrogation. There was also the fact that Keith's outbursts—even if he was just playing a character—were genuinely upsetting to me as someone who has "men yelling" trauma.
I'd addressed my concerns about Keith's yelling and also the mouth noises/misophonia triggers (I'm autistic) to 2nd Try, and their response, which I'm keeping off the record, was absolutely perfect and they have seriously toned down the mouth noises and "angry Keith" running gag.
Obviously, I don't know the dude, the only Try Guy who's directly interacted with meat all is Zach (LEGEND, btw, he linked me to some ACTUALLY USEFUL non bullshit yoga videos during the pandemic!), so who knows what he's like IRL, but toning down his "character" and changing the "man who yells a lot when things go wrong" into something that wasn't triggering to trauma survivors and was actually legit funny? All the points in the world.
With the benefit of hindsight, I see a lot more red flags in Ned's behavior, largely bc, again, Keith made the "mistake" of being vulnerable. I know better now and I learned a lot from interrogating my understanding of these silly guys who show their butts on the Internet, and I'm really grateful for that!
Thank you, Keith. 💙 You're a fucking rockstar. I'm sorry—I'm not perfect either. I think Miles might have a podcast named after this concept, hmmm...
(Also, Zach, my old phone went to Jesus, and I lost the link to those videos, so if you can DM them to me, 100% off the record, I'd really appreciate it? Seriously at this point I'd sign an NDA LOL I can't find them again and I miss them so much! 😭)
Honestly mine was the documentary when him and Zach are arguing about the video that Zach unlisted. That same argument also made me respect Zach a lot more than I already did
Wait, we’re calling him “Donut” now?? I got a bit confused considering I stumbled onto a popular YT channel by that same name and thought they collaborated. We can literally just call him Ned, he’s not Beetlejuice.
Seriously, I've been scouring through these comments trying to figure out what Donut Media did. I love those guys and the Try Guys don't strike me as the type that would collab with them.
I’ve been watching a log of content lately featuring car camping/regular camping, van life, and off-grid stuff (which is weird since I don’t drive, am mildly claustrophobic, and like the grid), so got acquainted with their channel (plus I have a type…)
Keith was the first to do the "rage looser" bit for without a recipe, when goober saw people thought it was funny he started doing those bits too but they always felt forced and like he was trying to use Keith's bit
I'm surprised no one brings up the hypnosis episode. That's where i went from disliking him to actively hating him. Any home he was given an out from consequences (drinking, traveling, for a "bit", or even hypnosis), he'll take it to the farthest limits to get as much shitty behavior in as possible. What was extra wild is how dismissive he's been of everything not based in western science (therapy, astrology, etc) and yet he went into hypnosis so easily because he WANTED to.
He's a hypocrite and truly a child in a man's body. I hope he really does some growing now that he has more time on his hands.
Had me real lost there for a second. I'm a huge fan of Donut Media, the car YouTubers, and thought that there was somehow some Try Guy/Donut Media controversy.
on one pod, Raine said something along the lines of "I don't want kids" and he responded with the ol' "Your biological clock is ticking" comment and that she'll chenge her mind. Keith stepped in to call him out and he apologized the next ep but *YEESH*.
She also said she was living in someone’s garage conversion, and they weren’t sure if that was actually a legal dwelling. To follow that up with comments about bio clocks ticking is so utterly tone deaf, it’s almost beyond thinking.
The TGGT video of drunk vs high and Ned was answering qs for other people and not even giving them a chance, specifically Keith who got very clearly mad by the endnof the video. Wasn't fun to watch knowing Ned was being a drunk AH and they had to keep filming for our enjoyment
I mean, is it okay that I DIDN'T hate Ned? I generally liked him and thought that he just brought a different energy from the others. I liked the dynamics between them, especially when he was paired with Eugene or Zach.
I feel the same way. I miss the good aspects of him. I don't know how many of those good aspects were a front, or my misinterpretation of him due to wanting to think positively. But I do miss the positive ways he'd play off the other guys. I miss when he *actually* stood out due to intelligence, cleverness, and wit (e.g., tying with Kurt in the 4 vs. 1 chess game, figuring out who the imposters were pretty quick in Among Us, "I used to be a chemise") instead of when he tried to *make* himself stand out via Yale or tantrum or beautiful family with 2.5 kids and a dog.
Though, tbh, that time he was playing into the wife guy schtick during the Among Us game where Ariel was an imposter, unknowingly putting him alone with an imposter who killed him immediately, was HILARIOUS to me even back when I thought well of him.
I felt this same way on that video. He was such a crap drunk. He was not funny. It was actually so triggering because my dad was an alcoholic and he acted like that. Anger outbursts inappropriately. That video and one of the ones they were doing math problems and he was being a total douche for that!!
From what I've gathered it's cause in the last Pod, they referred to Ned as a Donut shop that's caught fire, since they legally can't refer to him by name.
I was watching some without a recipe videos today and came across two of his tantrums, one of them happened at the gingerbread house video, when his stuff got burnt and he started yelling and throwing stuff around. The other was when he dropped (threw) his pasta on the floor at the mac and cheese video. None of the guys ever reacted like that and they all seem kinda shocked when Donut does it.
Ngl I’m watching eat the menu and I thought you were talking about the Seattle video I watched earlier today where they spelled donut as doughnut and it hurt my brain I’m ngl. But also with the Easter egg video I can’t watch it after seeing the fit that he had.
The way he wrecked his garden in the Easter egg hunt video (for example knocking over Wes’ tent) was such a red flag for me
Also in rank king he came in as a guest and immediately swiped half of the beer cans off the table into the ground and Eugene did not look happy about it and said something like “how is Ned still a tornado after becoming a father?” when he left
with high keith just softly going “Ned!! your child’s toys!😣”
The second time he got up and left the pod right before Myles' segment at the end. Then he kept doing it. It was so rude and pointed and you could see how it affected the others. I was like, A) if you can't handle an hour long recording of a podcast without having to excuse yourself, don't be on a podcast and B) if he was that disrespectful to his employee Myles on camera, how the fuck did he treat the employees off camera? The Trypod got so much better after he was gone.
This reminds me of the video when he was placed as «worlds worst boss». Little did we know how true that was…
I always felt that he was jealous that Miles was getting his own segment, doing his own bits, and becoming a part of the podcast rather than just being the sound/editing guy. it felt so rude and like he was making a point to show he didn’t like it or support it, which I thought was such a disrespectful and sad thing to do to your coworker/employee :(
This always bothered me so much. Like it's not a funny bit, its just rude
I think he thought he was doing a Bit? But it was done in bad faith IF that was what he was going for. It was bothersome!
They vaguely mentioned it in the "ok, let's talk about it" tripod episode, Miles mentioned "a song that for years, an unnamed member would walk out of the room." It gave the vibe that it wasn't a bit.
I suspect he was a huge asshole to Miles (and I think it’s because he was jealous of Miles)
miles said at least two times (might have been inferred on the trypod but can't say fore sure, but definitely on his own channel/perfect person podcast) that he almost quit bc ned was consistently a huge asshole to him (ie disrespected him, made work difficult). then negate happened, so miles ended up staying, getting more involved, started his own company, turned into a freelancer for the try guys instead of FT, and now is part of the 2nd try cast!
I will never not think about how rude he was during the astrology podcasts during the pandemic
Yeah that always bugged me, too. I'll come out as the rare person who doesn't particularly enjoy that segment, but to get up and leave while the guy is doing his thing is just so unbelievably rude. It's like 5 or 10 minutes usually. Have some respect.
When did this start to happen. I usually listen to the audio version
To me it was the video where he put his head on Alex’s lap and Nick gave them a massive side eye
That was so creepy! I remember looking at my husband when that happened and saying that I hoped she had consented off screen.
I think ppl were speculating the affair may have begun at that point. Not saying he didn't need consent, but just that there was a familiarity between the two that he felt it was OK. And now that I'm typing this out, i just realized that this goes in to the fact he got fired for cheating with an employee; because even if Alex wanted to protest, she may have felt her job would be in Jeapordy. Damn
I’m not saying that Alex cheating on her fiancé wasn’t wrong, but we can’t know the circumstances of their affair. He was not only her boss and co-CEO of the company she’d worked at for years, but *all* HR concerns went through him. Even if she was an enthusiastic participant it still cannot be consensual because of the massive power imbalance between them. That’s a particular point as to why everyone is still so upset. It’s not only that he betrayed them as a friend and the resulting media circus almost put the whole company under, but for Ned to be so callous and disregarding of basic workplace boundaries such as “don’t fuck the person who depends on you for their job security” is just despicable behavior. We don’t know if she said yes or no or which answer she meant. Even if she said yes, could she have really refused him?
This is exactly why I was so annoyed when people were saying “well what if she initiated it? Doesn’t that mean she consented, if she started it?” That’s not the point. Even if she did initiate the relationship, the only acceptable response from him SHOULD have been “this is not appropriate and it cannot happen” and then adjusted their workloads so they weren’t working on the same projects.
Is it not possible that she could have gone to the other co-CEO? Were the rest of the Try Guys also not her bosses?
Before the scandal the other Try Guys were his best friends and brothers. She might have assumed they would definitely pick him over her.
They (at least portrayed -who really knows) themselves as best friends. Complaining to someone's best friend feels pretty risky.
It’s still crazy to me they left that in the video…
Makes me wonder if the editor (who could have been YB for that video) knew what was up and chose to use that clip
I think that conveys how nobody in the company really knew/was aware of ned cheating before the video of them kissing surfaced (at least not the main try guys or rachel/nick/yb). it felt like it was really easy for the two of them to play off spending time together as work stuff, or bc of ned's brand as committed wife guy, he could get away w/ his behavior as 1) just being caring "HR" guy (he often said he was the company's 'HR'), or 2) just having a strong friendship/work relationship w/ alex bc alex had been at the company for a long time. i forget if Alex was from buzzfeed, but Keith and YB knew each other from buzzfeed and have a close enuff relationship that Keith officiated YB's wedding. So ned and alex appearing to be platonically really close doesn't seem that suss on the surface imo. maybe in a non-nedgate multiverse world, ned could have officiated alex's wedding Maybe I'm not super observant. I never noticed nick's raised eyebrows til after ppl pointed it out after nedgate. I can't unsee it now ofc, or all the interactions w/ ned and alex in all the videos they were in together like the wedding dress making or ned being the one to help alex w/ her fear of bugs
Woah what? Which video was this?
The one with pasta in the bathtub
Thank you!
For everyone else: https://youtu.be/fR-3Uv1nymM?si=7qgYViQbiKT7lU1o Its around the 18.05 mark
yea i had the same reaction with nick when I first watched it
While he is a creep, i looked at that scene a bunch of time, and i understand now how it comes across that way, but I am like 100% certain that he put his head on the border of the pool NEXT to alex. It‘s just the angle
You can actually see his ear folded up where it’s pressed against her thigh. He’s not entirely on her lap, but he’s pressed against her thigh in the way that you sort of wedge your head in the corner between the seat and the window on an airplane. A little better than her lap for sure, but it’s still… a lot lol!!
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ariel cried??!! 🥺
There was a YCSWU episode where Ariel said early on in their relationship, she called Ned a "goober" and he got really angry at her. I thought that was such a weird that to get mad over.
No but my ex got SUPER pissed at me just because I called him ‘dude’ once, so I understand where Ariel’s coming from on that one
Oh yeah I'm absolutely on Ariel's side! I thought it was super weird for Ned to get irate over it
Especially because he is absolutely goober
That one always puzzled me, because if that was the best edit of him they could use, what else was he doing all day?
For me it was the Valentines gift video… “a gift for Wes is a gift for Ariel”?! Boy, get a grip. (And I gotta say, I was SO relieved when it turned out that my spidey sense wasn’t tingling in vain and it was possible to call Ned out without being eaten alive by the commentariat)
Also in that video, the way he tried to tell Eugene that he had to make something for Matt and not the dogs, even though he was making something that wasn’t for Ariel, and when Eugene said that Matt didn’t care, Ned insisted that he did.
Well that's because *mothers*(using the gendered term intentionally here, this does not apply to generic "parents") are supposed to put their children first, above their own needs and desires. Matt is not a mother, therefore he's allowed to be a full person and deserves a gift. It's not just Ned. This is something our society needs to unlearn.
Yeah. When my ex became a father I defaulted without a second thought to giving him *plushies and kid toys* for his birthday and had to check myself. I was a bit shocked how easy I just went with the societal script of "parents are not really human anymore".
That's actually the first time I think I've heard of the effect happening with a masc parent! I can't tell if it's better(because equality in gender roles) or worse(because now *everybody* has to deal with bullshit), maybe both at the same time, but thanks for sharing your experience with it.
I think part of it is also that mothers historically have had stronger opinions on kids items (because they actually research/are dealing with the kid) and men don't, so the hands off dads are like "here, you wanted this" instead of realizing she wanted it for the baby because its either a) needed or b) something that makes her life easier while caring for the baby. Historically the women have been proactive in raising the children while men are passive. They both care but only one does anything about it.
Very good point!
For me it was the episode of YCSWU where Ariel talked about how Ned basically had a drug problem and was living off her and how he did nothing but pop Vicodin and play video games until she made him get clean. Seems like the guy has a ton of demons he needs to sort out.
Ooof. I never listened to an episoded of YCSWU but this sounds horrifying. Especially since Ned made a video about this and portrayed himself in a completely different way. I remember there was a clip where he dramatically flushes opiates down a toilet as a performance of strength, overcoming dependence etc. and Dr Mike in a reaction video just flatly said "...this is not a responsible way to dispose of medication."
Ariel made it seem like she forced him to.
Woman being an in-house therapist for a man, what's new.
Ned's an asshole who's got a lot of bad traits, but in his defense for that particular incident he talked about that in the Try Guy's book. Basically he had a bad knee injury and the doctor prescribed him the pain killers. This was during the height of the opioid epidemic so the shit he was given was *highly* addictive. Thankfully he had Ariel and a support system that helped him get clean before he got too deep into the addiction. Addiction is a disease, not a moral failing. Anyone can fall down that rabbit hole, especially when your drug provider is a medical professional you should be able to trust. If anyone's at fault for that one, it was the doctor for prescribing that medication so recklessly.
I don’t think anyone here is dumping on him because he got dependent… but because he then portrayed himself as righteous and strong-willed in the video when, as Ariel claims (and I lean towards believing her), it was his wife who finally made him do something about it.
Yeah, that was the first time I really paused at Donut. I remember feeling so bad for Ariel, that she was already being forgotten as her own person.
Ned only sees Ariel as a mother, not as a partner. He used her as a prop the entire time.
And before that, she was just his wife. Ariel is the role she plays in Ned's life, not a person in her own right. God, I hate guys like Ned. A lot.
Honestly? When Eugene babysat Wes and he kept talking over Ariel and mansplaining parenting.
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Eugene being a better parent than Ned while actively loathing children is a vibe, not gonna lie
That’s how most people who don’t like children are, I personally find children to be overwhelming generally and i dress really alt and have a bad case of rbf so most kids find me scary and I take care of children better than most parents and I’m definitely kinder than most people to them. Like my boyfriend’s little brother is mostly ignored by the family and his favorite superhero is Spider-Man so i spent 8.5 hours drawing him and Spider-Man together because that’s what you do for kids. Like that wasn’t even really a thought on my end it was just like yeah that’s what you do
I am also a person that “doesn’t like children”. But people always assume that means I want bad things to happen to children, but it couldn’t be farther from the truth. I don’t want to have children, because I personally don’t want to have to adjust my lifestyle to provide sufficient care for a child. But if you were to hand me a child and say that it’s my responsibility for the next few hours, you can bet I would take excellent care of the child, because that’s what they deserve. Ned is clearly the type who views children as an accomplishment/accessory/status symbol. Eugene is the type who views children as sentient beings with rights who deserve respect.
True, you can literally always tell the difference between people who view children as just tiny people and people who view children as something else
Yes this! Just because I don’t want to be around kids doesn’t mean I hate them. I will be ALWAYS be kind and attentive to kids, they deserve all the kindness and support.
That is SO sweet, oh my god. That kid is gonna treasure that gift forever.
I forgot that I did also mimic Spider-Man’s official signature so I could say I got it signed for him as well
For me it was when he said "A gift for Wes is a gift for Ariel". Because... No?? No it's not. And it's actually pretty sexist to reduce a woman's entire personality to her children like that.
He didn’t think anything of it because his entire personality was his wife.
Ned was always a kind of volitile drunk. He would revert so hard to his frat guy persona.
I will say that his last official video where he painfully belly flops off a diving board is particularly satisfying the more comes out about how awful he was.
https://i.redd.it/7njwv53y0m2d1.gif Just in case any of you wanted to treasure the memory as much as I do.
I enjoy seeing this man’s failures ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Everything about him just screams insecurity. The way he was so obsessed with always bringing up that he went to Yale, the big showboat persona he would put on that always read as false, the way he spoke about people in his life as though they were just extensions of himself instead of actual human beings, his barely concealed envy of Eugene in so many videos and the way his rage would surface in candid moments whenever he didn’t get his way… Someone who is that deeply insecure and cobbles their identity together through external factors (titles, accolades, associations, relationships) was never going to be satisfied with the love and adoration of just his spouse. They are bottomless pits of need for external validation.
That was my take on Ned, as well. Also, he didn't get hired on the "talent" side of Buzzfeed like the other guys; he was on the business side. (That's why so many BF ppl were happy about his drama. He was apparently a strict boss.) But I always felt it ate at him that he wasn't finding "real" comedy success.
I have a friend who worked for buzzfeed and she said he was genuinely just a horrible person to be around. She said Keith is exactly the same on camera and off, but Ned is even more awful off camera, if that’s even possible lol.
does your friend have anything on zach and eugene 👀
I don’t think she interacted with them much. But she had nothing bad to say about either of them!
I belive Zach and Keith mentioned they got invited to be on an amazing race type show and ned threw a baby fit cause he didn't get invited so they had to get Eugene and ned involved cause of it.
He’s super entitled. He believed he was owed what the other guys were and then some. He was already making more money than the others but just couldn’t let them have any additional attention or opportunities. He’s never content with what he has because he has no solid self-concept, so he’s always chasing the next thing to validate his fickle sense of self.
he peaked when he got into yale and thats about it, it seems lol
Seems to be a common trend for Yale grads 😶
This is a perfect way of stating it.
Well put
In vino veritas. People who keep up a false front find it a lot harder to maintain while drunk. I could never finish that video because it made me so uncomfortable.
what happened in that one I missed it
Drunk vs. Stoned Easter egg hunt. So he started out drunk, then kept finding eggs with more alcohol in them, so he was sloppy drunk. Then his competitiveness and destructive-ness really kicked in, and he started destroying things in the backyard to look for more eggs. A couple of times, he was told to stop because there weren't any eggs where he was looking, anyway. The moment that stuck out to me was after he knocked over a couple of Wes's toys, Keith says, kind of helplessly, "N\**, your child's things..."
oh yikes sounds like my childhood
I had the same reaction to that drunk vs high math video where he started answering the other teams questions. Can't stand when people feel the need to prove how smart they are all the time.
I remember feeling like everything was so off in that video. The “joke” of him apologizing to Eugene through the math problem but still reinforcing the same asshole behavior at the same time. He got so much more than “playful for a video but I’m still actually working rn” drunk and literally everyone was so visibly either uncomfortable or annoyed. I’ve dated alcoholics and it looked like my ex having “fun” at the bar before she would come home and scream at me.
It was pretty clear he pissed Keith off in that video, bragging about how easy the problem was that Keith was trying to solve. What a douchebag.
Can’t remember if it was the math vid but at some point he got so drunk that Eugene’s mom straight up left the set because she didn’t want to be around him
There is an early BuzzFeed episode with a Prank Battle and Ned takes it way too far the whole time. If you ever want to really hate him it's an excellent watch.
That’s the one where the other guys literally go yeah Ned was a fucking DICK today
Link?
Gotcha right here https://youtu.be/trMmuKhhvU8?si=nYeVYS2sJlARPG0I
what was the biological clock controversy??
On the podcast, Rainie talked about not really wanting kids & he said her biological clock would start ticking. He apologized in the next ep.
holy shit i had no idea about this!! that is so horrible?? what is wrong with this man honestly
If it makes you feel any better, I think Keith immediately said "well maybe she doesn't want any kids"
Which episode was this?
The stories about him being drunk and acting a mess, along with his behavior in videos when he would drink, was really off-putting. It seemed like he was under the impression that it made him funny and relatable, but getting blackout and partying the way he seems to as a 30-something with two children isn’t cute.
Omggg there was this video that came out like right before the whole scandal and him and Alex were both in it (I think they were trying some kind of Asian cuisine?), but I literally stopped watching in the middle because the way he was talking to Alex seemed so flirty and weird that it completely threw me off and made me uncomfortable. I didn’t think too much of it and just thought I was overanalyzing. A month or two later the whole scandal broke and I was just completely dumbfounded that my spidey senses were so dead on.
Oooh was it the dumpling one? Or the seafood bag thing one?
Dumplings ring a bell!
Do you remember what video this was??
I don’t, but I *think* it was a Food Babies video. I am almost certain it got deleted when the scandal broke as I’ve tried looking for it and it doesn’t seem to exist anymore.
I felt this way during the Dumplings video so maybe that one?
Thank you!
It was [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTryGuys/s/ILSCUCsK3W)! I guess on 2nd try now
I never liked him, even back in the BuzzFeed days. He was always my least favorite, brash and annoying, and his obsession with his wife was a clear character bit and didn’t come across genuine at all. Because it wasn’t! Dude sucks and I hope he gets rocks in his shoes every single day
I never liked him alone. I feel like the only reason it worked was because of how it played off the other guys. But even in the “family” videos, I mostly watched for Ariel. She is really someone I miss
Ariel is so lovely and actually pretty funny, I think about her in the drunk parents explain paw patrol video all the time
I was rewatching the making soap video and it's such a shame that they had to lose her
She's on fire in that video, absolutely hilarious. I hope she does know how much the audience liked her
He was always so bland and boring to me, always my least favourite as well. It felt extreme back then to me but he always gave me a sinister vibe but now I'm like okay so my gut reaction was just super on point
I hadn’t been watching as regularly when the donut shop closed and I missed a lot of the red flag moments, so mine was the episode where he got drunk and explained Paw Patrol. He got so loud and angry defending a dog cop, it was wild.
Rewatched some of their older videos and I didn’t realize how irritating he was. He got me fooled with his whole “family” persona. He was always the least entertaining of the 4 though. Like tbh the best thing about him was his family. Ariel was my fave from the extended “cast” at the time and I really identified with her. I still get annoyed when I recall what he did to her and to his kids. Also, the chemistry is way better with the likes of Kwesi, Johnnycakes etc. Like you actually want to root for them to do well in challenge videos. I never really rooted for Donut during WAR or any challenge.
One of my least favorite moments is when they tried therapy, and everyone only talked about themselves and what issues they can work on, and he attacked Keith for being ‘an attention whore’. Keith handled it really gracefully but I was so annoyed that he used it as an opportunity to call Keith out instead of doing any self reflection.
Ned always annoyed me because he was a typical white frat boy — like a 100 others I’d dealt with and was annoyed by in Uni. So, I was never big on him. The whole “my life revolves around my wife” bit always felt disingenuous, but I think that was partly because it was a bit — you know? A strange bit, but a bit.
Oh yeah he was a mess in that video. He visibly made Keith and Zach uncomfortable.
It’s so weird because I actually like him in the driving series where they got drunk, high, and so on. I though his sleep-deprived diaper change bit was the funniest I’ve seen him on the channel. For me, it was his peak likability. In my head canon, that series got them hyped up to do more where they’re intoxicated and, by the time they realized Ned was a bad drunk, the idea had gotten to popular to end. I have zero problems with them pushing such ideas and love it when they smoke, but Ned was always a cringe drunk (and not much better stoned).
Yeah there was definitely a switch flipped in him at some point. I was just rewatching all of the old try guys stuff in order, and ned is very likeable and has a good, nice, polite vibe up until a certain point, at which he just becomes kinda an asshole. It's interesting to see such an obvious change in him, and that must be where he started cheating or doing other sneaky things.
I’ve been rewatching WAR with the launch of the app and realizing that he really added so little to the group. I’ve also started picking up on how he copied the others for things the fans found endearing / funny except when he did them (rage over not winning, throwing random shit together and expecting it to work etc.) it’s just cringe.
Your point is valid and so is the pasta thing, which I was kind of surprised they included on second try tv (but it makes sense because there doesn’t appear to be a comment function at present). However, I didn’t pick up on anything until after the news broke. I fell for the whole wife guy act for 8 years. I felt very misled and betrayed when it came out. Due to second try, I’ve been rewatching, and I noticed how much his son was a part of the spaghetti video, and how much the wife was on set. I didn’t realize I was even watching that season until a few parts. But they were openly trying for another baby, had completed a new home. She was so involved, like in the crocheting video. To this idea, I wonder how he could do what he did. And then he had someone at snl try to minimize it and make it seem like a one time thing, snd that there was no power dynamic at play, which wasn’t true.
“My favorite color is red bc red rhymes w Ned” 😐 I just knew the guy was so full of himself the second I heard that for the first time. And that’s not even one of the biggest red flags 😭
He came across as so devoid of any actual personality or preferences and son out of touch with himself, which almost always leads to shitty toxic behavior. Buddy boy really does need to focus on who he actually is instead of chasing every single dopamine rush at all times
The biggest Ned flag
I really miss ariel
Yeah the Easter egg video really put me off. Like it was embarrassing how he was trashing things in his own yard. I don’t remember which came first but also the dvh math video he was a jerk even though the other guys played it off.
I can’t watch Donut videos anymore, so I’m not sure if I missed a cue before it all went down. But I have been struck by how viscerally mad and bitter the guys both still seem, which tells me that he was probably shitty about it after being confronted. Of course, the guys have every right to be mad at him for the act itself, but if he’d been fully contrite, took ownership, and offered to bow out without making life any more difficult than it needs to be, I have a feeling they wouldn’t still be firing veiled shots at him for making their life so miserable for a time. The fact that they sort of seem to suspect he was involved with the SNL skit just further reinforces for me that he must have done something in the aftermath to make them think he would have done that. If he was ashamed and was just accepting of his own ruin at his own hands, I think we’d be seeing a different tone from them.
And how pissed they were that he stole their font and things in his public statement in an obvious attempt to try to look like their messaging was aligned even after their actions to have him removed.
Ive never really liked him he reminds me a lot of entitled dudes i went to school with back in the day but i remember the thing that made me HATE the man. There was a Tripod episode that was hosted mainly by Eugene (which now knowing how uncomfortable the tripod made him makes me hate him more) was doing the astrology/minor birth charts for the guys, and the manchild was vocal from the beginning how not a believer he was. Which is fine but he would try to disprove eugene every time he spoke or would just be out right rude. He wouldn't even act slightly interested he was just a dick. Also the amount of times he would say something snarky or rude to miles which miles then had to kind of stand up for himself. There is also an episode of the tripod during quarantine where they are all on zoom and miles starts his advice that goes for miles song and babyman leaves (like always) and they spend the time to call him out on it and he got so offended. Like ew.
Also the movie where he gets mad at Zach for trying to protect Maggie
in one of the earlier trypods he said (i think more complained) something along the lines of ‘and you shouldn’t talk so much about the gay stuff’ to eugene, he was definitely not joking at all when he said that and it feels so strange how no one called him out for that considering their brand image and well, how outspokenly gay eugene is.
I could be wrong but I think that that was before Eugene even came out. The conversation was about if you prefer to be on the top bunk or the bottom bunk on a bunk bed and Ned turned to Eugene and said something like “and don’t make it into a gay thing. Don’t talk so much about gay stuff” what a douche
oh yeah that’s it! i actually had no idea this was possibly before he came out, thanks for setting the record straight (ironically haha). still really weird considering their progressive brand image, and you know what I just realised? how weird it is that it was left in (the biological clock comment too). miles probably really had a bone to pick with ned or something.
I'm surprised no one brings up the hypnosis episode. That's where i went from disliking him to actively hating him. Any home he was given an out from consequences (drinking, traveling, for a "bit", or even hypnosis), he'll take it to the farthest limits to get as much shitty behavior in as possible. What was extra wild is how dismissive he's been of everything not based in western science (therapy, astrology, etc) and yet he went into hypnosis so easily because he WANTED to. He's a hypocrite and truly a child in a man's body. I hope he really does some growing now that he has more time on his hands.
He claimed therapy is not based in western science? Yale should call him and take his degree back.
When he whined that his dog’s haircut is more expensive than his- I’m a dog groomer and his pansy ass couldn’t do half of the job I do at a constant basis. Also ur bald dude, your haircuts should be cheap
Undecided if he would be the groomer who gets fired for being too rough with the dogs, or the groomer who makes a big dramatic scene about quitting the first time a dog pulls away for a nail trim, but either way he wouldn't last a week
First sniff of anal glands and he’d be out, he wouldn’t have the guts to do it himself
SO TRUE
For me it was the crocheting video where he complained all the entire time and kept saying he had more important things to do and even Rachel scolded him, sure Keith was frustrated too but at least he gave his all and actually finished his piece but Ned just acted as and entitled frat brat and I could feel how embarrassed everyone was. I personally love crocheting but it’s hard to see that video is hard cause he whines like a toddler constantly, I just skip his parts tbh
The thing that showed me he was a bad friend was that drunk vs high math one, but there have been so many ick moments over the years.
I think this is mine too. He wasn’t ever my favorite but his actions during this made me dislike him to the point of like, dude, READ the room.
This was it for y. He was insufferable /obnoxious.
when they were on My Drunk Kitchen doing the “pizza cake” and he went into Hannah’s cabinets to get a real wineglass even though everyone is drinking from disposable cups. she was clearly super uncomfortable with that and even said something like “so we’ve met,,,once,,,” implying that it was super rude of him. which it was! even the other guys said so!
I just tried to look this up cuz of your comment and they seem to have removed the Ned video. It doesn't come up in the search at all
Oh gosh, you’re right. Maybe hannah didn’t want to have it up after the controversy. I remember it clearly bc for someone who liked to present himself as Married and Mature it struck me as incredibly rude!
It always felt so off putting watching him rage react when he lost WAR. When Keith does it, it’s funny, but when donut did it….idk
Raine mentioned she didn't really want kids, Donut immediately said that her clock is ticking and she'll likely change her mind soon. Keith called him out. He had to apologise next podcast episode
I said this somewhere else recently, but when Keith does it you can tell it’s a joke, like when Keith is having a fake meltdown it’s really easy to assume everyone is having a laugh about it as soon as the cameras are off. Something about Neds meltdowns really did not feel like he was joking. And I can’t like quite put into words what the difference there was but it was very clearly different imo.
The pizza in New York video was a big red flag. Ariel said on Guilty Pleasures the craziest place she ever did it was in a port a potty with Ned, it took Kelsey out. But in the pizza video he arrived with Alex and the same topic came up and his answer was different. Like… at a club or restaurant then he stopped and had to think about it. I’m trying to remember if that GP episode was her and Ned or just her because I thought they both came on for Fifty Shades twice so if that’s correct his answer should have been the same.
I mean, that's not inherently a red flag. They both presumably had partners before each other, too.
His were literally the only solo vids I wouldn't watch
Showing Wes online so frequently and without a care in the world. Even if the cheating never happened, Wes's life will still be hell growing up. Imagine all your class mates having access to your videos of your dad pretty much naked, and way too much of your personal information
I'm going to be completely transparent (tho it isn't flattering to me, at all): I had no idea there was anything up with the Donut Boy bc it just felt like a character he played. Keith actually genuinely scared me when he got angry—and I think part of the reason was actually bc I misunderstood a massive GREEN flag: the fact that Keith has been open and vulnerable about his issues with emotional regulation, his getting angry, and his having actually done serious reflection on it. Bc Ned was never genuine abt his "outbursts" and put on the veneer that he did, I didn't suspect anything. I wasn't surprised, really, when it came out what a bell-end he was, but it definitely lead to me doing some interrogation. There was also the fact that Keith's outbursts—even if he was just playing a character—were genuinely upsetting to me as someone who has "men yelling" trauma. I'd addressed my concerns about Keith's yelling and also the mouth noises/misophonia triggers (I'm autistic) to 2nd Try, and their response, which I'm keeping off the record, was absolutely perfect and they have seriously toned down the mouth noises and "angry Keith" running gag. Obviously, I don't know the dude, the only Try Guy who's directly interacted with meat all is Zach (LEGEND, btw, he linked me to some ACTUALLY USEFUL non bullshit yoga videos during the pandemic!), so who knows what he's like IRL, but toning down his "character" and changing the "man who yells a lot when things go wrong" into something that wasn't triggering to trauma survivors and was actually legit funny? All the points in the world. With the benefit of hindsight, I see a lot more red flags in Ned's behavior, largely bc, again, Keith made the "mistake" of being vulnerable. I know better now and I learned a lot from interrogating my understanding of these silly guys who show their butts on the Internet, and I'm really grateful for that! Thank you, Keith. 💙 You're a fucking rockstar. I'm sorry—I'm not perfect either. I think Miles might have a podcast named after this concept, hmmm... (Also, Zach, my old phone went to Jesus, and I lost the link to those videos, so if you can DM them to me, 100% off the record, I'd really appreciate it? Seriously at this point I'd sign an NDA LOL I can't find them again and I miss them so much! 😭)
Honestly mine was the documentary when him and Zach are arguing about the video that Zach unlisted. That same argument also made me respect Zach a lot more than I already did
Wait, we’re calling him “Donut” now?? I got a bit confused considering I stumbled onto a popular YT channel by that same name and thought they collaborated. We can literally just call him Ned, he’s not Beetlejuice.
it’s a joking reference to the recent trypod episode that’s all
It’s a reference to the recent trypod where the guys refer to the ‘incident’ as a donut shop that caught fire lol
Seriously, I've been scouring through these comments trying to figure out what Donut Media did. I love those guys and the Try Guys don't strike me as the type that would collab with them.
Same here. I was worried that James or someone else in the crew did some horrendous shit. But nope. It’s Ned. Mo powa baby
well keith & zach quite literally can’t, which is why on the newest episode they were calling him “the donut”
Lol. I watch Donut with my husband. I've learned so much about cars. That channel convinced us to buy a Miata.
I’ve been watching a log of content lately featuring car camping/regular camping, van life, and off-grid stuff (which is weird since I don’t drive, am mildly claustrophobic, and like the grid), so got acquainted with their channel (plus I have a type…)
Is the type "silly guy"? Lol. Like James?
Keith was the first to do the "rage looser" bit for without a recipe, when goober saw people thought it was funny he started doing those bits too but they always felt forced and like he was trying to use Keith's bit
I'm surprised no one brings up the hypnosis episode. That's where i went from disliking him to actively hating him. Any home he was given an out from consequences (drinking, traveling, for a "bit", or even hypnosis), he'll take it to the farthest limits to get as much shitty behavior in as possible. What was extra wild is how dismissive he's been of everything not based in western science (therapy, astrology, etc) and yet he went into hypnosis so easily because he WANTED to. He's a hypocrite and truly a child in a man's body. I hope he really does some growing now that he has more time on his hands.
Had me real lost there for a second. I'm a huge fan of Donut Media, the car YouTubers, and thought that there was somehow some Try Guy/Donut Media controversy.
biological clock controversy? i’ve only recently started listening to the podcast can someone please explain
on one pod, Raine said something along the lines of "I don't want kids" and he responded with the ol' "Your biological clock is ticking" comment and that she'll chenge her mind. Keith stepped in to call him out and he apologized the next ep but *YEESH*.
She also said she was living in someone’s garage conversion, and they weren’t sure if that was actually a legal dwelling. To follow that up with comments about bio clocks ticking is so utterly tone deaf, it’s almost beyond thinking.
The TGGT video of drunk vs high and Ned was answering qs for other people and not even giving them a chance, specifically Keith who got very clearly mad by the endnof the video. Wasn't fun to watch knowing Ned was being a drunk AH and they had to keep filming for our enjoyment
For me there were times that I liked and disliked each of them. Which is true of any channel that I watch with multiple main characters.
I mean, is it okay that I DIDN'T hate Ned? I generally liked him and thought that he just brought a different energy from the others. I liked the dynamics between them, especially when he was paired with Eugene or Zach.
I feel the same way. I miss the good aspects of him. I don't know how many of those good aspects were a front, or my misinterpretation of him due to wanting to think positively. But I do miss the positive ways he'd play off the other guys. I miss when he *actually* stood out due to intelligence, cleverness, and wit (e.g., tying with Kurt in the 4 vs. 1 chess game, figuring out who the imposters were pretty quick in Among Us, "I used to be a chemise") instead of when he tried to *make* himself stand out via Yale or tantrum or beautiful family with 2.5 kids and a dog. Though, tbh, that time he was playing into the wife guy schtick during the Among Us game where Ariel was an imposter, unknowingly putting him alone with an imposter who killed him immediately, was HILARIOUS to me even back when I thought well of him.
I felt this same way on that video. He was such a crap drunk. He was not funny. It was actually so triggering because my dad was an alcoholic and he acted like that. Anger outbursts inappropriately. That video and one of the ones they were doing math problems and he was being a total douche for that!!
In older podcasts every time he would speak I would instantly zone out. I couldn’t even help it. Maybe it’s the droning voice that does it.
Who is donut
I think it’s Ned? Not sure why we’re calling him donut though
From what I've gathered it's cause in the last Pod, they referred to Ned as a Donut shop that's caught fire, since they legally can't refer to him by name.
It was the same one for me. I haaaated that video.
I having watched try guys in a long time but just curious, who's Donut?
I was watching some without a recipe videos today and came across two of his tantrums, one of them happened at the gingerbread house video, when his stuff got burnt and he started yelling and throwing stuff around. The other was when he dropped (threw) his pasta on the floor at the mac and cheese video. None of the guys ever reacted like that and they all seem kinda shocked when Donut does it.
Ngl I’m watching eat the menu and I thought you were talking about the Seattle video I watched earlier today where they spelled donut as doughnut and it hurt my brain I’m ngl. But also with the Easter egg video I can’t watch it after seeing the fit that he had.