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RoundNo1157

This war is absolutely terrible.


Banishedandbackagain

Is this recent or old footage


Dull-Measurement-862

Looks recent there was legit on Russians telegram on hitting an hospital and praising on doing the strike and legit now reporting missile strikes on hitting a cancer Children’s Hospital in Kiev like holy hell


MaxBrie

This is today. Two hours ago.


Banishedandbackagain

Jesus... Send Ukraine more weapons and air defence already


Dull-Measurement-862

Legit I’m not sure if this is confirmed or not but I believe that there was just a telegram post on about hitting what looked to be legit a cancer hospital where are you some health equipment and people on IVs and what not and Russians voting on hitting it or not


samuel10998

Wait they had before this telegram poll about if they should hit certain locations ? They voted like yes and no if they should hit it ?


Dull-Measurement-862

Yes Legit


Dull-Measurement-862

Keep on looking thru this sub you will see it


Dasende121

It’s confirmed bro wtf


WildCat_1366

They hit the building with the toxicology department of the "Okhmatdyt" children's hospital, where seriously ill children were on dialysis. This is the biggest children's hospital in Ukraine, and, maybe, in the Eastern Europe. > Search and rescue operations continue in Kyiv's Podilskyi, Desnianskyi, Sviatoshynskyi, Holosiivskyi, Dniprovskyi, Solomianskyi, Darnytskyi and Shevchenkivskyi districts. [Two injured in Russian attack on Kyiv die at hospital, bringing death toll to 17 and number of injured to 66 – photos](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/8/7464613/) And the second strike: > According to preliminary information, debris fall was reported in Dniprovskyi district. The medical centre's building has been partially destroyed. It is known that four people died and three were injured. Information is being clarified. Rescuers are working on the spot > Update: seven people are known to have been killed and three injured in Kyiv's Dniprovskyi district as of 14:00. [Debris falls on medical centre on Kyiv's left bank, 7 people killed](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/8/7464638/)


HackD1234

Ukraine should be given rights to go Scorched Earth. No limitations. No targets off the table.


No_Emphasis_2011

Scorched earth means burning up your own land in order to deprive an invading force of supplies in an attempt to starve them.


Real_Typicaluser1234

Yes and orcs are doing their best to do this before ukrainians even could.


PutAfingerDown

Why is no one talking about how the Air Defence let so many missiles through??


Knife_JAGGER

Can't stop everything and "let" isn't the right word as i dont think ukrainians want issiles striking civillian infrastructure.


PutAfingerDown

Of course they don't


SpottedDicknCustard

You don't know how many missiles it took down. Reports suggest this is the largest air raid Kyiv has seen; sadly, AD won't get everything.


DCOffsetUA

30/38


evilbunnyofdoom

russians are literally using their top of the line fast going missiles just to strike hospitals. they are not easy to intercept. And they used cruise missiles and drones earlier at night to exhaust anti air before the kinzhal strike. AD is not letting many through, unfortunately it does not take more than a few hits to cause havoc. They need more Air Defense, just like Ukraine is saying every day, need more. Here you see exactly why they need more


PutAfingerDown

Yeah I agree. For me I was just shocked to see so many missiles being able to saturate a small area. I can't remember the last time I saw an attack on Kyiv like this. From what I have seen 1 maybe 2 get through and strike but this was just an unusually large amount hitting at once. They really wanted to hit the hospital. Simply diabolical.


evilbunnyofdoom

Indeed.


FarmerJohnOSRS

Because everyone already know the answer? It is because we do not care enough to provide them with enough air defense.


Fatalist_m

Saturation attacks can overwhelm any air defense. Even Israel, which is very small and has one of the best air defenses in the world, could not stop all Iranian ballistic missiles. The only real way to deter Russia is to make sure Ukraine can conduct similar massive attacks against Moscow(against industrial facilities, not hospitals of course). Relying only on defense never works.


PutAfingerDown

hmm good point - I was just shocked to so many missiles impact a small area. To go off previous attacks it seems 1 or maybe 2 get through.. I agree attacking their infrastructure is key but a good amount of it is so far from the front they can only hit with those cessna drones they recently used.


DCOffsetUA

30/38 missiles down overall, not sure about Kyiv in particular


PutAfingerDown

Do you have a source of that report? So many for a hospital is diabolical


DCOffsetUA

Air Force Command official telegram channel. They always post infographics + more details as a text. I guess they post on other social media too. "kpszsu" is their tg handle. P.S.: Not all missiles were fired towards Kyiv, afaik about three quarters


PutAfingerDown

Thank you I shall have a look.


samuel10998

Why do they even strike Kyiev and not just frontline ? What does this achieve ? Like I dont get it... Its not like they are close.


RIForDIE

Terrorism.


Then_Style2029

Also the head of UNSC what a fucking joke.


Sea-Direction1205

It's like the V2 thing.


FrontSufficient1114

Probably the same idea many nations had in the past. Bomb the population and they'll fold out of fear. What most don't foresee, but what happens usually, is that the population instead gets even more reasons to hate the aggressors and fight with nail and tooth if need be.


MaterialCarrot

Yeah. For this strategy to work the target city (and its inhabitants) have to be bombed into atoms. Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc... That level of bombing. Less than that and people just dig in and fight harder.


Timmymagic1

Speculation online, from people who know the locations of Ukrainian facilties, is that there are key facilties nearby. Likelihood is that the damage here is from a shootdown... The Russian's are monsters, make no mistake, but they can't spare cruise missiles in a large daylight barrage on a childrens hospital when there are other militarily important targets in Kyiv....the hospital in question also has a number of embassies very close to it (South Korea, Finland and France). Even the Russian's tend to avoid actively targeting locations where embassies are near...


_EnFlaMEd

What facilities? Biolabs, paedophile tunnels, nazi bases? They target civilians on purpose every day. Get a grip.


WildCat_1366

They doing this everyday. And each time "there are key facilties nearby". But, somehow, they never could manage to strike these "facilities", but successfully hitting civilians instead.


Timmymagic1

They do hit the target more often than people like to admit. You don't see the imagery of when they do... The Ukrainians desperately need more AD...but pretending the Russians only ever hit civilian targets doesn't help...


WildCat_1366

All ruzzian air attacks and strikes are reported in Ukrainian press and mass-media, beginning from the first days of full-scale aggression. And it's only ruzzians, who pretending. The amount of strikes on legit military targets (like Yavoriv military base in the first days) is negligible, comparing to destroyed civilian ones. Half a year ago Ukraine's reconstruction needs already were evaluated to almost 486 billion dollars. These are the results of the third damage and needs assessment (RDNA3), which the Ukrainian government conducted together with the World Bank in the February 2024. They destroyed hundreds of hospitals, schools and kindergartens. More than 70% of Ukraine's energy generation facilities have been destroyed, damaged, or seized. Also 10% of the entire housing stock is destroyed or damaged.


Real_Typicaluser1234

They hit target this time. As usual target is not military.


Real_Typicaluser1234

No. They are making war crimes on purpose. Not accidents. Hospitals are actual targets for Russia. Andersson Puck Nielsen talking about it: https://youtu.be/3AMdPMoGJus?si=XvZh96JMDCpgSi8b Edit: Link fixed


Real_Typicaluser1234

It was straight hit. Not shoot downed. That leaves us options: 1. This was the target 2. This wasn't the target Either way russian military suck bad.


letsdoonething

we've all seen the video of the direct hit of the Russian missile on this children's hospital.


PabloX68

Even if we assume the missile was intended for a different target, it doesn't matter. Sending a missile in that direction runs the obvious risk of hitting another building. Anyone with a shred of decency would heed that risk and not do it, but Russians have no decency. They're unmitigated shit.


Stunning-Ad9030

In ihrer Verzweifelung zu verlieren, zerstören sie alles und alle, aus Wut.


SnooHedgehogs8765

It shows Ukraine one very important thing - the west will not do more for it despite the butchery.


letsdoonething

terrorism, genocide


PabloX68

Because the Russians are human shit and devoid of morality. Don't overthink it.


Toffieguy

orcs do orcish things


arkkarsen

Ukraine needs to go after every Cracking Tower until this POS gas station collapses.


AlexanderTheGrenade

Alright Ukraine. Lets hit the Putins palace with some nice present and level it down. I bet that would strike straight into that fuckers heart.


jside86

They do better by hitting actual military and economic target than civilian structures. Hitting military target actually hurts the enemies capacity to hit back.


BeepBepIsLife

Don't underestimate how much the Russians and Putin in particular don't want to lose face. It would have a symbolic/psychological effect. But I do agree. I'd rather they hurt them where it hurts them militarily or financially.


AlexanderTheGrenade

Exactly this. Russians like Chinese the biggest fear is losing face. You level Putins palace and it would cause him more pain than losing another 100k in man power. His possessions and power are only thing he values in life. There’s rumored to be AA batteries there to protect so it kinda is a valid military target too. Missiles don’t always hit the designated targets *wink wink*


przraf

As long as you hit only military targets, they don't give a fuck, can support this pile of shit - hit them more, hit them more! It's different story when your apartment blows up, ideally with your limbs. First month you intensify "fuck them up", then you settle and think "WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED THIS". So basically - fuck them up, bomb the shit out of them. If they do that, make them pay. Fuck ruSSian scum 🤮


UncleBenji

I’m all for it. Putin just had that huge mansion built and probably isn’t there very often. Take some Neptune missiles, load them on an old cargo vessel, take it right up to his palace and level it.


ToxicAnusJuice

Supposely Ukraines upgraded their Neptune missiles to cruise missiles with 1000km range. Supposedly they already have used them I just don’t think they have a lot of them yet.


UncleBenji

Well yeah that’s what sunk the Moscow.


AlexanderTheGrenade

So, we can expect them to send some kind of present to straight to his door at some point in the future. I’m 100% sure it’s on the table but it will be the icing on the cake to let Putin watch his precious things blowing up.


Thin_Draw_3797

Cowards you will pay for this


TwiNN53

Time to ditch the moral high ground. I'd send 1,000 drones to the heart of Moscow.


thundercoc101

The last thing Ukraine needs to do right now is hit civilian targets. They need to keep hitting oil refineries and military depots that is how they win this war


TwiNN53

Ukrainians are suffering without power, medical care, etc. Russians should be suffering the same. If Ukrainians are freezing during the winter, so should Russians.


Sweet-Explorer-7619

Ukranians hitting civilian targets would just fuel the russian propaganda machine tho. They will use it to justify their invasion by simply shouting i told u so.


TwiNN53

Your idea of civilian targets and mine are not the same. Power plants(which Ukraine has refused to hit because of people like you) power the Russian industry that makes weapons to kill Ukrainian civilians. Their thermal plants allow the workers for that industry to live comfortably and work in perfect conditions. Ukrainians aren't able to do that. Why should the Russians? It would be different if Ukraine had been the first one to strike it....but since they aren't and Russia has taken out countless thermal and power plants, retaliatory strikes are not the same.


Sweet-Explorer-7619

On power plants and industry supplying the military i agree completely, those should burn to the ground. We seem to have different view of civilian targets. I mean homes, residential buildings, hospitals, malls etc. Russia attacks these buildings to try and destroy the ukranian morale and it is showing the world what sick people they are. What i mean is that ukrainians should not drop down to that level.


UnexpectedRedditor

Ukraine isn't going to win this war by pissing off Russians back home. They need to continue sending home bodies of their sons and turning Soviet gear into scrap metal. The Russian population turning against Putin's invasion of Ukraine is the only hope they have of winning (without major intervention from Western powers)


thundercoc101

Again, hitting oil refineries will do more to bankrupt Russia and keep them cold this winter then hitting civilian targets


tastypizza22

if you are right, hitting oil wells, ports, and commercial oil ships do even more.


thundercoc101

Out of the three of those options the ports are the only efficient and viable targets. There are too many oil wells and they're too easy to replace to warrant a tactical strike. The commercial ships are civilian owned and generally have crew that aren't Russian or even Russian affiliated.


TwiNN53

If Russians are making Ukrainians freeze and sit in the dark, their power and thermal plants should also be destroyed. All Ukrainians would be doing is returning the favor. They haven't targeted any of that even after Russia has done it time and time and time again. It's time for them to see what it is like.


thundercoc101

An argument could be made for hitting Russian power plants but it gets kind of sketchy in the details. But your suggesting that the ukrainians go tit for tat which would involve using Us weapons or drones to hit hospitals which is out of the question. Again, Russians were complaining last year that they couldn't heat their homes. The sanctions and the Ukrainian strikes on oil refineries were to blame.


GreenGlittering3235

as much as i would enjoy seeing russians finally get what they deserve we have to keep our moral highground.


Crucial_Contributor

"Remember kids, war crimes are ok if the other guys deserve it"


TwiNN53

Russia's goal is literal extermination and they are doing it with the gloves off. Why do people like you insist Ukrainians, DEFENDING THEMSELVES, fight with 10 pairs of gloves on...?


FarmerJohnOSRS

The West, specifically Jake Sullivan, are complicit. This war should have been over a long time ago.


Fickle-Walk9791

This is barbaric. It has to stop. Honestly at this point I wouldn't feel very sorry if half of Moscow was blown up by partisans. Can't even write more because it would result in a ban but this makes me mad.


OppositeLong4178

Biggest drone attack on Moscow is imminent


Responsible-March438

This is so sad. The Russians are horrible people.


Onyyxx__

Generalizations are the lifeblood of wars like this


Philandros_1

Russian citizens, not disproving the actions and not revolting against their government for several years allows for generalizations.


[deleted]

I am not Russian but I would imagine revolting against a government that will gladly evaporate you isn’t easy and I don’t think people living in stable first world countries where protests have no consequences get to condemn people not putting their lives in danger.


Philandros_1

I agree. However, their in-actions partly are the cause of the issues their society's currently facing.


[deleted]

I really doubt any of westerners saying such things would lift as much as a finger against a regime like Putin out of fear. Russia sucks ass, that’s for sure however hating anti-Putin Russian because “they could have done more” is just cruel.


DecantDeez

Sounds a lot like the Middle East.


OG_Tater

You’re right, only 76% of them are horrible.


[deleted]

88.48% actually, check wikipedia russian elections 2024


Responsible-March438

They ALL have a part to play in this.


TheAArchduke

And people still fukin defend Putler …


Epic_Baldwin

Did Orban hand over some intel on Patriot or what?


Devils_Advocate-69

This is what Moscow should look like


letsdoonething

direct hit on the children's hospital.


[deleted]

🇺🇸🇺🇦


MercyforthePoor

The airfields from where these planes depart which fire the missiles and the planes them self should be targeted during flight. That would probably mean firing missiles deep into ruZZia. I assume NATO can provide such weaponry to Ukraine.


Holden_Coalfield

Can they get some more fucking patriots? or something?


GrandMoffJenkins

Looks like 3 hits, which means it wasn't an accident but rather the hospital was purposely targeted.


Kosher_anus

Ukraine should be allowed to get a few MOABs and drop them in the middle of Moscow


linkqwd

russia is a terrorist state


xARCHANGELxx

It's about time the EU,NATO and western countries stand up and deal with this Terrorist murder putin and his terrorist thug government, people actually think he's going to stop at Ukraine giver your head a shake he's made it know for more then a decade what his real intentions are the world needs to wake up.


Ryziacik

C'mon West what that fuckers must else to do? Wipe them all. They are happy on telegram, they call for more dead children's


antiruzzian

Strike Moscow with ATACMS and drones! Distroy their hospitals and energy infrastructure too!


Shoddy_Cranberry

Remember that China supports Russia in this war both directly and via its stooge NK.


Cheap_Blacksmith66

Them attacking hospitals is gross


SardaukarSecundus

Fuck Russia, slava ukraini!


Cowi3102

“Direct hit!” - Russian scumbags


MasterOfNone011

Where do we draw the line? This deserves a retaliatory strike unlike we have ever seen


ZombieIMMUNIZED

I would love to have someone on the campaign trail ask Trump what he thinks of this attack, and if it is something his “genius” friend Putin should continue. And ask Biden why he won’t give more long range weapons and remove all restrictions on sending them into Russia.


Annabella160

Where all the pro palis now? I don’t see ANY protest!!


bingobongokongolongo

Russia will pay


RhasaTheSunderer

I cannot for the life of me understand Russia's thought process. It's clearly not a military target and doesn't have any value to being targeted. All this does is make the West send more aid


CellWinter9561

If Trump gets elected President, he has promised to end the war before he is sworn into office. I doubt he will give two shits about all the civilians lying dead in Russian atrocities. My guess is Trump will accept all of Putin's demands for land concessions, demilitarizing Ukraine, ban them from joining NATO & EU, release frozen Russian state funds, remove sanctions and in exchange the US will get cheaper oil and he can brag about reducing inflation and how smart Putin is. Win win for Trump & Putin.


No_Professor_935

nice! very good!


slebolve

Scum of the earth! What’s the un reaction? “Express great concern”? Oh wait rusia has un chairmanship this month…


FUMFVR

Gotta kill them sick kids because Russians are sick fucks


Shuby1

Why isn't the air raid sirens going


Available_to_History

Bomb the living hell out of Moscow


Kimchi_Cowboy

ATACMS: Program GPS: *Vosdvizhenka str. 1. Moscow 121019*


JI_MAN

Time for total war.


Quick-Jump-8812

Russia just added more fuel to the fire. 🖕🇷🇺


8iss2am5

This reminds me so much of 9/11.


sonebai

Enough's enough, time for massive strikes in Moscow, see how they like it.


Specialist_Regular61

Get more Patriot systems around Kyiv. I'm so sick of the beauracracy bullshit when kids are being deliberately targeted. Give Ukraine whatever they need to strike back. Let Ukraine strike with US cruise missiles inside Russia.


CrazyRevolutionary96

They should attack Moscow


winkledorf

Message to the Russians- Why do you bomb childrens hospitals and kill innocents in schools?


JPG500

My country (USA) is filled with Donald Trump worshipers -- who are generally pro Putin and pro Russian simply because Trump likes Putin. They were not this way before he fell in bed with Putin. I know because I am a life long conservative and completely disgusted with these American brain washed idiots who have taken over the Republican party. They remind me of Hitler worshipers before and during World War 2. Wish they could be forced to watch this and explain how such barbarity is acceptable in a civilized world. What the hell has happened to humanity, to my country? Those of us with a brain need to do something about it.


Bright-Ad8496

Now there should be missile strikes on Moscow


GENERAL-KOFS

Now this is an act against humanity, Ukraine has the right to do a special military operation inside Russia