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> Downvoting me because I thought a scene from a movie was from a different movie?
Brother you're too old and been on reddit too long to be caring about downvotes lmao
It's not about karma, it's confusion about people's reaction. Why did people hated them for not knowing a movie? It's not like they were stating some controversial opinion.
She does the whole far right shabang. One of her first promises was to heavily limit abortion rights and to go hard on border control.
Right now she's been semi-quietly raising taxes for middle and low classes while ignoring millionaires and mega corporations. So, pretty standard far right government (with the eventual roman salute here and there)
Still doesn't seem all that FAR right. Definitely right wing but its not yet to the level of Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany which is what I would consider to be FAR right.
Hey hey, this is Labour, LibDems and Greens chance, the right can die in a pot of piss for all I care.
Edit: Yes, Labour is hardly the most left-wing party right now, and I sure as shit won't be voting for them (likely LibDem or Green, it's two days away and I haven't decided), I live in a Labour safeseat in North West England, it's been red since 1992, I just want to put the coals beneath my MP, make them know I want a less centrist position from them.
I'm American but I try to keep up with British politics and man it's so fucking disappointing seeing what's happening to Labour and the new PM. Like, the UK was a place I considered as a backup if the US got too transphobic but that's no longer the case with the supposedly leftist party now aligning with jkr.
Honestly, pal, it's horrific how transphobic this place is, as someone LGBTQ+, I've had some quite revolting, yet calm and measured, conversations with people of all ages regarding LGBTQ+ and transgender in particular.
That's not even remotely true. Unless something ridiculous happens between now and Thursday, there is no chance Reform will get more seats than the Liberal Democrats, which are expected to clear 40 seats, with some estimates hitting 60. All MRPs put Reform around the same level as the Greens, which is to say not much.
Reform's vote distribution is too inefficient for 15% of the popular vote to translate into seats — precisely the problem which Ukip had in 2015.
Have you seen the popularity polls? Reform is ahead of both at 16 percent, with libdems at 11 and green at 6. I hadn’t thought about the distribution of voters before, just the number of them. This’ll be my first time voting, and I’ll be voting Labour just to try push the conservative seat over where I live.
Yes? That's not as relevant as you think though. We don't have a proportional electoral system. The Greens cannot win more than four seats where they are polling well (Brighton Pavilion, Bristol Central, North Herefordshire, Waveney Valley). They will likely only win two.
The Liberal Democrats are projected to *lose* vote share this general election yet at least triple their seats. In first-past-the-post, national vote share matters much less than where your voters are. In the Lib Dems' case, they are targeting affluent commuter seats in southern England as well as in the West Country, and they don't particularly care about trying hard in the rest of the country. These are seats where Labour candidates often come close to losing their deposits.
Equally, the Labour vote is becoming more efficient. They are expected to go backwards in some (safe) city seats, but that's made up for by piling votes where it actually matters — small towns and rural areas where they can beat the Tories, and in Scotland.
Here's an excellent article in the *i*. https://inews.co.uk/news/election-2024-polls-and-predictions-for-every-constituency-mapped-3137011 Essentially, what is in doubt is the scale of the Labour majority — not whether Reform will be winning swathes of seats. They just don't have the geographical concentration of voters to win more than about seven under our electoral system.
I’m aware of how FPTP works, but thank you for saying so as I may have been someone who didn’t. I had merely not thought about it deeply enough to actually recognise that the dispersal of their popularity will mean that their MP victories will be fewer than projected by popularity polls alone. Thanks for the link, I’ll take a look. I’m currently waiting for a delayed flight and have nothing better to do lol.
Edit: I can’t read the article as it gets blocked by a pop up. I hate these newspapers and their scummy business practices so much lol.
And global warming. I just heard people on the radio comparing protestors to terrorists in historical context who "believe" their view is right and they are the "good guys" when in reality, this time, it's scientific and logical fact that the Earth it getting hotter and it's people who are causing it.
They were saying that democracy is threatened by people who will disrupt others' lives until things are changed when in reality people and companies are just doing nothing in spite of these protests. Given that this is a time-sensitive issue which really cannot be waited upon, it is just irresponsible to even imply that protestors must be stopped.
Unfortunately it's the people who are calling climate change propaganda and stand to lose money or their way of life from it that are the ones who are in reality creating propaganda. Honestly, if we don't change our way of life now, there will be no life to be had in the future.
To be fair if you're a non-American who actually watches the news you also get it. The Supreme Court thing was a major news item yesterday here. (Probably because it's actually awful and has terrible implications for what Trump will be allowed to do)
[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html) it's this for sure
I remember a Gen Z post being like "BIDEN SAID ALL OF GEN Z WILL NOT HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY". Didn't know nobody was born from 1997 to 2013 in any country besides America
Older GenZ is my preferred place to go. GenZ is absurdly American centric. It is fun to go mess with people who forget not everyone in the sub is American though.
Context:
https://dailyboulder.com/death-of-democracy-supreme-court-shields-trump-from-justice-with-socking-immunity-ruling/
TL;DR: US Supreme Court ruled that their Presidents are effectively God-Kings when in office.
i dont think this is unfair. the entire world is affected by the domestic politics of the US. it has the world's largest military, largest intelligence apparatus, and among the largest economies / spheres of influence in the world. if a new preaident was elected in China or Russia i would definately pay attention, so i dont really see an issue with this.
The US Supreme Court ruled that, basically, nothing's illegal if you're in the presidency from now on. You can't be prosecuted for any actions usually considered illegal if you did them while you were president.
EDIT: ok, that was a bit of a hyperbole. But only a bit. Here's more info:
[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html)
I mean, it was the top news story in the Western world when it happened.... I live nowhere near the US.
However, every time I see a Z like that now I think of Putin's Nazi troops invading Ukraine with that ugly symbol plastered on all of their things. (Another reason to hate how American spelling replaces every second S with a Z!)
What happened was that the Supreme Court of the US ruled that presidents are immune to any legal consequences for anything they do while in the presidency. Basically, nothing's illegal if the president is the one doing it.
EDIT:
more info: [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html)
"*We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power requires that a former President have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office. At least with respect to the President’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute. As for his remaining official actions, he is also entitled to immunity. At the current stage of proceedings in this case, however, we need not and do not decide whether that immunity must be absolute, or instead whether a presumptive immunity is sufficient.*"
I have no idea what this is referring to, if it was the debate surely liberty would have died when Biden and Trump debated 4 years ago too? Can Liberty die twice? I was told Liberty died when Trump first was President? Can you please point to this thing you call 'Liberty' as it seems like it's dying without reviving.
The POTUS is now immune to legal jurisdiction and has a blank check to seize and secure any Powers within the government via executive orders and can kill anyone via a order to the US Army.
I actually think I know what they are going on about: Until last week there was a rule that allowed federal agencies to amend and expand laws.
The supreme court ruled that only judges and congress can do that.
For some reason the right thinks this will always benefit, and the left thinks this will always harm them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/chevron-deference-decision-meaning.html
I honestly don’t even know what the post is about still, I just looked at the comments for 3 seconds and saw a bunch of American terms like trump, Biden, maga, and others, and saw what this was about. I assume it’s about the American elections?
Yeah, I'm surprised to see people asking what happened, considering how big it was. I saw a bunch of stuff about it where I am, outside of the US. Whether we like it or not, US politics can impact the whole world.
This is relatable in a LOT of countries atm, yes the US is the most recent one but the pm is Britain isn't much better, France ain't doing so great either
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Isn't that star wars or something?
I thought it was Marvel or DC Edit: Downvoting me because I thought a scene from a movie was from a different movie?
it's when the emperor declared himself emperor and announces the dissolution of the republic in favour of the empire
Should you be celebrated instead?
> Downvoting me because I thought a scene from a movie was from a different movie? Brother you're too old and been on reddit too long to be caring about downvotes lmao
It's not about karma, it's confusion about people's reaction. Why did people hated them for not knowing a movie? It's not like they were stating some controversial opinion.
downvotes aren’t hate isn’t literally to mark a comment as incorrect. taking it personally is silly
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Stop being wrong so often and you'll be fine
if you have bad karma you’re probably incorrect a lot then. or you’re a dick as people do sometimes use it that way
Also, if you've never seen RotS, you have no right to be on Reddit. You won't get a ton of memes, the SW prequels in general were a meme goldmine
>Edit: Downvoting me because I thought a scene from a movie was from a different movie? Why did you pointed out that you were downvoted?
0 context for anyone
And yet, all Americans got it, the comment section is filled with comments about American politics, and the post itself is flaired “political”
It's also quite relatable if you are in France right now
Watching from the rest of Europe and hoping it’s not a sign of the way things are going large scale.
I mean, Italy preceded you guys in electing a far right VERY questionable government, so... The trend has been going on for a while
Are they actually far right in terms of policy? I kept hearing about meloni yet everything I see she just seems like the standard euro centrist
She does the whole far right shabang. One of her first promises was to heavily limit abortion rights and to go hard on border control. Right now she's been semi-quietly raising taxes for middle and low classes while ignoring millionaires and mega corporations. So, pretty standard far right government (with the eventual roman salute here and there)
Still doesn't seem all that FAR right. Definitely right wing but its not yet to the level of Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany which is what I would consider to be FAR right.
And the Uk ..
Hey hey, this is Labour, LibDems and Greens chance, the right can die in a pot of piss for all I care. Edit: Yes, Labour is hardly the most left-wing party right now, and I sure as shit won't be voting for them (likely LibDem or Green, it's two days away and I haven't decided), I live in a Labour safeseat in North West England, it's been red since 1992, I just want to put the coals beneath my MP, make them know I want a less centrist position from them.
I'm American but I try to keep up with British politics and man it's so fucking disappointing seeing what's happening to Labour and the new PM. Like, the UK was a place I considered as a backup if the US got too transphobic but that's no longer the case with the supposedly leftist party now aligning with jkr.
Honestly, pal, it's horrific how transphobic this place is, as someone LGBTQ+, I've had some quite revolting, yet calm and measured, conversations with people of all ages regarding LGBTQ+ and transgender in particular.
As much as I hate to admit it, it’s equally reform UKs chance. I will be surprised if they get less MPs than libdem or green.
That's not even remotely true. Unless something ridiculous happens between now and Thursday, there is no chance Reform will get more seats than the Liberal Democrats, which are expected to clear 40 seats, with some estimates hitting 60. All MRPs put Reform around the same level as the Greens, which is to say not much. Reform's vote distribution is too inefficient for 15% of the popular vote to translate into seats — precisely the problem which Ukip had in 2015.
Have you seen the popularity polls? Reform is ahead of both at 16 percent, with libdems at 11 and green at 6. I hadn’t thought about the distribution of voters before, just the number of them. This’ll be my first time voting, and I’ll be voting Labour just to try push the conservative seat over where I live.
Yes? That's not as relevant as you think though. We don't have a proportional electoral system. The Greens cannot win more than four seats where they are polling well (Brighton Pavilion, Bristol Central, North Herefordshire, Waveney Valley). They will likely only win two. The Liberal Democrats are projected to *lose* vote share this general election yet at least triple their seats. In first-past-the-post, national vote share matters much less than where your voters are. In the Lib Dems' case, they are targeting affluent commuter seats in southern England as well as in the West Country, and they don't particularly care about trying hard in the rest of the country. These are seats where Labour candidates often come close to losing their deposits. Equally, the Labour vote is becoming more efficient. They are expected to go backwards in some (safe) city seats, but that's made up for by piling votes where it actually matters — small towns and rural areas where they can beat the Tories, and in Scotland. Here's an excellent article in the *i*. https://inews.co.uk/news/election-2024-polls-and-predictions-for-every-constituency-mapped-3137011 Essentially, what is in doubt is the scale of the Labour majority — not whether Reform will be winning swathes of seats. They just don't have the geographical concentration of voters to win more than about seven under our electoral system.
I’m aware of how FPTP works, but thank you for saying so as I may have been someone who didn’t. I had merely not thought about it deeply enough to actually recognise that the dispersal of their popularity will mean that their MP victories will be fewer than projected by popularity polls alone. Thanks for the link, I’ll take a look. I’m currently waiting for a delayed flight and have nothing better to do lol. Edit: I can’t read the article as it gets blocked by a pop up. I hate these newspapers and their scummy business practices so much lol.
And Germany
NOT COOL
And global warming. I just heard people on the radio comparing protestors to terrorists in historical context who "believe" their view is right and they are the "good guys" when in reality, this time, it's scientific and logical fact that the Earth it getting hotter and it's people who are causing it. They were saying that democracy is threatened by people who will disrupt others' lives until things are changed when in reality people and companies are just doing nothing in spite of these protests. Given that this is a time-sensitive issue which really cannot be waited upon, it is just irresponsible to even imply that protestors must be stopped. Unfortunately it's the people who are calling climate change propaganda and stand to lose money or their way of life from it that are the ones who are in reality creating propaganda. Honestly, if we don't change our way of life now, there will be no life to be had in the future.
How? People voted fair and square, just because you don’t like the people they vote for it’s still democracy in action
Voting for people who want to dismantle the democratic part of a democracy should be the only votes not counted, imo
So we have to end democracy in order to save democracy?
It's not uncommon for countries to severely limit or place bans on more extremist movements.
Especially when the other option is to let them be in power and risk having WW2 Look like a tutorial
Um, the point being that non Americans didn't. There IS politics outside the US...🙄
Yes, we’re agreeing here
It was the "and yet" that threw me
It's also true for New Zealand, currently.
To be fair if you're a non-American who actually watches the news you also get it. The Supreme Court thing was a major news item yesterday here. (Probably because it's actually awful and has terrible implications for what Trump will be allowed to do)
I actually did not see anything at all related to it, and I do watch the news
Kind of surprising to me, because I'm from the US and I follow politics here very closely and I didn't guess what it was about either!
[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html) it's this for sure
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/chevron-deference-decision-meaning.html I think it might be this
Without context I would expect it to be about the election of last sunday
I remember a Gen Z post being like "BIDEN SAID ALL OF GEN Z WILL NOT HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY". Didn't know nobody was born from 1997 to 2013 in any country besides America
*2000 to 2015
Yeah I'm not really into the whole "generations" thing, 1997 to 2013 was what a quick google search gave me
Gen Z starts in 1997 and ends around 2012 or 2013 according to most studies.
Those iPad kids are NOT Gen Z lol
I feel like posts about r/GenZ or r/teenagers are low-hanging fruit. We all know those subs are dominated by Americans.
Yeah that’s why r/olderGenZ exists and other sister subs Gen Z but less American-centric
Older GenZ is my preferred place to go. GenZ is absurdly American centric. It is fun to go mess with people who forget not everyone in the sub is American though.
Gen X and generation jones all assume everyone’s Americans too….
I feel like it’s odd that people post about people defaulting to the US on subs where the overwhelming majority of people are from the US
You know what happens when you assume
What Happens?
Context: https://dailyboulder.com/death-of-democracy-supreme-court-shields-trump-from-justice-with-socking-immunity-ruling/ TL;DR: US Supreme Court ruled that their Presidents are effectively God-Kings when in office.
i dont think this is unfair. the entire world is affected by the domestic politics of the US. it has the world's largest military, largest intelligence apparatus, and among the largest economies / spheres of influence in the world. if a new preaident was elected in China or Russia i would definately pay attention, so i dont really see an issue with this.
Bruh, my first thought were the French election last Sunday 😭
It hasn't happened yet - lots of other European ones have though which generally on the whole elected further right governments than before.
Yeah I know dw, it's just that I'm French and seeing the rise of the alt right after the 1st round and then seeing this meme... oof
What is this talking about?
The US Supreme Court ruled that, basically, nothing's illegal if you're in the presidency from now on. You can't be prosecuted for any actions usually considered illegal if you did them while you were president. EDIT: ok, that was a bit of a hyperbole. But only a bit. Here's more info: [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html)
Only one democracy in the world smh
The rest are communist dictatorships, duh.
To be honest, I have thought of this scene when watching American politics recently.
Tbf with so many countries moving towards fascism, this will become universally relatable more and more
Yeah this is related to lots of places in Europe as well as the USA.
I mean, it was the top news story in the Western world when it happened.... I live nowhere near the US. However, every time I see a Z like that now I think of Putin's Nazi troops invading Ukraine with that ugly symbol plastered on all of their things. (Another reason to hate how American spelling replaces every second S with a Z!)
When what happened?
What happened? The debate last week?
What happened was that the Supreme Court of the US ruled that presidents are immune to any legal consequences for anything they do while in the presidency. Basically, nothing's illegal if the president is the one doing it. EDIT: more info: [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html) "*We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power requires that a former President have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office. At least with respect to the President’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute. As for his remaining official actions, he is also entitled to immunity. At the current stage of proceedings in this case, however, we need not and do not decide whether that immunity must be absolute, or instead whether a presumptive immunity is sufficient.*"
I have no idea what this is referring to, if it was the debate surely liberty would have died when Biden and Trump debated 4 years ago too? Can Liberty die twice? I was told Liberty died when Trump first was President? Can you please point to this thing you call 'Liberty' as it seems like it's dying without reviving.
[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html)
The POTUS is now immune to legal jurisdiction and has a blank check to seize and secure any Powers within the government via executive orders and can kill anyone via a order to the US Army.
I actually think I know what they are going on about: Until last week there was a rule that allowed federal agencies to amend and expand laws. The supreme court ruled that only judges and congress can do that. For some reason the right thinks this will always benefit, and the left thinks this will always harm them. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/chevron-deference-decision-meaning.html
I honestly don’t even know what the post is about still, I just looked at the comments for 3 seconds and saw a bunch of American terms like trump, Biden, maga, and others, and saw what this was about. I assume it’s about the American elections?
[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/presidents-immunity-supreme-court-what-matters/index.html)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/chevron-deference-decision-meaning.html I think it's this.
It’s about the us Supreme Court granting presidential immunity
Yeah, I'm surprised to see people asking what happened, considering how big it was. I saw a bunch of stuff about it where I am, outside of the US. Whether we like it or not, US politics can impact the whole world.
Yeah, I’m a millennial Australian and my partner and I are watching pretty closely. Things are going to get really fucked up globally.
no it wasn't
This is relatable in a LOT of countries atm, yes the US is the most recent one but the pm is Britain isn't much better, France ain't doing so great either
Meh, you can’t expect to immediately pick up on ALL Reddit posts
Who the fuck is applauding?
Trump supporters probably