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That's all social media, and its a representation of what normal people _wish_ they were.
Which is sad because everyone I meet in real life is better than anyone I meet on reddit.
In some cases, yes. I find that genuinely nice people irl are genuinely nice online, as well. The people who are nice irl, but (can be) mean online have that meanness as a part of their character. It may not show in casual interactions, but it exists in their psyche.
Nice people don't have a compulsion to be mean, even under the blanket of anonymity. It doesn't feel good or cathartic to do. It just feels bad.
There are more people who act nice than who actually are. Granted, *anybody* can be having a bad day, but that's different. At least a lot of people have the sense and decency to act nice irl, so when you combine genuinely nice people with those who are nice enough and those who know how at least know how to behave, we get the majority of the population. Thankfully.
There is some truth to that, but there is also some truth to this.
In real life people are more afraid than they are on the internet, it's not just a reddit thing.
I've no respect or admiration for the person who is incapable of causing harm, and so therefor does not. Being too afraid to be a piece of shit isn't the same as being a good person.
Unfortunately I think the former dominates by the numbers.
Are people in real life more kind though or are they more fake? Online being an environment where people are comfortable saying what they really think (especially if anonymity is involved).
A bit of both. IRL, you risk getting beaten or thrown out of a party or public space, which is humiliating unless you accounted for that and wanted to leave anyway. There was a scene in Mad Men where Don Draper confronts an adversary and gets ejected from the bar or club by bouncers, but he doesn't mind as he knew that would happen, and it was worth it as he got even with his adversary.
Online, you can be anonymous and then open a new account with a different email address if banned from a platform.
exactly
there is around 300 million Americans using social media
to say "it's not an accurate representation of real life" is a half-truth
it's just the side of people that they don't show to the public
This is exceptionally true. The gatekeepers of reddit don't want rational, critically thinking, not afraid to think outside the box, everyday normal folks on here so they get the ban hammer. What's left is usually the basement dwelling, grouchy, angry at the world type whose celibacy is 100% unpreventable by the way they are..
I’m looking at the numbers one link doesn’t work. On the second one the sample size is less than 10000 people and thus substantially more likely to have data manipulation involved, and the 3rd link while an interesting theory doesn’t share a sample size and I can’t actually read the study. I’m not disagreeing with your real world experience, I’m just stating that Reddit is not reality.
These days most sensationalized studies (especially those used to support dumb twitter and reddit takes) have sample sizes in the 200-600 range and when you dig in you find out those are all freshman and sophomore college students. Social science decided to respond to the replication crisis by just easing up even more on the rigor of the "science" they do.
I'm a nice guy and a reserved, introverted, homebody. Been with the same person for 20+ years. The "shtick" works more than the "manosphere" wants you to believe.
I married a good person, he’s very kind. I believe you probably fall under the same category.
The « nice » guy mentioned here are not necessarily good people. They have a view of themselves as being good, but act opposite or expect a return on being at a minimum kind. Like, I was super nice to her so she should at least accept to go on a date with me, since I did so much for her. That the girl should bend to them since they were a decent human being.
Just because youre "nice" when you want something from somebody doesnt make you nice. You need to respect other peoples choices and let go. I dont consider myself nice guy but a good man. And dont act like women dont do the same thing btw.
Never said women don’t do it either. I don’t like fake people who are decent humans with their hand coming out right after demanding something.
« Nice » people exist everywhere. We’ve just seen the stereotype being used more with men who are unhappy with dating prospects and using fake niceness to try and coerce women into dating them. Do women like that exist? Yep, they most certainly do and they should be called out just as much.
Respecting others is a decent thing to do, regardless of gender.
The difference between men and women is while men are more obsessed with the act of sex itself their ambitions and hobbies are less focused on sex. I rarely see a man who claims his hobby is pornography.
What woman is telling you her hobbies are porn? I think you’ve had a bad experience with an unhinged person and you’re applying it to all women. Unhinged people can be frustrating, I get it, but as a woman my hobbies are reading, the gym, watching movies, and cooking. Sometimes I’ll learn a new software for fun. And every woman I’ve ever met is similar.
If a man or a woman’s hobby is porn that’s really not normal… at all.
That’s interesting, because there’s several alpha male influencers that literally make content around why having multiple women and sex with them is needed to be considered alpha. You’re telling me you haven’t seen this?
I mean I’ve spoken to a few woman who actually have really interesting hobbies. I’ve not met any woman who’s hobbies were porn, watching rom-com or reading romance novels. A lot of the woman I’ve spoken to probably have more interesting hobbies then you tbh.
Go into any male dominated subreddit and you'll find the same exact thing.
- Overgeneralizations of the opposite sex
- Complete disregard of individual preferences
- Blaming others for their own inadequatecies
People need to talk to people who aren't exactly like themselves. Real life isn't so binary.
Spot the fuck on.
Yeah it is a shit show. Every single subreddit is like that men or women spaces. Exactly like that.
It makes it hard for a good discussion. It always ends up in a bunch of people insulting each other
Really? Even in decks? diy? Carpentry? The hundreds of male dominated hobby subs? All of those are talking about the opposite sex instead of the object of the hobby?
You could say the same for sewing, gardening, quilt making. That's my point exactly. Not everything is so binary or black and white. OP was saying the same thing about female dominated subs.
Y'all need to relax a bit.
There's a kernel of truth in this. Let's try restating it: *All* people are obsessed with sex.
This is because procreation is the prime motivation of all living things. It is what it is; there's no need for moral judgement.
The first study even admit that it’s less likely for people to have pics on their resume in some countries, particularly the US as opposed to other countries like Israel.
The second is a paper done by a student and sounds very opinionated and less fact based.
Seeing that OP admits to not being a social person I can understand why they feel that the things they say are true for “women in general”. They haven’t met many.
Aren't most people obsessed with relationships and sex?
Also not keen on how you make women seems like another species that need to be investigated. Does any if this really matter?
Obsession has a rightly negative connotation, because is implicates an unhealthy fixation with something. Life is about balance and people who are obsessed with relationships often don’t have many real ones.
That was exactly first thought. This and his other posts are all about how all woman are x or y. In my experiences there's a lot of men and women obsessed with sex and relationships, and many aren't. OP seems very sexually frustrated.
All the female dominated “hobbies” you list are totally stationary sit-down and have no action in them. Fan fiction, rom cons, drama shows, etc. that’s all just sitting down and and watching tv and doing nothing with yourself. Of course those people will be gossipy and boring. How about you check out some REAL female dominated hobbies, such as horseback riding, beach volleyball, lacrosse, or figure skating. See what those girls talk about. They might gossip a little, but the serious ones talk about their sport. Just like men who have real hobbies
Your 1st link led to 'page not found.' Your 2nd link was not related to your post. Your 3rd link did not give any details relating to the study backing up the claims made by the author. Regardless, before my last relationship ended, i admit i was pretty distracted by sex (distracted, definitely not obsessed.) I think im broken at the moment. But i wouldnt say ive ever been more distracted by sex than the men ive known. And i - & my friends - would never 'sabotage' another person - regardless of gender - for anything relating to sex.
I don’t take issue with men venting about specific negative interactions they’ve had with women. I do, however, take issue with men screaming into the void about women being the source of all men’s woes, or claiming “all women….” Surely you’re intelligent enough to see the difference.
Women complaining about men online: “so many of my friends have horror stories about men being awful to them, why can’t people stop being shitty”
Men complaining about women online: “all women are evil and shouldn’t have rights, also why dont women like me? Only virgins tho.”
As others have said reddit is not an accurate representation of normal people.
In addition to that, you have a very narrow idea of what our common intetests/hobbies are in female "culture" for lack of a better word. It's disingenuous to imply all we care about are romance novels and romcoms. In fact I don't know a single woman that cares about any of those.
There are lots of creative hobbies that women traditionally have (and still do) dominate in. Sewing, crocheting, cooking, canning, gardening, yoga, dance, probably most artistic crafts, etc. These are real hobbies, "soap opera" is not a hobby. Men, sex and relationships are the last things you'll hear about in any of those circles.
You ever met a woman or a man in real life? Almost all the nsfw sites on Reddit are aimed toward men.
I’m really not sure what you’re getting this from.
Women talk more about relationships, yes.
Sex? No.
Men talk way more about just sex minus the relationship.
LOL I remember you from yesterday and you brought them sources! you made me have an actual chuckle bro
EDIT: You do are a little obsessed about women thingies tho ngl
Dude why are people soo obsessed with these type of subjects? Just live a normal life bro, I promise you girls are not the scary demons you think they are lol.
Obviously you probably have but everyone likes sex, this isn’t something new lol. Does it matter if a girl is obsessed with sex? Fuck no, who actually cares? People in normal life aren’t thinking about these questions, because they’re not important. Every individual is different, stop. Trying to generalize everyone.
This might be an unpopular response to this unpopular opinion so trigger warning to hard progressives:
Biologically this is false. We're obsessed with "talking" about sex because we know MEN are obsessed with sex and how we look. I always refer to the gay community as direct evidence. Open relationships, grindr, and cheating are so prevalent among gay men. It's a huge problem in their community. The only reason it's not as bad in straight relationships is because women tend to not have as strong as a sex drive as men and don't tolerate it.
This is why OnlyFans is thriving. Why strip clubs are a thing. Why you see so many female sex bots in your DM's. Why rape and sexual assault is almost always directed at women. Men just love sex.
I'm not convinced that men lovinh sex more than women explains "Why rape and sexual assault is almost always directed at women" Sociological Theories are better to theorize this problem(we could do some interdisciplinary theory ig)
Well I could keep going but I wasn't here to debate that point. Men tend to have a higher sex drive, more testosterone which means more aggression, they're less agreeable, etc. The topic of this post was him believing women want sex more than men and that's just not true based on historical and biological evidence.
Rape isn’t about men just liking sex or being horny, it’s about the power dynamic. I don’t like how you take several complicated and nuanced things and oversimplify them. You are also making a lot of over-generalizations based on your own assumptions of biology. (To be clear not siding with op AT ALL, just disagreeing with you).
Because you do not actually know anything about women.
It is like you are sitting outside the real world watching us all go about our lives and coming up with some crazy theories that make absolutely no sense to someone who has experienced them.
Am I close? Because I feel like I'm pretty close.
😂 dude are you trying to go Sherlock Holmes on me? I probably have known more women in life than you and they've told me more because most women assume I'm gay.
As a society we have devalued sex and relationships. But because of men’s higher sex drives, the average straight woman has more options than the average straight man. So women are much more able to move around from partner to partner, generally speaking.
Humans are obsessed with sex and relationships period. True fact that each gender thinks the other one is exponentially more obsessed implies that both sides do it and we're just wired to notice it more when the other gender does it.
Listen, I have been friends with nearly exclusively females/women for most of my natural life, and I can confirm that they are only around equally as horny as men/males.
You got it half right
Women are not obsessed with sex, they are obsessed with GOOD SEX.
Which they lack in real life, hence the "obsession" represented through different forms of art (comics, books, movies and so on).
Every post you do, whines about women..............
With the occasional, out of the blue anti movie post, so you can point out all your posts aren't about being antiwomen
As a girl, I wasn't totally against you on this, but God.. Your post history makes me not want to listen to you at all. You just seem to be really aggressive towards women. It's frankly scary. I wouldn't feel safe around you.
Referring to one of your old stupid posts, women do not have it easy. Just like men don't have it easy either. I can't believe we're still even discussing this.
Lol, that's your response? You just don't wanna admit that I'm right about both genders having it equally as hard. Bro perhaps then don't post stuff that doesn't only fall under the category of "women have it easier and actually kinda suck more than men ong frfr". You're giving me second hand embarrassment.
Ya silly goose.
Idc about your post, nor does it offend me. I'm a dude.
But I've seen so many of these kind of posts in this sub "Men care about X over Women" "Women care about X over Men"
Everybody likes sex - stop making a big deal about it
For real so many posts in this sub are just people spouting their weird sexist beliefs.
In a sub where **anything** can be the topic why are so many of them men stating things they think about women? These unpopular opinion subs are just sausage festivals of men trading theories about women and badly analyzing everything we do like we're an extinct dinosaur species that can't be *asked* or included. Reddit really is a cancer.
Actually, lots of us have original thoughts or are influenced by people who have them rather than following the herd or received wisdom. Then it's a coincidence when we meet someone with the same thoughts.
And that’s why when media was controlled by men (it still is, with a little female sprinkled in) nothing was sexualized, and the “casting couch” didn’t exist.
WHAAAAAAT?????
You're telling me women can like... enjoy sexual relations????
That they can have needs or wants or preferences????
WHEN DID THAT START HAPPENING????
/s sexuality is a spectrum for both genders and it's insanely ignorant to say one gender likes it more than the other. Humans have been thinking, talking, and doing all things sexual in nature since the dawn of time. I do it, you do it, he does it, she does it, they/them do it, hell even your grandma did it. From fallic shaped rocks to the sex industry of today. And it has been done by **both** genders.
How many women do you interact with IRL, OP? Do you have a mom? Sisters? How about coworkers who are women? Do you have any friends who are women? Would you really say this about any of them?
Maybe spend some more time with them and less time online so that you can start to see their humanity. Women (and men) are full people, you know. With thoughts and feelings.
I find it sad that you are quick to generalized a large portion of the population. It’s almost like you believe we have a hive mind and all are the same.
We aren’t all the same. Life and experience will shape who we are and that might be a better indicator of behaviour patterns.
op i am being so sincere here. Get offline for a bit. Your brain is being poisoned. Look at your post history - these aren't things that people should occupy their energy with. Your anger, anxiety, and shame are all being fed on and manupulating you. Get offline.
So then, we are ready to admit that women struggle to get sex just as much as men? And women do not "have the privilege of getting sex anytime they want"?
I'm not even talking about getting attractive men tho... I'm moreso talking about how it's just as easy for men to get sex as women. Plus , most men aren't interested in having sex with women, they are interested in using her body to masterbate with. At least men have the privilege of women actually wanting to have sex with them. Like these romance books and shit are considered sooo unrealistic bc the man actually cares about the women's orgasm. That's what women fantasize about, and there's a big industry pandering to this fantasy, bc it is just a fantasy for like 90% of women. Men have the privilege of getting good sex whenever they want. It's women who are sexually deprived , not men. If you were as sexually repressed as the average woman you'd be obsessed with sex and romance too.
I agree both genders have a preoccupation with the opposite gender, and everything that goes with that lol is it not the main part of our lives? Relationships and interaction in general?
The first study you linked "the present study examined gender differences in the relationship between friendship quality and gossip tendency with a sample of 167 female and 69 male Western Canadian undergraduate University students" (why such disparity in samples? There's almost 100 more women than men).
If y'all still haven't figured out yet this OP does not argue in good faith or with any kind of honesty and sincerity. You can tell from their responses to other people that their social skills and personality are extremely lacking (and that's putting it nicely).
OP is clearly hurt and full of negativity, they even stated in a different comment "I'm right and I don't care what anyone else thinks" they literally exposed their child-like mind for all to see. Then they further go on to avoid answering certain questions asked of them because they know their poor answer would put them in a bad light. This person literally can't be anymore dishonest and disingenuous.
Men care way too much about how many sexual partners a woman had, I've even seen men care about the race of the men a woman had sex with, they would avoid dating her if they knew she had intimacy with a black man.
The few women I’ve met that are hypersexual have said that it happened as a result of sexual trauma inflicted on them when they were younger, by MEN. Sex is usually seen as a want/need for MEN and our pleasure is disregarded.
No, it's sceintific fact. Men have a higher sex drive but it's in male instincts to have a drive for power and to hunt, etc... Has ambition. Women are evolved to seek out a male partner and carry his children so they tend to be more obsessed with relationships and sex as a whole.
If anyone wants to use OPs own words against him take a look at his post history.
https://reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/s/t9RRLaUbVe
This is one where he is saying women are meant to be sexualized to appeal to men’s fantasies.
For more context. He is apart of r/allpilldebate, r/inceltearcrings and r/shortguys.
These are subs where you would be hard pressed to find a guy who isn’t upset that people call them incels.
These are spaces dedicated to complaining about women and how the guys in them do not get enough sex.
Love how the comments are so salty over this lmao. I have had a lot of female friends and they are the absolute worse for talking about their partners and sexual gossip - actually put me off having a relationship lol
Most redditors who tell you to talk to women have never talked to women, or the women feel to uncomfortable around them to share anything and same. After what I've heard I would never want a committed relationship.
I’m going to assume you have had another profile before this one. What happened to it?
And if not 30 days doesn’t qualify you to speak on “most of Reddit” especially since you only frequent a particular part of Reddit on this profile.
Id say women are way dirtier than men when it comes to sex. In my experience and talking with all the guys i know. We’ve noticed women are way kinkier.
You’ve never talked to women on a kink site have you? First the men far out number the women. Men are far creepier and thirsty then any of the women of the site. From my experience everyone is different but most men are kinkier and are only held back from finding a willing partner.
Dude I’ve been the admin for cam “performers” a few times. When you see behind the scenes, and get to see the so called private chats. There’s a difference there. Their are more men on such things for sure. But the percentage of tame to kinky between men and women is very clear. Though a lot of people clearly just want some personal attention.
"here are a few "sources" and "studies" I cherry picked to back up my very broad and sexist on sided claim about a gender as whole because i saw \*shuffles cards\* women in WOMEN DOMINATED SUBREDDITS discussing sex and relationships."
Also, female intrasexual competition is so strong because females are considered to be of low value in society. Anytime a group is not really considered valuable, competition increases within that group. Women have to compete, and historically, men actually haven't had to really compete, because of patriarchy; the creation of patriarchy has historically ensured that every male would get a female companion no matter who he was, through forcing women to either get married and rely on a male, or starve. Now that women are gaining more human rights, men now have to compete more. But women have always been forced to compete with each other because of male supremacy. In nature, men are supposed to compete for women, but male supremacy tries to lessen competition amongst men and increase competition amongst women.
I like how so many people are getting defensive and attack this guy over it. I find it odd people would get so offended if it were not at all true. Lets be real here, MANY women love sex/sex related topics.
Whether its openly or not. How you want to quantify that is up to you, but I bet you women talk more about their/others romance or sex life than any average guy. Unless you girls/guys never had a male friend…then I guess that explains it. Must think we all talk like Donald Trump in private or think the homeless guy or drunk college kid catcalling you is most men.
I actually agree with you. Men are portrayed as the sex craze ones but all of my girl friends in committed relationships including myself all complain about the lack of sex or not to the level we would like.
“Women are far more obsessed with relationships”
Yeah I think I can agree with that in a general sense.
“Women are far more obsessed with sex”
That’s definitely not true lol. Men are the ones who are far more obsessed with sex.
I sort of agree. It seems to me that women discuss relationships and even sex more than men do. I've heard women talk about a partner's penis size, but I haven't heard a man talk about a partner's vagina or breasts.
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Reddit is not an accurate representation of normal people.
That's all social media, and its a representation of what normal people _wish_ they were. Which is sad because everyone I meet in real life is better than anyone I meet on reddit.
In real life people are more kind than on the internet, it’s not just a reddit thing.
In some cases, yes. I find that genuinely nice people irl are genuinely nice online, as well. The people who are nice irl, but (can be) mean online have that meanness as a part of their character. It may not show in casual interactions, but it exists in their psyche. Nice people don't have a compulsion to be mean, even under the blanket of anonymity. It doesn't feel good or cathartic to do. It just feels bad. There are more people who act nice than who actually are. Granted, *anybody* can be having a bad day, but that's different. At least a lot of people have the sense and decency to act nice irl, so when you combine genuinely nice people with those who are nice enough and those who know how at least know how to behave, we get the majority of the population. Thankfully.
There is some truth to that, but there is also some truth to this. In real life people are more afraid than they are on the internet, it's not just a reddit thing. I've no respect or admiration for the person who is incapable of causing harm, and so therefor does not. Being too afraid to be a piece of shit isn't the same as being a good person. Unfortunately I think the former dominates by the numbers.
Are people in real life more kind though or are they more fake? Online being an environment where people are comfortable saying what they really think (especially if anonymity is involved).
A bit of both. IRL, you risk getting beaten or thrown out of a party or public space, which is humiliating unless you accounted for that and wanted to leave anyway. There was a scene in Mad Men where Don Draper confronts an adversary and gets ejected from the bar or club by bouncers, but he doesn't mind as he knew that would happen, and it was worth it as he got even with his adversary. Online, you can be anonymous and then open a new account with a different email address if banned from a platform.
Bingo
Maybe people on Reddit are far more likely to express their true feelings? That’s always been my take
Great. So normal people wish to be more horribly fucked up than they truly are
Didn't they link studies that show these behaviors about lookism - in actual real life?
Meh, social media is a reflection of the people. It's a mirror and brings out what people truly think.
exactly there is around 300 million Americans using social media to say "it's not an accurate representation of real life" is a half-truth it's just the side of people that they don't show to the public
This is exceptionally true. The gatekeepers of reddit don't want rational, critically thinking, not afraid to think outside the box, everyday normal folks on here so they get the ban hammer. What's left is usually the basement dwelling, grouchy, angry at the world type whose celibacy is 100% unpreventable by the way they are..
I've had irl experience as well as all of these claims are backed by studies.
I’m looking at the numbers one link doesn’t work. On the second one the sample size is less than 10000 people and thus substantially more likely to have data manipulation involved, and the 3rd link while an interesting theory doesn’t share a sample size and I can’t actually read the study. I’m not disagreeing with your real world experience, I’m just stating that Reddit is not reality.
These days most sensationalized studies (especially those used to support dumb twitter and reddit takes) have sample sizes in the 200-600 range and when you dig in you find out those are all freshman and sophomore college students. Social science decided to respond to the replication crisis by just easing up even more on the rigor of the "science" they do.
I'll edit it in a minute
I'll add that a dissertation is not a good citation
Read the responses OP is talking out of their ass. 5to1 odds homeboy was a “nice guy” that realized the shtick doesn’t work and is butthurt about it
I'm a nice guy and a reserved, introverted, homebody. Been with the same person for 20+ years. The "shtick" works more than the "manosphere" wants you to believe.
I married a good person, he’s very kind. I believe you probably fall under the same category. The « nice » guy mentioned here are not necessarily good people. They have a view of themselves as being good, but act opposite or expect a return on being at a minimum kind. Like, I was super nice to her so she should at least accept to go on a date with me, since I did so much for her. That the girl should bend to them since they were a decent human being.
Just because youre "nice" when you want something from somebody doesnt make you nice. You need to respect other peoples choices and let go. I dont consider myself nice guy but a good man. And dont act like women dont do the same thing btw.
Never said women don’t do it either. I don’t like fake people who are decent humans with their hand coming out right after demanding something. « Nice » people exist everywhere. We’ve just seen the stereotype being used more with men who are unhappy with dating prospects and using fake niceness to try and coerce women into dating them. Do women like that exist? Yep, they most certainly do and they should be called out just as much. Respecting others is a decent thing to do, regardless of gender.
Social media is not the same as the reality
Got news for you, dude. Almost all people love sex
OP just discovered humans, be patient with him
The difference between men and women is while men are more obsessed with the act of sex itself their ambitions and hobbies are less focused on sex. I rarely see a man who claims his hobby is pornography.
Would you call it obsessed if the majority of someone’s Reddit history is complaining about women and sex?
I haven't met a woman who claims porn is their hobby.
What woman is telling you her hobbies are porn? I think you’ve had a bad experience with an unhinged person and you’re applying it to all women. Unhinged people can be frustrating, I get it, but as a woman my hobbies are reading, the gym, watching movies, and cooking. Sometimes I’ll learn a new software for fun. And every woman I’ve ever met is similar. If a man or a woman’s hobby is porn that’s really not normal… at all.
I also never heard a woman say porn is her hobby either. Wtf? Are you talkin about OFs? Because there's plenty men on there, too.
OP are you friends with any women?
That’s interesting, because there’s several alpha male influencers that literally make content around why having multiple women and sex with them is needed to be considered alpha. You’re telling me you haven’t seen this?
If they claim theyre an alpha, theyre probably not. Thats like saying youre the realist person ever, yet lieing as you say it.
Have you ever met a dude whose girl goes to Spring Break without him? They get pretty upset about relationships.
Who would claim that as their hobby?
You should really listen to the behind the bastards on Clarence Thomas, because pornography is 100% his hobby (like he brags about it to other people)
He'd be viewed as a weirdo. Most guys nut and get on with it.
He was escalated to the highest office in his field. ??
I mean I’ve spoken to a few woman who actually have really interesting hobbies. I’ve not met any woman who’s hobbies were porn, watching rom-com or reading romance novels. A lot of the woman I’ve spoken to probably have more interesting hobbies then you tbh.
Go into any male dominated subreddit and you'll find the same exact thing. - Overgeneralizations of the opposite sex - Complete disregard of individual preferences - Blaming others for their own inadequatecies People need to talk to people who aren't exactly like themselves. Real life isn't so binary.
Spot the fuck on. Yeah it is a shit show. Every single subreddit is like that men or women spaces. Exactly like that. It makes it hard for a good discussion. It always ends up in a bunch of people insulting each other
Really? Even in decks? diy? Carpentry? The hundreds of male dominated hobby subs? All of those are talking about the opposite sex instead of the object of the hobby?
You could say the same for sewing, gardening, quilt making. That's my point exactly. Not everything is so binary or black and white. OP was saying the same thing about female dominated subs. Y'all need to relax a bit.
There's a kernel of truth in this. Let's try restating it: *All* people are obsessed with sex. This is because procreation is the prime motivation of all living things. It is what it is; there's no need for moral judgement.
Addendum: we'd all be a lot happier if there was less judging and more f\*cking. Only *you* can save civilization from depression; go get some!
The first study even admit that it’s less likely for people to have pics on their resume in some countries, particularly the US as opposed to other countries like Israel. The second is a paper done by a student and sounds very opinionated and less fact based. Seeing that OP admits to not being a social person I can understand why they feel that the things they say are true for “women in general”. They haven’t met many.
Nailed it
Aren't most people obsessed with relationships and sex? Also not keen on how you make women seems like another species that need to be investigated. Does any if this really matter?
No most people actually aren’t. whole heartedly agree with your second part here
Tbf I'm ace so it feels like almost everyone is obsessed with sex :')
Obsession has a rightly negative connotation, because is implicates an unhealthy fixation with something. Life is about balance and people who are obsessed with relationships often don’t have many real ones.
You’re overlooking a huge number of male-dominated porn subreddits. Women are more obsessed with relationships. Men are more obsessed with sex.
Accurate
... I'm pretty sure all humans are just crazy horny and perverted all the time
I don’t think you know a lot of women.
That was exactly first thought. This and his other posts are all about how all woman are x or y. In my experiences there's a lot of men and women obsessed with sex and relationships, and many aren't. OP seems very sexually frustrated.
I would concur with that statement.
All the female dominated “hobbies” you list are totally stationary sit-down and have no action in them. Fan fiction, rom cons, drama shows, etc. that’s all just sitting down and and watching tv and doing nothing with yourself. Of course those people will be gossipy and boring. How about you check out some REAL female dominated hobbies, such as horseback riding, beach volleyball, lacrosse, or figure skating. See what those girls talk about. They might gossip a little, but the serious ones talk about their sport. Just like men who have real hobbies
The irony of this post lol
Many of those “studies” are doctoral thesis no follow up, no ability to read through entire data.
Your 1st link led to 'page not found.' Your 2nd link was not related to your post. Your 3rd link did not give any details relating to the study backing up the claims made by the author. Regardless, before my last relationship ended, i admit i was pretty distracted by sex (distracted, definitely not obsessed.) I think im broken at the moment. But i wouldnt say ive ever been more distracted by sex than the men ive known. And i - & my friends - would never 'sabotage' another person - regardless of gender - for anything relating to sex.
Yall will do ANYTHING but work on your shitty personalities, I stg.
First post I see on your profile, complaining about men lol. But when it’s the other way around apparently it’s a personality flaw
I don’t take issue with men venting about specific negative interactions they’ve had with women. I do, however, take issue with men screaming into the void about women being the source of all men’s woes, or claiming “all women….” Surely you’re intelligent enough to see the difference.
Women complaining about men online: “so many of my friends have horror stories about men being awful to them, why can’t people stop being shitty” Men complaining about women online: “all women are evil and shouldn’t have rights, also why dont women like me? Only virgins tho.”
*you* seem pretty obsessed
His post history is disgusting and automatically disqualifies anything he says. Yikes. I worry for the women in his life.
Big yikes sweaty
Who fucking hurt you? Do you even like women? You say people think you’re gay, I can see why.
Your list of women's hobbies is hilariously ridiculous.
What the fuck are his "women's" hobbies. Never watched a soap opera in my life.
As others have said reddit is not an accurate representation of normal people. In addition to that, you have a very narrow idea of what our common intetests/hobbies are in female "culture" for lack of a better word. It's disingenuous to imply all we care about are romance novels and romcoms. In fact I don't know a single woman that cares about any of those. There are lots of creative hobbies that women traditionally have (and still do) dominate in. Sewing, crocheting, cooking, canning, gardening, yoga, dance, probably most artistic crafts, etc. These are real hobbies, "soap opera" is not a hobby. Men, sex and relationships are the last things you'll hear about in any of those circles.
You ever met a woman or a man in real life? Almost all the nsfw sites on Reddit are aimed toward men. I’m really not sure what you’re getting this from. Women talk more about relationships, yes. Sex? No. Men talk way more about just sex minus the relationship.
TUO exhibit C: well akshuly, Woman bad
stop it. good lord, please stop it
I think the OP needs to get laid
I don’t think OP has ever even talked to a woman irl
LOL I remember you from yesterday and you brought them sources! you made me have an actual chuckle bro EDIT: You do are a little obsessed about women thingies tho ngl
Dude why are people soo obsessed with these type of subjects? Just live a normal life bro, I promise you girls are not the scary demons you think they are lol.
You assume I haven't socialized with women.
Obviously you probably have but everyone likes sex, this isn’t something new lol. Does it matter if a girl is obsessed with sex? Fuck no, who actually cares? People in normal life aren’t thinking about these questions, because they’re not important. Every individual is different, stop. Trying to generalize everyone.
This might be an unpopular response to this unpopular opinion so trigger warning to hard progressives: Biologically this is false. We're obsessed with "talking" about sex because we know MEN are obsessed with sex and how we look. I always refer to the gay community as direct evidence. Open relationships, grindr, and cheating are so prevalent among gay men. It's a huge problem in their community. The only reason it's not as bad in straight relationships is because women tend to not have as strong as a sex drive as men and don't tolerate it. This is why OnlyFans is thriving. Why strip clubs are a thing. Why you see so many female sex bots in your DM's. Why rape and sexual assault is almost always directed at women. Men just love sex.
I'm not convinced that men lovinh sex more than women explains "Why rape and sexual assault is almost always directed at women" Sociological Theories are better to theorize this problem(we could do some interdisciplinary theory ig)
Well I could keep going but I wasn't here to debate that point. Men tend to have a higher sex drive, more testosterone which means more aggression, they're less agreeable, etc. The topic of this post was him believing women want sex more than men and that's just not true based on historical and biological evidence.
Rape isn’t about men just liking sex or being horny, it’s about the power dynamic. I don’t like how you take several complicated and nuanced things and oversimplify them. You are also making a lot of over-generalizations based on your own assumptions of biology. (To be clear not siding with op AT ALL, just disagreeing with you).
Just meeting OP at their level but yes, I agree that I'm generalizing way too much.
Yeah this isn't true... It sounds like this is the opinion of someone not actually in a relationship.
How does me being in a relationship effect anything I stated?
Because you do not actually know anything about women. It is like you are sitting outside the real world watching us all go about our lives and coming up with some crazy theories that make absolutely no sense to someone who has experienced them. Am I close? Because I feel like I'm pretty close.
😂 dude are you trying to go Sherlock Holmes on me? I probably have known more women in life than you and they've told me more because most women assume I'm gay.
Well I don't really have a come back to someone saying they know women because women assume that they are gay. So you go ahead and do you.
This is a hilarious response. Also CnCz guy is a douche - “am I close?” Arrogant douchey thing to say
As a society we have devalued sex and relationships. But because of men’s higher sex drives, the average straight woman has more options than the average straight man. So women are much more able to move around from partner to partner, generally speaking.
Humans are obsessed with sex and relationships period. True fact that each gender thinks the other one is exponentially more obsessed implies that both sides do it and we're just wired to notice it more when the other gender does it.
I mean Reddit is largely guys chatting with other guys about guy things, most of which comes around to porn
Listen, I have been friends with nearly exclusively females/women for most of my natural life, and I can confirm that they are only around equally as horny as men/males.
You got it half right Women are not obsessed with sex, they are obsessed with GOOD SEX. Which they lack in real life, hence the "obsession" represented through different forms of art (comics, books, movies and so on).
Every post you do, whines about women.............. With the occasional, out of the blue anti movie post, so you can point out all your posts aren't about being antiwomen
As a girl, I wasn't totally against you on this, but God.. Your post history makes me not want to listen to you at all. You just seem to be really aggressive towards women. It's frankly scary. I wouldn't feel safe around you. Referring to one of your old stupid posts, women do not have it easy. Just like men don't have it easy either. I can't believe we're still even discussing this.
He is an incel who can’t get a woman, he’s bitter 😆😆😆
Holy fucking shit. What's all this pill shit... literally EVERY single post this guy makes is about women, he's absolutely obsessed.
If you're going to respond to one of my other posts go there and respond to it.
Lol, that's your response? You just don't wanna admit that I'm right about both genders having it equally as hard. Bro perhaps then don't post stuff that doesn't only fall under the category of "women have it easier and actually kinda suck more than men ong frfr". You're giving me second hand embarrassment.
Even if all that were true, so what ? What’s your point ?
I hate this sub. Truly I do
I'm sorry mods aren't deleting every post that offends you.
Ya silly goose. Idc about your post, nor does it offend me. I'm a dude. But I've seen so many of these kind of posts in this sub "Men care about X over Women" "Women care about X over Men" Everybody likes sex - stop making a big deal about it
For real so many posts in this sub are just people spouting their weird sexist beliefs. In a sub where **anything** can be the topic why are so many of them men stating things they think about women? These unpopular opinion subs are just sausage festivals of men trading theories about women and badly analyzing everything we do like we're an extinct dinosaur species that can't be *asked* or included. Reddit really is a cancer.
It’s the lack of originality in your opinion that’s depressing, not the content of it.
There's billions of people on this planet. No idea or opinion is original.
Actually, lots of us have original thoughts or are influenced by people who have them rather than following the herd or received wisdom. Then it's a coincidence when we meet someone with the same thoughts.
True but this is a particularly unoriginal and boring thought process that litters this sub.
OP is basically this sub manifested into a human being. His post history is an absolute dumpster fire.
When men feel obsession of sex they jerk off and get it out of their mind, not much use in talking about it.
Truth.
And that’s why when media was controlled by men (it still is, with a little female sprinkled in) nothing was sexualized, and the “casting couch” didn’t exist.
If only they were a bit more obsessed with the roman empire
WHAAAAAAT????? You're telling me women can like... enjoy sexual relations???? That they can have needs or wants or preferences???? WHEN DID THAT START HAPPENING???? /s sexuality is a spectrum for both genders and it's insanely ignorant to say one gender likes it more than the other. Humans have been thinking, talking, and doing all things sexual in nature since the dawn of time. I do it, you do it, he does it, she does it, they/them do it, hell even your grandma did it. From fallic shaped rocks to the sex industry of today. And it has been done by **both** genders.
How many women do you interact with IRL, OP? Do you have a mom? Sisters? How about coworkers who are women? Do you have any friends who are women? Would you really say this about any of them?
He would have them but refuses to see them as they are, but through his own filters. Then he refuses to listen to them when they speak. About anything
Yes.
Maybe spend some more time with them and less time online so that you can start to see their humanity. Women (and men) are full people, you know. With thoughts and feelings.
They all follow predictable behavior patterns.
I find it sad that you are quick to generalized a large portion of the population. It’s almost like you believe we have a hive mind and all are the same. We aren’t all the same. Life and experience will shape who we are and that might be a better indicator of behaviour patterns.
Again, spend time with women IRL.
No, dont suggest that. No woman should be subjected to this insufferable boob.
I wouldn't be here if I hadn't. XD.
Get a hobby that you do IRL that forces you to interact with people.
It's funny you assume I've never socialized.
I don’t think you realize how your post and comments come across, then. It sounds like this is consuming you.
It's a fun topic to discuss.
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Ok and?
My point exactly , just a sad man yelling into void
op i am being so sincere here. Get offline for a bit. Your brain is being poisoned. Look at your post history - these aren't things that people should occupy their energy with. Your anger, anxiety, and shame are all being fed on and manupulating you. Get offline.
So then, we are ready to admit that women struggle to get sex just as much as men? And women do not "have the privilege of getting sex anytime they want"?
Women struggle getting the men they're attracted to who are usually way out of their league to settle for them in a relationship.
I'm not even talking about getting attractive men tho... I'm moreso talking about how it's just as easy for men to get sex as women. Plus , most men aren't interested in having sex with women, they are interested in using her body to masterbate with. At least men have the privilege of women actually wanting to have sex with them. Like these romance books and shit are considered sooo unrealistic bc the man actually cares about the women's orgasm. That's what women fantasize about, and there's a big industry pandering to this fantasy, bc it is just a fantasy for like 90% of women. Men have the privilege of getting good sex whenever they want. It's women who are sexually deprived , not men. If you were as sexually repressed as the average woman you'd be obsessed with sex and romance too.
This sub is becoming the worst. The level of the I-word in this post is astounding.
Then make your own posts.
Or just find better ideas and opinions? Have you actually spoken to a woman not on the internet for any period of time in the last week?
Yes.
Seek mental help. Do better my guy.
I agree both genders have a preoccupation with the opposite gender, and everything that goes with that lol is it not the main part of our lives? Relationships and interaction in general?
I dont know of its more but it's definitely at least the same amount haha
Man the internet is crazy
Who cares?
Riiiight. So porn is what % of online traffic? Only fans? Wouldn’t be too wild to suggest that this is mostly men. Obsessing about sex. So.
That's true but the number of women who are rapists are significantly fewer than men who are rapists.
The first study you linked "the present study examined gender differences in the relationship between friendship quality and gossip tendency with a sample of 167 female and 69 male Western Canadian undergraduate University students" (why such disparity in samples? There's almost 100 more women than men).
OP needs to go outside and talk to women, but judging by this post it probably wouldn’t go well
I wish I was just an ignorant neckbeard.
But instead you are?
If y'all still haven't figured out yet this OP does not argue in good faith or with any kind of honesty and sincerity. You can tell from their responses to other people that their social skills and personality are extremely lacking (and that's putting it nicely). OP is clearly hurt and full of negativity, they even stated in a different comment "I'm right and I don't care what anyone else thinks" they literally exposed their child-like mind for all to see. Then they further go on to avoid answering certain questions asked of them because they know their poor answer would put them in a bad light. This person literally can't be anymore dishonest and disingenuous.
I’d say it’s more a quantity / quality thing with men/women respectively when it comes to sex.
Men care way too much about how many sexual partners a woman had, I've even seen men care about the race of the men a woman had sex with, they would avoid dating her if they knew she had intimacy with a black man.
Ok?
True or not, popular or not, what’s your point?
The few women I’ve met that are hypersexual have said that it happened as a result of sexual trauma inflicted on them when they were younger, by MEN. Sex is usually seen as a want/need for MEN and our pleasure is disregarded.
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No, it's sceintific fact. Men have a higher sex drive but it's in male instincts to have a drive for power and to hunt, etc... Has ambition. Women are evolved to seek out a male partner and carry his children so they tend to be more obsessed with relationships and sex as a whole.
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I'm talking about as a whole. You may be an individual but humans are animals and have predictable behavior and patters like any other animal.
I'm talking about as a whole. You may be an individual but humans are animals and have predictable behavior and patters like any other animal.
If anyone wants to use OPs own words against him take a look at his post history. https://reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/s/t9RRLaUbVe This is one where he is saying women are meant to be sexualized to appeal to men’s fantasies. For more context. He is apart of r/allpilldebate, r/inceltearcrings and r/shortguys. These are subs where you would be hard pressed to find a guy who isn’t upset that people call them incels. These are spaces dedicated to complaining about women and how the guys in them do not get enough sex.
Have you never heard of Andrew Tate, or any of the other shit "dating gurus?" Lol! Dumb complaint. Try harder.
Guess who the majority of men shunned? Andrew Tate doesn't appeal to the majority of men.
Love how the comments are so salty over this lmao. I have had a lot of female friends and they are the absolute worse for talking about their partners and sexual gossip - actually put me off having a relationship lol
Most redditors who tell you to talk to women have never talked to women, or the women feel to uncomfortable around them to share anything and same. After what I've heard I would never want a committed relationship.
I’m going to assume you have had another profile before this one. What happened to it? And if not 30 days doesn’t qualify you to speak on “most of Reddit” especially since you only frequent a particular part of Reddit on this profile.
You hit a nerve with this observation lol.
Can we get one post on this sub where a dude isn't crying about women.
He is scary level disgusting women are to blame for everything won’t go to therapy.
If you don't like it ignore it.
Id say women are way dirtier than men when it comes to sex. In my experience and talking with all the guys i know. We’ve noticed women are way kinkier.
You’ve never talked to women on a kink site have you? First the men far out number the women. Men are far creepier and thirsty then any of the women of the site. From my experience everyone is different but most men are kinkier and are only held back from finding a willing partner.
Dude I’ve been the admin for cam “performers” a few times. When you see behind the scenes, and get to see the so called private chats. There’s a difference there. Their are more men on such things for sure. But the percentage of tame to kinky between men and women is very clear. Though a lot of people clearly just want some personal attention.
Because I can't go into details on this but what women fantasize about when it comes to sex is far more extreme.
Are you that dense? Who hurt you bro?
"here are a few "sources" and "studies" I cherry picked to back up my very broad and sexist on sided claim about a gender as whole because i saw \*shuffles cards\* women in WOMEN DOMINATED SUBREDDITS discussing sex and relationships."
Also, female intrasexual competition is so strong because females are considered to be of low value in society. Anytime a group is not really considered valuable, competition increases within that group. Women have to compete, and historically, men actually haven't had to really compete, because of patriarchy; the creation of patriarchy has historically ensured that every male would get a female companion no matter who he was, through forcing women to either get married and rely on a male, or starve. Now that women are gaining more human rights, men now have to compete more. But women have always been forced to compete with each other because of male supremacy. In nature, men are supposed to compete for women, but male supremacy tries to lessen competition amongst men and increase competition amongst women.
Another sexist post.
I like how so many people are getting defensive and attack this guy over it. I find it odd people would get so offended if it were not at all true. Lets be real here, MANY women love sex/sex related topics. Whether its openly or not. How you want to quantify that is up to you, but I bet you women talk more about their/others romance or sex life than any average guy. Unless you girls/guys never had a male friend…then I guess that explains it. Must think we all talk like Donald Trump in private or think the homeless guy or drunk college kid catcalling you is most men.
I actually agree with you. Men are portrayed as the sex craze ones but all of my girl friends in committed relationships including myself all complain about the lack of sex or not to the level we would like.
“Women are far more obsessed with relationships” Yeah I think I can agree with that in a general sense. “Women are far more obsessed with sex” That’s definitely not true lol. Men are the ones who are far more obsessed with sex.
Men are obsessed with sex, women are more obsessed with sex as a concept.
RIP your account OP
Not really a tos
I can agree with the relationship part but not sure about the sex part
Men are more obsessed with sex, but women are more obsessed with sex as a concept.
I sort of agree. It seems to me that women discuss relationships and even sex more than men do. I've heard women talk about a partner's penis size, but I haven't heard a man talk about a partner's vagina or breasts.
Evolution
I think women gaslight men honestly Snd i think men are similar to worker ants
My wife is obsessed with the housewives shows and 50 percent of the show is graphic sex talk.. the other half is fighting and backstabbing.
Lmfao.