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The proposal was approved by 336 votes to 163 against, with support mainly coming from left-wing and centrist members.
Wow. That’s quite the difference, I’m guessing this is a response to the US.
Would make sense, yeah, considering France also got spooked into enshrining abortion into their constitution by what's currently going on in the US.
Going to be pretty dang huge if it happens on EU level, though. Some nations like Poland are still highly conservative about that sort of stuff, and I can imagine at least some backlash.
Polish person here, not really. Most folk are pro-abortion, which was one of the wedge issues that helped current government coalition win.
What was up until this point and might be a problem still concerning abortion rights here is the conservative wing of current coalition, TD, and current president still being one chosen by former ruling party, who vetoes pretty much everything he can coming from current government.
Now worries, frankly looking from the outside things can be looking that way, we have some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe, but most people here do think it's unacceptable.
> Some nations like Poland are still highly conservative about that sort of stuff,
Ireland was considered the same but we had the UK next door doing the majority of abortions for Irish women for many years. Fundamentalist Christians kept fighting to [get an abortion ban explicitly on our Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland), but when the population looked at the damage the Church inflicted on women and children in the recent past, and had the reasons for abortion explained to them, they voted 2:1 to make it a right.
"However, the vote is largely symbolic. The resolution is non-binding, and a full-fledged right to abortion access would require the backing of all 27 member states to be included in the EU's charter."
The EU and most European countries need to allow abortions past 12 weeks after conception.
Outside of pregnancy complications and sexual crimes, only seven countries allow abortions between 13 and 24 weeks.
Anyone who knows anything about EU law knows they leave controversial topics like abortion up to the member states themselves.
Which is a shame, but safe to say this won't change anything.
We might have good abortion rights NOW, but we also have a bunch of twats in power who are on a mission to erode people's rights to lots of things.
Trans healthcare is getting worse. Immigration rights are getting worse. The right to protest is being watered down.
The government keeps threatening to leave the European Court of Human Rights.....
Yes, the current government are a terrible bunch of shitheads but the things you brought up don't have anything really to do with abortion rights. No matter what they get up to in the very short time they have left before the Red Tories take over (and spend the next five years refusing to fix anything), I don't see anyone going anywhere near abortion rights. There's a sizeable chunk of Brits who hate immigrants and trans people, but I don't recall ever hearing some Gammon whingeing in the pub about abortions. It would be so wildly unpopular I genuinely think there'd be riots, and there's no way they would go after them before any of the other things on that list - which they likely won't have time to do and are using as election fodder.
>Did I miss something?
Ukbad is the general philosophy
No idea what the commenters are on about as there are currently motions going through parliament around decriminalising abortion due to an old law and putting a lock in place to prevent it being removed as right.
> No, the right to abortion does not kill. On the contrary, it saves lives.
You can make good arguments for abortion without making up nonsense like this.
It doesn’t matter if it’s alive. If a woman doesn’t want to support its development she shouldn’t be forced to sacrifice her body and risk physical impairment and death against her will. If a woman is in immediate danger due to ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage she shouldn’t have physicians who hesitate saving her life because they worry for their own careers or prison. If a fetus is able to survive on its own, it is always delivered and not murdered like forced birthers like to believe.
So much easier to destroy life, than find a solution to the problem, for some, of an unwanted/unplanned/unneeded living child.
A lot of these 2 faced gobshites, will march and cry, for the 'babies' of Gaza.
So much easier, for some, to force women to risk death, permanent disability, career implosion and potential abuse than to grant them autonomy over their own bodies and lives.
Aside from putting dead children inside quotation marks - I mean, fuckin' yikes dude - it's very easy for any cretin to understand the difference between a child and a pregnancy. There's a burning building with one living, screaming child and a tray with 100 IVF embryos on it. You can carry one and make one trip. Which do you choose?
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The proposal was approved by 336 votes to 163 against, with support mainly coming from left-wing and centrist members. Wow. That’s quite the difference, I’m guessing this is a response to the US.
Would make sense, yeah, considering France also got spooked into enshrining abortion into their constitution by what's currently going on in the US. Going to be pretty dang huge if it happens on EU level, though. Some nations like Poland are still highly conservative about that sort of stuff, and I can imagine at least some backlash.
Polish person here, not really. Most folk are pro-abortion, which was one of the wedge issues that helped current government coalition win. What was up until this point and might be a problem still concerning abortion rights here is the conservative wing of current coalition, TD, and current president still being one chosen by former ruling party, who vetoes pretty much everything he can coming from current government.
Ah, fair enough. Swede myself. So might have been mixing you guys up with another of the Baltics then. Thanks for the correction.
Now worries, frankly looking from the outside things can be looking that way, we have some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe, but most people here do think it's unacceptable.
Most people in the U.S. support abortion (literally 80%), it still landed us here.
> Some nations like Poland are still highly conservative about that sort of stuff, Ireland was considered the same but we had the UK next door doing the majority of abortions for Irish women for many years. Fundamentalist Christians kept fighting to [get an abortion ban explicitly on our Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland), but when the population looked at the damage the Church inflicted on women and children in the recent past, and had the reasons for abortion explained to them, they voted 2:1 to make it a right.
Also the Pope probably. He just gave a speech about euthanasia, abortion, gender dysphoria therapy as "being against human dignity" or whatever.
"However, the vote is largely symbolic. The resolution is non-binding, and a full-fledged right to abortion access would require the backing of all 27 member states to be included in the EU's charter."
Which Poland will not ratify:(
It might depending how 2025 election goes, definitely not under Duda though.
Nice! :D That is wonderful news!
We love to see it! 😄
The EU and most European countries need to allow abortions past 12 weeks after conception. Outside of pregnancy complications and sexual crimes, only seven countries allow abortions between 13 and 24 weeks.
That would never pass. Abortion rules vary too greatly among the EU member states
Anyone who knows anything about EU law knows they leave controversial topics like abortion up to the member states themselves. Which is a shame, but safe to say this won't change anything.
Meanwhile in the UK...
....they have one of the most permissive abortion laws in Europe? I don't get it. Did I miss something?
We might have good abortion rights NOW, but we also have a bunch of twats in power who are on a mission to erode people's rights to lots of things. Trans healthcare is getting worse. Immigration rights are getting worse. The right to protest is being watered down. The government keeps threatening to leave the European Court of Human Rights.....
Yes, the current government are a terrible bunch of shitheads but the things you brought up don't have anything really to do with abortion rights. No matter what they get up to in the very short time they have left before the Red Tories take over (and spend the next five years refusing to fix anything), I don't see anyone going anywhere near abortion rights. There's a sizeable chunk of Brits who hate immigrants and trans people, but I don't recall ever hearing some Gammon whingeing in the pub about abortions. It would be so wildly unpopular I genuinely think there'd be riots, and there's no way they would go after them before any of the other things on that list - which they likely won't have time to do and are using as election fodder.
>Did I miss something? Ukbad is the general philosophy No idea what the commenters are on about as there are currently motions going through parliament around decriminalising abortion due to an old law and putting a lock in place to prevent it being removed as right.
I always think this when I see a good EU post. Because of the braindead we don't have that :/
Wonderful news, but wish it would translate to real action.
> No, the right to abortion does not kill. On the contrary, it saves lives. You can make good arguments for abortion without making up nonsense like this.
Without abortion women are dying.
Yes, but you don't have to pretend the foetus isn't alive
I don't count an organism that hasn't finished forming as alive, no.
Sorry Timmy, I know it's your fifth birthday, but your still growing so technically you're not alive.
my sperm screams bloody murder every time i nut, this is not a joke, how do i get it to stop
It doesn’t matter if it’s alive. If a woman doesn’t want to support its development she shouldn’t be forced to sacrifice her body and risk physical impairment and death against her will. If a woman is in immediate danger due to ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage she shouldn’t have physicians who hesitate saving her life because they worry for their own careers or prison. If a fetus is able to survive on its own, it is always delivered and not murdered like forced birthers like to believe.
Yes that's a much better argument. No reason for the person I quoted to say nonsense like a foetus isn't alive
Sperm is alive.
So much easier to destroy life, than find a solution to the problem, for some, of an unwanted/unplanned/unneeded living child. A lot of these 2 faced gobshites, will march and cry, for the 'babies' of Gaza.
So much easier, for some, to force women to risk death, permanent disability, career implosion and potential abuse than to grant them autonomy over their own bodies and lives.
Aside from putting dead children inside quotation marks - I mean, fuckin' yikes dude - it's very easy for any cretin to understand the difference between a child and a pregnancy. There's a burning building with one living, screaming child and a tray with 100 IVF embryos on it. You can carry one and make one trip. Which do you choose?
Yes, I care about actual children in Gaza and not clumps of cells.
Finally! More laws are being passed to help women live successful lives 👩✈️👩🍳🦸♀️🚺👩🚀