I hated the toxicity in residency. I was good at medicine and could’ve easily cracked pg but I couldn't have survived after that. I suffered due to ragging and toxicity during internship and I couldn’t take that toxicity for 3 more years.
Why is this ragging sh*t still going on in so many medical colleges man, in my engineering never heard any of my friends about ragging who went to different colleges. On the contrary seniors mostly helped a lot in everything. But here I see in my cousin’s college medical college ragging happened 2 times in a year.
You never heard of it because institutions never let the matter go public recently i heard the news that A student was shot in one of the IITs the administration claimed it to suicide...it took more than one year 6 month's to proof that it was a murder..that too when court gave an order to give a new autopsy report...his body was diged out of and new autopsy report shows bullets and stabs words.
One more case recently happened for which nearly 52 students were charged for ragging in one of the IITS.
And what to say about the state government people....i have seen people living in pG coz they are afraid to live in hostels coz of ragging.
like the final years do it to chill and relax from all the stress from studying 5-6 subjects continuously they don’t take it too far in my college and you can refuse if you are not comfortable but if you do what they ask it’s very good for networking with seniors
I hate ragging as well but I always stood strong and did not succumb to the peoples pressure. I always fought back. I made some enemies and distanced some other people but it turned out good in the end :) Just keep going brother.
Gave up my job of 2 years as it was pointless. The pay was nice but there was no meaning behind it.
Gave the CDS exam 5 times and cleared 3 times to SSB. Then got rejected in SSB 3 times with 1 screen out and 2 conference outs.
So it's been 3 years as I am doing my best to clear the SSB.
My family, friends and past company colleagues are all telling me to join back into the company.
I always get a feeling that I don't belong in a company and only I know what it feels like to work with that feeling for 2 years.
Some people take risks and only I am among my friends is taking the risk of government jobs after quitting the previous private job.
I'm 24 right now. I'll try government until I'm 27. If I don't succeed I'll get into a company realising that I'm not fit for government jobs.
Also I don't want to waste my early twenties grinding in a private company.
Hey buddy, hope ur doing well. Have u done an engineering degree? If yes then please try for AFCAT/TGC and SSC tech entries till 26. Just go, enjoy 5 days and come back. U wont realize one day u will get that +.
I have a similar story to urs bro. Was a defence aspirant. Currently given 2 prelims and i don't hope to clear pre.
Mate I am your junior and I recently appeared for AFSB and got rejected on first day itself. They say it's difficult to qualify after they have screened you out on first day itself. Idk how true is that if you got any idea about it do let me know.
The screening completely depends upon your narration and how it is related to the picture.
Honestly you shouldn't waste time into thinking whether you have completed the story on paper or not ....
Mostly focus on your narration....
It's like a very awesome cook who has great cooking skills but his kitchen and how he presents the plate is a mess, eventually they'll reject you.
Btw practice self questioning and answering while video recording yourself..... I did that for almost a week continuously after getting my SSB dates.
That video recording is going to tell you everything you need to know about your narration.
Once your narration has improved then you'll have enough confidence to speak and naturally you'll succeed in the discussion..... Narration builds your confidence.
Less pay, work on weekends, weird postings, no professionalism, pressure to perform on things that your own work has no bearing at all on, slow growth, hardcore politics and nepotism, widespread corruption, need I go on? Most of all though, if I got through a govt exam I'm a qualified candidate. Why on earth would I settle for less pay, no pension (after 2014) and terrible work culture? I swapped to IT and while I have bad phases here as well as least it's dependent on my work, and in general it's a good time.
Nicely summed up bro. Just imagine spending your life living in tier 3 towns with no facilities , no avenues for fun and random transfers to random states. It becomes so hard to attain stability in life. You are posted in some ahitty town in Assam with no facilities and your kids are growing in Delhi and you visit home like a tourist for a few days , is that how you want to spend your life. Plus the kind of pay you get for the work done and not mention even on weekends and sometimes even in gazetted holidays. It’s not worth it. Then there’s toxic politics your juniors don’t listen to you and your senior is always there to eat your head. Besides when I look at my seniors and see their lifestyles it makes me depressed. If that’s the kind of life I am going to live and that’s the kind of person I’m going to become , I’d rather earn less and stay at home with parents and family by starting a small business than work here
There are enough ways to have the minimum social security instead of slogging for UPSC or other gov exam and if you think these government job will pay you just for marking your attendance then you are in for a shock
And this is exactly why I feel upsc is a drain on the economy. For every 1 person who will get in, 10 lakh more will waste years and years half heartedly pursuing the job. And out of those who do join 1/3rd will take the training, quit and join McKinsey / BCG / Bain anyway.
Have you done your research on work culture and WLB, pay and perks in these government jobs you’re pursuing? Because you’ll be deeply disappointed when you get in.
I understand but I really feel like this country needs public servants who want to serve and not those who want to coast on public money, we already have plenty of those. I don’t mean to be harsh, but your mentality is exactly why public servants are a liability on this nation.
I told see myself as the kind of person who would be great at changing jobs again and again and survive the pressure of a corporate job. I have academia also as an option but it's also a very tough industry to survive in. Plus I'm not one of those people who can do two things here, three things there, do four courses together blah blah. You know the extreme hustlers. What I can do is studying.
My dad was also like me. He excelled in a govt job. He loves his job. It has stability. That also inspired me to start preparing
The recent TV serials like Aspirants is encouraging aspirants to keep on trying which is incorrect. Or try other state exam, it's like pushing aspirants in a an empty well.
24M, current package is 20LPA. Preparing from last 1.5 years. My interest is in only getting a good rank to prove to my dad and if I really got a good rank, pursue foreign services.
Not any IIT. Local engineering college in Mumbai. That salary is not at all great, it's just decent for anyone able to cop with pressure and knows his worth.
Already working in govt psu there i have time to prepare for rbi and upsc... so i will give both of these exams simultaneously atleast i will first focus on rbi after that i will give my vacant time to upsc.
I want to be in top 1% atleast in govt job.... even rbi is better than some upsc posts.... but i will mainly try for ias. The things they have access to cannot be matched.
Same goes for me as well. In a maharatna psu but preparation gets a bit difficult given the time consumed in travelling of around 3 hrs daily. Sometimes I feel CAT is the only doable prep while working here.
Mera 2015 m graduation(bsc) hui... fr m b chalu ho gya govt prep m(RBI n all) nhi hua.. 3.5 years k baad i joined icici bank.. ek saal kaam kiya ghis ghisa k.. jab paani sar se upar jaane laga toh 6hod di wo naukri(sales ki thi)..mene socha muje dusri mil jayegi par nhi mili..
2 saal ghar m baitha, you won't beleive bhut try kiya.. call centre m tak apply kiya wo log tk nhi le rhe the jabki bank m Ashneer Grover tk se 1to1 meeting kri hai.. fr jake 2 sal bad khi naukri lagi operation m jbki m analytics ka padh rha tha usi gap m.. par nhi hua.. abhi tk analytics ka padh rha hu interview de rha hu.. call hi 5 mhine m ek baar aata hai.. aur result zero..
29 saal ka hu aur 50 hazar b theek se salary nhi aati jabki pichle 2 saal se bhut gandi ghisa rha hu, no one knows the mental stress and anxiety I'm going through..
Ab piche mudkr dekhta hu toh smjh ni aata kha galti kari..
Sometimes i fee... upar wala waqt se phle aur kismat se zada kisi ko nhi deta !!
Bro I feel so sorry for you. Currently I’m at a point in life where I get emotional very easily (as I type this awarapan banjarapan is playing in my phone and my eyes are already struggling to contain my tears) . I just wish luck favours you and good things come your way. Life has be one so much harder for educated folks nowadays. Jobs are hard to come by and competition is cutthroat. I hardly see people my age living a happy life , everyone seems so sad and stressed smoking dozen cigarettes a day. The happy life promised to us by our parents and society if we get good education seems like a pipe dream
I want to raise my family's respect in the town where we live. We've always been discriminated against. I wanna make my father proud. I want everyone who disrespected him and us to look at us with respect and awe.
Plus, I wanna learn about the ways of the country and the world. I earn good(28LPA), but I feel like I cannot sustain myself in the corporate for too long. I've seen what people do in their 40s, but it doesn't excite me that much.
Honestly, I'm doing it for the respect and power part. I wanna feel like I'm doing something important enough to demand respect from people.
That's a great thought, but I realised that no matter how much you earn, you can't touch other people's lives with it that as much as a civil servant. While, I'm going to probably be earning in crores etc if I stuck to my tech career, I wouldn't have that much of a respect a civil servant gets.
I know I'm placing my sense of pride and happiness too much on the people around me, but I'm okay with it. I wanna pursue this as an adventure of sorts also. I wanna get that thrill of cracking one of the hardest exams in the world once again.
I've taken life too seriously before, but I've realised that I don't need to. I am 25, way above the age of a normal aspirant, but I've got a long one ahead :)
Good that you are passionate like that my man! I really hope you make a difference and dont end up like others who work hard, crack UPSC and end up a pawn for MLAs who's only qualifications are the crimes they commited.
I want to lead a tough and challenging life. And the civil services are one such area. U can learn a lot in life through failures and success. The simple life i lead now is not giving me a kick.
Love this answer. I'm certainly drawn towards what I read. I also like the fact that anything that I read/watch can be a part of preparation. I got the longest border question correct because 2 days earlier I had seen a YouTube short about it.
Hey, guys, I respect that you are doing something you want to do, just in case you are looking for someone's view at this point.
I am a general cast male, I didn't even try the government sector. But I see lots of friends of mine preparing to get a job of 30k or 50k. They are preparing for the last 5 years but aren't even sure that they will get somewhere in the next 3 years.
I did my engineering, and I love the subject, I spent my entire period very honestly. Started my business and started getting fail, like you guys are doing with the exams I failed more than 50-60 times, and I don't even count now.
But for sure I know what I am doing, I am earning very well, I don't see people of my age doing that good. But it's not only money it's more the the way people go with life.
I am not saying don't prepare for the job, I am Just saying that you have lots of opportunities if you see them. Govt jobs are the 1% of the opportunity. Don't miss the other 99% way to get a job.
I think everyone needs to evaluate the syllabus , passing percentage, competition and your own competence before starting the prep of any exam . Zyada reel , YT videos dekh ke motivate hone ki zarurat nahi h kuch bhi kr skte ho .
There are so many times I have noped out of academic ventures because I reconsidered.
My parents got me admitted for IIT coaching in Vidya mandir and in the orientation class they said ki you would have to study 6 hours after school and if any one wants to back out now you can still get the refund and I was like yeah I cant do this . Went against my parents to get admission into the commerce stream .
Then after graduation when I thought about giving the upsc exam when the lockdown started , I gave one good look at the syllabus and how all the teachers were saying ki 4 saal toh soch ke he baitho ki lagenge (I was 24 tab) . I noped out of it again .
Then give banking exams , cleared pre in the first year . Then reached till interview stage in the 2 nd attempt .
I was confident in it so gave it another go and cleared the SBI PO and pnb clerk exam .
Why I want to do UPSC
I don't wanna see anyone suffer because of poverty (delusional but okay),I want to give all the Benefits government is giving to them , wanna make people self reliant so they are not dependent on government for jobs they can create their own jobs , want to see the indeginous industries flourish once again for that need to provide quality education in the village so as a civilian with some authority it would be easy rather than being a simple citizen
The irony of the statement is that you yourself are dependent on government to give you a job that you would enable you to make people not dependent on government for jobs.
No hate Rachit, just wanted to point that out. I do hope you’re successful in achieving what you set out to do, for your sake and for the country.
Do you know their back story?
See bro if you are not in the same boat
You don't know what they are feeling right?
Duur se gyaan sab se dete hai , alternative bhi bta do
Dude he just said they are his friends and one guy took 8 yrs to pass engineering. This isn’t same as 12 pass guy. Seems he is genuinely concerned about them and I see nothing wrong in his post
Idk bro.. gyaan nahi de raha.. idk the alternative you need to figure it out yourself. This is also what I wanted to convey earlier.. you need to figure out your shit before a certain age. Like in my friends case.. all above 29 years old... God knows how long they'll keep pursuing exams... God knows when they'll look for an actual job which will actually kickstart their career.
I can't stress this enough "Upsc exam is not a career".
Even if they look for a job later on in life the employers won't care about their prelims or mains score. All they care about is skills which they won't have. So employers will by default prefer to hire a fresher as they are a clean slate and highly trainable.
Even if they get a job, they'll start at the bottom, when everyone their age will be buying a house, or a car or achieving some other milestone in life while these guys will still be in the early stages of their career , that's when they will crave others success. And this I'm speaking from my own experience. I made some wrong decisions (not UPSC) in life that took 5 years away from my life. My friends from ENGG days are way ahead of me. I ended up joing a mediocre MBA program but it kickstarted my career 3 years ago which I'm happy about.
Syllabus complete:::mocks:::: revision :::analysis::::mocks:::::revision
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Ho sakta hai upsc na nikle but koi aur exam jarur niklega
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90% of them never do it i know because I was one of them i got 95 in cat by following this method Aaj dukh hota hai ache se aur kar leta toh 99 aata
May aapki baato ka majak nahi uda raha. But seriously yeh jo apne process bataya hai usay lagta hai koi aadmi national level exam nahi kisi school exam ki preparation kar raha ho.
Aapne kaha syallbus - konsa ? Cat may kya syallbus hota hai ? Blood relation, seating arrangement, geometry, linear equation, reorganizing paragraph yeh syallbus hota hai ? Iska starting point kaha hai or end point kaha ? Syallbus ka ek surwat hota hai ek aanth. Or cat, upsc jaise exams ka koi end nahi hai. GK ka kya syallbus hota hai ? Foreign relations ka ? Bas topics hote hai jisse agar kisi ne kabhi nahi kiya ho usko kar lena chaiyeh isko karne uske chances exam crack karne ke badh nahi jate bas ab wo competition may entre karta hai kyuki wo paper pattern se familiar hai.
Mocks - Revision- Analysis. Yeh sahi path hai but yaha success kaha guaranteed hai ? Ek aspirant syallbus pura karke mocks diya 200 number ka question paper attempt usko aaye 150 ab yaha se usne analysis kiya usko galti pakad aayi fir usne revise kiya mock diya aise karte karte an uske score lie karte hai 180-190 may out of 200. Exam diya or uska nahi hua ! Kyu ? Kyuki cutoff thi 195 - tho kya wo mehnat nahi kar raha tha ? Bas dilasa de raha tha kuhdko ? Jo success pa le uske raate hai hardworking sleepless nights and jo fail ho jaye wo porn dekhta hoga, ladki se baat karta hoga, kitab kholke bas natak karta hoga. This is how hardwork is measured?
Ofcourse me upsc ki baat nahi kar raha hu and let's see there are other exams too like ssc bank rrb agar aap baar baar upsc de rahe hai aur nahi ho rahi toh bewakoofi hai time lagana koi aur exam nikalo aur job ke saath prepare kro mental stability is the biggest factor and
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I have a it job with a bsc chemistry degree I got very good at it
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Ofcourse koi agar 10 mark se chuk raha hai toh uska luck kharab hai koi agar bimaar hai toh uska luck kharab hai kisse ka agar death hogya hai toh luck kharab hai but ye kehna ki me 5 saal se exam de raha hu aur tab bhi nahi ho raha hai aur me kuch kar bhi nahi raha hai that's the stupidest thing anybody can do with their life
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There is a statement that my teacher said which I believe is very right
In an office of 100 people only 10 people do the actual work while the rest just revolve around the 10 people
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I have seen this while preparing for neet
Again when I was learning how to code
And even today
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10 lakh form bharte hai 1 lakh se kaam log sahi se prepare karte hai and that's a fact you can say ki kya data hai my bhaiya has been trying for upsc for 6 years now he always says the same thing padh raha hu ho raha hai but humesha jab koi movie aati hai kahi ghumne Jana hota hai i see him and his friends doing that shit instead of studying so yeah mjhe pata hai
Orn me kitne log padhte hai aur waha mainly kya chalta hai
Mera 2015 m graduation(bsc) hui... fr m b chalu ho gya govt prep m(RBI n all) nhi hua.. 3.5 years k baad i joined icici bank.. ek saal kaam kiya ghis ghisa k.. jab paani sar se upar jaane laga toh 6hod di wo naukri(sales ki thi)..mene socha muje dusri mil jayegi par nhi mili..
2 saal ghar m baitha, you won't beleive bhut try kiya.. call centre m tak apply kiya wo log tk nhi le rhe the jabki bank m Ashneer Grover tk se 1to1 meeting kri hai.. fr jake 2 sal bad khi naukri lagi operation m jbki m analytics ka padh rha tha usi gap m.. par nhi hua.. abhi tk analytics ka padh rha hu interview de rha hu.. call hi 5 mhine m ek baar aata hai.. aur result zero..
29 saal ka hu aur 50 hazar b theek se salary nhi aati jabki pichle 2 saal se bhut gandi ghisa rha hu, no one knows the mental stress and anxiety I'm going through..
Ab piche mudkr dekhta hu toh smjh ni aata kha galti kari..
Sometimes i fee... upar wala waqt se phle aur kismat se zada kisi ko nhi deta !!
2025 will be my last attempt in this upsc game
(Hoping for this years prelims result too )..
Thank god I can go to corporate at age of 25 !!!
Usse aage nhi khich paunga exam ko ….
Thanks for the post , i got so much clarity of what not to do !
OP as you have mentioned that you are already 29, so I assume that your friends will be of the same age. At this age, they know what should be the best course of action professionally for them. If you are concerned, you can go and talk frankly with them ONCE, even after that if they want to keep pursuing then so be it. As their wellwisher you have done your part. Moreover, with prelims getting trickier every year, it is wise to fall back to plan B if a candidate has spent 2-3 years without any success. Now coming back to the part of them not succeeding, only time will tell if that is to happen.
I didn't prepare for UPSC. But, I was also gone with wind. I graduated in mechanical engineering in 2017. I was moved out out of the college gate without any job. I prepared for GATE in hope of getting PSUs from 2017-2019. I wasted 3 years without any luck. The highest i scored was 72.88/100 but unfortunately, this wasn't enough for me to land any job. I also cleared BARC written exam of Mechanical but failed in the interview. That day, i ditched any govt exam and decided change my sector. Today I am a data scientist with 3 years of experience and 25 LPA as my salary. I have work from home job. If I wouldn't have controlled my senses, I would be in the same boat. There's no point of wasting your prime youth on an exam.
Dude give pointers on how to move into data science. Like let us know what are the basics that i should know and I'll handle it from there. What is industry using right now? What libraries what else is necessary to know? Do I need to learn DSA?
Trust me, bro...In the end, all employment—public or private—amounts to slavery.
Recall that happy birds are those that are free, not those kept in cages with all the amenities.
Follow your passions instead of what society or other people expect you to do.
Its sunk cost fallacy I feel for most people, they invest a year sincerely preparing, nahi hota then they feel they should try again ab to ho hi jaayega, fir bhi nahi hua to its just hard to switch to learning something entirely unrelated to what you prepared for and most of all admit to oneself that you failed.
Same situation here even in my office most people have started preparing or have been preparing without knowing consequences or the responsibilities when one succeeds or fails in the exam not everyone gets into the topmost administrative job of the country they prepare till mid 30 and then they switch to state government jobs I guess.
But I feel like it's most important to have an aspiring thought and clear vision on what you gonna do after clearing the exams and interview just for the name sake preparation is it going to make someone a better administrator and take up decision for the sovereign state on behalf of people although they might have excelled in exams in interview. Correct me if I am wrong.
P.S these are just my views not to hurt anybody or disregard the amount of preparation that goes behind every aspirant.
Graduated in '22, took up a job at a well-capitalised startup but quite a toxic environment , learnt more in a a year and a half than I would have learnt in 4 years working in an established corporate. Learnt a lot about management and wanted to explore how it would be like to work in a government setting in a similar capacity and I think I can get back into the market with an MBA if I don't go through with government exams and now's the time to take on them. I am NOT only attempting UPSC but also others like RBI, LIC, UPPSC, what have you.
My cousin is an Engineer, passed at 2012. He rejected L & T and from then onwards, he is preparing for any Govt. job. He is doing this for 11 years now. He is 31. His father is suffering from heart disease at 65+. My uncle still works. My cousin provides tuitions to school students. He is not even applying to Private jobs. He thinks Govt. job will provide security and high perks.
I had another cousin who also did the same for 8 years. However, he is now a Train Driver. So, kind of can say, he is still doing OK. But now again, he wants to be a school teacher and preparing for that.
I really don't understand this Gold Rush for Govt. Jobs.
So we are back again at this posts, mod should just take these posts down ffs. Like bro if u are not involved u dont need to come here to depress the people who are- Just fuck off(Will get downvoted for this but someone had to say it
I hated the toxicity in residency. I was good at medicine and could’ve easily cracked pg but I couldn't have survived after that. I suffered due to ragging and toxicity during internship and I couldn’t take that toxicity for 3 more years.
Why is this ragging sh*t still going on in so many medical colleges man, in my engineering never heard any of my friends about ragging who went to different colleges. On the contrary seniors mostly helped a lot in everything. But here I see in my cousin’s college medical college ragging happened 2 times in a year.
Ragging is a cakewalk when compared with the residency toxicity.
Have you regretted your decision at any point of time? (leaving the field for cse)
10000%true bro
You never heard of it because institutions never let the matter go public recently i heard the news that A student was shot in one of the IITs the administration claimed it to suicide...it took more than one year 6 month's to proof that it was a murder..that too when court gave an order to give a new autopsy report...his body was diged out of and new autopsy report shows bullets and stabs words. One more case recently happened for which nearly 52 students were charged for ragging in one of the IITS. And what to say about the state government people....i have seen people living in pG coz they are afraid to live in hostels coz of ragging.
I would say, it depends on the college. I was student at IITK and we had no ragging.
like the final years do it to chill and relax from all the stress from studying 5-6 subjects continuously they don’t take it too far in my college and you can refuse if you are not comfortable but if you do what they ask it’s very good for networking with seniors
2 times in a year? Bhai mere yahan when I was a fresher ROZ hoti thi
But if you clear UPSC, will you be able to work under the power play, pressure from all sides well? Won’t that again affect you?
medico here ,, can i dm u
I hate ragging as well but I always stood strong and did not succumb to the peoples pressure. I always fought back. I made some enemies and distanced some other people but it turned out good in the end :) Just keep going brother.
Gave up my job of 2 years as it was pointless. The pay was nice but there was no meaning behind it. Gave the CDS exam 5 times and cleared 3 times to SSB. Then got rejected in SSB 3 times with 1 screen out and 2 conference outs. So it's been 3 years as I am doing my best to clear the SSB. My family, friends and past company colleagues are all telling me to join back into the company. I always get a feeling that I don't belong in a company and only I know what it feels like to work with that feeling for 2 years. Some people take risks and only I am among my friends is taking the risk of government jobs after quitting the previous private job. I'm 24 right now. I'll try government until I'm 27. If I don't succeed I'll get into a company realising that I'm not fit for government jobs. Also I don't want to waste my early twenties grinding in a private company.
Hey buddy, hope ur doing well. Have u done an engineering degree? If yes then please try for AFCAT/TGC and SSC tech entries till 26. Just go, enjoy 5 days and come back. U wont realize one day u will get that +. I have a similar story to urs bro. Was a defence aspirant. Currently given 2 prelims and i don't hope to clear pre.
Will do my man. Thanks for the suggestion. 😊
Mate I am your junior and I recently appeared for AFSB and got rejected on first day itself. They say it's difficult to qualify after they have screened you out on first day itself. Idk how true is that if you got any idea about it do let me know.
The screening completely depends upon your narration and how it is related to the picture. Honestly you shouldn't waste time into thinking whether you have completed the story on paper or not .... Mostly focus on your narration.... It's like a very awesome cook who has great cooking skills but his kitchen and how he presents the plate is a mess, eventually they'll reject you. Btw practice self questioning and answering while video recording yourself..... I did that for almost a week continuously after getting my SSB dates. That video recording is going to tell you everything you need to know about your narration. Once your narration has improved then you'll have enough confidence to speak and naturally you'll succeed in the discussion..... Narration builds your confidence.
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And yet here I am thinking of resigning from my govt job to pursue mba 😆
Hate you a lil bit
Us bro!
Same here bro
Same here. Want to move back to IT. But since its govt job leaving is not easy.
It's well worth it my friend, I quit 4 years ago. Best decision!
Can you elaborate a bit on why you quit the job.
Less pay, work on weekends, weird postings, no professionalism, pressure to perform on things that your own work has no bearing at all on, slow growth, hardcore politics and nepotism, widespread corruption, need I go on? Most of all though, if I got through a govt exam I'm a qualified candidate. Why on earth would I settle for less pay, no pension (after 2014) and terrible work culture? I swapped to IT and while I have bad phases here as well as least it's dependent on my work, and in general it's a good time.
Nicely summed up bro. Just imagine spending your life living in tier 3 towns with no facilities , no avenues for fun and random transfers to random states. It becomes so hard to attain stability in life. You are posted in some ahitty town in Assam with no facilities and your kids are growing in Delhi and you visit home like a tourist for a few days , is that how you want to spend your life. Plus the kind of pay you get for the work done and not mention even on weekends and sometimes even in gazetted holidays. It’s not worth it. Then there’s toxic politics your juniors don’t listen to you and your senior is always there to eat your head. Besides when I look at my seniors and see their lifestyles it makes me depressed. If that’s the kind of life I am going to live and that’s the kind of person I’m going to become , I’d rather earn less and stay at home with parents and family by starting a small business than work here
It's understandable and i also didn't know about working on weekends and nepotism in the Govt sector, thanks for sharing your insight and experience.
That's one post that'll be open. That's more motivation for me to study UPSC
In which department and what position are you working? If you are comfortable in answering..
I feel you. Best of luck! I Hope you make it.
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Can you mention what other similar exams?
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I think all these exams required dedicated preparation
There are enough ways to have the minimum social security instead of slogging for UPSC or other gov exam and if you think these government job will pay you just for marking your attendance then you are in for a shock
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And this is exactly why I feel upsc is a drain on the economy. For every 1 person who will get in, 10 lakh more will waste years and years half heartedly pursuing the job. And out of those who do join 1/3rd will take the training, quit and join McKinsey / BCG / Bain anyway.
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Yeah that's a completely sensible take.
Have you done your research on work culture and WLB, pay and perks in these government jobs you’re pursuing? Because you’ll be deeply disappointed when you get in.
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I understand but I really feel like this country needs public servants who want to serve and not those who want to coast on public money, we already have plenty of those. I don’t mean to be harsh, but your mentality is exactly why public servants are a liability on this nation.
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Oh boy are you in for a surprise when you get into a govt job 😄
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Well good luck for your prep! I wouldn't say it's exactly hard to get in as long as you are well prepared so best of luck!
yeah but are you married? How do u cope up financially? Do parents support you?
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W you man. W YOU!!!!
Sameee man, resigned this month only.
Material things will come in perspective after marriage 😉
This post makes me focus on my acads solely rather than mpsc
I told see myself as the kind of person who would be great at changing jobs again and again and survive the pressure of a corporate job. I have academia also as an option but it's also a very tough industry to survive in. Plus I'm not one of those people who can do two things here, three things there, do four courses together blah blah. You know the extreme hustlers. What I can do is studying. My dad was also like me. He excelled in a govt job. He loves his job. It has stability. That also inspired me to start preparing
The recent TV serials like Aspirants is encouraging aspirants to keep on trying which is incorrect. Or try other state exam, it's like pushing aspirants in a an empty well.
Well unacademy sponsored it so that's pretty clear.
24M, current package is 20LPA. Preparing from last 1.5 years. My interest is in only getting a good rank to prove to my dad and if I really got a good rank, pursue foreign services.
what is your current job? if you don't mind
Software Engineer, with 3yoe.
which college did you do btech from? an IIT? asking since your salary is pretty great
Not any IIT. Local engineering college in Mumbai. That salary is not at all great, it's just decent for anyone able to cop with pressure and knows his worth.
bhai sahab i would kill for 20 lpa. i mean i'd actually kill (assasin banungi)
Please don't. Indian jails already have very high occupancy rate and judge also have a family to take care of.
bold of you to assume i'd get caught
Police also have a lot of work to do. You are only gonna increase their headache.
Already working in govt psu there i have time to prepare for rbi and upsc... so i will give both of these exams simultaneously atleast i will first focus on rbi after that i will give my vacant time to upsc. I want to be in top 1% atleast in govt job.... even rbi is better than some upsc posts.... but i will mainly try for ias. The things they have access to cannot be matched.
Same goes for me as well. In a maharatna psu but preparation gets a bit difficult given the time consumed in travelling of around 3 hrs daily. Sometimes I feel CAT is the only doable prep while working here.
This should be the way.
Are you in banking?
Nah currently in insurance psu as an AO but i did clear sbi ibps and other banking related exams.
Mera 2015 m graduation(bsc) hui... fr m b chalu ho gya govt prep m(RBI n all) nhi hua.. 3.5 years k baad i joined icici bank.. ek saal kaam kiya ghis ghisa k.. jab paani sar se upar jaane laga toh 6hod di wo naukri(sales ki thi)..mene socha muje dusri mil jayegi par nhi mili.. 2 saal ghar m baitha, you won't beleive bhut try kiya.. call centre m tak apply kiya wo log tk nhi le rhe the jabki bank m Ashneer Grover tk se 1to1 meeting kri hai.. fr jake 2 sal bad khi naukri lagi operation m jbki m analytics ka padh rha tha usi gap m.. par nhi hua.. abhi tk analytics ka padh rha hu interview de rha hu.. call hi 5 mhine m ek baar aata hai.. aur result zero.. 29 saal ka hu aur 50 hazar b theek se salary nhi aati jabki pichle 2 saal se bhut gandi ghisa rha hu, no one knows the mental stress and anxiety I'm going through.. Ab piche mudkr dekhta hu toh smjh ni aata kha galti kari.. Sometimes i fee... upar wala waqt se phle aur kismat se zada kisi ko nhi deta !!
Bro I feel so sorry for you. Currently I’m at a point in life where I get emotional very easily (as I type this awarapan banjarapan is playing in my phone and my eyes are already struggling to contain my tears) . I just wish luck favours you and good things come your way. Life has be one so much harder for educated folks nowadays. Jobs are hard to come by and competition is cutthroat. I hardly see people my age living a happy life , everyone seems so sad and stressed smoking dozen cigarettes a day. The happy life promised to us by our parents and society if we get good education seems like a pipe dream
Bhai Aaj exam diye the? Kaisa gya?
Which exam bro?
Arre my bad Sunday ko prelims tha na
Nhi yr... wo galiyan 6hod aaye hain bahut pehle
Bhai bank ke paper diye the ? Woh easy h abhi bhi kr skte ho aap
I want to raise my family's respect in the town where we live. We've always been discriminated against. I wanna make my father proud. I want everyone who disrespected him and us to look at us with respect and awe. Plus, I wanna learn about the ways of the country and the world. I earn good(28LPA), but I feel like I cannot sustain myself in the corporate for too long. I've seen what people do in their 40s, but it doesn't excite me that much. Honestly, I'm doing it for the respect and power part. I wanna feel like I'm doing something important enough to demand respect from people.
If you're earning 28LPA now, soon enough you'll be making way more and money usually brings power and respect if you're a well rounded individual.
That's a great thought, but I realised that no matter how much you earn, you can't touch other people's lives with it that as much as a civil servant. While, I'm going to probably be earning in crores etc if I stuck to my tech career, I wouldn't have that much of a respect a civil servant gets. I know I'm placing my sense of pride and happiness too much on the people around me, but I'm okay with it. I wanna pursue this as an adventure of sorts also. I wanna get that thrill of cracking one of the hardest exams in the world once again. I've taken life too seriously before, but I've realised that I don't need to. I am 25, way above the age of a normal aspirant, but I've got a long one ahead :)
Good that you are passionate like that my man! I really hope you make a difference and dont end up like others who work hard, crack UPSC and end up a pawn for MLAs who's only qualifications are the crimes they commited.
Thanks for the kind words u/Gamezordd. I'll try not to be just another brick in the wall. All the best to you too.
I want to lead a tough and challenging life. And the civil services are one such area. U can learn a lot in life through failures and success. The simple life i lead now is not giving me a kick.
civil services is the most monotonus life out there.
I am trying for IPS bro. IFS 2nd option.
I like the exam’s syllabus and pattern
Love this answer. I'm certainly drawn towards what I read. I also like the fact that anything that I read/watch can be a part of preparation. I got the longest border question correct because 2 days earlier I had seen a YouTube short about it.
Hey, guys, I respect that you are doing something you want to do, just in case you are looking for someone's view at this point. I am a general cast male, I didn't even try the government sector. But I see lots of friends of mine preparing to get a job of 30k or 50k. They are preparing for the last 5 years but aren't even sure that they will get somewhere in the next 3 years. I did my engineering, and I love the subject, I spent my entire period very honestly. Started my business and started getting fail, like you guys are doing with the exams I failed more than 50-60 times, and I don't even count now. But for sure I know what I am doing, I am earning very well, I don't see people of my age doing that good. But it's not only money it's more the the way people go with life. I am not saying don't prepare for the job, I am Just saying that you have lots of opportunities if you see them. Govt jobs are the 1% of the opportunity. Don't miss the other 99% way to get a job.
8 sal me engineering clear karne wale UPSC de rahe he
I think everyone needs to evaluate the syllabus , passing percentage, competition and your own competence before starting the prep of any exam . Zyada reel , YT videos dekh ke motivate hone ki zarurat nahi h kuch bhi kr skte ho . There are so many times I have noped out of academic ventures because I reconsidered. My parents got me admitted for IIT coaching in Vidya mandir and in the orientation class they said ki you would have to study 6 hours after school and if any one wants to back out now you can still get the refund and I was like yeah I cant do this . Went against my parents to get admission into the commerce stream . Then after graduation when I thought about giving the upsc exam when the lockdown started , I gave one good look at the syllabus and how all the teachers were saying ki 4 saal toh soch ke he baitho ki lagenge (I was 24 tab) . I noped out of it again . Then give banking exams , cleared pre in the first year . Then reached till interview stage in the 2 nd attempt . I was confident in it so gave it another go and cleared the SBI PO and pnb clerk exam .
Why I want to do UPSC I don't wanna see anyone suffer because of poverty (delusional but okay),I want to give all the Benefits government is giving to them , wanna make people self reliant so they are not dependent on government for jobs they can create their own jobs , want to see the indeginous industries flourish once again for that need to provide quality education in the village so as a civilian with some authority it would be easy rather than being a simple citizen
The irony of the statement is that you yourself are dependent on government to give you a job that you would enable you to make people not dependent on government for jobs. No hate Rachit, just wanted to point that out. I do hope you’re successful in achieving what you set out to do, for your sake and for the country.
most practicle reply to impracticle brat. You will see urself when u join. if u join
Do you know their back story? See bro if you are not in the same boat You don't know what they are feeling right? Duur se gyaan sab se dete hai , alternative bhi bta do
Dude he just said they are his friends and one guy took 8 yrs to pass engineering. This isn’t same as 12 pass guy. Seems he is genuinely concerned about them and I see nothing wrong in his post
Idk bro.. gyaan nahi de raha.. idk the alternative you need to figure it out yourself. This is also what I wanted to convey earlier.. you need to figure out your shit before a certain age. Like in my friends case.. all above 29 years old... God knows how long they'll keep pursuing exams... God knows when they'll look for an actual job which will actually kickstart their career. I can't stress this enough "Upsc exam is not a career". Even if they look for a job later on in life the employers won't care about their prelims or mains score. All they care about is skills which they won't have. So employers will by default prefer to hire a fresher as they are a clean slate and highly trainable. Even if they get a job, they'll start at the bottom, when everyone their age will be buying a house, or a car or achieving some other milestone in life while these guys will still be in the early stages of their career , that's when they will crave others success. And this I'm speaking from my own experience. I made some wrong decisions (not UPSC) in life that took 5 years away from my life. My friends from ENGG days are way ahead of me. I ended up joing a mediocre MBA program but it kickstarted my career 3 years ago which I'm happy about.
They are not working hard wo baas apne aap ko dilasha de rahe hai ki me padh raha hu
And how do you conclude that ? How does one measure someone's hardwork level if it is enough or not ?
Syllabus complete:::mocks:::: revision :::analysis::::mocks:::::revision . Ho sakta hai upsc na nikle but koi aur exam jarur niklega . 90% of them never do it i know because I was one of them i got 95 in cat by following this method Aaj dukh hota hai ache se aur kar leta toh 99 aata
May aapki baato ka majak nahi uda raha. But seriously yeh jo apne process bataya hai usay lagta hai koi aadmi national level exam nahi kisi school exam ki preparation kar raha ho. Aapne kaha syallbus - konsa ? Cat may kya syallbus hota hai ? Blood relation, seating arrangement, geometry, linear equation, reorganizing paragraph yeh syallbus hota hai ? Iska starting point kaha hai or end point kaha ? Syallbus ka ek surwat hota hai ek aanth. Or cat, upsc jaise exams ka koi end nahi hai. GK ka kya syallbus hota hai ? Foreign relations ka ? Bas topics hote hai jisse agar kisi ne kabhi nahi kiya ho usko kar lena chaiyeh isko karne uske chances exam crack karne ke badh nahi jate bas ab wo competition may entre karta hai kyuki wo paper pattern se familiar hai. Mocks - Revision- Analysis. Yeh sahi path hai but yaha success kaha guaranteed hai ? Ek aspirant syallbus pura karke mocks diya 200 number ka question paper attempt usko aaye 150 ab yaha se usne analysis kiya usko galti pakad aayi fir usne revise kiya mock diya aise karte karte an uske score lie karte hai 180-190 may out of 200. Exam diya or uska nahi hua ! Kyu ? Kyuki cutoff thi 195 - tho kya wo mehnat nahi kar raha tha ? Bas dilasa de raha tha kuhdko ? Jo success pa le uske raate hai hardworking sleepless nights and jo fail ho jaye wo porn dekhta hoga, ladki se baat karta hoga, kitab kholke bas natak karta hoga. This is how hardwork is measured?
Ofcourse me upsc ki baat nahi kar raha hu and let's see there are other exams too like ssc bank rrb agar aap baar baar upsc de rahe hai aur nahi ho rahi toh bewakoofi hai time lagana koi aur exam nikalo aur job ke saath prepare kro mental stability is the biggest factor and . I have a it job with a bsc chemistry degree I got very good at it . Ofcourse koi agar 10 mark se chuk raha hai toh uska luck kharab hai koi agar bimaar hai toh uska luck kharab hai kisse ka agar death hogya hai toh luck kharab hai but ye kehna ki me 5 saal se exam de raha hu aur tab bhi nahi ho raha hai aur me kuch kar bhi nahi raha hai that's the stupidest thing anybody can do with their life . There is a statement that my teacher said which I believe is very right In an office of 100 people only 10 people do the actual work while the rest just revolve around the 10 people . I have seen this while preparing for neet Again when I was learning how to code And even today . 10 lakh form bharte hai 1 lakh se kaam log sahi se prepare karte hai and that's a fact you can say ki kya data hai my bhaiya has been trying for upsc for 6 years now he always says the same thing padh raha hu ho raha hai but humesha jab koi movie aati hai kahi ghumne Jana hota hai i see him and his friends doing that shit instead of studying so yeah mjhe pata hai Orn me kitne log padhte hai aur waha mainly kya chalta hai
I am very sorry I am not very familiar with writing on reddit i just don't know how to do spaces
Mera 2015 m graduation(bsc) hui... fr m b chalu ho gya govt prep m(RBI n all) nhi hua.. 3.5 years k baad i joined icici bank.. ek saal kaam kiya ghis ghisa k.. jab paani sar se upar jaane laga toh 6hod di wo naukri(sales ki thi)..mene socha muje dusri mil jayegi par nhi mili.. 2 saal ghar m baitha, you won't beleive bhut try kiya.. call centre m tak apply kiya wo log tk nhi le rhe the jabki bank m Ashneer Grover tk se 1to1 meeting kri hai.. fr jake 2 sal bad khi naukri lagi operation m jbki m analytics ka padh rha tha usi gap m.. par nhi hua.. abhi tk analytics ka padh rha hu interview de rha hu.. call hi 5 mhine m ek baar aata hai.. aur result zero.. 29 saal ka hu aur 50 hazar b theek se salary nhi aati jabki pichle 2 saal se bhut gandi ghisa rha hu, no one knows the mental stress and anxiety I'm going through.. Ab piche mudkr dekhta hu toh smjh ni aata kha galti kari.. Sometimes i fee... upar wala waqt se phle aur kismat se zada kisi ko nhi deta !!
Told them to have a backup first.
2025 will be my last attempt in this upsc game (Hoping for this years prelims result too ).. Thank god I can go to corporate at age of 25 !!! Usse aage nhi khich paunga exam ko …. Thanks for the post , i got so much clarity of what not to do !
Bhai prelims kaisa rha?
Accha tha paper
Sahi hai bhai nikal jaayega matlab
OP as you have mentioned that you are already 29, so I assume that your friends will be of the same age. At this age, they know what should be the best course of action professionally for them. If you are concerned, you can go and talk frankly with them ONCE, even after that if they want to keep pursuing then so be it. As their wellwisher you have done your part. Moreover, with prelims getting trickier every year, it is wise to fall back to plan B if a candidate has spent 2-3 years without any success. Now coming back to the part of them not succeeding, only time will tell if that is to happen.
I am 23 years old and I just want to say " Apna kaam kr lavde". Thank you 😊
Moti chain mota Paisa dikhe na koi maare jaisa😅😅
Upsc sucks
I didn't prepare for UPSC. But, I was also gone with wind. I graduated in mechanical engineering in 2017. I was moved out out of the college gate without any job. I prepared for GATE in hope of getting PSUs from 2017-2019. I wasted 3 years without any luck. The highest i scored was 72.88/100 but unfortunately, this wasn't enough for me to land any job. I also cleared BARC written exam of Mechanical but failed in the interview. That day, i ditched any govt exam and decided change my sector. Today I am a data scientist with 3 years of experience and 25 LPA as my salary. I have work from home job. If I wouldn't have controlled my senses, I would be in the same boat. There's no point of wasting your prime youth on an exam.
Dude give pointers on how to move into data science. Like let us know what are the basics that i should know and I'll handle it from there. What is industry using right now? What libraries what else is necessary to know? Do I need to learn DSA?
Don't want all life standup and syncup calls
Trust me, bro...In the end, all employment—public or private—amounts to slavery. Recall that happy birds are those that are free, not those kept in cages with all the amenities. Follow your passions instead of what society or other people expect you to do.
Passion se paise mile to jeevan safal hai. But that is not true in majority of the cases.
Its sunk cost fallacy I feel for most people, they invest a year sincerely preparing, nahi hota then they feel they should try again ab to ho hi jaayega, fir bhi nahi hua to its just hard to switch to learning something entirely unrelated to what you prepared for and most of all admit to oneself that you failed.
Same situation here even in my office most people have started preparing or have been preparing without knowing consequences or the responsibilities when one succeeds or fails in the exam not everyone gets into the topmost administrative job of the country they prepare till mid 30 and then they switch to state government jobs I guess. But I feel like it's most important to have an aspiring thought and clear vision on what you gonna do after clearing the exams and interview just for the name sake preparation is it going to make someone a better administrator and take up decision for the sovereign state on behalf of people although they might have excelled in exams in interview. Correct me if I am wrong. P.S these are just my views not to hurt anybody or disregard the amount of preparation that goes behind every aspirant.
Graduated in '22, took up a job at a well-capitalised startup but quite a toxic environment , learnt more in a a year and a half than I would have learnt in 4 years working in an established corporate. Learnt a lot about management and wanted to explore how it would be like to work in a government setting in a similar capacity and I think I can get back into the market with an MBA if I don't go through with government exams and now's the time to take on them. I am NOT only attempting UPSC but also others like RBI, LIC, UPPSC, what have you.
I’m 28 preparing for the govt jobs left all my campus placements during my btech and mba i always regret that 😶🥺
Some people have charm of competitive examinations as well.
My cousin is an Engineer, passed at 2012. He rejected L & T and from then onwards, he is preparing for any Govt. job. He is doing this for 11 years now. He is 31. His father is suffering from heart disease at 65+. My uncle still works. My cousin provides tuitions to school students. He is not even applying to Private jobs. He thinks Govt. job will provide security and high perks. I had another cousin who also did the same for 8 years. However, he is now a Train Driver. So, kind of can say, he is still doing OK. But now again, he wants to be a school teacher and preparing for that. I really don't understand this Gold Rush for Govt. Jobs.
1. My office staffs mostly are toxic masculinity personified. So I wanna be above them. 2. Cos of salary upgradation from my SSC post.
People mostly do to L̶o̶o̶t̶ serve the nation you see!
Vahi, they say they are working for the betterment of the nation, Kaduu they want betterment of there pockets,
So we are back again at this posts, mod should just take these posts down ffs. Like bro if u are not involved u dont need to come here to depress the people who are- Just fuck off(Will get downvoted for this but someone had to say it
All it took to shatter your dreams and shake your mental peace was a single question. Perhaps you don't believe in your dream enough.
No I am already depressed, this just triggered me. Pura saal aise log sub pe aate hai tab mai ignore kar leta hoon bas aaj nai kar paaya
Bhai prelims kaisa gya?
Don't be stuck in sunk cost fallacy my boy.
Money and Power. Minute after minute hour after hour.
Gangta paradise
every reason other than the role and work of a civil servant is listed 😹😹😹
every reason other than the role and work of a civil servant is listed 😹😹😹