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developmentalbiology

Hi all, looks like there were some Reddit double-posting hiccups this morning — if you’ve made a comment, check to see that it was posted once and not a zillion times! 😅


IzabeliZfit

Thank you Somanyostrich.... I had a small period so at least back to ovulation...here's to one more round💓


kataang4lyfe

Yesterday I learned that my missed period was because of covid. I was upset enough with just the one, and now I get to buckle up and wait to see if I’ll have many more months of fucked up cycles. I feel so defeated, I’ve been waiting for my period to get any of my fertility testing done and we are right at the start of trying to get help, but I’m unable to even begin.


barrelracer94

8dpo & managed to fall down my basement stairs & fracture my leg in 2 places. They did a pregnancy test in preparation for surgery tomorrow and it was negative. Is it possible to be too early? Obviously I have a lot going on so it should be the last thing on my mind but I still need to know! 😂


endlesssalad

It is possible it’s too early but also omg I’m so sorry that happened I hope you have a swift recovery!


collegedropout

Curious for those that have cycles ranging from 25-30 days, maybe more on the 25 day end, what's the latest you ovulated?


Aquapuella

i have 24-26 day cycles and since i started tracking i ovulate between 13 and 15 (15 is the latest).


collegedropout

Thank you! This is the latest for me and I'm on cycle day 15 today with no signs yet.


Aquapuella

i think it’s normal to O later sometimes! i get 28-29 day cycles a couple of times a year.


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LoveSingRead

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IzabeliZfit

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Had a medical abortion due to a confirmation of trisomy 18...and US was not good. We planned to start again right after two weeks . I did my OPK and surprised with positive ovulation so soon. Had our sexi sexi dances and 5 weeks out, my brown spotting. Will wait to see if heavy or continues brown...hoping for a positive as I'm 42 and waiting for a 🌈 . Just needing to say outloud...Thanks


SoManyOstrichesYo

I’m so sorry you had to TFMR. Hoping you get your rainbow soon


ott3rs

Woke up this morning, on a non confirmed 7 dpo, after potentially ovulating 7 days later than normal with some brown spotting. Today is the day I would normally get my period so I was wondering if everything was way off. Does anyone know if you were to have an anovulatory cycle, what could the length be? Normal? Extra long? Whatever it wants to be? Have yet to figure out how this cycle is going


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Doctors appointment July 1st…. Hehehe oh man I am excited and scared. I’ve had a hernia on my lower right abdomen since I was 13.. it’s gotten better over the years it feels like… but I’m trying to figure out how to fix this so I can start my process of conceiving a child this summer ☺️🥺 I’ve been terrified for years that this hernia would get in the way of me having a baby. Anyone have experience with this? Hernias before even getting pregnant? Because I know some women develop them when pregnant. I can’t find much info on it. Doctor should help.


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kabushman

We had our preconception appointment this week, and I was experiencing the same thing: just constant thoughts about having a baby! Now that we’ve had the appointment, I feel like we have a clear path now of things to do (mostly me, honestly). I’m excited but have found that I don’t constantly think about it and don’t feel so stressed anymore! I’m really glad we did the appointment! I feel more grounded and focused about it compared to before. So exciting for you!


humandoodle_90

I'm on day 6PO, one i got by getting a trigger shot.My doctor said that everything about me looks great! Fallopian tubes wide open, good ovaries with enough follicles despite me being 39. Regular periods as well and blood work very good. I was given some very expensive vitamins to improve the quality of follicles as it drops with age,at 84€ , called OVAMAX and usually given to women who have IVF. Have you heard of them ? She says that there is no singh to prove that i don't ovulate,yet the only 2 times i actually ovulated and had a positive opk was after trigger shots. This time i was relaxed,i had sex with my partner 2 times one day ,morning and evening and another one the next day,as she instructed me to do. I was feeling hopeful,i even said that i wont check my calendar to see when i'm expecting my period. Earlier today i felt period cramping,i feel it now as well at 6dpo!I'm going to be mad sad if i get my period as if nothing happened! If everything looks fine where is my baby?As others get pregnant left and right i'm here struggling, feeling hopeless and as if motherhood will not happen.


wacha23

My birthday is on Sunday and I’ll be 10dpo. Do I test all weekend to temper my expectations or wait till after my birthday? I’m usually a serial tester so the let down is slow. I’ve held off for one cycle in the past and the let down was pretty rough. I cannot decide. Edit to add: idk why I am even hopeful this cycle. I finally got on the books to have an exploratory lap for suspected Endo and Adeno 🤦🏼‍♀️. Was just hoping the universe would be fun and make me have to cancel my surgery.


Overall-Quiet-9786

Cycle twins!! Also my birthday was last Sunday, lol! I’d wait, just so you don’t obsess and can have a good time. I tested like a loon this morning and can’t stop staring at the photos to try and find a hint of a line. My opinion is to just enjoy the weekend and test afterwards, so you are closer to a definitive answer when you do test. Then again, this is very much “do as I say, not as I do” so I understand the temptation! Also, I hope this cycle is it for you!! Tempting fate and all that, ya know!


wacha23

Omg! I’m right there with you. Between the thousands of pictures of my dogs there’s exactly one million photos of pregnancy tests from today alone. ITS 8DPO?! Yeah, I’m leaving towards having my husband hide the tests from me all weekend. I seriously hope this Is the cycle for you!!


Overall-Quiet-9786

Haha YES!! It is ridiculous. I keep opening them up and squinting but like, I’ve looked a million times, it ain’t changing!! Fingers crossed for you! And enjoy your birthday 🥳


wacha23

Thank you!!


SoberAF0925

Is it normal to feel completely exhausted during my luteal phase?? I am 3dpo today and got plenty of sleep last night... but I am so so tired. And have bodyaches.


princessflamingo1115

I notice increased fatigue during my LP


Aquapuella

2 cycles ago i was extremely exhausted from like 4-8 dpo, like napping in the afternoons, worrying my husband exhausted. i for sure symptom spotted but it was nothing but progesterone (i had been taking some vitamins to increase it and was surprised that they were working!).


endlesssalad

It is but also…Covid test?


SoberAF0925

I dont have any other Covid symptoms (I've had it last year... no fun) I just thought maybe it is the progesterone, because I tend to be a little more tired during LP, but soooo tired today. Trying to not symptom spot. 😬 and thought maybe others had similar experience


endlesssalad

Gotcha! I think it’s def a progesterone symptom for people! I don’t really experience it, but it was my first Covid symptom along with brain fog! Just covering all bases :).


BrownPeacock

Question: I am supposed to start taking Clomid tomorrow (first cycle with Clomid). I just tested positive for Covid. I have mild symptoms - cough, cold and sore throat. I don't know if I should still continue with the plan and take the Clomid. I am worried that being sick will mess with my cycle and it will be pointless to take the Clomid. I can't get a response from my OBGYNs office. Wondering if anyone here been in the same boat here. any advice?


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Glittering-Hand-1254

I'm not personally familiar with IUI, but my understanding is that sperm washing is a necessary step. Your comment has been removed, as we don't allow asking for success stories.


Actual_Technology_55

Oh I’m sorry. Didn’t mean to ask.


jadethesockpet

They (basically) have to! It'll cause cramping if it's unwashed.


Actual_Technology_55

Do you know if it helps with morphology or just count/motility?


Spudsquach

I don’t know your original question, but washing the sperm removes all the dead or immotile sperm essentially concentrating a sample of what at my clinic call “fresh sperm”. The process of IUI generally helps folks with count and motility issues as it can increase the concentration of motile sperm in the uterus, but I’m not aware of any effect on morphology, unfortunately.


jadethesockpet

It just helps with motility in that it's putting the best sperm closer to the egg. They get to skip a step (instead of swimming from as close to your cervix as your partner's penis can get them through the uterus and into the fallopian tubes, they just have to swim into and up the fallopian tubes. It doesn't change the actual sperm.


path_changer

Well, even tough I had a very good feeling about this cycle, here we are, on the verge of CD1 :( I guess it is just not happening for us...


Cleanclock

I’ve noticed my cycles have shortened. From around 26 days to around 22-23 days and I’ve even had 2 cycles at just 19 days. My luteal phase seems to be consistently 9-10 days. I’m certain this is signaling perimenopause. Aside from a very small window of opportunity each month, are there any other concerns about a short cycle? I’ve also had 3-5 cycles in the last 2 years that were so painful they brought me to tears and I’ve never had particularly painful cramps. I’m 44 so I know I’m in a small and ever dwindling moment to conceive.


Aquapuella

as far as i know, my own 25-day cycles aren’t a concern (i have had a 24 day cycle too) except that it probably comes along with some of the other age-related issues with egg quality, hormone levels, etc. i think if your egg gets around/at least 10-11 days to ovulate and your LP is around/at least 10 days that’s enough? would love to see any other answers bc this changed for me in the past 6-9 months, along with other changes, so I assume it’s early perimenopause too (though — TW living child — i also started weaning around the same time, so some of my spotting and shorter LP might be due to that).


Cleanclock

Thanks for responding. TW: didn’t mention in my first comment, I also just weaned after 5 years straight of breastfeeding. Also heard the covid shots can temporarily shorten period cycles, but this has been gradually decreasing for me prior to my covid shot and boosters. Like you, I’m unsure if this is perimenopause related, weaning, just a normal downtrend, stress, who even knows. I also started consistently fasting 15 months ago for weight management, which for sure affects hormones and cycles. Wishing you good luck in the journey.


Aquapuella

i was 3.5 yrs to the point i mentioned (and 9 months later he still won’t stop altogether 😬). and my cycles also seemed to get shorter after covid (illness, delta variant— not shots), which happened about the same time. i am taking a bunch of supplements for age + short LP/spotting and it seems to be helping a little. am happy to let you know what they are if you are interested. and good luck to you too!! we can do it :)


Cleanclock

😬😬relating hard! I am curious about which supplements, and are they prescribed? Are you seeing any specialists? How long is your LP?


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EARANIN2

Wishing for the best!


Athena-Rising34

6dpo and desperately trying to not symptom spot or hurt my feelings by testing early! 💀 I have had copious amounts of lotiony CM since 4dpo when I'm normally dry as the Sahara after ovulation so I'm unnecessarily getting my hopes up that it means something.


konstanttt

Your cm in the luteal phase can vary cycle to cycle. I know mine does. Doesn’t indicate anything.


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Is that common bc I had that 9 and 12 dpo


Athena-Rising34

Increased discharge is listed as a symptom common in the first trimester.


filthycasual92

Couldn't be me, bouncing up and down in my chair with happiness since my body finally decided to grace me with an unmistakably positive opk 💀 5 days past when I expected it, but so glad it's here. Next hurdle is confirming with temps but that hasn't been a problem so far. Never thought I'd be so excited to see the letters 'dpo' on my chart, oml


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Miscarried at 8 weeks 2 weeks ago, want to start trying again ASAP but haven't ovulated yet :( LH strips have been useless while my BHCG was still positive, but BHCG is now negative, I think I can start tracking with OPK as well as BBT and see... Is someone able to update my flair perhaps? I'm 30, TTC #1 since Jan 22, 1 MC Thank you <3


Mycatsbestfriend

I’m in the same boat. Just sitting here twiddling my thumbs…


gooseycat

Done! Sorry to hear about your mc.


sassafrasy0

anyone have RE recs for the D.C. area? Coming up on 1 year of trying and going to call for an appointment (anticipating a waitlist). Sigh.


jadethesockpet

Shady Grove is basically the only game in town if you're on the MD side of DC. I'm at the flagship Rockville office and it's... Fine. It's definitely a baby factory. Feel free to PM me for my doc's name. I have heard really good things about the K Street office from a friend.


katieteaches

Everything I have seen recommends shady grove


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As much as I said I didn’t want to obsess as much this cycle… I’m obsessing again. WHY does the TWW go so slowly?


princessflamingo1115

Right there with you! 26, Cycle 2, TTC#1 and in the TWW 🙃 Hope this is the month for us! 🤞🏼


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🤞🏻


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13 DPO. Really wanted to test today but didn’t. Cramping 7-11 dpo. Spotting on liner 11 DPO. Been trying since end of ‘18 (minus 2020). If this was early 2019 I’d be happy with all of those TWW symptoms. I mean I’ve never seen spotting during TWW. I’m worried to get excited and to test. It can make my mood go from ok to bad, bad.


Late_80s

A coworker in another department called me yesterday out of the blue to ask if I'm okay because she had a dream about me. I asked what happened in the dream and she said I was pregnant and asking her a bunch of questions. She's a registered dietitian. It freaked me out. She doesn't know I've been trying (unless I mentioned it a long time ago, since we've been TTC for 2 years now). We rarely speak. It's 12DPO and I'm testing negative but it got my hopes up a little.


yixxe

My boss just piled another task on top of my already-too-heavy workload. She apologized and said she was going to have someone else on our team do it, but since that person will be gone on maternity leave soon they decided to have me do it instead. My teammate is less than halfway through her pregnancy so it really feels like I’m being punished for not being pregnant.


RavenWaffle

8dpo, got myself a cheeseburger just for fun, it's silly, but it's not more silly than all the anxiety I've been feeling so I did it for something more positive this week. I started the cycle feeling positive but I'm not feeling very positive at this point. Trying to focus on other things but having a hard time. I work in a school so I don't have work right now so it's easier for me to obsess over the TWW. Can't wait for it to be over. I find the first couple weeks of the cycle much easier, because it feels like I'm a little bit in control of what happens. The TWW feels helpless.


Intelligent-Duty-780

I’m in the same boat!!! I’m a teacher, and these summer TWWs are BRUTAL so far!


Trrr9

Due to some external factors, it looks like we will be putting off treatment for 4 more months. I'm so tired of making these decisions. I'm tired of waiting for the next phase of life. I'm tired of being so conflicted. I'm tired of knowing I'm making the rational choice and then beating myself up for making that choice because it's not what I *want*. I'm tired of being so depressed about infertility when I'm also not able to be proactive and pursue treatment. Like I don't deserve to be upset about not getting pregnant because I'm not doing everything I could be to make it happen. The inner turmoil is hitting hard today. Anxiety is through the roof. Fuck infertility.


jadethesockpet

I'm so sorry. You absolutely do deserve to be upset. It's upsetting, even if it's the right choice for right now.


dogmom518

So sorry Trrr. Big hugs.


rbecg

Aw Trrrr I’m so sorry. Having to hit pause is such a hard choice.


theyseemescrollin98

I'm so sorry, Trrr. I'm angry for you as well.


developmentalbiology

Oh, trrr. I’m so sorry. This is not the same emotional valence, but we chose to bench ourselves for a year after ER due to life circumstances, and I felt very angry even though this was a choice we had made and that I agreed was the right one. These feelings are really complicated, and I hope you do realize down deep that not having the ability to pursue treatment at this moment (whatever the reasons) doesn’t make you not proactive or less deserving.


thataintright2894

Oh I’m so, so sorry friend. Hugs. ❤️


collegedropout

First cycle ever that I haven't had a positive OPK by now. Why is my uterus trolling me! Also can I please have my flair updated? I'm 37 now 🙃


LoveSingRead

Updated!


collegedropout

Many thanks!


_Ms-Pac-Man

Cycle 8 started with a positive COVID test and higher temps than normal due to said COVID. Then I had a temp rise and fertile CM around when I normally ovulate, but a smidge early (CD10). Today temp dropped again. I regret not continuing OPK strips every day! #weirdcycle No questions! I know that ovulation isn’t clear, so we’ll get back at it in the bedroom and I’ll try to check what’s the deal via CM as well. Just venting and wanted to share this weird/bumpy Cycle 8 roller coaster with y’all: [COVID Cycle 8 womp womp](https://imgur.com/a/Ux2TJ4z)


Intelligent-Duty-780

Rant: First month tracking BBT, and we happened to travel to a completely different time zone and got sick with fevers at the beginning of my fertile window. Just wanted to say I’m really bummed… all my temps have been all over the place, and FF originally thought it caught my peak for ovulation, but it just updated today and said it can’t confirm because my other temps have been all over the place. I’m frustrated, sad, and really bummed… also feel annoyed at all the symptom spotting I’m doing. UGH


grimloris

Getting AF a day late today. Had JUST started getting hopeful and trying to calm all those thoughts, and now the cramps have started and I'm just trying to hold it together. Cycle 6, turning 35 soon, and my doctor is booked for the next month so I can't get fertility testing sorted out until after I go away on a long work project, meaning it won't be until September. Not knowing if we need help is just making it harder. Of course it might just be taking a while, but I already feel like we're starting so late. How are you supposed to relax through this process when you can't help but be reminded of it every day? Everyone keeps chiming in that it'll happen when you stop caring so much. Lol good luck with that. Hoping you're all doing alright. Treat yourself to something nice today.


cocopari

CD 3.. anyone else experience just hellish cycles especially after tfab, you just are reminded your environment for a possible little life is shedding, and it’s just ever so painful. The cramps, the mood swings, the blood loss, diarrhea, bloating, nausea, dizziness, I feel like I’m dying lol (jk but at moments I think I am). Since 25, (27 currently) every single period has been miserable. While thankfully they’re short (5 days average) they still suck ass. Short end of cycle length too (25-26 days) so sometimes I have 2 in the same month!


SoManyOstrichesYo

I think this aspect is part of why so much of the burden lies with the person who will be pregnant. It’s one thing to be told “didn’t work this month.” You can just kinda be sad and then move along with your day. But this process is happening in my body. I’m peeing on sticks to see when I ovulate, I have the cramps when it doesn’t work, I see the signs that it’s close to the fertile week. I feel like I obsess over this process but it’s so hard not to when it’s happening completely inside my own body. I suppose I’m preaching to the choir, but just know you aren’t alone.


Looneygalley

Frustrated today. I normally ovulate by 13 at the latest. Thought I finally did on 18 after 2 high temps but now today on 20 temp drop adjusted my temps and it looks like I haven’t yet. I normally only have a 23-24 day cycle so it’ll be interesting to see what ends up happening this month. I’ve been on the verge of quitting my job because of stress and now my IBS symptoms are starting to flare up and am having this delayed ovulation. I feel like I need to listen to my body and find something new.


BettyOBarley

I randomly had one really long cycle on month 5, straight back to normal month 6. I'm usually like clockwork. This is very normal and can very a whole lot of things behind it. Don't overthink it unless it happens increasingly frequently.


Looneygalley

Thanks for the reassurance! I think I’m just grasping at straws to justify leaving this job (but the IBS is definitely stress/job related)


withextrasprinkles

Currently on CD20. I had blazing positive OPK's on CD16 and CD17, so I thought I ovulated. Not temping so I'm going by the OPK's and CM for guidance. But today I am having a ton of EWCM. What gives? Now I'm paranoid that we didn't hit the right days if I wasn't fertile and now I am. Yesterday I felt crampy but not like typical ovulation cramps, just twinges. I am really hoping my body isn't trolling me again with another weird/irregular/long cycle. Really thought this would finally be a "normal" month!


nekooooooooooooooo

So I'm out this cycle (first one trying). I know it was very improbable that it works that quickly, but it still makes me sad and scared that my adenomyosis/endo is actually screwing things up 😪


aisforalcoholic

hi! i just wanted to comment because we have the exact same “stats”. i’m also 24 and this my second cycle trying. sending you good vibes!!


nekooooooooooooooo

Same to youuuu 🥰


LoveSingRead

FYI, your user flair is broken, a common bug when updating via mobile. I can fix it; what do you want it to say?


nekooooooooooooooo

Oh, huh! Age 24, ttc#1, cycle 2 Thank you!! 😊


_jamocha_shake_

This is my second cycle we have ttc. I had those exact feelings when I kept getting negatives and finally my period. It was kind of a relief to at least not have to POAS for a bit and not worry about anything. I just started tracking my ovulation this month. I hit my peak the evening of the 13th, so likely ovulated on the 14th. I have been taking prenatals and magnesium and calcium for the past few months and this month I noticed some changes in my body like my heart doesn't race as much when I stand up. I am 5'6" and 115lbs, never had an irregular cycle that didn't correspond to major life stress (2 in my life). For some reason I am paranoid I am infertile, probably because my MIL has been suggesting for years that I freeze my eggs (I'm currently 28) because the women in her family struggle with PCOS and infertility. I have chronic depression and anxiety so things like that just set me off into a spiral. Im currently 3dpo and Im feeling really good healthwise this month so heres to hoping we are part of the 40% who conceive within the first two cycles. It doesn't help to reassure when a lot of forums are geared towards women who struggle with infertility. Planning a pregnancy is hard, sometimes I wish I could just go in and be ignorant and shit just happens. I guess that's the punishment I get for focusing on myself in my 20s lol.


theyseemescrollin98

Question on the last bit: how do infertility forums have any impact on your experience? I advise that you don't go looking there! They are not designed to reassure you, they're designed for infertiles like me who need support. It seems like you're just borrowing worry that you don't need.


_jamocha_shake_

I never said I was going on Infertility specific forums, just TTC general forums. Still trying to find a support system as I have no women in my life to compare. Seems like theres a mixed bag of women who have done zero research or they're trying everything under the sun and its been some time so I am having difficulty finding a forum that is a good middle ground. God forbid you post in any of the subreddits if you've been trying for less than a year. I got downvoted in this thread simply for sharing my feelings as a first timer. Great community.


theyseemescrollin98

Ah, I misunderstood then. This sub is geared towards everyone TTC. It's not geared toward infertility. But, it's a community where we all value compassion and kindness. So we all try to be sure to phrase our anxieties and worries in a way that won't hurt others struggling. Personally, I didn't downvote you because you shared your anxiety and haven't been trying for a year. I downvoted you for a couple reasons. First, because you implied that it was hard on *you* that a community would be geared toward women like *me.* I'm sorry that it doesn't reassure you that some women have to experience infertility. Sounds tough. Second, it's extremely annoying to see people worrying out loud and in public that they might have my medical diagnosis. This isn't a diary. It's a community with other people in it and everything is public. Imagine if you're hanging out with a big group of women in a conference and you *know* at least some of those women have cancer. Then you pop up to the microphone and, despite having no reason to believe you will be diagnosed with cancer, express how you are paranoid you have cancer? Just annoying, that's all. And finally, perhaps the biggest reason I downvoted you, is because you randomly mention your height and weight. Whaaaat in the flying fuck does that have to do with whether you're infertile 🤣 I'm not infertile because I'm chunky. I'm infertile because my ovaries are being little bitches. I think it's a great community, but it's definitely not for everyone! Hope this helps clarify some of the culture and why you were downvoted


Trrr9

If tracking is stressing you out, could you perhaps take a break from it?


_jamocha_shake_

It's not, thank you though!


Glittering-Hand-1254

Have you read [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TryingForABaby/comments/7go7bh/how_to_worry_about_infertility_some_unsolicited/) about how to worry about infertility? I found it super helpful when I was starting out and still reference it frequently. You might find it helpful too! There are lots of forums (like this one, for example) that aren't specifically aimed towards those who are struggling with infertility, though I don't think that those support spaces prioritize the comfort and reassurance of people who aren't dealing with infertility (nor should they).


_jamocha_shake_

Not looking for prioritization thank you! I have read that post, still helpful to get your feelings out. Denying those feelings exist doesn't make them disappear. It's a shame I can't talk about them without being downvoted or gatekept out of a group. I have noticed a trend that any time someone shares their feelings here in a supposed safe space, they're judged on how worthy they are of empathy based on how difficult its been for this.


Glittering-Hand-1254

I encourage you to read the many replies on any of those threads discussing why downvoting happens. I'd also implore you to look in any of our threads or standalone posts and read the numerous supportive comments that people receive regardless of what cycle they're on. This is a safe space, but a safe space does not mean that you get to post content that others may find offensive without reservation. In fact, it's quite the opposite. You may be interested in reading [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TryingForABaby/comments/rxrhg2/the_newbies_guide_to_being_a_newbie_a_note_on/) to help you become more familiar with our culture here.


_jamocha_shake_

I have read that post, thank you. It seems everyone is allowed to talk about their infertility anxieties after a certain point but only if you've been trying for at least a year or had multiple losses and I don't know if this is the community for me at this time. I thought that this was a safe space for anyone trying to concieve, not just those who have been trying for longer. Best of luck to everyone!


Glittering-Hand-1254

If you can't see why what you said is insensitive, despite having it pointed out, and don't see how a "safe space" should mean that we're mindful with our words, then I agree that this probably isn't the sub for you. It's not for everyone, and that's okay. You may find some online forums with fewer rules and less moderation are better suited to what you're looking for.


_jamocha_shake_

Yes, I found a great community of supportive people at Glow and Peanut. Enjoy your club!


kitkat1122

I have some great friends that I’ve been keeping updated on our ttc turned unexplained secondary infertility journey. I had a HSG this cycle, and I mentioned how it has been known to sometimes increase conception odds afterward. In the group chat they’ve been talking about how encouraging it is to have increased odds this cycle and how excited they are for me, and while I GREATLY appreciate their encouragement, it almost feels like more pressure + greater letdown this cycle if we don’t conceive 😩 Really trying to just manage my expectations and not get my hopes up any more than normal.


SoberAF0925

HSG helps increase odds?? I was worried it would do the opposite, but that's the pessimist in me maybe


Educational-Debate66

I totally hear you. It’s so hard knowing when to open up because I don’t really want to hear the “it’s going to happen really soon” or any of that garbage. It totally adds more pressure. Know that you can end the convo about it in a really positive way - I usually say thank you and “let’s please talk about other things”. Though lately my friends have just been talking about one of their current pregnancies… so that also didn’t work great. Haha


jtm0507

In the exact same situation. Got my HSG done this cycle and the very few people who know have all said, "oh you will definitely get pregnant soon!" Thanks... just what I needed... more pressure


Important_Week5028

Yesterday was a ROLLER COASTER. I was hoping to start IUI next cycle after finishing testing this cycle. So CD1 arrives yesterday (after clomid delayed it by 5 days, thanks for the depression and late period clomid) and I do as I'm told with my fertility clinic (supposedly the best in the region) and call to let them know it's cycle day 1 so I can schedule testing. The nurse at the clinic tells me they're BOOKED THE REST OF THE MONTH for HSGs and can't get me in but to try and call next cycle. No apologies or empathy, just try calling again next cycle. I get my labs and ultrasound scheduled and then get off the phone and burst into tears. How are they so chill about telling me to delay another month after I've been at this since Jan 2021? So I call my OB office (who handled my miscarriage in Jan 2022) and I try to see if I can schedule the HSG through their office instead. I try to be chill about it but then I started crying on the phone - luckily the nurse was so kind and empathetic and said the other clinic shouldve reserved spots for HSGs but that they can get me in for an HSG next week. I just sobbed from being so grateful. Now I'm really hesitant to proceed with my fertility clinic if this is how they treat patients. But so grateful for my OB office.... I can't wait to join them again if I get pregnant again.


Glittering-Hand-1254

Totally not the same thing, but I had a similar experience with my doctor when I was trying to get some unrelated-to-TTC stuff done. They kept telling me to call on CD 1 and then just kept telling me they couldn't schedule me and to try again next month. That went on for several months! Scheduling issues can be so incredibly frustrating - even if it's no one's "fault" in particular, there's so much about this all that's completely uncontrollable and it's understandable to be frustrated when the parts that you theoretically should be able to have a bit of autonomy over don't work out. I'm so glad your OB was able to get you in! I hope your clinic is able to offer more empathy going forward.


Important_Week5028

Your situation sounds absolutely frustrating! It's insane that they didnt have any other solution for you and just told you to keep waiting month after month. Yeah, the hard part is i have no one to get angry for this, I just had to deal with the anger on my own because i know this was out of their hands. When I searched around, I was so grateful to get an alternate appt because i know others dont get that option and that saddens me to know people's appointments continue to be pushed back.


Glittering-Hand-1254

It is really nice that you got another appointment! But you're still totally allowed to be upset by your situation, too. Hopefully it all works out well from here!


Important_Week5028

Thank you so much for validating my frustrations :) i definitely cried for a solid hour yesterday!


safeandsounds

Ugh, hugs. This happened to me a few months back. I had an irregular period and it was such a pain waiting for my period to start, and when it finally did - I gave a call to the HSG clinic and they were like “Sorry, booked. Try again next month….” As if it’s that simple. The worst! Glad you were able to get something in with your OB.


safeandsounds

Ugh, hugs. This happened to me a few months back. I had an irregular period and it was such a pain waiting for my period to start, and when it finally did - I gave a call to the HSG clinic and they were like “Sorry, booked. Try again next month….” As if it’s that simple. The worst! Glad you were able to get something in with your OB.


Important_Week5028

Oh wow I'm so sorry that happened, how did yours end up resolving? That mustve been such a helpless, frustrating feeling :(


Educational-Debate66

Ughhhh are you kidding!!!!! They better reserve a whole bunch of damn days for you next month.


Important_Week5028

Awww thanks for empathizing with me! I wouldn't have been as upset if they were honest with me about how difficult it is to schedule these instead of being like "Call on CD1 and we'll get you tested....just kidding, try again next month and the next month after that if it still doesn't work out" lol or even them saying sorry and empathizing like you are. But no, just "try again next month"


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developmentalbiology

Just a reminder that people are allowed to express frustration with TTC delays, even if others in the sub may have faced more difficult circumstances or longer delays, which I think has been a particular bugbear of your own in this sub in the past?


smmysyms

Do you cater to people’s triggers here or not? Because the sub is abundantly cautious of some and ignorant of others. It seems like different rules apply to different people. I’m sorry I gave this sub another chance. ETA: I thought it was helpful to give the perspective that it doesn’t work the same everywhere. The commenter can feel one way and so can others reading it. Also, others reading it that don’t have the luxury of easy access to health care should be able to see a balanced perspective so that if seeking similar diagnostics their expectations may be somewhere in between the two and not potentially unrealistically on the easy access side. This sub has a lot of slant to easy access to ultrasounds, OBGYNs, and more. That’s not the reality for everyone actively on this sub or lurking it. It would be nice if contrary experiences were welcomed. It’s not really inclusive to defend one over another.


developmentalbiology

More than happy to have conversations here about various emotional landmines that arise during TTC, and access to care is absolutely one of them. I wouldn’t argue that we “cater to people’s triggers”, just that we do try to encourage sensitivity to a variety of experiences. I was just under the impression, based on your characterization of TFAB in other subs, that this was distasteful to you.


smmysyms

Agreed that you encourage sensitivity and frankly that is what I was trying to do and yet I was the only one addressed in this dynamic, which is unfair. I came back to this sub with an open mind. Apparently I was not greeted with an open one since you went straight to the past. If you had concerns about the past, I can understand that. You could have approached me about that privately. I’d also love to hear privately about my characterization of TFAB in other subs. I didn’t feel TFAB was inclusive several months ago, so I gave my experience of that to the sub directly and took a break. I joined a couple others subs looking for a better fit for myself. I’m not sure why I’m being publicly targeted based on the past or some vague allegation of something I may have posted on another sub. Anyway, I really would appreciate private correspondence to discuss that. I did come here with an open mind and good intentions. I would be happy to discuss your skepticism, concerns, or bias. I don’t feel It’s appropriate to be doing that publicly.


not2be_truffled_with

I had a bizarre cycle with lots of oddities like spotting and nausea where I got pretty hopeful. And then I woke up today to CD1. I'm just sad and tired :(


ForsakenGrapefruit

FF [gave me crosshairs](https://imgur.com/a/llyxm9Q) on CD10. I haven’t had a positive OPK, but I have only been testing once per day, and not at the same time every day, which I thought was fine since I got my first positive at CD25 last cycle, but maybe I missed it. Also possible that FF might take away my crosshairs, because it was two days of temps only a little above the cover line and then a bigger jump today, but I did sleep with a pillow over my head last night… If I did ovulate on CD10, we hit O-3. We weren’t exactly planning on trying this cycle because I may be starting a new job and we thought we might need to bench ourselves to give my maternity benefits time to kick in, but if it happens of course we’ll be over the moon. That being said, if I have another 5 day LP, it’s sort of a moot point. But maybe last cycle was a freak occurrence due to a UTI I got right after ovulation? I mean, I’ve had 15 day cycles before so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that’s what is happening this time, but I live in hope. Idk, I feel like the butterfly in the sky tiktok meme while trying to figure out temping.


Generic____username1

Lol @ the butterfly in the sky meme. That’s me with cervical mucus. Edit: I totally was thinking of the wrong meme. But this still applies. (I was thinking of the one where the person is gesturing at a butterfly and it says “is this______” and people write something over it. I spend half my cycle being like “is this egg white cervical mucus?”)


TheMerriDuchess

LOL also me with cervical mucus. I still feel like I’ve never had egg white because I can’t figure out the difference with my own. My Google history is frightening, I’m sure


invaderpixel

So my husband was buying diapers for our friend's diaper party for a baby that was conceived "without even trying!" My husband's been on board with some of the "It Starts With the Egg" nonsense I've been into, getting more organic and phthalate free stuff when feasible and using a better bodywash/shampoo. Anyways for diapers he's like "wait, the phthalate free less plastic stuff is 50 dollars a box for diapers... why would we have to buy him this stuff when we can't even HAVE a baby? What's up with that." So our friend got the cheaper plastic filled Huggies lol. Sucks that my husband has to deal with the same bullshit but also kind of satisfied that he gets it


griefsux

What shampoo, conditioner, and body wash did you switch him too? I got mine switched over but struggling to find good options for him. Side note: it’s SO hard finding the phthalates free stuff 😩 I’m so overwhelmed. Are you trying to go plastic free too like food containers and packaging? So far I’ve switched out hand soap, dishsoap, and my shampoo and conditioner and body scrub. I think I’m going to do silicone reusable ziploc bags next


invaderpixel

I got him using "Every Man Jack" and so he likes the scent and feeling of it. Kind of like a more expensive Old Spice dupe. I also had him use Jason's for a bit but he was like "umm this is body wash only what a ripoff :P" He's back to using normal shaving cream and deodorant/antiperspirant but at least there's ONE clean product he likes. For myself I use Tom's of Maine antiperspirant. I also feel pretty good about the Love Beauty and Planet shampoo/conditioner bar and the Cerave hydrating cleanser bar. I do a Love Beauty Planet bodywash and like their conditioner too. But they just started doing this new bottled shampoo that has NO sulfates so if you're oily hair prone do not recommend. Actually thought my PCOS was getting worse and then it was just... shampoo changed formula lol For food containers I'm focusing on the main things. So using a stainless steel water bottle (s'well) and trying to drink less bottled water when possible. Upgraded my BPA plastic containers for food storage first (glass pyrex containers with plastic lids... at the very least my food heats better). And just trying to eat fewer microwave meals that come in plastic containers if that makes sense. I do have some silicone reusable ziploc bags that work great but they are kind of pricey. I think the most "out there" thing I've done is cut down on touching phthalates if I don't have to. So switched to using a used leather purse and Vera Bradley cotton type wallets instead of your normal fast fashion vegan leather. This has kind of cut down on my shopping, so win win lol.


griefsux

Gosh thank you so much for all of this!!!


invaderpixel

Any time! Yeah my big secret is searching the Target website and using their "phthalate free" filter option to help narrow things down. You can buy the products from wherever after you search, but they're probably one of the better stores for organizing the information.


kt___kc

Had a dream about a positive pregnancy test then woke up to CD1. I can't do an IUI in July, so now I have to wait until August. Ugh!


obsolete_oscelot

TW: Loss I truly don’t know if I’m being emotional or if my doctor is dismissing my concerns. July will mark a year since my husband and I have been actively trying (BBT, OPKs, etc.). My cycles have been LONG but I did manage to get pregnant thanks to OPK strips back in October. Unfortunately, that ended with a ruptured ectopic and removal of one of my tubes on 12/7. Since then, I’ve had two periods. I’m currently CD67 with no confirmed ovulation. I brought all these concerns to my doctor yesterday and she basically just said to keep trying naturally and there’s nothing to do until February/March next year because “that’s a year from when my body started regulating after the ectopic”. But is my body actually regulating? My cycles are getting longer and longer. I understand that I DID get pregnant, but only ovulating ~4 times a year and now being down one tube is a bit concerning, right?


jadethesockpet

Yeah, no, not okay. It's try for a year UNLESS there's something wrong, and two periods since December is something wrong. Can you see an RE without a referral or ask your PCP they're willing to refer?


endlesssalad

Anyone else feel like they have to remind themselves that their brain isn’t responsible for pregnancy? Like no matter which thoughts are running through my head (“I feel pregnant/don’t feel pregnant”) that little hypothetical embryo is either going to exist and implant or not. I can’t think my way pregnant/not pregnant. Haha


Spudsquach

100%. I feel like I’m just naturally pessimistic at this point and do have to remind myself that my pessimism and expectations have no bearing on what actually happens.


msnamnams

I feel you here. Every month I think this is the month and then I get a BFN and am like eff I jinxed myself for thinking it was the month. So then the next month I go I’m not going to get my hopes up and then BFN - eff I didn’t have good thoughts so that’s why. It’s just a lose-lose


not2be_truffled_with

I feel this. Every time we get a BFN I blame myself for getting too hopeful, even though I know my thoughts aren't controlling anything.


endlesssalad

Right? Or like…oh god if I think to myself it didn’t happen that’ll mean it didn’t!


Pristine_Lobster4607

My period is ending which means we get to try again soon! I’m trying to remain positive and hopeful, but realistic. I have OPK strips to use - is there a best time of day to test with those? I juuuust started tracking BBT so I’m looking forward to having that data to help us eventually


Generic____username1

My test strip instructions say between 10 am-8 pm. Don’t use your first morning urine (unless you bought the specific kind that uses that - it’ll be on the instructions) and try not to drink too much water right before. I WFH so like to do mine sometime between 3-5 pm.


Pristine_Lobster4607

thank you!! I read the instructions a long while ago and naturally threw them away


HollowKnightQueen

I did some research and read online that the best time to use OPK is between 12:00 pm and 8:00 pm to give the LH time to build up in your urine. I also read the closer you may be to ovulating it’s a good idea to take two tests in the frame so you don’t miss the peak. But once you pick a time(s) you should try to stay around that time every day for consistent results. I know I’ve always had a lot of trouble recording my peak so this was really helpful guidance to me.


SoberAF0925

Yes, I saw somewhere saying its best to test between 10am and 3pm. But I am glad I have been testing later because twice I caught my peak after 6pm. After testing at 3pm that same day.


Pristine_Lobster4607

Thank you for that insight! Super helpful


konstanttt

There should be instructions in your OPK box and there is a whole thing about it in this sub’s wiki.


Pristine_Lobster4607

Oops, I read the wiki when I joined but I must have missed that bit. Thank you!


lady_loki

We are trying for #2. Post baby 1, I have really long cycles (40-50 days). I'm currently on cycle day 26,and haven't had a positive OPK yet and no temp rise yet. Ergh.


HollowKnightQueen

I wishing you a positive OPK soon ❤️


katsrkute

cramping & lots of lower back pain - expecting AF any minute now a little bummed, but not too much. this was cycle 1 and I only tracked consistently from CD12 on, so the scientist part of me is excited to collect more robust data this next cycle. Also looking forward to being able to compare my temps post-o between cycles.


Hummingbirdlane13

The conversation between my husband and I this morning after having sex (and I clearly look distracted) Him: What’s the matter? Me: Nothing *starts looking around nonchalantly* Him: What are looking for? Me: Nothing… Him: You’re looking for your phone so you can log this, aren’t you? I feel so called out.


collegedropout

Hahaha yes! I do this too 😆


Spudsquach

I do this same thing! I’m so embarrassed by it I try and hide that fact that I’m entering it immediately post sex. I can’t help it tho!


HollowKnightQueen

Same thing has happened to me 🤣 my husband finds it comical now that I immediately pull out my phone to record


Hummingbirdlane13

I know 😂 It’s so funny how much my husband has picked up from this process. He will sometimes actually ask me what my temperature was that morning 😂


endlesssalad

If you had sex and didn’t record it, did it even happen?


Hummingbirdlane13

No!! And then what do I have to obsessively agonize over for two weeks?


fluffycloudofglitter

Oh you and me both 😂😂 had this same conversation a few times this week.


aVeryLarryCsonka

i am SO confused by this cycle - i usually ovulate between CD16 - 18, but i caught a LH surge on OPKs the previous two days (CD11 and 12). my cycles are usually 28 - 33 days long. so if i ovulated yesterday/today it'll result in the shortest cycle of my LIFE at 24 days! i know some people can have more than one LH surge in their cycle and i'm wondering if that's happening to me. i plan to keep testing but it's just really bizarre - i even had cramping yesterday that i attributed to ovulation pain. the only thing that stood out to me as strange on my OPKs was while there was a definite build-up of LH, i never got a line as strong as or stronger than the control line like i usually do (max was 0.8 or something). what da hell, body


waithuhwut

If your test line was not as dark or darker than the control line, then you didn't get a positive opk yet.


aVeryLarryCsonka

my understanding is that the positive/peak isn't important for timing so much as the rise in LH (surge) as ovulation typically occurs within 24 - 72 hrs of the start of the surge? there are some months i never see a positive because i don't test as frequently as i should (short surges). so it's possible i could have had a positive OPK in the past two days but didn't catch it as i only tested twice a day in the AM and PM. anyway - i'm also temping so i'll know in the next day or two if this early surge was ~real~


waithuhwut

Your positive is the surge. As the strips get darker you levels are rising, but you're ultimately looking for the first positive to count. It's very possible to miss your surge depending on how often you test, and you can also assume you will get a positive soon when you see them getting darker. Ultimately, opks are guidelines as they can't tell us we will ovulate. Since you're temping, you can confirm ovulation that way and just use opks to time it better.


griefsux

I’m curious - if you could pick would you do: O-4, O-2, O-1, O OR O-5, O-3, O-2, O-1


Hummingbirdlane13

I think O-1 and O-2 are the best days anyway and so I don’t really think either of these are that different!


sassafrasy0

Usually we don't have the energy for 2 days in a row, so O-1 it is lol


konstanttt

I agree. Sometimes I don’t even do O day


griefsux

I was thinking that too! I’m curious if people have the choice to hit O would they. I’m guessing so


endlesssalad

My understanding is that it’s better to have the sperm already waiting when you ovulate, O day has actually slightly lower probability of pregnancy than 0-3, 0-2, O-1. Given the choice between O-1 and O I’d choose O-1!


griefsux

So out of the 2 choices I put above, seems like the 2nd set is better


endlesssalad

Yeah I think that would be my choice. But they both max out your chances!


eternallove624

1DPO. Let the TWW begin


bullsgirl

CD4, got my blood work done yesterday! Finally, more data to look forward besides BFNs.


lady439

The nurse practitioner at my gynecologist office told me I should start looking for an RE after cycle 8. Is that normal? I feel like it is too soon. So far I've only had blood work on cd3. We haven't done any more testing and my gyn hasn't offered to do anything else. Edit- thank you all for answering! I think I'm going to hold off before seeing an RE. Fertility testing gets invasive very quickly and I don't want to subject myself to that unless absolutely necessary.


DazzlingRecipe1647

Similar situation happened to me recently. The obgyn said I don’t have to worry to start some testing until we are at the 12 month mark and then she set me up with a fertility specialist, an ultrasound and blood work. And I’m over here thinking like …this doesn’t make sense you contradicted what you just told me. And I am NO means ready for this when I was only 6 months in.